The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:45 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:36 am
It's obvious, come on. Several reasons. First of all, he really has no choice at this point since it's his last chance to appear town and convince us that he's his normal supertown self by doing ISOs and scumhunting. Of course he's doing this now. Second, if he's scum I would bet that he is using some sort of wifom trickery/manipulating his ISOs so that when he flips bad we'll be thrown off by his "reads" and not know which ones were real -- so he might be bussing teammates, or defending them, or otherwise completely throwing us off the trail in providing these reads.

@JaggedJimmyJay how are you deciding who to ISO? So far you've done bob, wilgy, malakim, and speedchuck. Those seem kind of random. What is your reasoning for choosing them?

They are players that I wanted a developed, thorough read on and that I felt the thread needed more analytic content for. malakim is mostly the product of Dom's replacement though -- it's an opportunity to do something with a previously empty slot instead of just make flier reads on a whim.

I've tried to explain why I've played this game the way I have. I know I don't look like the generic civilian JJJ looks. What I don't understand is why there'd be a perception that I am trying to look that way.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:46 am**

So I guess what we're looking at is another almost 3 way tie

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:47 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:43 am Now that you mention it it seems strange he's not focusing on people who could viably be lynched today.

There are two hours remaining. Nearly anyone can viably be lynched today. Given the freedom and total control, who would you lynch right now?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:48 am**

I wouldn't lynch malakim today.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:49 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:48 am I wouldn't lynch malakim today.

neither would i.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:51 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:49 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:48 am I wouldn't lynch malakim today.
neither would i.

Immediate thoughts on what I said about speedchuck?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:52 am**

Also, I'm gonna definitively say that I do not buy into the theory that jay or dom was saved yesterday. I think mesk was a bad lynch, but I don't think she was lynched out of a deliberate effort to save anybody. There were no strong candidates anywhere. The thread was loaded with uncertainty and any vote would have been a blind shrug. Mesk just happened to be the final candidate named, so she got the votes. And, like I said earlier, I was ultimately the reason she was lynched instead of Jay. I don't think this is a good argument to use against either jay or malakim.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:52 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:41 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:29 am speedchuck stuff
TMI Alert. My initial reception of speedchuck's handling of LC/Epi was a positive one, but I disagree with myself now.

In a scenario where both Epi and LC are civilians, speedchuck has exonerated one and defended the other based on what I perceive to be pretty dubious premises. High-roading both of them, by essentially suggesting both were being dumb instead of being suspicious, may be suggestive of unique information in speedchuck's possession -- information which could only come from a mafia alignment at this point in the game.
Exactly how I feel about that.

Is this the core of your own speedchuck suspicion or is there more?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:53 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:18 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:17 pm Hm that's odd
What's odd?

DDL moving to JJJ.
That's like the opposite of what he was reading at the time right?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:53 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:51 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:49 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:48 am I wouldn't lynch malakim today.
neither would i.
Immediate thoughts on what I said about speedchuck?

haven't read it yet and i'm about to step away for a half hour or so. i'll respond when i return.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:54 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:01 pm Moved my vote to speedchuck

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:55 am**

WAIT SHIT I'M IN THE LEAD HOW

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:55 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:52 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:41 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:29 am speedchuck stuff
TMI Alert. My initial reception of speedchuck's handling of LC/Epi was a positive one, but I disagree with myself now.

In a scenario where both Epi and LC are civilians, speedchuck has exonerated one and defended the other based on what I perceive to be pretty dubious premises. High-roading both of them, by essentially suggesting both were being dumb instead of being suspicious, may be suggestive of unique information in speedchuck's possession -- information which could only come from a mafia alignment at this point in the game.
Exactly how I feel about that.
Is this the core of your own speedchuck suspicion or is there more?

I believe this is the kernel, but I know I have seen more that made me say "hmmm" about him, keeping him in my Top 3.

