The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:47 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:43 pm I am mindful of the fact that if there is even 1 mafia between Jay, Sloonei and Alison that once the two of the three that aren't that mafia and I die that person is probably just going to win, and I am very conflicted as to why the three of them are choosing to walk that path, particularly Alison, given Jay and Sloonei both acted in defense of Nutella in the most literal way and Jay in particular was present during Nutella wifom hours mopping up anti spew cred.

JJJ doesn’t hard defend his scum bud right off the bat.
Like the way he handled Nut SoD1 felt never W/W.
I was actually going to clear Nut if JJJ flipped Red because I thought JJJ was the scum within them because JJJ felt like they were trying to pocket Nut. JJJ for some reason had a very strong TR on Nut.

JJJ is a power player. He absolutely would defend his teammate because, much like me, he is rarely if ever held to account for anything he does because of his clout and when he does he can just post himself clear as either alignment.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:04 pm @Sonny thoughts on being in nutella’s town core?

Kito wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:23 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:19 pm

Kito wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:19 pm I'm willing to vote bunny but I wanna hear act's opinion about it first. It's important I swear

Absolutely. I would love for those three or four to talk about one another at length.

By the way I didn't vote for anybody D1. How come I'm not in your off wagon voters POE?

Somebody else didn't vote but I can't find who it was, the vote count in the OP is making my eyes bleed

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 1:26 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 1:25 am Might as well claim it before I go to bed

ME TARGETING HAWK IS THE REASON THERE WAS NO NIGHT KILL LAST NIGHT!

Alright good night everybody!

[unvote]Gavial[/vote]

Explain before I deathtunnel you for your ridiculous push on me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:29 pm Does nutella chainsaw me if she’s bad and about to get chopped?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 1:30 am Actually, let's just go back to [VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:04 pm I don’t mean to drive down this tunnel...but I really think Dana is scum, y’all. I do not like the question about Nutella’s flip (feels like a forced derp), and I do not like this reiteration of the reads list. I think I’m going to trust my D1 initial instinct right now because D2 hasn’t changed my mind yet. Her reads are trying too hard. She isn’t really scum hunting, I really believe she is spending more time on her appearance than finding scum. Call me crazy, but like...my vote is going back there haha.

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:53 am [VOTE: Ower] aubergine

forgot to change my poll vote but I wanna go back here anyway

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:35 am I’m still paranoid that he’s wolf but I’m gonna say Guillo town at least for now.

bad bunny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:42 am me when i get yeeted this game

Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:47 am okay lmao bunny just doesn't care about this game at all they still always village but I'm not gonna bother defending that read as much kek.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 1:02 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 1:01 am That does help, thank you Dana. It gives a sense of the competition in that moment for the nutella wagon, which was at least enough to matter. 5-3. For Sonny's sake that's a decent moment, particularly given that he didn't move the vote to my knowledge.

mmmm but he lives in Australia and was probably asleep for the last 6-7 hours of the day at minimum

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:51 pm if there is a deepwolf based on nut's game start it's probably tangy

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:42 am I thought we established it wasn't a total red check? Several times??

lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:42 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:51 pm if there is a deepwolf based on nut's game start it's probably tangy

Agree with this.

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:44 am

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:42 am I thought we established it wasn't a total red check? Several times??

It’s closer then whatever the fuck you got on Owner.
And these votes for this CW on Owner shows at least 1 of Hawk’s buddies is on the wagon.

Explain why there was no kill last night?
If you can’t, then vote Hawk.
Because I made sure Hawk couldn’t perform any factional killing.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:01 pm Conclusion

While there isn't a ton to discuss here, I do think these two can be teammates. This isn't an interaction that sets off screaming sirens, but nor is it one that inspires any confidence in me. That off-wagon Guilltone vote stands out to me too. Belzy is a suspect.

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:47 am

lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:42 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:51 pm if there is a deepwolf based on nut's game start it's probably tangy

Agree with this.

Same.
I know it’s kinda a dumb theory but I’m also thinking maybe Sloon.
But that’s mainly paranoia.

