The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:58 pm**

Coffee? Pathetic. Real men start their mornings with A&W (tm) Root Beer, fresh from the tap.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:59 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:55 pm Things? As in, you have given other players items?

No. Hypothetical other chances to influence the goings-on of things.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:59 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:55 pm Things? As in, you have given other players items?

No, there were other things we were given the option to do but Sloonei's gift is the only one we did.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:59 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:50 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:46 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:45 pm Sorry I did not refresh in time. But yes, you mentioned it in the thread. If you had not, how would I have known you had an apple? Unless we were scumbuds...
I have reason to believe the mafia team was aware of the apple before I used it.
Why and how?
Details of the message in which it was delivered to me.
This wouldn't surprise me. Our Things were often portrayed as being of a give-and-take nature -- there's some risk involved.
Yeah... I hope we didn't screw up.

Turnip Head would still be alive if you did nothing. Apple > Turnip

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:00 pm**

is anyone on the same wavelength as me rn in that tsp's claim sounds hella flawed

i'm thinking he might have a role where he could kill characters or certain characters instead of being a cop. what he's saying is way too convoluted and i don't understand how he couldn't have had anything from n1

what did you try to do n1 tsp? how did you come up with nothing?

i'm starting to get a mini epi in my head saying "what? what does x or why even mean?" and i'm starting to erase the filler words in my posts. oh no... oh no this game is changing me. i just added 2 periods in

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:00 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:58 pm Wagonomics is terrible.

Equity is terrible.

EV is terrible.

Sticking an exclamation mark into a two-word phrase to indicate a hypothetical e.g. scum!JJJ is terrible.

"____ is always mafia here" is terrible.

WIM is terrible.

Lingo is terrible.

I like some lingo. But most of these are pretty cringey yeah

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:01 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:58 pm Wagonomics is terrible.

Equity is terrible.

EV is terrible.

Sticking an exclamation mark into a two-word phrase to indicate a hypothetical e.g. scum!JJJ is terrible.

"____ is always mafia here" is terrible.

WIM is terrible.

Lingo is terrible.

Mafia is a terrible game, so I see no problem with this.
Due to wagonomics, Epignosis is always mafia here. We have higher EV from lynching them over any player with partner equity.
I agree with the exclamation point thing, that always has struck me as weirdly over-the-top.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:01 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:00 pm is anyone on the same wavelength as me rn in that tsp's claim sounds hella flawed

i'm thinking he might have a role where he could kill characters or certain characters instead of being a cop. what he's saying is way too convoluted and i don't understand how he couldn't have had anything from n1

what did you try to do n1 tsp? how did you come up with nothing?

i'm starting to get a mini epi in my head saying "what? what does x or why even mean?" and i'm starting to erase the filler words in my posts. oh no... oh no this game is changing me. i just added 2 periods in

I view it as at least worthy of doubt. I am trying to keep the ol' head on straight though. You suggested you'd make a case for the game being solved, so I look forward to that.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:01 pm**

i'm gonna design a mafia game where players need to communicate via pheromones.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:02 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:00 pm is anyone on the same wavelength as me rn in that tsp's claim sounds hella flawed

i'm thinking he might have a role where he could kill characters or certain characters instead of being a cop. what he's saying is way too convoluted and i don't understand how he couldn't have had anything from n1

what did you try to do n1 tsp? how did you come up with nothing?

i'm starting to get a mini epi in my head saying "what? what does x or why even mean?" and i'm starting to erase the filler words in my posts. oh no... oh no this game is changing me. i just added 2 periods in

Yeah, or it could be a role cop which would make sense as a mafia role.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:02 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:58 pm Coffee? Pathetic. Real men start their mornings with A&W (tm) Root Beer, fresh from the tap.

root beer is actually the worst soda ever

a close second is dr pepper

beer tastes better than root beer, and beer isn't supposed to even taste good

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:02 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:01 pm i'm gonna design a mafia game where players need to communicate via pheromones.

internet forums would be great for that

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:03 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:01 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:58 pm Wagonomics is terrible.

Equity is terrible.

EV is terrible.

Sticking an exclamation mark into a two-word phrase to indicate a hypothetical e.g. scum!JJJ is terrible.

"____ is always mafia here" is terrible.

WIM is terrible.

Lingo is terrible.
Mafia is a terrible game, so I see no problem with this.
Due to wagonomics, Epignosis is always mafia here. We have higher EV from lynching them over any player with partner equity.
I agree with the exclamation point thing, that always has struck me as weirdly over-the-top.

