Havok wrote:
So, you are saying that Epig would make sure to pick a civvie as the first person to have a Danger Room ID just so as to not put suspicion on someone? I don't see the logic with this. Polaris didn't receive any suspicion whatsoever for having a Danger Room ID first.
I don't know. But I would be nervous as a host putting a baddie out front and center on Day One, knowing that ANYTHING that makes someone stand out is fairly likely to get them lynched.
Polaris wrote:These books don't sound very pleasant; I went with My Latest Invention.
I realize I did miss the vote deadline, but I don't feel particularly bad, I didn't really have anyone I wanted to vote for. At least there's no penalty in this game.
This post really caught my eye. So, I took a look at what you have posted so far in the game, and you haven't voiced any suspicion so far. You seem content to sit back and not call anyone out. You seem to be saying in this post "Hey, everyone, I didn't vote for the civvie that just got lynched".
So, you have not suspicions whatsoever???
I didn't voice any suspicion, so I must not have any suspicions yet!!! Nice work detective.
And no, I did not see anything that made me want to vote. Sure, I could have popped in and dropped a meaningless vote on someone, but what good would that have done?
And yes, that's how I usually play. I'm not good at fabricating crazy stories from tiny little 'slip-ups' on Day 1 (which by the way doesn't really work anyway). So I prefer to observe at the beginning. And you're welcome for at least stating my reasons for not voting.
Snarkily responding to a genuine point. That doesn't do you any favors.
And, just to clarify, I didn't point you out because you "don't have any suspicions yet". I find it odd that you just don't seem to care about finding suspicions whatsoever. You seem content just sitting back and doing nothing.
Yes I was making fun, because your deduction was quite redundant considering I had just stated the exact same conclusion you came to. Maybe it was genuine, but it very well could be someone trying to make something of nothing. It is Day 1 after all.
As I originally said, I didn't intend to miss the poll. But considering the circumstances thus far, it's not really a loss. I haven't looked deeply into players' votes yet, but I'm sure there are worse reasons from people who actually did vote. There are also players who have done less this game than I have. There are also players who didn't vote who haven't said a word. I dunno why my admittance has drawn your attention.
Havok wrote:
So, you are saying that Epig would make sure to pick a civvie as the first person to have a Danger Room ID just so as to not put suspicion on someone? I don't see the logic with this. Polaris didn't receive any suspicion whatsoever for having a Danger Room ID first.
I don't know. But I would be nervous as a host putting a baddie out front and center on Day One, knowing that ANYTHING that makes someone stand out is fairly likely to get them lynched.
I don't even know how to respond to this. While I know I'm good, I don't think the fact that my ID (which hasn't shown any significance in the game yet) was revealed on Day 1 is a good way to prove it. And yes, I am as curious as everyone else as to what the ID means.
Victor Creed had been tracking Logan for days across the Canadian wilderness. The trail was getting stronger, and he knew he was close to his foe.
Or as he liked to think, his prey.
So it at once shocked and humiliated Victor when Logan fell on him from above, adamantium claws extended and emitting a growl that was just as keen. The beast of a man dodged a series of blows that fell the tree behind him.
He woke up when the timber struck the ground.
A blade of a different sort was staring him in the face. Magnetism held it poised inches from Sabretooth’s eyes.
“I am displeased,” Magneto said. “You have slept through the night, and you have done nothing.”
No one has been killed.
It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to destroy someone.
The voice of Professor X resonated in everyone's minds:
Mutants! You've had a rocky start, but don't get discouraged. You may be different, but that's what makes you special. You must reach within yourselves to find your self-confidence and unleash your natural leadership potential. That is The Secret.
Longshot wrote:HOST: Did you receive all the pm's expected* last night? Are the posts just storytelling or might there be hints about what happened in them?
*not counting people who use a power on an inconsistent basis or/and people who didn't have powers last night
The writing is literary decoration. Please don't read into it.
