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Well, I was thinking of something that might be just the opposite - what if boogs was pretending to be cursed yesterday and today is really cursed. The thing I keep coming back to though is what Long Con said and that's why would anyone curse boogs to begin with.nijuukyugou wrote:But he WAS taking attention with the smileys and his unusual silence. I suppose you mean he's not taking lynch attention on himself this round so far?thellama73 wrote:I tend to trust Boogs on this, because I don't think he has a strong incentive to lie right now. He was not taking any attention, so he doesn't need to save himself. If he were bad, he could simply stay silent and still have a good chance of seeing a civvie lynched. I don't think anyone was in such immediate, inevitable danger that this kind of hail Mary would be necessary.
I'd like to believe that he's telling the truth, but people are making good points about why this sort of "info dropping" is being allowed (e.g., a curse). But then again, as others have said, why Boogs? And why twice? Which is the more logical - that the same quiet person is cursed twice by two different people, or that Boogs is actually in his right mind this round and has a genuinely good reason to suspect Bullz? Or just in his right mind and suspects Bullz without a genuinely good reason?
Yeah, that's not exactly pinpointing anything, but it's helping me get my thoughts out, and perhaps someone could bounce ideas off with me?
I am undecided on bullz. Leaning civ, but if I am wrong about llama than I will reconsider that. (and my distrust of Boogsjuliets wrote:Well, I was thinking of something that might be just the opposite - what if boogs was pretending to be cursed yesterday and today is really cursed. The thing I keep coming back to though is what Long Con said and that's why would anyone curse boogs to begin with.nijuukyugou wrote:But he WAS taking attention with the smileys and his unusual silence. I suppose you mean he's not taking lynch attention on himself this round so far?thellama73 wrote:I tend to trust Boogs on this, because I don't think he has a strong incentive to lie right now. He was not taking any attention, so he doesn't need to save himself. If he were bad, he could simply stay silent and still have a good chance of seeing a civvie lynched. I don't think anyone was in such immediate, inevitable danger that this kind of hail Mary would be necessary.
I'd like to believe that he's telling the truth, but people are making good points about why this sort of "info dropping" is being allowed (e.g., a curse). But then again, as others have said, why Boogs? And why twice? Which is the more logical - that the same quiet person is cursed twice by two different people, or that Boogs is actually in his right mind this round and has a genuinely good reason to suspect Bullz? Or just in his right mind and suspects Bullz without a genuinely good reason?
Yeah, that's not exactly pinpointing anything, but it's helping me get my thoughts out, and perhaps someone could bounce ideas off with me?
Maybe I should move away from boogs and ask if anyone has seen anything about bullz that looks baddie? I haven't seen anything.
)What accusations are you referring to? I will be happy to respond, but I don't know what you mean.LoRab wrote: I repeat my question to llama about if he responded to svs/god's accusations. Will hold off on voting but that's where my vote will likely go.
I have no idea what I am supposed to say to that. That is not an accusation one can defend against. "SVS said you're bad, what do you say?" I say I'm not bad.LoRab wrote:Svs was pretty darn sure that you were bad when she died. What's your response to that.
I'm voting now.for.llama. I will try to.be.back later.to.see.if.anything changes.my mind.
thellama73 wrote:You guys are going to have such egg on your face.
Seriously don't. I mean, I know you are mafia, juliets, but wouldn't you rather keep me around to absorb votes from you and your kind than be on record voting to kill a civ?juliets wrote:I'm going to be out running errands and don't know that I'll be back before the lynch is over so I'm going to go ahead and vote llama.
What reasons? I asked you bfeore and you just said: "She thinks you are bad." Give me something to respond to and I will respond to it.LoRab wrote:Need to vote now. Svs gave reasons for her suspicion, which he didn't answer the. Not does he now. Just saying no I'm not bad does t cut it for me.
I did but it was a long time ago and I don't remember what she said. Refresh my memory.LoRab wrote:Did you not read her posts?
