The Syndicate

Roxy wrote:Epi - you would have been ballsy enough to tip your hand and then use wifom for defense. You are a role checker or the role checker is on your team.
And why wouldn't they have checked Made or Enrique since both have been topic for discussion for some time now. That way they would know how to play it. You decided for a balls to the wall approach - which is pure Epi.

Damned if I do, damned if I don't. I get it. But I didn't use "WIFOM." I used math and then I asked which scenario was more likely. You didn't answer my question. And I didn't expect you to. And you voted for Made and found a flimsy excuse to do it.

You're afraid of me. As you well should be.

zeek wrote:Epig, could election say you're not a robot for the lie detector.

No problem.

I've had one opportunity (literally one) to lie detect a statement, and I know how difficult it is to find a checkable statement. I am not a role checker, nor am I on a team with a role checker. That is a complete sentence that should be okay to be checked.

Voted Rexel 4.

If I die tonight, please consider my thoughts on MP and Dana. I believe they could both be Made's teamies.

That...was an interesting lynch. I'm still not sure how or why people seemed so worried about it during the lynch period itself, like they knew it would turn out like that (I know I didn't see it coming, but then again, I haven't had the time/energy/small enough group to stay in the thread to speculate like I could for Clue. Ah, Clue, how I miss you). Of course, the result is concerning, but it certainly doesn't change my mind about Made. I don't buy his argument, and I'm inclined, like many others, to believe that a Civ wouldn't vote for himself/herself in the manner that Made did.

For the record, and at the risk of making MP more mad (sorry, MP! Anger is not my goal here), but I agree that you've been all over the place this game, and it would be very convenient for you to be able to go back and retract any sour vote for a Civ by going back to a random speculation made in the game. I've tried to follow you, but you haven't been consistent, and that makes me feel iffy about you now.

Damn all of you voting way before me and making me the tail end (I'd vote earlier in the day, but my work computer has a Russian porn virus that likes to pop up when I'm on any other site but Google. Two weeks and counting waiting for the tech people to fix that shit). Anyway, I don't care if I'm the tail end - I'm voting Rexel 4 because I'm teaching Macbeth and my kids just did research on witchcraft today (and, subsequently, a student's phone decided to vibrate uncontrollably for no reason after he learned about the Macbeth--I mean, Scottish Play curse). Got witchcraft on the mind, love the Shakespeare Code, and as several people have pointed out, it has no clear connection to any baddie team that we know of.

There. Now, to finish assembling this apple tart.

Turnip Head wrote:Voted Rexel 4.

If I die tonight, please consider my thoughts on MP and Dana. I believe they could both be Made's teamies.

If they all turn out to be bad, my first 3 days performance will be worthy of the Hall of Shame.

I have decoded most of the civ roles. Some only sabulous gist.

Nothing about stopping lynches. And not a single capote.

Not one capote?

SHIT!

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sigh. I am not trying to convince anyone Made is civvie, I just was pointing out all the possibilities.

Enri is definitely bad now, saying I am bad after defending me all game?

You know I just don't have the time to deal with this before my midterm on wednesday. I tell you what, guys, just lynch me tomorrow. I'm tired of dealing with these baseless accusations. Lynch me and then promise you will lynch Enri afterwards. I'm so sick of this.

You weren't trying to convince anyone that Made is civilian, but you asked why no one was considering he was civvie?

MovingPictures07 wrote:You're so fucking bad Enri. I don't care. I give up at this point. Real life is taking priority for me. My lynch will help the civvies in the long run by providing information. Just get it over with. I will even vote myself at this point.

Voting Rexel 4 because I do not like the idea of the others all having baddie connections. Sure, there are witches there but we also have the Doctor, he wouldn't let us die, right?

Anything else, Dana? What do you think went down on Day 4? What do you have to say to the suggestion that you're Made and MP's teammate?

This MP being Made's teammate shit is such crap. I can't wait for it to fall apart and for Enrique especially to be shown for the liar he is this game, flipping on me as blatantly as he has.

Seriously lynch me tomorrow. At this point, I seriously believe it will benefit the civvies more than anyone.

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sigh. I am not trying to convince anyone Made is civvie, I just was pointing out all the possibilities.