Linki: Oh yeah I voted speedchuck

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:56 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:54 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:01 pm Moved my vote to speedchuck

what was the best thing i said about colonialbob?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:56 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:53 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:18 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:17 pm Hm that's odd
What's odd?
DDL moving to JJJ.
That's like the opposite of what he was reading at the time right?

I read his jockeying over his read on me to be genuine.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:59 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:56 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:54 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:01 pm Moved my vote to speedchuck

what was the best thing i said about colonialbob?

If I remembered that you wouldn't be lynching me. Lazy lack-of-time-to-dig play is not mafia play. It would be scummy if I was trying to push a Cbob lynch right now. I'm not. Catching up

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:00 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:47 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:43 am Now that you mention it it seems strange he's not focusing on people who could viably be lynched today.
There are two hours remaining. Nearly anyone can viably be lynched today. Given the freedom and total control, who would you lynch right now?

cbob or speedchuck or maybe DDL

you've got the most votes right now and I trust about half of your voters but I've felt sincerity in your posts and actions but Nutella is right that maybe that really actually your goal, did you respond to nutella's post about that?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:01 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:11 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:08 am Jack, having just stolen my ship and marooned me on a desert island with speedchuck as your partner, what is your opinion of him in this game?
Bad.

There's no smoking gun like him shooting Wilgy and then no lynch last game but he feels way too passive. More like Pirates Speed than any other version of Speed.

Agreed. That is my current play because this game is so friggin meaty. You'll find out that it's not alignment indicative in about 2 hours at this rate.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:02 am**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:23 am speedchuck

This. This is the worst thing about Cbob right now. (I'm kidding, this is not an OMGUS, don't shoot me)

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:03 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:00 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:47 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:43 am Now that you mention it it seems strange he's not focusing on people who could viably be lynched today.
There are two hours remaining. Nearly anyone can viably be lynched today. Given the freedom and total control, who would you lynch right now?
cbob or speedchuck or maybe DDL

you've got the most votes right now and I trust about half of your voters but I've felt sincerity in your posts and actions but Nutella is right that maybe that really actually your goal, did you respond to nutella's post about that?

Yeah

Talk to me about your suspicion of DDL.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:04 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:00 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:47 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:43 am Now that you mention it it seems strange he's not focusing on people who could viably be lynched today.
There are two hours remaining. Nearly anyone can viably be lynched today. Given the freedom and total control, who would you lynch right now?
cbob or speedchuck or maybe DDL

you've got the most votes right now and I trust about half of your voters but I've felt sincerity in your posts and actions but Nutella is right that maybe that really actually your goal, did you respond to nutella's post about that?

what even is this post

Why do you lynch me or speedchuck or maybe ddl?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:05 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:41 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:29 am speedchuck stuff
TMI Alert. My initial reception of speedchuck's handling of LC/Epi was a positive one, but I disagree with myself now.

In a scenario where both Epi and LC are civilians, speedchuck has exonerated one and defended the other based on what I perceive to be pretty dubious premises. High-roading both of them, by essentially suggesting both were being dumb instead of being suspicious, may be suggestive of unique information in speedchuck's possession -- information which could only come from a mafia alignment at this point in the game.
Exactly how I feel about that.

IDK. This is pretty much par for the course for Epi and LC. If it were any other two players, nah.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:06 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:52 am Also, I'm gonna definitively say that I do not buy into the theory that jay or dom was saved yesterday. I think mesk was a bad lynch, but I don't think she was lynched out of a deliberate effort to save anybody. There were no strong candidates anywhere. The thread was loaded with uncertainty and any vote would have been a blind shrug. Mesk just happened to be the final candidate named, so she got the votes. And, like I said earlier, I was ultimately the reason she was lynched instead of Jay. I don't think this is a good argument to use against either jay or malakim.

Thank you.

