The Syndicate

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

Wait, what?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

Wait, what?

Dom wrote:this!!!

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

It's not yelling loudly.
It's being harassed by two players for two straight days. Constantly being "misunderstood" (like when Quinn "misread" my statments and lied about Mac's stance on me). Constantly being told I didn't post something I have.
Motel room-- why did you vote for me in the first place? That's a question you've yet to answer.


ALSO
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 92#p305992
Here's Quinn saying, two days ago, that I need an ISO. Later, he piles votes on me for literally no reason. He's a shill and a bad one at it.

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

Wait, what?

this!!!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:this!!!

Please answer his question.

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

Wait, what?

this!!!

I have to go - ^ this is weaksauce, he didnt think of it when he answered me.

Quin wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

It's not yelling loudly.
It's being harassed by two players for two straight days. Constantly being "misunderstood" (like when Quinn "misread" my statments and lied about Mac's stance on me). Constantly being told I didn't post something I have.
Motel room-- why did you vote for me in the first place? That's a question you've yet to answer.


ALSO
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 92#p305992
Here's Quinn saying, two days ago, that I need an ISO. Later, he piles votes on me for literally no reason. He's a shill and a bad one at it.

Tell me what the advantage is for me in lying that Mac scum-read you. You proved me wrong within 5 minutes. What did I get out of that?

I'm going through the question that you couldn't be bothered elaborating on Dom.

Sloonei wrote:This post is probably the biggest source of suspicion I have for Epi:

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Let's review some of Zebra's strongest stances taken in this game:

~ Ricochet is bad.

~ Elohcin is good.

~ MovingPictures07 is bad.

I have spent the whole game thinking she looked genuine in her incorrectness, and I was willing to forgive. I ask myself now though, especially in the wake of Mac dying, whether I was being too easy on her. Zebra by her very nature as a player is very assertive about her manner of conveying her reads whether they are real or fake. That assertiveness is easy to mistake for sincerity, which is her best skill as a player.

Now we have Epignosis going after Mac right before his death in a way that perfectly recalls the circumstances earlier in the game, to the point that coincidence appears less likely than intent. I think motel room was making a valid inference when he suggested this first, and it was my immediate reaction to the reveal of Mac's death. Now, consider the most likely impact of a MacDougall death -- Glorfindel gets wasted today. It's the absolute easiest means of night kill manipulation on the table, and I am not inclined to bite. I think Glorfindel is the carrot, and either Epignosis or Sloonei is dangling that carrot.

I could see this as a strategy that scum Epi would use. Given how tentative so many reads in this game feel, it probably wouldn't be too hard to tip things in any direction right now if the baddies want to do that, and if they're actively involved then that is what they want to do right now. Given this and my sudden town read on Glorf, I'm loosening up on the good vibes I got from Epi last night.

3J manufactures a reason to suspect me (as I don't believe he really does), and you "could see this as a strategy that scum Epi would use."

Super.

Tell me- when I am bad, what strategies are off the table?

I think he suspects you. He is currently voting for you and this looks like a genuine thought process. I can see it as something you'd do, yes. I'm not saying I'm convinced of anything. This is not a crusade. Just keeping an open mind. You've said yourself, somewhere, I think it was in Red vs. Blue that most of those numerous banners of yours have come from scum performances. You're a crafty baddie. The only strategies I'd take off the table for you are things that skirt or break the rules of the game. Take it as a compliment.

You think he genuinely thinks I'm bad? I don't. I know 3J. We go way back.

He voted me because I wasn't on here at all. Then he voted like fourteen other people. Then I logged on and went off to do other things, and I guarantee you he saw me online and voted for me again.

That is what I believe his thought process to be. He can state otherwise.

If you will, describe how you arrived at the conclusion that this was his "genuine thought process" (your words).

You are correct about me. I won't break the rules, but I also won't lie about real life. I don't consider either of those things strategies, but rather "cheating" and "being unfair," respectively.