White Queen wrote:@Exodus; I believe Mojo said he reread, and that caused him to change his mind.
Yeah, I saw that Mojo reread. I actually just reread his statement to make sure I didn't misinterpret what went on, myself. I suppose him being "confused" as to who the Morlocks were could explain his change in opinion of Avalanche, but I'm not sure that is the case. My problem is, he started out 1. agreeing with Avalanche about looking into conformists, and 2. defending him yet leaving his options open. Both of which to me are kind of scummy considering he switched his opinion so quickly. I'm all for changing opinions, but what I do not understand is why he took the morlock discussion so seriously. How does ignoring or debating with those who say morlocks are good, make him scum? I don't feel like that is a reason to vote (I ask, why would a baddie draw such attention to themselves when unnecessary?), and I feel like he was using the morlock discussion to help force a suspicion. Especially since he is also in a way contradicting the agreeing with #1 (to look at conformists) which should have had nothing to do with Avalanche's alignment (it was an actual opinion that he just contradicted, in my eyes). It doesn't come across sincere to me.
Hawkeye wrote:I would have liked to hear more from Shadowcat because I really didn't like this post and it's what bugged me the most so far.
Shadowcat wrote:Sorry I haven't been around much. I am quite busy fighting supervillians, and will continue to be doing so for a few days. I will try to make some time when I can though.
I thought it was very interesting how Avalance really kept pushing the Morlock Tunnels, when I felt like we had sound logic/advice not to do so. Not sure if he has an ulterior motive or was just being goofy, but I would lean towards the first one. I also thought this was interesting.
Bastion wrote:
Avalanche wrote:
White Queen wrote:
Do you have a motive for wanting people to not go to the school?
Yes. My motive is that I don't want to go there. I want to fight Morlocks.
Why do you want to fight a group of outcasts when the leader of the brotherhood base is on the list?
If you're going to go fight someone, this option makes a lot more sense.
As for the Polaris having an ID thing, I think we'll need more information before we start putting that puzzle together.
I'll be placing my vote here today.
While I agree with the whole logic that is being argued against Avalanche as far as how choosing that option wasn't the best, I do wonder why Shadowcat said that she was leaning towards him doing this because he had an ulterior motive, rather than being goofy because I read it the opposite, since it kept continuing it came across as clearly chaotic/antagonizing behavior. So, Shadowcat, if you haven't explained, can you explain some more about this? If you have I'll hopefully see when catching up.
Mojo wrote:Did bastion just vote and not post? I'm not feeling the greatest about those two quick votes for avalanche so quickly at the end of the poll here..
Linki- ok then
"Quick"? The poll ended at 6:30, I voted at 6:04.
The timing of those two votes just pinged me a bit for a minute. Not enough to make me change my vote though.
I think if avalanche wanted to avoid this he could have answered more of the questions brought to him instead of morlock tunnel vision.
Avoid what? Being lynched? I am not understanding your statement.
You are confusing me and I'm not really sure where you are even going with this. I voted for avalanche because I didn't think his actions day one were civvie-like. He spent most of the time talking about killing morlocks, and the other part not answering questions people were asking him.
Mojo wrote:You are confusing me and I'm not really sure where you are even going with this. I voted for avalanche because I didn't think his actions day one were civvie-like. He spent most of the time talking about killing morlocks, and the other part not answering questions people were asking him.
I thought you said that if Avalanche wanted to avoid getting votes he would have answered the questions, which contradicts the idea that a baddie (you thought he was bad) wants to survive. I don't know how else to explain myself.
Yeah because he was saying "guys please don't lynch me," well.... If you ignore questions and have a focus on something (morlocks) that a) doesn't appear to be something we even have to worry about in this game and b) don't appear to be bad to the x-men anyway, then yeah... I think you're bad-or at least less likely to be civvie.
I'm not going to act like I know what goes on in avalanches head or why he acts as he does.