I'm also considering the idea that we syndicate players are overfond of sticking CFDs up our own butt without any prodding.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:07 am**

JJJ's readthing on me was really good. You guys should read it.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:08 am**

Too sleepy, I was up till after 3am last night recarpeting stairs. Wilgy, JJJ, speedchuck.... my top suspect is speed, so consider my vote permanent. Good night!

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:09 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:03 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:00 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:47 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:43 am Now that you mention it it seems strange he's not focusing on people who could viably be lynched today.
There are two hours remaining. Nearly anyone can viably be lynched today. Given the freedom and total control, who would you lynch right now?
cbob or speedchuck or maybe DDL

you've got the most votes right now and I trust about half of your voters but I've felt sincerity in your posts and actions but Nutella is right that maybe that really actually your goal, did you respond to nutella's post about that?
Yeah

Talk to me about your suspicion of DDL.

He's just on the list of players who've never pinged me as good.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:10 am**

Moved my vote to Wilgy.

JJJ basically stated that his playstyle is different this game, partly for the same reason as mine. I buy that. I buy it hard.

Wilgy hasn't pinged me, but I agree that I haven't read anything strong from him.

Basically, I'm freaking clueless, which should be as strong an indicator as any that I'm town dammit.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:11 am**

Took a final look at vote tally. Epignosis is here. Hasn't weighed in or voted yet. Planning to vote late to have the most control over the lynch?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:13 am**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:48 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:56 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:55 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:49 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:45 pm malakim2099 would you please do me a solid and describe your past mafia experience, to whatever extent you're comfortable with?
I suggest you take a look at the street fighter game: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... alakim2099
He was scum here.
Your link is broken. You accidentally mentioned yourself while typing it.

Also the forum is trying to force me to mention you too. It has had this kind of bug for weeks now. Spacedaisy
When ever you try to quote a post that has an @mention in it, you have to delete the @mention to avoid that problem. Otherwise it sees the original @mention and gets confused.
Why is this not in red

Because I was responding as a Tech mod, not as a former player and because it was OT.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:14 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:26 pm and with that drwilgy has become a 10 year old boy

Rude. Pokémon is awesome.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:15 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:14 am
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:26 pm and with that drwilgy has become a 10 year old boy
Rude. Pokémon is awesome.

I'm playing through yellow right now, my first pokemon game ever.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:16 am**

Switched to Speed.

Why are all my suspects not named Wilgy voting for Wilgy?

Staying far away from that lynch.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:18 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:10 am Moved my vote to Wilgy.

JJJ basically stated that his playstyle is different this game, partly for the same reason as mine. I buy that. I buy it hard.

Wilgy hasn't pinged me, but I agree that I haven't read anything strong from him.

Basically, I'm freaking clueless, which should be as strong an indicator as any that I'm town dammit.

There's that second thing bad Speed does. Bad lynch choices.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:19 am**

You guys and your stupid end of day fire drills. I might have defended myself and made some content if I were here, or if this had happened earlier in the day. 4 hours ago I was less suspected than half the playerbase. Now suddenly I'm a unanimous lynch.

linki: I don't even know what you mean, but I'm insulted jack. My mafia lynch choices are way better than my town lynch choices. Or at least, more certain.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:20 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:10 am Moved my vote to Wilgy.

JJJ basically stated that his playstyle is different this game, partly for the same reason as mine. I buy that. I buy it hard.

Wilgy hasn't pinged me, but I agree that I haven't read anything strong from him.

Basically, I'm freaking clueless, which should be as strong an indicator as any that I'm town dammit.

This part looks bad, too.

"Please excuse my lousy vote. I'm clueless."

Like he couldn't do maths and went no lynch on the wrong day in Pirates. (Spoiler: He was bad. He's bad here too.)

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:21 am**

did someone say chinese fire drill?