Enri is definitely bad now, saying I am bad after defending me all game?

You know I just don't have the time to deal with this before my midterm on wednesday. I tell you what, guys, just lynch me tomorrow. I'm tired of dealing with these baseless accusations. Lynch me and then promise you will lynch Enri afterwards. I'm so sick of this.

You weren't trying to convince anyone that Made is civilian, but you asked why no one was considering he was civvie?

MovingPictures07 wrote:You're so fucking bad Enri. I don't care. I give up at this point. Real life is taking priority for me. My lynch will help the civvies in the long run by providing information. Just get it over with. I will even vote myself at this point.

No, I wasn't. I was trying to convince people that there appeared to be three legitimate possibilities for Made's behavior, even if I thought one of them was most likely (the Dalek one).

I'm sorry, I realize I may come across as incredibly frustrated, but it's probably because I am frustrated as hell right now. I am completely stressed out because of my PhD workload this week, which includes plenty of GRA assignments, a 15+ page research paper, two midterm exams, seemingly never-ending quantitative economics homework, and 30+ hours of empirical accounting research to read.

Not to mention the fact that I'm being suspected heavily for supposed connections to Made which are absolutely untrue and I just don't have the time or the motivation to defend against anymore. I've been practically defending myself constantly all game AGAIN, as it happens practically every full game I play.

All the more reason I say just lynch me and get it over with so I can focus on real life, which is more important, as amazing as this game is, and finally stop talking about me being bad because it's not true. Just promise me you'll lynch Enrique after me, please and thank you.

In case I die tonight, which I don't think is likely, but still wanna be prepared for the worst. Keep in mind how MP and Made's last second votes created a wide margin between us, a wide enough margin that I wouldn't get automatically lynched and Made wouldn't immediately be outed as bad.

Seconds before the poll ended, it was 12-11 to Made. If we tied, a coin flipped, and I got lynched, Made would have been outed. MP needed to change his vote so that wouldn't happen, or maybe he was afraid of somebody coming in last second and tying up the poll. Them both voting at the last second makes it look like poor coordination: MP would have been freaking out the deadline was there and Made hadn't voted, or vice-versa.

This fits perfectly with MP's last second vote to save Made in Day 3. I honestly never thought the Snow Dog case was a save, but I'm beginning to have doubts about MP and Dana (not to mention MM's dodgy behavior), and it just happens to fit in perfectly with the events of Day 4.

MP thinks that because I've turned on him "I'm bad as fuck," but put yourself in my position. I haven't been defending MP and Dana all game because I had any sort of info, but because I found myself agreeing with their points a lot and found myself in similar positions. But that doesn't mean shit. I'm being played and set up for a lynch. The Monty Python endgame (which I obviously can't talk about in detail) also has me wondering about my propensity to trust in players that I can agree with. I've been a crappy civvie thus far in the game, and I'm not gonna pin that on anybody else, but I shouldn't trust people so easily.

MP and Made have to be bad, and while I'm less sure about her, the Dana connection comes naturally. I'll make sure to get a better read on her if I still can tomorrow.

linki- You were also a leading lynch candidate going into Day 4, but then you decided to go MIA and the votes were completely split between me and Made. Sorry, man, I don't believe you.

Sig bet me then, Enri. If you're so sure that I'm bad all of a sudden after defending me hard all game. Also, you're TOTALLY lying, most of the game we haven't agreed.

I hope you die tonight.

And of course, I mean that in a game-related fashion, because I've enjoyed playing mafia with you after your hiatus. :P

Enrique wrote: Made would have been outed.

Made outed himself.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sig bet me then, Enri. If you're so sure that I'm bad all of a sudden after defending me hard all game. Also, you're TOTALLY lying, most of the game we haven't agreed.

Let's do it. Sig bets are an awful way to try to get sympathy and steer the lynch away from you, but yeah why not

I think we've agreed about a fair number of things. I didn't spend so long defending you for nothing. We were together in the juliets and Snow Dog lynches, defended some of the same players. Biggest difference opinion I can think of (other than you coming after me on Day 1) is regarding SD, but even that I just shrugged off as you being overly paranoid.

I hope you die tonight.

