The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:37 pm Then I'm down to lynch Wilgy next.

i second this because I believe DH, Epi and Myself to be town. so you guys can take the reins on this sloonei/scotty

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:47 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:46 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:32 pm Here’s a very likely thing to note:
Strexcorp does not kill on even nights.

Marmot most definitely used his one-shot negation of night actions on N4, because not only was there no kill, Cecil didn’t post.

So either there was a protect of the NK target and someone blocked Cecil, or Marmot used his power on a night they didn’t kill. There is no reason to do so on a night that they would have had a chance to kill.

So therefore, if there are only 2 teams (Evil Evens and Strexcorp) then Evil Evens DO kill on even nights

i'd like to point out it's also possible cecil just straight up didnt submit anything for night 4. i dont think the hosts would come on and say "cecil didnt send anything in tonight"

Did he?

i'll just publicly ask that he confirms what happened in his post for tonight's phase

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:57 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:07 pm Where the fuck am I?!?

0.o

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE!

Thanks for your single contribution to the day, good doctor.

See, this is the kind of stuff we’ve been getting from Wilgy most the game.. I say most because it started off with very direct dialogue and purpose. But it’s been even sillier and ramped up since SpaceDaisy alluded to bad Wilgy harboring a more straight-forward serious approach. Is this civ play?

Fuck it, it's Day 8, in a GOC game. If people are gonna do that kind of stuff I'd honestly prefer lynching them

Do it. I ain't got time for this shit.

I've said this already, but just for the sake of clarity:
My top town reads in Cerberus were Kyle, spacedaisy, and Scotty. Those three all happened to be come along here. I find it unlikely that I could be swayed to vote for any of them at this time.
Marmot was my primary suspect for a while. We've lynched him on two consecutive days and that suspicion has been validated. Sweet.
DrWilgy is, as always, a wild card. I pegged him as a light green town read on my imaginary rainbow, but as the POE field is narrowed down, he sticks out as a good candidate to be lynched.

Epi and DH (along with Quin) were my town reads when I peaked in here on Night 3. Nothing about today's events have swayed me change my mind on them. If sprityo is Cecil, and Cecil is civilian, that leaves us (or me, at least) with wilgy and nobody else as a suspect. I uh guess I'll be inclined to vote for him tomorrow.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:06 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:57 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:07 pm Where the fuck am I?!?

0.o

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE!

Thanks for your single contribution to the day, good doctor.

See, this is the kind of stuff we’ve been getting from Wilgy most the game.. I say most because it started off with very direct dialogue and purpose. But it’s been even sillier and ramped up since SpaceDaisy alluded to bad Wilgy harboring a more straight-forward serious approach. Is this civ play?

Fuck it, it's Day 8, in a GOC game. If people are gonna do that kind of stuff I'd honestly prefer lynching them

Do it. I ain't got time for this shit.

I'll lynch you after I lynch Speedchuck's teammate, Epignosis.

Godspeed you

For reference, the other tribe currently consists of:

Boomslang
colonialbob
Dom
Dragon D Luffy
insertnamehere
LoRab
nijuukyugou
Quin
sig
Speedchuck
S~V~S

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:18 pm This is speedchuck’s D1 rainbow. Posting for posterity.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:22 pm speedchuck
Long Con
sprityo
S~V~S
Quin
Epignosis
nutella
Dragon D Luffy
Dharmahelper
colonialbob
dom

Readlist

I would expect if Speedchuck had a teammate on this tribe (which isn’t definite), the teammate(s) would lie somewhere in the middle-low range. Not too high, not too low. Epi certainly fits that bill, but so does DDL and DH

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:14 pm I still don't believe speedchuck was bad in his first incarnation.

Well then, there is that possibility.

I wouldn't take Speedchuck's rainbow list at face value. He didn't see to understand how they work.

Post-Script:

Speedchuck was bad in his first incarnation.

Nice quiet Night. Cool.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] I’m sorry if you answered this before but why are you deadset that nutella didn’t start as mafia?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:42 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:40 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:39 pm DH’s case is circumstantial and has a whole lot of projecting, for sure. BUt it could be something nonetheless.

I also have a good feeling about Epi before nutella blew up the game.

I still would rather speed get lynched in any case atm so I can look at LC/speed interactions when I have more time

Circumstantial how?

Epi and Chuck both fucked around with their votes, voting counter to their stated suspicions in order to save Speedchuck, and Speedchuck is bad. Where is the guess work there?

speedchuck's first role could have been a civilian role. You don't see too many mafia protectors (I had one in Mileena, but I can't recall ever having another one).

Nevermind. You were talking about Speedchuck.

I don’t think it would be a stretch to assume in a big game like this that there would be mafia doctors. There’s alfeady a bevy of vote manipulation roles all over the place.

It would certainly make me feel better about INH’s first role being civ, as a Doctor-lite

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:07 pm Where the fuck am I?!?

0.o

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE!