Mojo wrote:Yeah because he was saying "guys please don't lynch me," well.... If you ignore questions and have a focus on something (morlocks) that a) doesn't appear to be something we even have to worry about in this game and b) don't appear to be bad to the x-men anyway, then yeah... I think you're bad-or at least less likely to be civvie.
I'm not going to act like I know what goes on in avalanches head or why he acts as he does.
Okay, I didn't realize it was in response to that. As for your points, I am not sure a baddie would risk that behavior (I feel it's suicidal), but I have seen it done before. Time will tell.
Havok, I'd like to hear from you about this post. Are you unaware of the poll thread, or did you have a different reason for asking this? Considering what such info might have helped reveal, if Epig had answered yes, it feels like the question isn't very civ friendly...
White Queen wrote:I am not ignoring facts. You made a number of contradictory and weak statements.
So, will you be going with Deathlok, or with Rasputin? Or perhaps Avalanche?
I am not harping on you, I am stirring the pot, as it were. I am asking questions, and assessing answers. This is how I play Mafia. This kind of sounds like Avalanches post where he asks why, basically, I am picking on him.
I went with Deathlok. Again you are overlooking facts when it comes to me. I haven't made any cotradicotrynposts. I made loose connections tht I admitted should have been more spelled out big time. Yet somehow that is now "contradictory".
LOL, it isn't somehow now contradictory. It was contradictory when you said it. But please note subsequent posts; I said I thought you actually sounded sincere.
White Queen, I have asked you multiple times now, what about my posts is contradictory?
Also, Havok went after Polaris during the night in what seems like a "set up tomorrow s lynch" feeling way. Havok, you're on my watchlist, homie. But I'm not going to put on blinders, I await your thoughts on these posts .
Havok, I'd like to hear from you about this post. Are you unaware of the poll thread, or did you have a different reason for asking this? Considering what such info might have helped reveal, if Epig had answered yes, it feels like the question isn't very civ friendly...
Catching up that definitely stands out to me also. The vote was clearly posted in the polls and Deathlok had the majority. So either Havok expected a different outcome because he/she knows something, or some type of manipulation Havok may have done to the votes didn't turn out as expected is my thought.
I'm looking at Havok or Polaris so far today...
Havok, I'd like to hear from you about this post. Are you unaware of the poll thread, or did you have a different reason for asking this? Considering what such info might have helped reveal, if Epig had answered yes, it feels like the question isn't very civ friendly...
Catching up that definitely stands out to me also. The vote was clearly posted in the polls and Deathlok had the majority. So either Havok expected a different outcome because he/she knows something, or some type of manipulation Havok may have done to the votes didn't turn out as expected is my thought.
I'm looking at Havok or Polaris so far today...
Isn't part of the reason you suspect Havok for "setting up" Polaris?
Catching up that definitely stands out to me also. The vote was clearly posted in the polls and Deathlok had the majority. So either Havok expected a different outcome because he/she knows something, or some type of manipulation Havok may have done to the votes didn't turn out as expected is my thought.
I'm looking at Havok or Polaris so far today...
Havok, I'd like to hear from you about this post. Are you unaware of the poll thread, or did you have a different reason for asking this? Considering what such info might have helped reveal, if Epig had answered yes, it feels like the question isn't very civ friendly...
Catching up that definitely stands out to me also. The vote was clearly posted in the polls and Deathlok had the majority. So either Havok expected a different outcome because he/she knows something, or some type of manipulation Havok may have done to the votes didn't turn out as expected is my thought.
I'm looking at Havok or Polaris so far today...
Isn't part of the reason you suspect Havok for "setting up" Polaris?
I do think he wants to get Polaris eyed, which Polaris should be for the ingenuity... But I feel one here being Bad, and the other Indy IMO. Which like I said, I feel I need to vote one of them out today.