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:39 am

Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:47 am okay lmao bunny just doesn't care about this game at all they still always village but I'm not gonna bother defending that read as much kek.

@Allcrab
Wanna vote Hawk bud?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:10 pm I think Nutella was actively trying to tie Jay to herself when she was engaging me. Which makes me think she had been in anti spew since the middle of day 1.

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:44 am

Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:42 am I thought we established it wasn't a total red check? Several times??

It’s closer then whatever the fuck you got on Owner.
And these votes for this CW on Owner shows at least 1 of Hawk’s buddies is on the wagon.

Explain why there was no kill last night?
If you can’t, then vote Hawk.
Because I made sure Hawk couldn’t perform any factional killing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:12 pm this game is over lol

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:18 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:03 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:57 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:52 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:38 pm

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:24 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:27 pm Okay, I lied, I kept reading. People from MafC still seem to keep saying "oh, that is just Actv". As of Page 18, the only posts by Actv that look like town!Actv are with regards to Dana. Her interactions with everyone else do NOT look like town!Actv. Actv knows her meta, and I think she came in deliberatly trying to fake her paranoia/weird questions thing with Dana, but hasn't kept up with it with anyone else. I don't know anything that has happened after Page 18, but a lot of MafC players are saying "that's just act" early on, and I disagree.

Do you have a more concrete reason for scum reading me (to then vote me) other than meta? I don’t buy this as a real read considering you hardly know my meta lol.

Please quote where I’ve been paranoid with Dana.

What are my weird questions? Can you quote those as well?

What specifically am I doing that you believe is scum motivated?

Our first game together, you came at me with paranoia and weird questions, and I just responded with "I like you" or something like that, because you were obv town to me. I haven't always successfully read you since, but I feel I have at least as good a grasp on your meta as the average grasp of the people who have said "oh, this is just typical Actv". Also, unless you're playing on sites other than MafC (quite possible, but somehow I'd guess you aren't), I've probably been in all, or maybe all but one of your games since you've been back from your long hiatus, so aside from pre-hiatus friends, I know your meta as good as anyone.

Dana came in with an in-flavor fluff post that you made a big stirr about early on. That looked a little like town!Actv, but imo it rang hollow (meta-replication rather than actual Actv paranoia/suspicion). I'm not going to go quote stuff right now because I still have something like 25 pages to read, which takes precedence right meow.

Not sure, I'm not fully caught up. The fact that you seem to still be pushing Dana seems pretty bad since she looks pretty towny in the first 24 pages, but maybe Dana goes way downhill in the second half of D1? Who knows? (everyone except me:P) Either way, my scumread on you isn't based on seeing an agenda, my scumread on you is based on the fact that you don't look like town!Actv, and that your interactions with Nutella look w/w. You have ZERO of your patent Actv paranoia with regard to her, and while I was reading at the beginning (like pages 3-10 or something), her early push on you just screamed w/w (I mean, I had TMI on Nutella so it was probably easier for me to see than others who read it D1), and it was like a bad movie where you can guess the ending when she backed off of you for bad reasons. It reeks of distancing.

Okay, but I asked you where I was paranoid with Dana. You said I was, I disagree, so I’d like to know where you see that paranoia.

I don’t think I’ve made a “big stir” about anything. I questioned Dana on an early entrance post, people questioned me, I answered the questions. Can you explain how it was a “big stir?”

What is the logic on scum continuing to push a generally town read player? You bring it up as being scummy, but I’m not sure how.

You can go read the first 10 pages if you want to see what I'm talking about. I don't have time to fight about it since I am way behind. Fight me later, k?

I know my posts lol, and I disagree with what you’re saying. Your read on me doesn’t feel real, and I’m asking you to defend it. So far, you haven’t been able to.

Nah, you're not asking me to defend myself, you're asking for something to defend against. Good try though.

MafC folk who have said Actv is just being Actv, go find my first post (it is easy to find since my ISO is so short [to find my ISO click the "posts in topic: #" number thingy if you haven't figure this out yet]), and then read the posts by Actv right beforehand. Tell me that is paranoid town!Actv interacting with people she doesn't really know.