It's from fanfic culture I'm pretty sure, so yeah, over-the-top is accurate.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:03 pm**

Soda is worse than the Book of Mafia.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:03 pm**

And tea is better than coffee.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:05 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:01 pm i'm gonna design a mafia game where players need to communicate via pheromones.

cumming soon

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:03 pm Soda is worse than the Book of Mafia.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:03 pm And tea is better than coffee.

these posts viscerally disgust me

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 pm**

We have about 24 hours, just to ensure we're mindful of the clock.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:01 pm i'm gonna design a mafia game where players need to communicate via pheromones.
cumming soon

Wtf this is from a year ago and I didn't know it existed. Foul. There are children on this website.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:08 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:01 pm i'm gonna design a mafia game where players need to communicate via pheromones.
cumming soon
Wtf this is from a year ago and I didn't know it existed. Foul. There are children on this website.

How do you think they got here?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:08 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:03 pm Soda is worse than the Book of Mafia.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:03 pm And tea is better than coffee.
these posts viscerally disgust me

I direct you to your own signature.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:09 pm**

And... socky submission.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:09 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 pm We have about 24 hours, just to ensure we're mindful of the clock.

fine i'll get started on this case

i can actually be here for eod this time btw 8) unless it's like... earlier than 7PM EDT

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:09 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 pm We have about 24 hours, just to ensure we're mindful of the clock.
fine i'll get started on this case

i can actually be here for eod this time btw 8) unless it's like... earlier than 7PM EDT

It's at 3:30 EDT

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:11 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:09 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 pm We have about 24 hours, just to ensure we're mindful of the clock.
fine i'll get started on this case

i can actually be here for eod this time btw 8) unless it's like... earlier than 7PM EDT
It's at 3:30 EDT

rip yeah i can't be here for eod... again.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:21 pm**

Tony & Turnip

*note that I'm not searching for the abbreviation "TH" because that produces something like 300 results per page, so it's possible i'm missing things.

Spoiler: show

Borderline. That's just "null" with extra letters.

Spoiler: show

A lil headbutt

Spoiler: show

"Oh whoops, I forgot to apply pressure, better go back and fix that."

Spoiler: show

Stimulating back-and-forth.

Spoiler: show

Edge of my seat.

Spoiler: show

This recalls to mind that Tony still has funnygurl in his POE for some reason.

That wasn't a lot. Their little headbutt yesterday went nowhere.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:22 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:11 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:09 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 pm We have about 24 hours, just to ensure we're mindful of the clock.
fine i'll get started on this case

i can actually be here for eod this time btw 8) unless it's like... earlier than 7PM EDT
It's at 3:30 EDT
rip yeah i can't be here for eod... again.

epi's the lynch today anyway. We're just using all the time we can to figure out the next move.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:23 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:08 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:01 pm i'm gonna design a mafia game where players need to communicate via pheromones.
cumming soon
Wtf this is from a year ago and I didn't know it existed. Foul. There are children on this website. :disappoint:
How do you think they got here?

I spit out my root beer.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:32 pm**

I've already looked a little bit at Turnip Head, but now I'm gonna focus specifically on Tony while trying to argue that they're partners.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:40 am I think we lost our momentum after the weird end to the lynch and then 24 hours of radio silence.

Something I wanted to mention was TonyStarkPrime, none of us have discussed him. He was around at the end of the lynch but most of his contributions were about the hammer. Not much actual gamesolving from TSP yet which is quite different from what I remember in GoC where he was flinging out reads with a high degree of proficiency. He was never the loudest voice in the room in that game, but he did enough for other towns to know he was there and doing his best.

After zero mentions of Tony on page 1 of Turnip's ISO, this post appears about halfway down page 2. Tony's not in danger and this is out of the blue, so it could be an abrupt turn by Partner A who realizes he needs to start putting some distance between themself and Partner B. Especially if TH feels like he's in danger of getting lynched this day.

Spoiler: show

A vote and some encouragement for a vegetable coalition.

Spoiler: show

An absolute thrill ride again. This... continues to go absolutely nowhere. Tony gives a limp response that Turnip doesn't respond to meaningfully. It is not difficult to read this as fake suspicion. They exchange votes and slap each other playfully, but neither gives any serious weight to the exchange. It can easily be staged in anticipation of Turnip's postmortem.

Verdict: Not incompatible.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:38 pm**

oh great now i'm just confused

i just noticed speed had his vote on turnip for both eods, which for this community shouldn't mean much i guess, but it's throwing me for a loop.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:43 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:38 pm oh great now i'm just confused

i just noticed speed had his vote on turnip for both eods, which for this community shouldn't mean much i guess, but it's throwing me for a loop.