Quicksilver, just to clarify your post what do you mean by Polaris's ingenuity? I saw the post about not caring that she didn't vote but where does the ingenuity come in? Also, what are you seeing that makes one of them a possible indy?
Longshot wrote:Quicksilver, just to clarify your post what do you mean by Polaris's ingenuity? I saw the post about not caring that she didn't vote but where does the ingenuity come in? Also, what are you seeing that makes one of them a possible indy?
Polaris "not caring" about missing the vote because he/she didn't have anyone to vote for. I know Indy characters have their own agendas, but to me if someone were Civ, they would be trying to help because every vote counts. If they were bad, they would vote to help make sure one of their teammates stayed alive and get someone Civ out. But, if they were Indy, it could go either way. So I think either Polaris is bad where neither of his/her teammates were on the line to die, so they cared less. OR, Polaris may be an Indy and cared less because someone would die that wouldn't help their cause. Just how I'm feeling here. Professor X urged us to step up and work together, so I'm trying to think things out this time and be more confident in who I vote for to get us back on our A game.
I hesitate to call someone suspicious when they say something like Polaris did on Day 1. Day 4, absolutely, but Day 1 there are always going to be players who refuse to randomize and who refuse to throw away a vote. Polaris' original post about it certainly has a certain aloofness to it, but it feels too obvious. Like, wouldn't Apocalypse or the Sentinels or a baddie just try to blend in? It wouldn't have been hard at all to type a two line thing saying you "agree about Avalanche" or "yeah I see the thing about Deathlok" or whatever.
Voting someone for an aloof post, based on the theory that someone with an aloof role would signal it to us so obviously just feels like a reach, personally.
Who hasn't posted yet? We've got a silencer in the game, it would be nice to get everyone to chime in and roll call if they haven't posted yet today so we can at least figure out who is shut down.
Havok, I'd like to hear from you about this post. Are you unaware of the poll thread, or did you have a different reason for asking this? Considering what such info might have helped reveal, if Epig had answered yes, it feels like the question isn't very civ friendly...
Yes, I am very aware of the poll thread. I asked because....
Epignosis wrote:
X-Men Mafia
Whereas Masters of the Universe took us all over a planet, X-Men will keep us...in one room.
Expect heavy manipulation.
How can you say that that question isn't civvie friendly? It sounds like you are saying that it could have only been a tie for civvie reasons? You should look over the role list. Wolverine is not the only role with vote manipulation.
Catching up that definitely stands out to me also. The vote was clearly posted in the polls and Deathlok had the majority. So either Havok expected a different outcome because he/she knows something, or some type of manipulation Havok may have done to the votes didn't turn out as expected is my thought.
I'm looking at Havok or Polaris so far today...
Boy, you just jumped right on there, didn't ya?
lol, yes, he did.
I'm not trying to "set up" Polaris to get lynched. I'm voicing my opinions on the game. I am suspicious of Polaris. I'm not trying to hide that.
The Vision wrote:Who hasn't posted yet? We've got a silencer in the game, it would be nice to get everyone to chime in and roll call if they haven't posted yet today so we can at least figure out who is shut down.
We've actually got two silencers in the game - Iceman and Toad, one bad one good. I totally agree with your idea that people chime in today so we will know who is silenced - should be 2 if both Ice and Toad got their pm's in.
Havok wrote:
How can you say that that question isn't civvie friendly? It sounds like you are saying that it could have only been a tie for civvie reasons? You should look over the role list. Wolverine is not the only role with vote manipulation.
The way I look at it is that it was Day 1. No night actions had yet occurred. The only two roles, barring secrets, that have naturally occurring vote weirdness are Wolverine and Cyclops. So with no Magneto or Sentinel or Omega Red manipulations in play since it was Day 1, your question seemed engineered to potentially reveal a shortlist of who could be one of our most important roles. That is absolutely not a civ-friendly question to have asked.
Any other Day, yeah go for it, there will be a ton of vote weirdness. But not yesterday…