Attacked? really?thellama73 wrote:I've been attacked by everybody, over everything. I legitimately don't know which attacks you're referring to or I would answer them.
Ah, didn't think of that possibility. I don't have strong suspicions of Bullzeye, and while I'd like to give Boogs a chance, just saying Bullz is bad doesn't give me anything to go on. I understand he says he can't say more, but...to stave off the possibility that you might be cursed today, I'd like to wait on it. And see if you can say more later.juliets wrote:Well, I was thinking of something that might be just the opposite - what if boogs was pretending to be cursed yesterday and today is really cursed. The thing I keep coming back to though is what Long Con said and that's why would anyone curse boogs to begin with.nijuukyugou wrote:But he WAS taking attention with the smileys and his unusual silence. I suppose you mean he's not taking lynch attention on himself this round so far?thellama73 wrote:I tend to trust Boogs on this, because I don't think he has a strong incentive to lie right now. He was not taking any attention, so he doesn't need to save himself. If he were bad, he could simply stay silent and still have a good chance of seeing a civvie lynched. I don't think anyone was in such immediate, inevitable danger that this kind of hail Mary would be necessary.
I'd like to believe that he's telling the truth, but people are making good points about why this sort of "info dropping" is being allowed (e.g., a curse). But then again, as others have said, why Boogs? And why twice? Which is the more logical - that the same quiet person is cursed twice by two different people, or that Boogs is actually in his right mind this round and has a genuinely good reason to suspect Bullz? Or just in his right mind and suspects Bullz without a genuinely good reason?
Yeah, that's not exactly pinpointing anything, but it's helping me get my thoughts out, and perhaps someone could bounce ideas off with me?
Maybe I should move away from boogs and ask if anyone has seen anything about bullz that looks baddie? I haven't seen anything.
Here he seems to say, well I voted for MM, but I actually suspected him, unlike all these other bandwagoners. It just doesn't ring entirely true to me.Bullzeye wrote:I was actually surprised so many people jumped onto that vote. I'd had a gut feeling about MM for most of the game but it seemed like nobody other than LoRab really agreed with me until today. There was definitely something fishy going on there.fingersplints wrote:RIP MM. I felt like some of the votes there were a bit suspicious, and seemed like it was out of nowhere to save Mongoose. Lorab was talking about him for a while, so I think hers could be genuinely misguided.
Roxy wrote:
llama has been lynched he was Dennis' Mom - a Civvie
It is now night 7
Shocking.Bullzeye wrote:Well that was the most excruciating day ever. I can't believe nobody seemed to pick up on the fact I was silenced. I'll get to that in a minute but right now everyone better hold on to your butts because I'm about to violently (and boy do I ever mean violently) shake this thread in a manner similar to what might be expected of a wind hitting force 12 on the Beaufort Scale.
Boogs wrote:Rip Keterman and MM
Boogs wrote:If you ask how I know, my whiskers tingled when he touched me and it didn't feel Civ or Knightlike and I think he's a murderer.
Linki JC I can't unfortunately. Just know, that I know.
Seriously Boogs what the actual F are these? Because they read like you're hinting at info. AKA infodumping. But I know you aren't because if you had info you'd know I'm a civ. So you're fake infodumping. About someone who conveniently happened to be silenced and unable to defend himself. But then I'd bet you already knew that since you or someone in league with you did it.Boogs wrote:As I looked through my kitty magic mirror, the image of Bullzeye did appear to be foggy and much darkness surrounded him. The knights of round table thus warned me to not let him go on, but alas the crowd of confused Civs did not believe the kitty and pursue the lead. He has escaped as a minion of Mordred far too long as now is the time to vote the Bullz of the eyes out and banish him back to the darkness which he came! Mrow!