Thanks for your single contribution to the day, good doctor.

See, this is the kind of stuff we’ve been getting from Wilgy most the game.. I say most because it started off with very direct dialogue and purpose. But it’s been even sillier and ramped up since SpaceDaisy alluded to bad Wilgy harboring a more straight-forward serious approach. Is this civ play?

No, good Wilgy plays jokey and shticky, but he actually has insight he puts out there if you are willing to sort out what he is saying. Civ WIlgy actually has a pretty good idea for baddies.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:21 pm I just spent 7 days desperately trying to push a lynch across without success. Then I come here and actively try not to lynch, but it happens anyway.

More importantly, heck yeah.

LOL, well done Sloonster! You called it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:16 pm To the best of your ability, newcomers:

What did nijuukyugou do during Day 1 / Night 1?

Pretty much nothing except a soft defense of Boomslang when he came under suspicion early. And her response to nutella being revealed as her proton/electron BTSC partner seemed odd to some of us. But if you were bad, and you were NOT on a team with your electron/proton BTSC partner, it would make sense you wouldn't ask who they were, because you wouldn't want to know. So it makes sense if nutella didn't ask. But did Blooper literally say nothing as Nutella said? Because I thought Blooper said they had barely said anything. Meaning, I was under the impression she said something at least... When I asked about this before none of my previous tribe mates responded. Does anyone remember if Blooper said she hadn't said anything?

Boomslang was an early suspicion for me for a couple reasons:

He jumped on discussion about everyone outing whether or not they sent in a haiku once we were told anyone who did was unlynchable Day 1 and pushed for everyone doing this.

He voted for sig because of the previously mentioned 70% comment.

In the first case it looked to me like a Baddie trying to look like they are putting work into the game, without actually being helpful. I mean, if you were bad you would just lie about. All we would have been doing was wasting time talking about it that could be spent talking about who to lynch.

In the case of the second I could see no way a stupid comment like that would make sig bad. Why would a baddie say, "I think I might have sent a haiku in" when they know that doing so would have made them unlynchable? It only made sense as a silly civ moment. Later sig revealed he said it on purpose to see how people responded to it. It's too easy a thing to lie about and thereby discourage people from voting for you to be a Baddie slip up imo. And it made me really suspect him for it because it seemed like the logical explanation, so taking such an illogical stance seemed strange to me coming from Boom.

However, he feel off my radar completely since then. I don't know what opinion I currently have of him. I can't recall anything he said or did since then and that was Day 1 and 2...

Yall remember that one time bad Wilgy put a whole case together against me that was like, the funniest shit and he said he put it together in the shower.

Even mafia will be hunting in this game (see Long Con) since there are more than one team, which throws a lot of metas into question

Either Sloonei is the civviest of the civs (I’ve held that position basically all game) or he’s been bamboozling us all. He deserves to win if he and Marmot are aligned, which the right side of my brain is twitching to me right now.

Could be time for a lobotomy

Top Five List of Things People Think Matter In Mafia But Actually They Dont

5. Rainbow Lists
4. Meta
3. Adverbs
2. Rainbow Lists Again
1. Rainbow Lists a Third Time.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:14 pm Top Five List of Things People Think Matter In Mafia But Actually They Dont

5. Rainbow Lists
4. Meta
3. Adverbs
2. Rainbow Lists Again
1. Rainbow Lists a Third Time.

Epi would like to quickly have a word with you

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:14 pm Either Sloonei is the civviest of the civs (I’ve held that position basically all game) or he’s been bamboozling us all. He deserves to win if he and Marmot are aligned, which the right side of my brain is twitching to me right now.

Could be time for a lobotomy

I could be an evil even.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:20 pm ISOs up.

Scotty, you aren't getting an iso link of my posts because it is literally redundant. So there

Not on mobile it's not.

I feel as though things look bleak for me tonight with jack going buh bye last night. It’s the first time mafia have shown a desire to totally eliminate someone :/

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:22 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:20 pm ISOs up.

Scotty, you aren't getting an iso link of my posts because it is literally redundant. So there

Not on mobile it's not.

I can't possibly be seen to encourage such an inefficient way of playing.

Me waiting for Day start

fml

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:22 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:20 pm ISOs up.

Scotty, you aren't getting an iso link of my posts because it is literally redundant. So there

Not on mobile it's not.

Thank you Sir Golden and yes, on mobile it’s a nightmare

Ay lads so one of the new guys killed Cecil

well there we have it

vote drwilgy aubergine etc.

Cecil survives ~8 or 9 days after I outted him in the thread with our original Pikachu tribe mates and the Night that the new guys get here and find out he's a gossiper role, he dies? Uh-huh

One of the Cerb people killed Cecil. Probably not Doc since he doesn't give a wet fart about the game it looks like

A role like Cecil's isn't a very powerful one though- not in the sense that it can protect civilians or block you or sic poison monkeys on you.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:39 pm A role like Cecil's isn't a very powerful one though- not in the sense that it can protect civilians or block you or sic poison monkeys on you.

