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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:36 pm
by jess
rondo and nut had the towniest rxns to the epi flip. duelist also.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:42 pm
by GoSpursGo
If I hear one more person tell me how towny Rondo is I'm going to toss my phone.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 6:00 pm
by gims
:x

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 6:00 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:42 pm If I hear one more person tell me how towny Rondo is I'm going to toss my phone.
Hehehe

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY TWO]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:29 pm
by Scotty
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:31 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:21 pm Because this:
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amsup
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 am [VOTE: Epi] aubergine
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amgood night
He did both Day 3 and Day 4. That’s dripping with purpose
OK, but why is voting and dipping inherently scummy in your eyes from Wilgy?

Like, your POE is just the two least active alive players. Do you generally find Wilgy's activity to AI? Do you think all of the wolves are just rolling over and playing possum and hoping the town eats itself alive?
….because doing so to someone that is now confirmed town is scummy behavior.

And you’re making it sound like I’m going for these two players because they’re the least active. Not so- I’m finding them wolfy because their pushes are lackluster on the confirmed wolves. They just also happen to be the lowest posters :shrug:

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:40 pm
by Dubz
jess wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:36 pm
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:48 pm I thought dubz' defense on nutella last gameday, against DM, was pretty scummy

not that it was incorrect. its probably correct. but it felt like TMI. it felt like dubz has town!nutella as a given. only townies would get paranoid about her/poking her at that stage in the game. for wolves, its easy to just shrug that slot as town and focus on whatever is incorrect in POE.
yea i also was lightly pinged by this post at the time:
Dubz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 10:51 pm Why, as I'm reading backwards, are DM and gims acting like nutella isn't one of the clearest people here lmao

As far as I can tell the game is not off the rails enough for us to be poking at people who should be in the towncore, unless I missed something major

SKREEEE— ahem. Legally distinct rawr.
because i agree that nutella is proly town but the language was decisive in a way that maybe clashes awkwardly relative to dubz lack of engagement, like a read that can stem from a position of TMI
You and @gims are both missing the context that the last couple hours of the day where the nicole wagon built up and nicole's interactions are the one part of this game that I have had time to look at in depth. And it wasn't like the argument was that nutella acted weird about other flipped wolves since then or anything, the arguments being made were discrediting her position on nicole specifically.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY TWO]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:42 pm
by GoSpursGo
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:29 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:31 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:21 pm Because this:
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amsup
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 am [VOTE: Epi] aubergine
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amgood night
He did both Day 3 and Day 4. That’s dripping with purpose
OK, but why is voting and dipping inherently scummy in your eyes from Wilgy?

Like, your POE is just the two least active alive players. Do you generally find Wilgy's activity to AI? Do you think all of the wolves are just rolling over and playing possum and hoping the town eats itself alive?
….because doing so to someone that is now confirmed town is scummy behavior.

And you’re making it sound like I’m going for these two players because they’re the least active. Not so- I’m finding them wolfy because their pushes are lackluster on the confirmed wolves. They just also happen to be the lowest posters :shrug:
I mean a bunch of players pushed Michelle on day 1. Was that scummy behavior as well?

I don't find you saying that Wilgy's push on the confirmed wolves to be consistent with what you said about their votes on Nicole and Trek in the post I originally quoted. Can you clarify what made those votes lackluster?

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:45 pm
by Dubz
Also kind of silly to say that that a wolf in my position could just sit back and enjoy the status quo in a game where they've only gotten one misyeet. Shrugging off paranoia is not the vibe in that scenario unless you're a top town read, which I am not. Especially if you think my partner was on the board!

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:50 pm
by GoSpursGo
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:45 pm Also kind of silly to say that that a wolf in my position could just sit back and enjoy the status quo in a game where they've only gotten one misyeet. Shrugging off paranoia is not the vibe in that scenario unless you're a top town read, which I am not. Especially if you think my partner was on the board!
hey dubz--you played with Rondo for longer than I did in The Expanse. Do they seem towny to you?