*vote elohcin*

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:21 am**

Lol Sloonei what are you doing?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:22 am**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:04 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:00 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:47 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:43 am Now that you mention it it seems strange he's not focusing on people who could viably be lynched today.
There are two hours remaining. Nearly anyone can viably be lynched today. Given the freedom and total control, who would you lynch right now?
cbob or speedchuck or maybe DDL

you've got the most votes right now and I trust about half of your voters but I've felt sincerity in your posts and actions but Nutella is right that maybe that really actually your goal, did you respond to nutella's post about that?
what even is this post

Why do you lynch me or speedchuck or maybe ddl?

Sloonei's case on you was pretty good and nothing significant has happened since then to change my opinion. Also I don't remember who but someone mentioned speedchucks gameplay being similar to in Pirate game and I can kind of see it.

Shit dude i guess I'm really relying on other people's thoughts and opinions a lot, huh?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:23 am**

Welp. In view of my legacy, I'll have you know that this is the strongest town game I can handle when there are 3k posts and 93% of the game is still alive.

linki: did somebody say CFD?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:23 am**

Oh wait no sloonei moved I'm staying here.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:24 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:16 am Switched to Speed.

Why are all my suspects not named Wilgy voting for Wilgy?

Staying far away from that lynch.

Well, I'm voting for him because I didn't like his logic in voting for me. It struck me as lazy piggybacking without real conviction.

I'm just not entirely certain about speedchuck as a lynch candidate.

(But then, when aren't I on your suspect list? Oh, wait, colors. That's right.)

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:27 am**

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:24 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:16 am Switched to Speed.

Why are all my suspects not named Wilgy voting for Wilgy?

Staying far away from that lynch.
Well, I'm voting for him because I didn't like his logic in voting for me. It struck me as lazy piggybacking without real conviction.

I'm just not entirely certain about speedchuck as a lynch candidate.

(But then, when aren't I on your suspect list? Oh, wait, colors. That's right.)

This supposed to convince me you aren't bad with Speed and Jimmy?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:30 am**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:13 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:48 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:56 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:55 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:49 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:45 pm malakim2099 would you please do me a solid and describe your past mafia experience, to whatever extent you're comfortable with?
I suggest you take a look at the street fighter game: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... alakim2099
He was scum here.
Your link is broken. You accidentally mentioned yourself while typing it.

Also the forum is trying to force me to mention you too. It has had this kind of bug for weeks now. Spacedaisy
When ever you try to quote a post that has an @mention in it, you have to delete the @mention to avoid that problem. Otherwise it sees the original @mention and gets confused.
Why is this not in red
Because I was responding as a Tech mod, not as a former player and because it was OT.

I know I was joking. Poorly, it seems.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:31 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:52 am Also, I'm gonna definitively say that I do not buy into the theory that jay or dom was saved yesterday. I think mesk was a bad lynch, but I don't think she was lynched out of a deliberate effort to save anybody. There were no strong candidates anywhere. The thread was loaded with uncertainty and any vote would have been a blind shrug. Mesk just happened to be the final candidate named, so she got the votes. And, like I said earlier, I was ultimately the reason she was lynched instead of Jay. I don't think this is a good argument to use against either jay or malakim.

This is crap.

There was no more reason to lynch Melk than Dom. Yet lots of people were really invested in lynching Melk.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I'm betting it's a duck.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:33 am**

How does Sloonei of all people say we "just happened" to lynch Melk.

How is that even a serious post from him?

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:33 am**

CFD. For the fourth night in a row. No thanks I'll stick with speed.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:35 am**

Time to ISO Wilgy and Speed one last time while listening to Sonic Hedghong arrangements on piano

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:36 am**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:33 am CFD. For the fourth night in a row. No thanks I'll stick with speed.

I am the CFD. Original was JJJ.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:37 am**

If any of Jimmy, Mal, Speed are bad, I'm not voting away from the other two.

Suddenly leaning towards Sloonei or Quin as potential last baddie.

We'll see.

Posted: **Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:38 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:36 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:33 am CFD. For the fourth night in a row. No thanks I'll stick with speed.
I am the CFD. Original was JJJ.

Wilgy is the CFD.

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