OK.

Who from Cerberus do you think would nightkill an outted gossip role? Not counting Doc

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:40 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:39 pm A role like Cecil's isn't a very powerful one though- not in the sense that it can protect civilians or block you or sic poison monkeys on you.

OK.

Who from Cerberus do you think would nightkill an outted gossip role? Not counting Doc

The value in killing him is in the removal of a "confirmed" (I use that term loosely) civilian voice. Nobody was ever going to lynch sprityo, so it doesn't surprise me to see him killed eventually, but not early. That's all I mean.

I think anybody would kill sprityo. It's just good strategy at this stage.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:37 pm Cecil survives ~8 or 9 days after I outted him in the thread with our original Pikachu tribe mates and the Night that the new guys get here and find out he's a gossiper role, he dies? Uh-huh

One of the Cerb people killed Cecil. Probably not Doc since he doesn't give a wet fart about the game it looks like

I see no reason to dismiss wilgy on these grounds.

In vocaroo II he was bad and essentially made no posts in the thread, but was apparently active in BTSC the whole game. A public appearance of not caring does not mean wilgy doesn't care.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:44 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:37 pm Cecil survives ~8 or 9 days after I outted him in the thread with our original Pikachu tribe mates and the Night that the new guys get here and find out he's a gossiper role, he dies? Uh-huh

One of the Cerb people killed Cecil. Probably not Doc since he doesn't give a wet fart about the game it looks like

I see no reason to dismiss wilgy on these grounds.

In vocaroo II he was bad and essentially made no posts in the thread, but was apparently active in BTSC the whole game. A public appearance of not caring does not mean wilgy doesn't care.

This is true.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:43 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:40 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:39 pm A role like Cecil's isn't a very powerful one though- not in the sense that it can protect civilians or block you or sic poison monkeys on you.

OK.

Who from Cerberus do you think would nightkill an outted gossip role? Not counting Doc

The value in killing him is in the removal of a "confirmed" (I use that term loosely) civilian voice. Nobody was ever going to lynch sprityo, so it doesn't surprise me to see him killed eventually, but not early. That's all I mean.

I think anybody would kill sprityo. It's just good strategy at this stage.

Mkay. So...

Why do you think it took ~8 days to do the deed? Cerberus guys get here, and Sprityo gets popped. You're not willing to engage in a bit of kill theory here?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:44 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:37 pm Cecil survives ~8 or 9 days after I outted him in the thread with our original Pikachu tribe mates and the Night that the new guys get here and find out he's a gossiper role, he dies? Uh-huh

One of the Cerb people killed Cecil. Probably not Doc since he doesn't give a wet fart about the game it looks like

I see no reason to dismiss wilgy on these grounds.

In vocaroo II he was bad and essentially made no posts in the thread, but was apparently active in BTSC the whole game. A public appearance of not caring does not mean wilgy doesn't care.

OK But lets assume it wasn't Doc.

It took like 6 nights for anyone from this tribe to be nightkilled.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:46 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:44 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:37 pm Cecil survives ~8 or 9 days after I outted him in the thread with our original Pikachu tribe mates and the Night that the new guys get here and find out he's a gossiper role, he dies? Uh-huh

One of the Cerb people killed Cecil. Probably not Doc since he doesn't give a wet fart about the game it looks like

I see no reason to dismiss wilgy on these grounds.

In vocaroo II he was bad and essentially made no posts in the thread, but was apparently active in BTSC the whole game. A public appearance of not caring does not mean wilgy doesn't care.

OK But lets assume it wasn't Doc.

Then it was you or Scotty.

I assume it was Wilgy.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:46 pm It took like 6 nights for anyone from this tribe to be nightkilled.

And you lot turn up and we start dying straight off.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:46 pm It took like 6 nights for anyone from this tribe to be nightkilled.

And you lot turn up and we start dying straight off.

SVS died before we got here

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:45 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:43 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:40 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:39 pm A role like Cecil's isn't a very powerful one though- not in the sense that it can protect civilians or block you or sic poison monkeys on you.

OK.

Who from Cerberus do you think would nightkill an outted gossip role? Not counting Doc

The value in killing him is in the removal of a "confirmed" (I use that term loosely) civilian voice. Nobody was ever going to lynch sprityo, so it doesn't surprise me to see him killed eventually, but not early. That's all I mean.

I think anybody would kill sprityo. It's just good strategy at this stage.

Mkay. So...

Why do you think it took ~8 days to do the deed? Cerberus guys get here, and Sprityo gets popped. You're not willing to engage in a bit of kill theory here?

I just did. I'm sorry if you didn't like my conclusion.

"Kill theory" =/= "Agreeing with DH's theory"

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:51 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:46 pm It took like 6 nights for anyone from this tribe to be nightkilled.

And you lot turn up and we start dying straight off.

SVS died before we got here

SVS Wasn't a Cecil tho