Llama clearly wanted to save himself here so I can forgive him for buying Boogs' crap.thellama73 wrote:I tend to trust Boogs on this, because I don't think he has a strong incentive to lie right now. He was not taking any attention, so he doesn't need to save himself. If he were bad, he could simply stay silent and still have a good chance of seeing a civvie lynched. I don't think anyone was in such immediate, inevitable danger that this kind of hail Mary would be necessary.
You want to believe a guy who obviously faked being cursed, with absolutely no reason to trust him? A guy who, despite having been blendier than a smoothie, accused me of being bad first because I (one of the highest posters) was apparently blendy?nijuukyugou wrote: I'd like to believe that he's telling the truth, but people are making good points about why this sort of "info dropping" is being allowed (e.g., a curse). But then again, as others have said, why Boogs? And why twice? Which is the more logical - that the same quiet person is cursed twice by two different people, or that Boogs is actually in his right mind this round and has a genuinely good reason to suspect Bullz? Or just in his right mind and suspects Bullz without a genuinely good reason?
Boogs isn't really infodumping, he's just pretending to. He has no info. He has less info than a stone. In fact, I take that back. Geologists could probably learn a lot from a stone. Nobody can learn anything from Boogs in this game except how to suck at being bad, and nobody wants to learn that. As far as the MM comment goes, that wasn't my intention. I had just felt like my suspicion of him hadn't been getting much support and was surprised to see so many people agreed. If I hadn't been silenced I'd have gone through his voters to properly look and see if anyone was jumping onto a bandwagon but then Boogs pretty much outed himself to me.Hedgeowl wrote:I have seen SVS convinced Llama was bad before when he was civ, so 'God told us to' seems like a convenient excuse. I will bow down before her almighty ness if I am wrong though.
I am specifically not a fan of info-dumping either, so I hesitate with Boogs' warning of Bullz. However, Bullz' post about the "sudden" suspicion of MM after we had already had a day where Made, MM, and Mongoose were discussed as M for baddie candidates seems off to me. MM had also received lots of scrutiny for the early 'French' comment. I know for one felt that Mongoose was not my top suspect.
Here he seems to say, well I voted for MM, but I actually suspected him, unlike all these other bandwagoners. It just doesn't ring entirely true to me.Bullzeye wrote:I was actually surprised so many people jumped onto that vote. I'd had a gut feeling about MM for most of the game but it seemed like nobody other than LoRab really agreed with me until today. There was definitely something fishy going on there.fingersplints wrote:RIP MM. I felt like some of the votes there were a bit suspicious, and seemed like it was out of nowhere to save Mongoose. Lorab was talking about him for a while, so I think hers could be genuinely misguided.
I do think more suspicion of Bulls is warranted. However, I am going to vote LC this go round. I think he could have done more if he were so convinced SVS was god than just let her be lynched and claim he knew afterwards,
Votes LC
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Splints I hate infodumping with a passion. If I'd been able to post when he first came out with that fake shit I'd have probably sworn a lot at him. I wouldn't have faked being silenced. I'd have SCREAMED so loud he'd actually hear it in the US.fingersplints wrote:goddammit. I'm really sorry llama. I'm also sorry Boogs. I wish I had listened to you. bullz had me fooled. I now know better.
Shocking.Bullzeye wrote:Well that was the most excruciating day ever. I can't believe nobody seemed to pick up on the fact I was silenced. I'll get to that in a minute but right now everyone better hold on to your butts because I'm about to violently (and boy do I ever mean violently) shake this thread in a manner similar to what might be expected of a wind hitting force 12 on the Beaufort Scale.
Bullzeye wrote:Splints I hate infodumping with a passion. If I'd been able to post when he first came out with that fake shit I'd have probably sworn a lot at him. I wouldn't have faked being silenced. I'd have SCREAMED so loud he'd actually hear it in the US.fingersplints wrote:goddammit. I'm really sorry llama. I'm also sorry Boogs. I wish I had listened to you. bullz had me fooled. I now know better.
