The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:59 pm**

Oh what is the character I can shoot?
I'm not telling you.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:59 pm**

ok i get my confusion and i don't know why speedchuck would choose to selectively bus only turnip head so hard. there would seem to be a lack of team cohesion since epi and turnip head chose to vote together

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:00 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:56 pm If your dead your role is known.

And if you're civilian the game is over.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:00 pm**

But maybe it's thematic so you can look it up

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:00 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:56 pm If your dead your role is known.
And if you're civilian the game is over.

If I'm scum and my character weren't on my team they would have been shot night 1.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:03 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:56 pm If your dead your role is known.
And if you're civilian the game is over.
If I'm scum and my character weren't on my team they would have been shot night 1.

this is fair but i still don't trust that you're being honest with your role

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:03 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:56 pm If your dead your role is known.
And if you're civilian the game is over.
If I'm scum and my character weren't on my team they would have been shot night 1.

I'm going to need you to restate that, and then tell me why.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:06 pm**

@Jay
I can choose to kill a certain character on any odd night. If I'm scum, I look at the role cards at my team and then I either get more favorable numbers night 1 or I don't vig my mafia teammate. And I definitely wouldn't care about who I was killing.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:06 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:59 pm ok i get my confusion and i don't know why speedchuck would choose to selectively bus only turnip head so hard. there would seem to be a lack of team cohesion since epi and turnip head chose to vote together

that would be the point, i think. speed is singular, unattached.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:07 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:06 pm @Jay
I can choose to kill a certain character on any odd night. If I'm scum, I look at the role cards at my team and then I either get more favorable numbers night 1 or I don't vig my mafia teammate. And I definitely wouldn't care about who I was killing.

Do you have any abilities that don't involve killing this dude?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:08 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:06 pm @Jay
I can choose to kill a certain character on any odd night. If I'm scum, I look at the role cards at my team and then I either get more favorable numbers night 1 or I don't vig my mafia teammate. And I definitely wouldn't care about who I was killing.
Do you have any abilities that don't involve killing this dude?

Yes. They are unimportant.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:09 pm**

Might Tony be telling the truth?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:11 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:06 pm @Jay
I can choose to kill a certain character on any odd night. If I'm scum, I look at the role cards at my team and then I either get more favorable numbers night 1 or I don't vig my mafia teammate. And I definitely wouldn't care about who I was killing.

Is there a reason why you wouldn't want to just broadcast the name of the character(s) you can kill publicly and see who does what with it?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:12 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:09 pm Might Tony be telling the truth?

If he is then Long Con is mafia and the game is over.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:13 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:09 pm Might Tony be telling the truth?
If he is then Long Con is mafia and the game is over.

explain

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:15 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:13 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:09 pm Might Tony be telling the truth?
If he is then Long Con is mafia and the game is over.
explain

POE

Not Sloonei
Not Funnygurl
Not ts account*
~Not Tony~

Those are the civilians.

*Open to counterarguments still. At face value I think he looks leagues better than Long Con.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:17 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:13 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:09 pm Might Tony be telling the truth?
If he is then Long Con is mafia and the game is over.
explain

why is funnygurl still in your poe?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:17 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:15 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:13 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:09 pm Might Tony be telling the truth?
If he is then Long Con is mafia and the game is over.
explain
POE

Not Sloonei
Not Funnygurl
Not ts account*
~Not Tony~

Those are the civilians.

*Open to counterarguments still. At face value I think he looks leagues better than Long Con.

Why not ts account?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:17 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:06 pm @Jay
I can choose to kill a certain character on any odd night. If I'm scum, I look at the role cards at my team and then I either get more favorable numbers night 1 or I don't vig my mafia teammate. And I definitely wouldn't care about who I was killing.
Is there a reason why you wouldn't want to just broadcast the name of the character(s) you can kill publicly and see who does what with it?

I thought about this. At this point it might be optimal to do so, but I've been trying to maximize the chance that the power can go off successfully. at this point I suppose that mafia will for sure be fake claiming so there's probably no point in withholding it. Let me think on it for a few minutes.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:18 pm**

Tony, who did you kill Night 1?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:19 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:13 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:09 pm Might Tony be telling the truth?
If he is then Long Con is mafia and the game is over.
explain
why is funnygurl still in your poe?

JJJ's post says that if its not me then it's long con. I don't think it's Long Con. Therefore, it must be someone else. I think funnygurl has been wholly unbelievable.

I'm willing to accept that it's Long Con in place of Speed. I might be wrong and it's both of them. Unsure.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:20 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:18 pm Tony, who did you kill Night 1?

I have 1 character.
They are not dead yet. Therefore I have killed no one.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:21 pm**

If I had multiple possible targets, I would have floated one as a read and then tried to sneak in a kill on an unsuspecting mafia who freely claims the other.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:21 pm**

If I had multiple possible targets, I would have floated one as a read and then tried to sneak in a kill on an unsuspecting mafia who freely claims the other.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:21 pm**

If I had multiple possible targets, I would have floated one as a read and then tried to sneak in a kill on an unsuspecting mafia who freely claims the other.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:21 pm**

If I had multiple possible targets, I would have floated one as a read and then tried to sneak in a kill on an unsuspecting mafia who freely claims the other.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:21 pm**

okay that's just absurd ebwop remove three of those

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:21 pm**

The makeup of Tony's role, as it is described, seems wack.

Suppose a civilian gets this role. "You can kill Karen The Assassin's Creed Character on an odd night".