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:55 pm
by Dubz
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:50 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:45 pm Also kind of silly to say that that a wolf in my position could just sit back and enjoy the status quo in a game where they've only gotten one misyeet. Shrugging off paranoia is not the vibe in that scenario unless you're a top town read, which I am not. Especially if you think my partner was on the board!
hey dubz--you played with Rondo for longer than I did in The Expanse. Do they seem towny to you?
Spurs, I lived one more day than you did, and in that day I did not learn how to read Rondo

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:57 pm
by GoSpursGo
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:55 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:50 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:45 pm Also kind of silly to say that that a wolf in my position could just sit back and enjoy the status quo in a game where they've only gotten one misyeet. Shrugging off paranoia is not the vibe in that scenario unless you're a top town read, which I am not. Especially if you think my partner was on the board!
hey dubz--you played with Rondo for longer than I did in The Expanse. Do they seem towny to you?
Spurs, I lived one more day than you did, and in that day I did not learn how to read Rondo
lol for some reason I felt like you endgamed

Most unfortunate

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:00 pm
by Dubz
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:57 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:55 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:50 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:45 pm Also kind of silly to say that that a wolf in my position could just sit back and enjoy the status quo in a game where they've only gotten one misyeet. Shrugging off paranoia is not the vibe in that scenario unless you're a top town read, which I am not. Especially if you think my partner was on the board!
hey dubz--you played with Rondo for longer than I did in The Expanse. Do they seem towny to you?
Spurs, I lived one more day than you did, and in that day I did not learn how to read Rondo
lol for some reason I felt like you endgamed

Most unfortunate
I think I would have combusted if that had occurred. I died the night after I shot Sean, which was right and proper.

Rondo I recall got on my nerves with throwing spaghetti at walls. That's about all I remember.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:10 pm
by GoSpursGo
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:00 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:57 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:55 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:50 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:45 pm Also kind of silly to say that that a wolf in my position could just sit back and enjoy the status quo in a game where they've only gotten one misyeet. Shrugging off paranoia is not the vibe in that scenario unless you're a top town read, which I am not. Especially if you think my partner was on the board!
hey dubz--you played with Rondo for longer than I did in The Expanse. Do they seem towny to you?
Spurs, I lived one more day than you did, and in that day I did not learn how to read Rondo
lol for some reason I felt like you endgamed

Most unfortunate
I think I would have combusted if that had occurred. I died the night after I shot Sean, which was right and proper.

Rondo I recall got on my nerves with throwing spaghetti at walls. That's about all I remember.
... do you have any opinions... now?

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:14 pm
by Dubz
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:10 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:00 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:57 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:55 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:50 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:45 pm Also kind of silly to say that that a wolf in my position could just sit back and enjoy the status quo in a game where they've only gotten one misyeet. Shrugging off paranoia is not the vibe in that scenario unless you're a top town read, which I am not. Especially if you think my partner was on the board!
hey dubz--you played with Rondo for longer than I did in The Expanse. Do they seem towny to you?
Spurs, I lived one more day than you did, and in that day I did not learn how to read Rondo
lol for some reason I felt like you endgamed

Most unfortunate
I think I would have combusted if that had occurred. I died the night after I shot Sean, which was right and proper.

Rondo I recall got on my nerves with throwing spaghetti at walls. That's about all I remember.
... do you have any opinions... now?
Not really, I am not putting mental effort into sorting a slot that is difficult to sort at baseline. Especially one that's voted like once. Besides, we are playing the Dubz Sheeps Spurs game, not the other way around.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:18 pm
by GoSpursGo
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:14 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:10 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:00 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:57 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:55 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:50 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:45 pm Also kind of silly to say that that a wolf in my position could just sit back and enjoy the status quo in a game where they've only gotten one misyeet. Shrugging off paranoia is not the vibe in that scenario unless you're a top town read, which I am not. Especially if you think my partner was on the board!
hey dubz--you played with Rondo for longer than I did in The Expanse. Do they seem towny to you?
Spurs, I lived one more day than you did, and in that day I did not learn how to read Rondo
lol for some reason I felt like you endgamed

Most unfortunate
I think I would have combusted if that had occurred. I died the night after I shot Sean, which was right and proper.