Shocking.Bullzeye wrote:Well that was the most excruciating day ever. I can't believe nobody seemed to pick up on the fact I was silenced. I'll get to that in a minute but right now everyone better hold on to your butts because I'm about to violently (and boy do I ever mean violently) shake this thread in a manner similar to what might be expected of a wind hitting force 12 on the Beaufort Scale.
I wish it could be different, bullz. But it isn't.You're bad. You're also so full of shit it's a wonder we don't confuse you for a sewer. You don't know anything and to be honest the way you're playing right now is a total dick move.Boogs wrote:I'm not bad Bullzeye. I also know you're not Civ, so vote me if you want but I know what I know
What you're doing is fake infodumping. You're making all these vague comments pushing people toward voting for me as if you have a big reason you can't share (but you don't) in the hope people pile on me. It's how cheaters infodump. It's what you're doing now except in this case you have ABSOLUTELY ZERO INFO AND NO DAMN IDEA WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE EVEN TALKING ABOUT.Boogs wrote:. Furthermore, it's up to everyone else to elaborate and decide if they want to believe me or not based on me just saying I Strongly believe you're bad and have for a while now.
You know how to build a case. You just can't because there isn't one. But for whatever reason your team want me out of the way so you're acting like you have info when you don't.Boogs wrote:I don't know how to build a case on you without saying things, but I don't trust you.
All this says is "I'm a baddie throwing out accusations against anyone who doubts me". It has to be you tomorrow. I won't settle for less. I want your head on a plate.Boogs wrote:I think JC is being an excellent actress in this game and I keep reading her posts as fake with a hint of Baddie trying to pose as Civ. Either of you could be bad, maybe you're both on the same team! It's getting harder to win unless the Civs vote the right way, and I think it has to be one of the two of you tomorrow IMO.
Ooh scare tactics, that's a civ move if ever there was one. Nice way to distance yourself from everyone else as well. Still, no comment on faking that curse?Boogs wrote:I'm still thinking there are 2 Baddie teams, and it's way too dangerous since we know Enrique was recruited so out of who's left, who knows how many are. The way you all keep piling on people is scaring me like the Llama train that ended up happening and MM.
Boogs if you think I am baddie then present a case. I'll be waiting to respond to it. I am not a baddie, an indy, a neutral - any of those other roles - I am a civ. If you can't present a case, just like you can't on bullz then I can't trust your judgement as I know I'm civ.Boogs wrote:I'm not bad Bullzeye. I also know you're not Civ, so vote me if you want but I know what I know. Furthermore, it's up to everyone else to elaborate and decide if they want to believe me or not based on me just saying I Strongly believe you're bad and have for a while now. I don't know how to build a case on you without saying things, but I don't trust you. I think JC is being an excellent actress in this game and I keep reading her posts as fake with a hint of Baddie trying to pose as Civ. Either of you could be bad, maybe you're both on the same team! It's getting harder to win unless the Civs vote the right way, and I think it has to be one of the two of you tomorrow IMO. I'm still thinking there are 2 Baddie teams, and it's way too dangerous since we know Enrique was recruited so out of who's left, who knows how many are. The way you all keep piling on people is scaring me like the Llama train that ended up happening and MM.
He's not doing cases this game. He's just making ridiculous comments that imply he has info when he knows he doesn't.juliets wrote:Boogs if you think I am baddie then present a case. I'll be waiting to respond to it. I am not a baddie, an indy, a neutral - any of those other roles - I am a civ. If you can't present a case, just like you can't on bullz then I can't trust your judgement as I know I'm civ.Boogs wrote:I'm not bad Bullzeye. I also know you're not Civ, so vote me if you want but I know what I know. Furthermore, it's up to everyone else to elaborate and decide if they want to believe me or not based on me just saying I Strongly believe you're bad and have for a while now. I don't know how to build a case on you without saying things, but I don't trust you. I think JC is being an excellent actress in this game and I keep reading her posts as fake with a hint of Baddie trying to pose as Civ. Either of you could be bad, maybe you're both on the same team! It's getting harder to win unless the Civs vote the right way, and I think it has to be one of the two of you tomorrow IMO. I'm still thinking there are 2 Baddie teams, and it's way too dangerous since we know Enrique was recruited so out of who's left, who knows how many are. The way you all keep piling on people is scaring me like the Llama train that ended up happening and MM.