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I probably won't end up reading through your posts, Sloonei.

I got my hopes up. Will you at least read this one and the links contained therein?

I read it.

I don't care that you ask questions. I didn't care for the timing of your question, as though I had a planned answer or something. A backup, as it were. You were setting me up.

It was timed that way because it was the first post of the day. What was I even setting you up for? I'm asking you to name suspects. How is that a setup? That's what this game is.

You gave me no opportunity to reevaluate. I timed my case against MacDougall so that no one could change a night action before the post. I think were high on coincidence and sprang to incriminate me.

His responses here are entirely dismissive to the point of seeming deliberately disengaging of my points. He just keeps asking me to explain my thought process without saying a word about what he thinks about those thought processes or why they're wrong.

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:this!!!

Please answer his question.

OK-- forgive me-- I'm thoroughly exhausted with this thread, but is this about me or motel room

Dom wrote:Sloonei who are you going to vote for?

if they die who are you going to vote for?

if they die who are you going to vote for?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:this!!!

Please answer his question.

OK-- forgive me-- I'm thoroughly exhausted with this thread, but is this about me or motel room

Both of you. Any dialogue between you will help me read you both.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Sloonei wrote:This post is probably the biggest source of suspicion I have for Epi:

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Let's review some of Zebra's strongest stances taken in this game:

~ Ricochet is bad.

~ Elohcin is good.

~ MovingPictures07 is bad.

I have spent the whole game thinking she looked genuine in her incorrectness, and I was willing to forgive. I ask myself now though, especially in the wake of Mac dying, whether I was being too easy on her. Zebra by her very nature as a player is very assertive about her manner of conveying her reads whether they are real or fake. That assertiveness is easy to mistake for sincerity, which is her best skill as a player.

Now we have Epignosis going after Mac right before his death in a way that perfectly recalls the circumstances earlier in the game, to the point that coincidence appears less likely than intent. I think motel room was making a valid inference when he suggested this first, and it was my immediate reaction to the reveal of Mac's death. Now, consider the most likely impact of a MacDougall death -- Glorfindel gets wasted today. It's the absolute easiest means of night kill manipulation on the table, and I am not inclined to bite. I think Glorfindel is the carrot, and either Epignosis or Sloonei is dangling that carrot.

I could see this as a strategy that scum Epi would use. Given how tentative so many reads in this game feel, it probably wouldn't be too hard to tip things in any direction right now if the baddies want to do that, and if they're actively involved then that is what they want to do right now. Given this and my sudden town read on Glorf, I'm loosening up on the good vibes I got from Epi last night.

3J manufactures a reason to suspect me (as I don't believe he really does), and you "could see this as a strategy that scum Epi would use."

Super.

Tell me- when I am bad, what strategies are off the table?

I think he suspects you. He is currently voting for you and this looks like a genuine thought process. I can see it as something you'd do, yes. I'm not saying I'm convinced of anything. This is not a crusade. Just keeping an open mind. You've said yourself, somewhere, I think it was in Red vs. Blue that most of those numerous banners of yours have come from scum performances. You're a crafty baddie. The only strategies I'd take off the table for you are things that skirt or break the rules of the game. Take it as a compliment.

You think he genuinely thinks I'm bad? I don't. I know 3J. We go way back.

He voted me because I wasn't on here at all. Then he voted like fourteen other people. Then I logged on and went off to do other things, and I guarantee you he saw me online and voted for me again.

That is what I believe his thought process to be. He can state otherwise.

If you will, describe how you arrived at the conclusion that this was his "genuine thought process" (your words).

You are correct about me. I won't break the rules, but I also won't lie about real life. I don't consider either of those things strategies, but rather "cheating" and "being unfair," respectively.

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I probably won't end up reading through your posts, Sloonei.

I got my hopes up. Will you at least read this one and the links contained therein?

I read it.

