The Syndicate

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:14 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:10 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:09 am Per what hk and Urist have said, figuring out if dunya is a wolf or town will hopefully also shed some light on Jack and/or TSP.

explain wrt TSP specifically?

hollowkatt posted a thunk that I liked that said something like "do town TSP and town Jack push town dunya in this gamestate", and I think that is a definite no, so if dunia is town I think it means at least one of them is a wolf.


TSP and Jack are both excellent players (as either alignment) and have plenty of history with dunia, so both of them being town and wrong on this would be very hard to believe.


You could probably add Syn and myself to the list with Jack and TSP, but I don't think Syn nor I are nearly as capable as pushing town!dunya if we're wolves.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:25 am

which is why I'm landing on resolve dunya today and deal with that fallout tomorrow.
If dunya = wolf then by extension scotty and myself look poorly. I think syn might as well.
LP probably looks a touch better but I'm not discounting w/w wagons at all here.

TSP/Jack look really good off of that. Urist less good.

You and Raskol are probably the same tbh. Dya looks marginally better I think.
Wigley probs spewed town in that instance though someone still probably murks him at night anyways just to be sure.

marmot also probably looks about the same.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:55 pm LP is flailing here if she thinks I’m pussyfooting around, AND that I’m scumbuddies with TSP. Worst teammate ever.
You pair are literally my main scumreads since SoD

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:03 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:14 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:10 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:09 am Per what hk and Urist have said, figuring out if dunya is a wolf or town will hopefully also shed some light on Jack and/or TSP.

explain wrt TSP specifically?

hollowkatt posted a thunk that I liked that said something like "do town TSP and town Jack push town dunya in this gamestate", and I think that is a definite no, so if dunia is town I think it means at least one of them is a wolf.


TSP and Jack are both excellent players (as either alignment) and have plenty of history with dunia, so both of them being town and wrong on this would be very hard to believe.


You could probably add Syn and myself to the list with Jack and TSP, but I don't think Syn nor I are nearly as capable as pushing town!dunya if we're wolves.

why i gotta be included in the self slandering

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:58 pm @dunya What did u do N1?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:56 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:47 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:42 pm I targeted dunya last night with druid level 2

hot take

this is a reason to kill dunya

hotter take: this is why I've been so reluctant to chop her today. I want to know what was done.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:06 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:25 am

which is why I'm landing on resolve dunya today and deal with that fallout tomorrow.
If dunya = wolf then by extension scotty and myself look poorly. I think syn might as well.
LP probably looks a touch better but I'm not discounting w/w wagons at all here.

TSP/Jack look really good off of that. Urist less good.

You and Raskol are probably the same tbh. Dya looks marginally better I think.
Wigley probs spewed town in that instance though someone still probably murks him at night anyways just to be sure.

marmot also probably looks about the same.

explain the bold

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:55 pm LP is flailing here if she thinks I’m pussyfooting around, AND that I’m scumbuddies with TSP. Worst teammate ever.
You pair are literally my main scumreads since SoD

Flailing is not how I would describe it.
Frankly I'm having a lot more fun right now. It's quite thrilling of a play style.
I think I succeeded in what I set out to do this day stirring up enough controversy to force scum into more uncomfortable positions.

Like Petit is probably Mafia based on their progression towards their vote on me (or lack there of at times)
TSP has not handled the pressure I put on him very well and I think he's had fairly scummy responses to it.
I think the last solve is in NAA, Sig, Dya, and Wilgy.
Maybe Scooty or jack, but both have looked better in the last few pages.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:17 pm Should I have been alerted with some damage note if hk targeted me? Cos if so, he's lying.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:18 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:06 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:25 am

which is why I'm landing on resolve dunya today and deal with that fallout tomorrow.
If dunya = wolf then by extension scotty and myself look poorly. I think syn might as well.
LP probably looks a touch better but I'm not discounting w/w wagons at all here.

TSP/Jack look really good off of that. Urist less good.

You and Raskol are probably the same tbh. Dya looks marginally better I think.
Wigley probs spewed town in that instance though someone still probably murks him at night anyways just to be sure.

marmot also probably looks about the same.

explain the bold

I have the two of you tangentially linked together in my notes. My notes are in my brain btw not written down.
anyways, I don't think it's enough of a link for me to say "dunya flipped wolf lets get Syn" but definitely linked enough that dunya flipping wolf is going to make me ask myself "was syn wrong to defend or was syn defending a partner". GTH I think dunya wolf pockets town syn before syn and dunya as a pack conspire to "do bad things to town".
Mostly it's getting all my thoughts into the thread before eod so that if I do die ppl know what I was thinking and if I don't die ppl have things to engage me with

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:24 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:18 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:06 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:25 am

which is why I'm landing on resolve dunya today and deal with that fallout tomorrow.
If dunya = wolf then by extension scotty and myself look poorly. I think syn might as well.
LP probably looks a touch better but I'm not discounting w/w wagons at all here.