linki
If you didn't fake a curse what was the only posting in smileys thing about? Because nobody else on any other day in this game has been cursed like that. So I'd believe you're the supreme overlord of the galaxy and have blue skin and three heads before I believe you were cursed that day. You've faked info and basically cheated to try to get me out. Both of those things piss me off. When I'm mad I swear, especially at people who've made me mad. Deal with it. I actually reported you to the hosts for your fake infodumping because it frustrated me that much. Also very convenient for you that I was silenced and unable to defend myself when you started throwing it into the thread, isn't it?Boogs wrote:Bullzeye I didn't fake a curse, and you're taking it way too crazy. While I think you're bad, you don't need to compare me to things and curse at me. I'm not lying when I say I think you're bad and that I feel I know why. Whether people want to believe me or not is up to them.
I wasn't making fake things up! I have my reasonings, and maybe the reasonings are incorrect so I'm willing to listen but you yelling at me and saying I silenced you isn't helping me try to figure out what the heck is going on with things on my side. I didn't silence you, I don't have teammates and I'm not bad. I could be wrong about you with the things that have occurred, so please enlighten me and put our brains together so we can figure out what truly happened and who may have silenced you and why you're not bad.Bullzeye wrote:If you didn't fake a curse what was the only posting in smileys thing about? Because nobody else on any other day in this game has been cursed like that. So I'd believe you're the supreme overlord of the galaxy and have blue skin and three heads before I believe you were cursed that day. You've faked info and basically cheated to try to get me out. Both of those things piss me off. When I'm mad I swear, especially at people who've made me mad. Deal with it. I actually reported you to the hosts for your fake infodumping because it frustrated me that much. Also very convenient for you that I was silenced and unable to defend myself when you started throwing it into the thread, isn't it?Boogs wrote:Bullzeye I didn't fake a curse, and you're taking it way too crazy. While I think you're bad, you don't need to compare me to things and curse at me. I'm not lying when I say I think you're bad and that I feel I know why. Whether people want to believe me or not is up to them.
Linki - Roxy messaged you partly because I complained to the hosts that you seemed to be making up fake infodumps about me while I couldn't even defend.
Sorry llama.thellama73 wrote:Told you. Have fun, everyone! Thanks for a great game, Roxy and DisPor!
Is it not blatantly obvious who I'm saying silenced me? YOU. BOOGS. THE GUY WITH THE CAT AVATAR. THE GUY WHO IS MAKING UP INFO. B. O. O. G. S. Clear enough? To be fair, as soon as I got the message I assumed you'd done it. Your fake infodumps only confirmed it. You have no reason to think anything, let's just drop that pretense right now. Whether there are one, two, or seven billion baddie teams I'm not part of any of them. I was silenced. I can't shut myself up, I have to comment on things, it would be impossible for me to fake it. It would also be stupid. I considered breaking my curse to tell you to get over yourself several times and it took a lot of restraint to not do that. I guess I just respect the rules.Boogs wrote:Bullzeye, if you were silenced truly, then who would you say would have silenced you if you are not bad and are Civ? I can't think of anyone who would have done that but it would make sense to silence you in hopes of people voting you out for the Baddies advantage.. I'm willing to listen to you and give you a chance, but like I said I think there are probably 2 Baddie teams and I really have a good reason to think you're part of one of them.
Boogs, i am talking about you presenting a case on me, not bullz. You said I was a baddie. So I await your case.Boogs wrote:JC if I did have anything, I can't say. Which is why I'm not. I already got messaged by Roxy for making vague comments, so I'm not saying anything else about the matter besides you guys can decide if you want to believe Bullzeye is bad or not.