I don't care that you ask questions. I didn't care for the timing of your question, as though I had a planned answer or something. A backup, as it were. You were setting me up.

It was timed that way because it was the first post of the day. What was I even setting you up for? I'm asking you to name suspects. How is that a setup? That's what this game is.

You gave me no opportunity to reevaluate. I timed my case against MacDougall so that no one could change a night action before the post. I think were high on coincidence and sprang to incriminate me.

His responses here are entirely dismissive to the point of seeming deliberately disengaging of my points. He just keeps asking me to explain my thought process without saying a word about what he thinks about those thought processes or why they're wrong.

I had a somewhat similar thought related to his exploration of thought processes (yours and mine) -- the concept of "thought processes" as a meaningful Mafia hunting course seems to be language most often seen from people in the Sloonei/MovingPicture/JJJ type tree of styles. I'm not used to seeing Epignosis talk about that kind of thing.

Dom wrote:

Quin wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

It's not yelling loudly.
It's being harassed by two players for two straight days. Constantly being "misunderstood" (like when Quinn "misread" my statments and lied about Mac's stance on me). Constantly being told I didn't post something I have.
Motel room-- why did you vote for me in the first place? That's a question you've yet to answer.


ALSO
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 92#p305992
Here's Quinn saying, two days ago, that I need an ISO. Later, he piles votes on me for literally no reason. He's a shill and a bad one at it.

Tell me what the advantage is for me in lying that Mac scum-read you. You proved me wrong within 5 minutes. What did I get out of that?

I'm going through the question that you couldn't be bothered elaborating on Dom.

Quin have you seen me lynched before?

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:this!!!

Please answer his question.

OK-- forgive me-- I'm thoroughly exhausted with this thread, but is this about me or motel room

Both of you. Any dialogue between you will help me read you both.

Which question?

motel room wrote:[so what are you saying about my switch?

Scotty wrote:hey guys, /9446 ;94 my lack of knvvsmt i

Scotty wrote:hey guys, /9446 ;94 my lack of knvvsmt i

Quin wrote:<<SNIPPED BECAUSE WBESITE>>

Glorfindel is alive, so this question seems entirely pointless from the get-go. Dom is expecting information that Sloonei may not even have.

It just seems to recur the last two points throughout the rest of this pissfest.

Scotty wrote:

Scotty wrote:hey guys, /9446 ;94 my lack of knvvsmt i

Kill me

Scotty wrote:

Scotty wrote:hey guys, /9446 ;94 my lack of knvvsmt i

Kill me

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:this!!!

Please answer his question.

OK-- forgive me-- I'm thoroughly exhausted with this thread, but is this about me or motel room

Both of you. Any dialogue between you will help me read you both.

Which question?

When you said "what the hell" to his vote switch from you to Glorfindel, he asked you:

motel room wrote:[so what are you saying about my switch?

Quin wrote:

Dom wrote:

Quin wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:

Dom wrote:

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?

Literally what teh hell

Is this a question? I'm not sold on the yelling-loudly-is-town defence so what are you saying about my switch?

It's not yelling loudly.
It's being harassed by two players for two straight days. Constantly being "misunderstood" (like when Quinn "misread" my statments and lied about Mac's stance on me). Constantly being told I didn't post something I have.
Motel room-- why did you vote for me in the first place? That's a question you've yet to answer.


ALSO
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 92#p305992
Here's Quinn saying, two days ago, that I need an ISO. Later, he piles votes on me for literally no reason. He's a shill and a bad one at it.

Tell me what the advantage is for me in lying that Mac scum-read you. You proved me wrong within 5 minutes. What did I get out of that?

I'm going through the question that you couldn't be bothered elaborating on Dom.

Quin have you seen me lynched before?

I don't remember if I have.

Dom wrote:

Quin wrote:<<SNIPPED BECAUSE WBESITE>>

Glorfindel is alive, so this question seems entirely pointless from the get-go. Dom is expecting information that Sloonei may not even have.