Rondo I recall got on my nerves with throwing spaghetti at walls. That's about all I remember.
... do you have any opinions... now?
Not really, I am not putting mental effort into sorting a slot that is difficult to sort at baseline. Especially one that's voted like once. Besides, we are playing the Dubz Sheeps Spurs game, not the other way around.
I didn't mean on Rondo specifically.

You're going to get yeeted tomorrow, probably, if you can't case yourself convincingly as town. Like, if you're scum you have successfully pocketed me so well done, but you're going to need to convince a fair number of other players that you're not just checked out scum, unless you're just cool with being a misyeet.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:37 pm
by Dubz
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:18 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:14 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:10 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:00 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:57 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:55 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:50 pm

hey dubz--you played with Rondo for longer than I did in The Expanse. Do they seem towny to you?
Spurs, I lived one more day than you did, and in that day I did not learn how to read Rondo
lol for some reason I felt like you endgamed

Most unfortunate
I think I would have combusted if that had occurred. I died the night after I shot Sean, which was right and proper.

Rondo I recall got on my nerves with throwing spaghetti at walls. That's about all I remember.
... do you have any opinions... now?
Not really, I am not putting mental effort into sorting a slot that is difficult to sort at baseline. Especially one that's voted like once. Besides, we are playing the Dubz Sheeps Spurs game, not the other way around.
I didn't mean on Rondo specifically.

You're going to get yeeted tomorrow, probably, if you can't case yourself convincingly as town. Like, if you're scum you have successfully pocketed me so well done, but you're going to need to convince a fair number of other players that you're not just checked out scum, unless you're just cool with being a misyeet.
I am aware of my position. I simply don't have the time or energy to do much about it, and in this game state if people need to go through me to get to the last two wolves, I am not sure it's worth the effort to try to convince them otherwise. C'est la vie.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:38 pm
by Dubz
I'll give more reads during the day cycle but it should be pretty clear that you and nutella are my top village reads.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:04 pm
by leetic
Anyway, I'm not 100% certain it was pyxxy that pulled the trigger but I'll leave 'em alone for now I guess. Still, if pyxxy is town that means the wagons yesterday were t/t/t with no real attempts at other wagons (as far as I can tell). We probably are dealing with wolves who aren't obvious

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:05 pm
by leetic
I do recall Mac pushing nutella though, were there any others who were strongly entertaining that possibility?

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:07 pm
by GoSpursGo
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:05 pm I do recall Mac pushing nutella though, were there any others who were strongly entertaining that possibility?
I believe you should discuss with gims and DM

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:25 pm
by leetic
DrWilgy: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 Trekkie99, D3 Epignosis, D4 Epignosis
Dubz: D1 leetic, D2 Jess, D3 Long Con, D4 pyxxy
Duelist Mirage: D1 Dubz, D2 leetic, D3 Long Con, D4 pyxxy
Gims: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 Trekkie99, D3 pyxxy, D4 leetic
GoSpursGo: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 MacDougall, D3 Long Con, D4 oyxxy
Jess: D1 Epignosis, D2 Trekkie99, D3 slank, D4 leetic
leetic: D1 Duelist Mirage, D2 Trekkie99, D3 pyxxy, D4 pyxxy
MacDougall: D1 Porscha, D2 RondoDimBuckle, D3 Long Con, D4 leetic
Nutella: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 MacDougall, D3 Long Con, D4 leetic
Porscha: D1 slank, D2 Trekkie99, D3 slank, D4 pyxxy
Pyxxy: D1 RondoDimBuckle, D2 MacDougall, D3 Long Con, D4 Epignosis
RondoDimBuckle: D1 slank, D2 MacDougall, D3 slank, D4 leetic
Scotty: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 Trekkie99, D3 pyxxy, D4 pyxxy
Tranq: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 Trekkie99, D3 Long Con, D4 pyxxy

NicoleandDime: D1 Vivax
Trekkie99: D1 Dubz, D2 leetic
Vivax: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 leetic
Long Con: D1 Duelist Mirage, D2 slank, D3 slank
Michelle : D1 Duelist Mirage, D2 Trekkie99, D3 pyxxy
Epignosis: D1 Duelist Mirage, D2 leetic, D3 pyxxy, D4 pyxxy