TSP/Jack look really good off of that. Urist less good.

You and Raskol are probably the same tbh. Dya looks marginally better I think.
Wigley probs spewed town in that instance though someone still probably murks him at night anyways just to be sure.

marmot also probably looks about the same.

explain the bold

I have the two of you tangentially linked together in my notes. My notes are in my brain btw not written down.
anyways, I don't think it's enough of a link for me to say "dunya flipped wolf lets get Syn" but definitely linked enough that dunya flipping wolf is going to make me ask myself "was syn wrong to defend or was syn defending a partner". GTH I think dunya wolf pockets town syn before syn and dunya as a pack conspire to "do bad things to town".
Mostly it's getting all my thoughts into the thread before eod so that if I do die ppl know what I was thinking and if I don't die ppl have things to engage me with

i brought dunia to 7 votes and begged someone to hammer, wdym

i spent an entire page this morning painting a world where dunia is a wolf

you ignored it tho because you were included in that world

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:21 pm HK reluctant to yeet me

HK voting me

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:26 pm why did all the people I specifically built a world around veer out of their way to be as scummy as possible afterward

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:29 pm[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:31 pm I mean it's a wagon thay isn't me or LP and I think tsp is wolfy in a vacuum.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:33 pm I hope you go over today, tsp. I really do.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:31 pm it’s very towny

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:30 pm hello again

I'm gonna have to read TSP's ISO aren't I

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:31 am is it possible they are w/w? it feels unlikely to me. Dunia has refused to engage or push toward LP and has tried to get the vote off of her today with an attempted Wilgy push, but with LP just rolling over, would w!dunia expend so much energy trying to save a w!lp that has given up?

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:32 am dunia also did this with scotty on d1 with her creature push.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:32 am however, it is also worth noting that dunia herself was a competing wagon around these times, so was she trying to get the vote off of her or off of a teammate?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:19 pm It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.

A vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:39 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:31 pm Alright time for mass analysis.

Easy stuff out of the way.
Scotty and TSP are so obvious mafia it's not even funny. But I have a strange feeling they will not be lynched until day 4 minimum.
Marmot and HK are probably the only two people putting in an effort into this game that feel genuine and are pretty obvi Town.
Duyna is probably Town do to multiple odd wagonomics pointing towards Mafia!Duyna as an unlikely scenario.
Syn always shares an alignment with Duyna, so probably Town.

Difficult things.
Wilgy and NAA are impossible to read as they are doing a lot of their normal NAI stuff.
Sig still hasn't posted, so yeah...
Dya feels like they are in their scum meta atm. Pretty similar progressions to reads and approach to wagons as in GoC.
petit's votes and reads are really odd. I cannot tell their alignment easily as I haven't played with them. Could go either way with a scumlean.
Jack I've been trying to get a better read on today but I'm still equally as lost as i was early today when it came to reading him. I'm thinking Town, but their reasoning for reads isn't very good.
Urist feels Town since D1 and my confidence in this read has been steadily growing all of D2.
Dolby also feels a bit more like Town. They at least feel somewhat genuine, though I would be lying if I said I really was able to read their posts. They frankly go in one ear and out the other.

It’s posts like these that make me keep wanting you gone before anyone else.

[VOTE: LP] aubergine

I can’t shake this feeling

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:54 am alright it's 3 AM bye

gonna wake up to 30 notifications and cry in the club

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:19 pm It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.

A vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:40 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do

You tell me. You and jack and even dunya have been part of
The Resistance to putting LP over.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:36 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:19 pm It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.

A vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.

So if I flip town Scotty is auto town ? Why?

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:34 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:30 pm hello again

I'm gonna have to read TSP's ISO aren't I

hi dolby you quoted a post of mine where I established a dichotomy between lp and dunia and said they were w/w

but this reply ignored my previous posts where i argued they would not be w/w

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:31 am is it possible they are w/w? it feels unlikely to me. Dunia has refused to engage or push toward LP and has tried to get the vote off of her today with an attempted Wilgy push, but with LP just rolling over, would w!dunia expend so much energy trying to save a w!lp that has given up?

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:32 am dunia also did this with scotty on d1 with her creature push.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:32 am however, it is also worth noting that dunia herself was a competing wagon around these times, so was she trying to get the vote off of her or off of a teammate?

what are your thoughts

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:36 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:19 pm It is interesting how there is so much chatter around Scotty, but the man has 0 votes.

A vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.

So if I flip town Scotty is auto town ? Why?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:43 pm Jack sorry I think he’s town