It just seems to recur the last two points throughout the rest of this pissfest.

Then why the hell was Epi expected to have a name ready upon Mac's death?


You are bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Scotty wrote:hey guys, /9446 ;94 my lack of knvvsmt i

Kill me

Are you bad?

Scotty wrote:Yikes. Sorry indi. Back to the drawing board for me. I'm not sure this makes Sloonei look better, but it doesn't make him seem worse.

insertnamehere wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:at this point, I'm just sitting in the balcony, feeling salty, detached, impotent, and utterly indifferent to this game.

I'm like Statler & Waldorf, combined into one physical body.

#avengeindi #mpdidnothingwrong #boldplay

Who do you think is bad?

Glorfindel.

Honorable mentions to Dom and Lorab. Those are my three biggest suspicions, in that order.

Why Dom and LoRab? I'm not versed in either of them this game but I'm open to hearing possibilities.

LoRab choosing to vote you because you "neenered" her sticks out to me. It wasn't even clarified that she thought you bad, but because she was neener peeved.

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Scotty wrote:hey guys, /9446 ;94 my lack of knvvsmt i

Kill me

Are you bad?

i had to pay a ticket for neglecting to buy a parking pass in a national park today, so maybe.

In this game, no

Scotty wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Scotty wrote:hey guys, /9446 ;94 my lack of knvvsmt i

Kill me

anyway, sorry for my lack of involvement. I've had to rely on wifi here in Canada and it's not the nicest thing to rely on.

I need to make a vote, but unfortunately haven't been reading this phase.

I might vote for Dom or Glorf. Who wants it less?

Epignosis wrote:The first thing I took away from reading Wilgy is that I think Lorab is good.

Scotty wrote:I know Day 1 is gonna Day 1, but this singular post sticks out to me now:

Dom wrote:I do not suspect Elohcin.

Unprompted. I get people make mistakes but this here is a pretty standout declaration.

Dom's voting record: MP, MP, MP, indi, Missed vote. This tunneling can be easy to hide behind as a Baddie.

Somebody wanted MP dead. Even when MP routinely called him moderate town on his rainbow list.

DrWilgy wrote:I declare CFD on Scotty.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I note that Scotty is willing to drop an uninformed vote on either of the two tally leaders.

DrWilgy wrote:I declare CFD on Scotty.

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I note that Scotty is willing to drop an uninformed vote on either of the two tally leaders.

I note that I haven't yet dropped a vote on anyone and have asked in thread as to making a slightly more informed vote, Mr. Pretentious

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I note that Scotty is willing to drop an uninformed vote on either of the two tally leaders.

I note that I haven't yet dropped a vote on anyone and have asked in thread as to making a slightly more informed vote, Mr. Pretentious

Dom wrote:Scotty's last post on me implies that he has no reason to suspect me.

Sloonei wrote:Dom, this is a pretty recent post from Scotty about you:

Scotty wrote:I know Day 1 is gonna Day 1, but this singular post sticks out to me now:

Dom wrote:I do not suspect Elohcin.

Unprompted. I get people make mistakes but this here is a pretty standout declaration.

Dom's voting record: MP, MP, MP, indi, Missed vote. This tunneling can be easy to hide behind as a Baddie.

Somebody wanted MP dead. Even when MP routinely called him moderate town on his rainbow list.

Dom wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Dom, this is a pretty recent post from Scotty about you:

Scotty wrote:I know Day 1 is gonna Day 1, but this singular post sticks out to me now:

Dom wrote:I do not suspect Elohcin.

Unprompted. I get people make mistakes but this here is a pretty standout declaration.

Dom's voting record: MP, MP, MP, indi, Missed vote. This tunneling can be easy to hide behind as a Baddie.

Somebody wanted MP dead. Even when MP routinely called him moderate town on his rainbow list.

The post I quoted tells a different story. Any reason why you want to contradict everything I say? It's almost like Scotty doesn't care what's right or wrong.