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:30 pm
by GoSpursGo
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:25 pm DrWilgy: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 Trekkie99, D3 Epignosis, D4 Epignosis
Dubz: D1 leetic, D2 Jess, D3 Long Con, D4 pyxxy
Duelist Mirage: D1 Dubz, D2 leetic, D3 Long Con, D4 pyxxy
Gims: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 Trekkie99, D3 pyxxy, D4 leetic
GoSpursGo: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 MacDougall, D3 Long Con, D4 oyxxy
Jess: D1 Epignosis, D2 Trekkie99, D3 slank, D4 leetic
leetic: D1 Duelist Mirage, D2 Trekkie99, D3 pyxxy, D4 pyxxy
MacDougall: D1 Porscha, D2 RondoDimBuckle, D3 Long Con, D4 leetic
Nutella: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 MacDougall, D3 Long Con, D4 leetic
Porscha: D1 slank, D2 Trekkie99, D3 slank, D4 pyxxy
Pyxxy: D1 RondoDimBuckle, D2 MacDougall, D3 Long Con, D4 Epignosis
RondoDimBuckle: D1 slank, D2 MacDougall, D3 slank, D4 leetic
Scotty: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 Trekkie99, D3 pyxxy, D4 pyxxy
Tranq: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 Trekkie99, D3 Long Con, D4 pyxxy

NicoleandDime: D1 Vivax
Trekkie99: D1 Dubz, D2 leetic
Vivax: D1 NicoleandDime, D2 leetic
Long Con: D1 Duelist Mirage, D2 slank, D3 slank
Michelle : D1 Duelist Mirage, D2 Trekkie99, D3 pyxxy
Epignosis: D1 Duelist Mirage, D2 leetic, D3 pyxxy, D4 pyxxy
This is a nice collection of data.

Did you form any conclusions from your work?

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:31 pm
by leetic
Voting LC over pyxxy is likely a towntell, even in w!pyxxy worlds LC's role gives them increased survivability. Looking at the above, a bus on Trekkie might be likely given how you have players like jess and Porscha whose voting records don't look great outside of D2 (although I recognize I fall in this boat as well). As for the D1 CW, two players on it flipped town, one flipped wolf and the other is me, I don't think three of the voters on the wagon being town really moves the needle for my read on Duelist; while LC was on the wagon I still feel like wolves could've done more to push that wagon (or another one) over Nicole but given that all three flipped wolves were rather passive players they might not have felt capable of accomplishing a major shift. That, or they wanted to put all their eggs in the two remaining players

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:42 pm
by leetic
D1 was probably a good time to bus as there was no other wagon that was going to realistically going to overtake Nicole (though there are some wolves who are more reluctant to bus in such a scenario, feeling that the later joiners on such a wagon will be under higher scrutiny for bussing. D2 wolves had other options like me and (if he's town) MacDougall, though LC's absence may have limited their ability to stack one of those wagons and put it over the top. As for D3, if LC's not going to show up again he isn't realistically a huge loss, though we can only speculate as to whether he'd have been more active D4 (his partners likely had a better idea). As far as I can tell, wolves don't have a role cop here so I don't believe the wolves thinking pyxxy was president was a factor (though them knowing one was in the setup, and potentially trying to PR hunt for it, may have influenced their decisions). We know that some bussing did occur, RDB is the only living player who didn't vote a flipped wolf (and keep in mind Epi didn't either but flipped town) but the question is who

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY ONE]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:55 pm
by leetic
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 6:51 am Apologies, my friends, for I was attending a conference with the Academy last night, and wow, many, many great ideas and presenters. You really should go! Very eye opening.

I saw that Vivax was asking for a vote from me specifically. Not sure why, I don't think he's ever come by the lab, or exchanged ideas with me and my team. Apologies again for the late response, but the NAI of course takes precedence! Let's ehhhhh power up the device and see what it -- oh! I didn't expect sparks. Must increase the bandwitch capacitor perhaps.