If Karen is a civilian, then than role is explicitly crippled. It has no purpose but to ruin the civilians; it is bastardized.

If Karen is a mafioso, then it's just a free kill without requiring any investigative work? Eh?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:22 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:13 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:09 pm Might Tony be telling the truth?
If he is then Long Con is mafia and the game is over.
explain
why is funnygurl still in your poe?
JJJ's post says that if its not me then it's long con. I don't think it's Long Con. Therefore, it must be someone else. I think funnygurl has been wholly unbelievable.

I'm willing to accept that it's Long Con in place of Speed. I might be wrong and it's both of them. Unsure.

Why can't it be long con? Why isn't ts account named in this post?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:22 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:20 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:18 pm Tony, who did you kill Night 1?
I have 1 character.
They are not dead yet. Therefore I have killed no one.

Maybe I do not understand how your role works. You have a given character name and you have the ability to kill them whenever?
What is the character name?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:22 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:21 pm The makeup of Tony's role, as it is described, seems wack.

Suppose a civilian gets this role. "You can kill Karen The Assassin's Creed Character on an odd night".

If Karen is a civilian, then than role is explicitly crippled. It has no purpose but to ruin the civilians; it is bastardized.

If Karen is a mafioso, then it's just a free kill without requiring any investigative work? Eh?

yep that's it I think it's kinda cool actually

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:23 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:22 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:20 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:18 pm Tony, who did you kill Night 1?
I have 1 character.
They are not dead yet. Therefore I have killed no one.
Maybe I do not understand how your role works. You have a given character name and you have the ability to kill them whenever?
What is the character name?

See JJJ's post for how it works. Not revealing the name because I have time and want to think through all possibilities.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:23 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:22 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:13 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:09 pm Might Tony be telling the truth?
If he is then Long Con is mafia and the game is over.
explain
why is funnygurl still in your poe?
JJJ's post says that if its not me then it's long con. I don't think it's Long Con. Therefore, it must be someone else. I think funnygurl has been wholly unbelievable.

I'm willing to accept that it's Long Con in place of Speed. I might be wrong and it's both of them. Unsure.
Why can't it be long con? Why isn't ts account named in this post?

I don't think it's lc and speed. I have an unhealthy amount of trust in life man.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:25 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:23 pm See JJJ's post for how it works. Not revealing the name because I have time and want to think through all possibilities.

I believe you should share the name you have.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:25 pm**

"I have an unhealthy amount of trust in life" seems odd coming from the guy who suspects the player with the most verifiable claim in the game right now.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:25 pm**

"I'm going to give you an explicitly crippled role that can only kill a civilian in a game that opened at 9 vs. 4."

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:25 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:25 pm "I have an unhealthy amount of trust in life" seems odd coming from the guy who suspects the player with the most verifiable claim in the game right now.

in Mikey

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:26 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:25 pm "I'm going to give you an explicitly crippled role that can only kill a civilian in a game that opened at 9 vs. 4."

yeah I have balance questions as well.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:27 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:17 pm Why not ts account?

My words convey greater confidence than I truly boast. I don't really think he looks like a mafioso though. I'm sure he's a quality player and is capable of doing big evil things, so who knows.

My brain just keeps going back to Long Con's L-1 vote, the big dramatic STOP!!!, and the fact that there are three clear names emerging for people who are not guiding the hunt at at all today:

Epignosis
speedchuck
Long Con

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:29 pm**

It is better for you to out the character name you are able to kill, then have everybody claim "Not this character" if we decide you are town.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:30 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:21 pm okay that's just absurd ebwop remove three of those

i lol'd

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:31 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:25 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:23 pm See JJJ's post for how it works. Not revealing the name because I have time and want to think through all possibilities.
I believe you should share the name you have.

To be honest I shared my character name and this is clearly a direct story thing so anyone who cared could have a really good idea. Desmond.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:31 pm**

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] to be clear:

Do you simply affirm that "yes, tonight I want to kill Karen"

Or do you have to name a player and hope that the player happens to be Karen?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:31 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:06 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:59 pm ok i get my confusion and i don't know why speedchuck would choose to selectively bus only turnip head so hard. there would seem to be a lack of team cohesion since epi and turnip head chose to vote together
that would be the point, i think. speed is singular, unattached.

but i don't see how that would point to his alignment still, so i think i came across a moot point @.@

idk how speed plays normally so

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:33 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:17 pm Why not ts account?
My words convey greater confidence than I truly boast. I don't really think he looks like a mafioso though. I'm sure he's a quality player and is capable of doing big evil things, so who knows.

My brain just keeps going back to Long Con's L-1 vote, the big dramatic STOP!!!, and the fact that there are three clear names emerging for people who are not guiding the hunt at at all today:

Epignosis
speedchuck
Long Con

spicy

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:33 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:31 pm @TonyStarkPrime to be clear:

Do you simply affirm that "yes, tonight I want to kill Karen"

Or do you have to name a player and hope that the player happens to be Karen?

The former

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:33 pm**

Deeeesmond the Moon Bear.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:34 pm**

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] are you only able to kill one person? or are you given a name to kill, and if they die/you kill them, you get another name?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:34 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:25 pm "I have an unhealthy amount of trust in life" seems odd coming from the guy who suspects the player with the most verifiable claim in the game right now.
in Mikey

lol

why?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:34 pm**

Note that, if Desmond is town, wolves achieve parity.

The Syndicate

Assassin's Creed Mafia (OVER!)

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