Day 1 is especially meaningless there. No one else was voting for Turnip. Day 2 holds more sway, but... eh. It's not enough to toss speed out of the POE.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:43 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:38 pm oh great now i'm just confused

i just noticed speed had his vote on turnip for both eods, which for this community shouldn't mean much i guess, but it's throwing me for a loop.

Valid observation, and for some reason this post just confirmed you town to me. You were already close, but my soul attached to this.

The EOD1 vote is nigh-meaningless given that speed's the only one there. Perhaps it's noteworthy that he was right twice in a row despite being the game's least active player.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:46 pm**

this confuses me the most. if we assume a world where th and sc are w/w, then by d2 eod we already know that speed would bus a lot

yet despite suspecting lc d1 he doesn't vote there, when his vote would have a big impact

but if he's town this is him having a really good th read, which could happen. and if i were playing on any other forum i'd peg speed as town already but i can't and i don't even know why i'm confused

so far i iso'd lc wrt speed and only got some bantering as evidence that they're not on a team, but that's not nearly enough.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:48 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:02 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:58 pm Coffee? Pathetic. Real men start their mornings with A&W (tm) Root Beer, fresh from the tap.
root beer is actually the worst soda ever

a close second is dr pepper

beer tastes better than root beer, and beer isn't supposed to even taste good

definitely scum

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:49 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:48 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:02 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:58 pm Coffee? Pathetic. Real men start their mornings with A&W (tm) Root Beer, fresh from the tap.
root beer is actually the worst soda ever

a close second is dr pepper

beer tastes better than root beer, and beer isn't supposed to even taste good
definitely scum

Now I see you are lolcatting as well.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:49 pm**

Sloonei
Funnygurl555

ts account

TonyStarkPrime
Long Con

speedchuck

Epignosis

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:51 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:00 pm is anyone on the same wavelength as me rn in that tsp's claim sounds hella flawed

i'm thinking he might have a role where he could kill characters or certain characters instead of being a cop. what he's saying is way too convoluted and i don't understand how he couldn't have had anything from n1

what did you try to do n1 tsp? how did you come up with nothing?

i'm starting to get a mini epi in my head saying "what? what does x or why even mean?" and i'm starting to erase the filler words in my posts. oh no... oh no this game is changing me. i just added 2 periods in

okay yeah. I can kill a person. congrats that's the secret.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:51 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:52 pm My day 1 hunch is better than a dead wagon. [VOTE: Turnip Head] aubergine

My complaints about their empty posts are still valid, if less sure than before. And I haven't had time to evaluate the case on Radish. Work during a pandemic is awful.

speedchuck didn't talk about Turnip Head at all on Day 2 until this post.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:52 pm**

I have a name and I can kill that name at any odd night. I don't need to know who they are. I want claims from TS and Sloonei so I can pull the trigger if they don't claim the character I have

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:52 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:49 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:48 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:02 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:58 pm Coffee? Pathetic. Real men start their mornings with A&W (tm) Root Beer, fresh from the tap.
root beer is actually the worst soda ever

a close second is dr pepper

beer tastes better than root beer, and beer isn't supposed to even taste good
definitely scum
Now I see you are lolcatting as well.

I express a known affinity for Dr Pepper

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:53 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:49 pm Sloonei
Funnygurl555

ts account

Long Con

speedchuck

TonyStarkPrime

Epignosis

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:54 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:52 pm I have a name and I can kill that name at any odd night. I don't need to know who they are. I want claims from TS and Sloonei so I can pull the trigger if they don't claim the character I have

Does this mean you would consider pulling the trigger on me?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:55 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:58 pm Wagonomics is terrible.

Equity is terrible.

EV is terrible.

Sticking an exclamation mark into a two-word phrase to indicate a hypothetical e.g. scum!JJJ is terrible.

"____ is always mafia here" is terrible.

WIM is terrible.

Lingo is terrible.

Didn't know what the scum!bob meant.
I'm maintaining the top three -- I think they're pretty easily accessible.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:55 pm**

Handling a role with that as dishonestly as this is just about awful.

"No reason just wondering about characters"

"Okay it's a cop ability"

That's not a civilian kill.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:56 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:54 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:52 pm I have a name and I can kill that name at any odd night. I don't need to know who they are. I want claims from TS and Sloonei so I can pull the trigger if they don't claim the character I have
Does this mean you would consider pulling the trigger on me?

if you claim bob and I can shoot bob I will not shoot bob
If you do not claim bob
it's a bit tighter

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:56 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:55 pm Handling a role with that as dishonestly as this is just about awful.

"No reason just wondering about characters"

"Okay it's a cop ability"

That's not a civilian kill.

It is a cop ability.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:56 pm**

If your dead your role is known.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:57 pm**

you're

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:57 pm**

What is your character?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:59 pm**

Lucy I said that

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