There was a brief readout though, I hope it wasn't proximity interference, so I will [VOTE: vivax] aubergine at this time!
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 10:12 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:45 pm
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:15 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 8:31 pm
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 8:21 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 7:04 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:30 pm

I do agree with this

But I also think he is an easy mark

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine
WTF is this post? If I'm wolfy for making that post what does it say about you for agreeing with it? [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Anyway still catching up
That he has nuanced towny thoughts rather than say, perhaps trying to point out a "contradiction" in order to have something to push, like wolves are more likely to do?
What exactly is the "nuance" here?
Being able to shamelessly exist in the state where Epi's posting does not seem good but also pushing him for it does not seem good, because his alignment is unknown
Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?
BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP.

Oh! Oh my. One moment, please. The Perspective Discrepancy Module has never actually done that before.

"Because his alignment is unknown."

Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly? From a Town perspective, everyone's alignment is unknown. But you seem to be separating Epi into a particular category of player whose alignment you don't know.

[VOTE: duelist] aubergine
Looked at LC's Duelist vote (as well as his other vote, on a flipped town which I believe overlapped with Nicole's vote on the slot (but I am not 100% sure as TS does not keep 100% accurate vote histories like MU does and Nicole either didn't vote me when she said she did or switched back to Vivax after voting me but never posted that vote in the thread) so it does seem like this wolf team is willing to stack their votes). This does feel like an easy excuse to jump on the wagon, plus it's falling back on my reasoning rather than LC trying to take full credit for it on his own, so it does look more like a scummy vote than a bus vote to me

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:02 pm
by leetic
Still, we know that Nicole didn't bus, LC probably didn't bus, and Trekkie maybe didn't bus (I'm not confident on the Dubz slot). You'd think there'd be more tension in deepwolf worlds, but maybe they got dealt a rough hand (especially with LC's inactivity limiting what wolves could gain out of their death).

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY TWO]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:06 pm
by leetic
Trekkie99 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:06 pm [VOTE: Dubz] aubergine
Trekkie99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 10:43 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 10:40 pm
Trekkie99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 10:37 pm
jess wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 10:35 pm
Trekkie99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 10:34 pm [VOTE: leetic] aubergine
why leetic?
It’s not Mac, Vivax is cool, and leetic has been giving me salty vibes all day.
Can you please explain why it's not Mac, or point me to where you already explained this?
Sorry I meant as in it’s someone else to vote aside from Mac.
Maybe he’s scum IDK but his frustration feels real
Looking at the Dubz vote it's really shallow and seems to have been a vanity wagon park in the middle of D1. Though they also needed to be pushed to explain their vote on me. Hard to really say much one way or the other here.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY ONE]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:15 pm
by leetic
NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:33 am
Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 7:35 am
NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2026 10:14 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2026 10:11 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2026 10:06 pm
NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2026 4:22 pm ello ello
NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2026 7:41 pm
gims wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2026 2:52 pm

Image

we're towncoring here, friends, hop on!
No
What makes this mafia
What makes it not mafia?
Image
This Miltank did not answer the question at hand though.
Or do you mean the Miltank represents your own “No” post being a shitpost?

Here’s an origami Miltank:
Image
Is not mafia? Seems simple enough.

This feels like an oddly serious reading of obvious screwing around.
Especially I'm pretty sure that miltank is papermache not origami. [VOTE: tranq] aubergine
NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 3:57 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 1:54 pm Image
<3 Though I wish we met in the ring

[VOTE: Vivax] aubergine
NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 11:01 pm Yeah leetic is feeling survivalistic here and I don't really like them just bemoaning the wagon on them. I actually feel quite a bit better about this wagon than earlier.

[VOTE: Leetic ] aubergine

Anyway gotta bounce for rest of day prolly, maybe can check in once more in like an hour.
For the sake of completeness here's all of Nicole's votes, though as I said before Nicole would have had to have moved back to Vivax at some point according to the EoD count Golden posted (assuming the vote even went through, but according to Scotty's #875 it did). The Vivax vote was a sheep of Spurs per #223 though I have no idea why she went back considering she was pushing me a bit harder and Dubz was still voting me making it not a vanity. Still, Nicole could've gone for a bus here but didn't and the fact that the wolves killed Vivax quickly suggests that they didn't even want to push that angle. As for the Tranq vote, it's a meaningless early day interaction, Nicole did defend Tranq a bit later for what it's worth. Tranq is the only person who was three for three on flipped wolves so eh.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY TWO]

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:39 pm
by Scotty
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:42 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:29 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:31 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:21 pm Because this:
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amsup
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 am [VOTE: Epi] aubergine
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amgood night
He did both Day 3 and Day 4. That’s dripping with purpose
OK, but why is voting and dipping inherently scummy in your eyes from Wilgy?

Like, your POE is just the two least active alive players. Do you generally find Wilgy's activity to AI? Do you think all of the wolves are just rolling over and playing possum and hoping the town eats itself alive?
….because doing so to someone that is now confirmed town is scummy behavior.

And you’re making it sound like I’m going for these two players because they’re the least active. Not so- I’m finding them wolfy because their pushes are lackluster on the confirmed wolves. They just also happen to be the lowest posters :shrug:
I mean a bunch of players pushed Michelle on day 1. Was that scummy behavior as well?

I don't find you saying that Wilgy's push on the confirmed wolves to be consistent with what you said about their votes on Nicole and Trek in the post I originally quoted. Can you clarify what made those votes lackluster?
Not sure we’re talking in the same frequency here; and that’s ok. Voting Michelle = / = how Wilgy approached Epi.

And I think I already clarified what I found fishy about both of their votes surrounding Nicole/Trekkie/LC.

Wilgy’s looks best on the surface for how nonchalant and pointed he was regarding trekkie in particular. I am running with the idea that Trekkie would be the most likely candidate for bussing

I could be very wrong about Wilgy. I can just as easily see him as a town with limited time.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 12:37 am
by Golden
FAQ - I can see that the exact nature of rules around role-claiming are once again unclear and that it is causing some frustration in the thread about what is or is not in bounds, so this post is intended to create additional clarity.

It is OK to speculate that other people are a roles based on public information (but not information you have gathered with your role power). This is not the same thing as claiming you are not that role, because a person who is the role is also entitled to speculate that other people are that role (ie lie) or claim outright not to be that role.

Let me give you an example. The role of LAWYER on the matrix can remove people from the poll the next day, but cannot target themselves. If I am not on the poll and you believe the game has a lawyer in it, you can speculate that I am not the lawyer, and as the field narrows down, you can speculate as to who IS the lawyer. This is an intended part of the balance of the matrix, that the town can gain in some instances gain some information through public means and therefore talk about the meaning of that information.

However, a warning on seppuku. The rule states that "Seppuku cannot be induced... by others correctly identifying their role rather than the player's own thread content." I can see now that this might be misleading and I want to make sure that you all have clarity on one point. If you identify someone's role based on their thread content and then you post about that in the thread, posts you make about that might well be used as part of a case for seppuku, as evidence that the role was effectively implied in thread. Indeed, if anyone hints well enough that it is clear to me that they have successfully revealed themselves to even one player in thread, and the mafia see the same thing and correctly identify the person's role as a result, it is very likely that the seppuku attempt will be successful. This specific rule was intended to avoid a situation where someone receives seppuku solely based on the speculation of another and not their own thread content.

Finally, I have had players ask me if certain things are in bounds in this game. I always encourage this. However, if I say something is in bounds, that means it is not infodumping/role claiming. It does not mean that it could not lead to successful seppuku. You should always handle your information with care.


The golden rule remains - talk to me first if you're unsure. I will be open and honest about both what you can and can't post and what I see as being something that could get you in trouble with seppuku. I do not want anyone to be blindsided by suddenly being surprisingly dead.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 12:48 am
by Golden
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 8:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 7:13 pm While I can acknowledge Sensei, I don't think I could possibly bow, that'd risk derailment.
@Golden could we get a ruling on if this makes a valid vote?
It did, lol. And a valid roleplay post.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 1:04 am
by Golden
The following people met the prize conditions on night four (and are still alive):

Duelist Mirage
GoSpursGo
Rondo
Scotty
Tranq

Entry for funniest post - Rondo (for the full progression).

Prize will be awarded in Discord

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 1:27 am
by RondoDimBuckle
guys I think Ive figured out @Golden is host.

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 1:35 am
by Tranq
Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:24 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:53 pm Im pretty much at 1 in jess/scott or 1 in leetic/mac or dubz/nutella since DM put out a good point on that, nutella/leetic, gospurs/? (this one is just a fantasy world)
What happened to you thinking Mac was exactly one town role?
Rondo Rousey, can you spill the tea on your Mac thoughts?

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 1:44 am
by Porscha
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:55 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:50 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:45 pm Also kind of silly to say that that a wolf in my position could just sit back and enjoy the status quo in a game where they've only gotten one misyeet. Shrugging off paranoia is not the vibe in that scenario unless you're a top town read, which I am not. Especially if you think my partner was on the board!
hey dubz--you played with Rondo for longer than I did in The Expanse. Do they seem towny to you?
Spurs, I lived one more day than you did, and in that day I did not learn how to read Rondo
real shit

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 1:47 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 1:35 am
Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:24 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:53 pm Im pretty much at 1 in jess/scott or 1 in leetic/mac or dubz/nutella since DM put out a good point on that, nutella/leetic, gospurs/? (this one is just a fantasy world)
What happened to you thinking Mac was exactly one town role?
Rondo Rousey, can you spill the tea on your Mac thoughts?
I can
Spoiler: show
will I? no

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:06 am
by Porscha
considering popping into thread every 12 hours to find a real shit typa post and then type real shit

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:09 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:06 am considering popping into thread every 12 hours to find a real shit typa post and then type real shit
gonna help me kill spurs or gims tomorrow?

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:45 am
by Porscha
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:09 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:06 am considering popping into thread every 12 hours to find a real shit typa post and then type real shit
gonna help me kill spurs or gims tomorrow?
no i'm trying to win

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:51 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:45 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:09 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:06 am considering popping into thread every 12 hours to find a real shit typa post and then type real shit
gonna help me kill spurs or gims tomorrow?
no i'm trying to win
6th mafia

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:54 am
by Porscha
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:51 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:45 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:09 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:06 am considering popping into thread every 12 hours to find a real shit typa post and then type real shit
gonna help me kill spurs or gims tomorrow?
no i'm trying to win
6th mafia
that's powerful

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 3:37 am
by RondoDimBuckle
im booooooooooooooored

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 3:37 am
by RondoDimBuckle
hopefully tomorrow its 5 posts again

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 4:55 am
by Golden
DrWilgy
Voters: None

Dubz
Voters: None

Duelist Mirage
Voters: None

Epignosis
Voters: pyxxy, DrWilgy

Gims
Voters: None

GoSpursGo
Voters: None

Jess
Voters: None

leetic
Voters: nutella, gims, RondoDimBuckle, MacDougall, jess

MacDougall
Voters: None

Nutella
Voters: None

Porscha
Voters: None

Pyxxy
Voters: Scotty, leetic, Porscha, Epignosis, Dubz, GoSpursGo, Tranq, Duelist Mirage

RondoDimBuckle
Voters: None

Scotty
Voters: None

Tranq
Voters: None

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 5:02 am
by Golden
MOUNT FUJI

"Ah, thank you all for your tribute" the elderly man says. "We have now reached the most sacred sight in all of Japan. It is the peak of Mount Fuji, the most symmetrical mountain in the world. It might be here that you make your last stand. Or perhaps we will move on. We shall see..."

"Our last stand?" asks a samurai "There is honour in that."

"Indeed, we shall continue throwing rolling barrels until we cannot." a man in a suit says.

People look around for the familiar rawr or a Kaiju... but it appears to have been silenced.

Dubz has died.

Their affiliation was:

Spoiler: show
MAFIA


Their role was:

Spoiler: show
Bus Driver - You will target two players each night. If both of those players are actively targeting someone, their targets will be switched.


You have 48 hours on the slops of Mount Fuji. What will you do with it?

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY FIVE]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 5:05 am
by leetic
[VOTE: Jess] aubergine

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY FIVE]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 5:05 am
by Tranq
[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY FIVE]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 5:06 am
by gims
Image

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY FIVE]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 5:06 am
by gims
[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY FIVE]

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 5:07 am
by gims
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2026 5:05 am [VOTE: Jess] aubergine
Probably towny to be openvoting like this