Well that's harsh

linki @ Epig- I pretty much agree, but nobody would have any doubts if my suggested scenario had happened.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm sorry, I realize I may come across as incredibly frustrated, but it's probably because I am frustrated as hell right now. I am completely stressed out because of my PhD workload this week, which includes plenty of GRA assignments, a 15+ page research paper, two midterm exams, seemingly never-ending quantitative economics homework, and 30+ hours of empirical accounting research to read.

Not to mention the fact that I'm being suspected heavily for supposed connections to Made which are absolutely untrue and I just don't have the time or the motivation to defend against anymore. I've been practically defending myself constantly all game AGAIN, as it happens practically every full game I play.

All the more reason I say just lynch me and get it over with so I can focus on real life, which is more important, as amazing as this game is, and finally stop talking about me being bad because it's not true. Just promise me you'll lynch Enrique after me, please and thank you.

These are not the reasons why I suspect you. This reads as a play for sympathy.

Enrique wrote:Anything else, Dana? What do you think went down on Day 4? What do you have to say to the suggestion that you're Made and MP's teammate?

I'm unsure what went down on Day 4 because I'm not caught up yet, but I have no class tomorrow so it will definitely be a mafia day. I am not Made or MP's teammate. I defended MP because I believe he is good, and I do not want good people to die. I defended Made slightly, but I've been pretty unsure about him, and I have also been saying he's acting odd.

Enrique wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sig bet me then, Enri. If you're so sure that I'm bad all of a sudden after defending me hard all game. Also, you're TOTALLY lying, most of the game we haven't agreed.

Let's do it. Sig bets are an awful way to try to get sympathy and steer the lynch away from you, but yeah why not

I think we've agreed about a fair number of things. I didn't spend so long defending you for nothing. We were together in the juliets and Snow Dog lynches, defended some of the same players. Biggest difference opinion I can think of (other than you coming after me on Day 1) is regarding SD, but even that I just shrugged off as you being overly paranoid.

I hope you die tonight.

Well that's harsh

linki @ Epig- I pretty much agree, but nobody would have any doubts if my suggested scenario had happened.

Fantastic!

And yes, I realize it came across as harsh, but I incredibly firmly believe you are bad, and that's why I attempted to lighten the mood with my post subsequent.

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm sorry, I realize I may come across as incredibly frustrated, but it's probably because I am frustrated as hell right now. I am completely stressed out because of my PhD workload this week, which includes plenty of GRA assignments, a 15+ page research paper, two midterm exams, seemingly never-ending quantitative economics homework, and 30+ hours of empirical accounting research to read.

Not to mention the fact that I'm being suspected heavily for supposed connections to Made which are absolutely untrue and I just don't have the time or the motivation to defend against anymore. I've been practically defending myself constantly all game AGAIN, as it happens practically every full game I play.

All the more reason I say just lynch me and get it over with so I can focus on real life, which is more important, as amazing as this game is, and finally stop talking about me being bad because it's not true. Just promise me you'll lynch Enrique after me, please and thank you.

These are not the reasons why I suspect you. This reads as a play for sympathy.

I know they're not the reasons that you suspect me (or keys or Chris for that matter); I've addressed those, and I respect your right to believe I'm bad based on other, more seemingly legitimate but still incorrect reasons.

I'm not asking for sympathy, just your vote.

Raxacoricofallapatorius
3
Gotrees (4), Metalmarsh89 (10), Black Rock (13) 13%

Red Rocket Rising
3
keys56000000000 (2), Elohcin (11), Snow Dog (16) 13%

Rexel 4
14
zeek (5), S~V~S (6), sabie12 (8), Dom (9), juliets (12), Hedgeowl (14), DFaraday (15), MovingPictures07 (17), Enrique (18), Bass_the_Clever (20), Turnip Head (21), nijuukyugou (22), Epignosis (23), Dana (24) 58%

Riftan Five
2
Long Con (7), Chris (19) 8%

The TARDIS! (Host/Non/Dead)
2
birdwithteeth11 (1), bea (3) 8%

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Enrique wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sig bet me then, Enri. If you're so sure that I'm bad all of a sudden after defending me hard all game. Also, you're TOTALLY lying, most of the game we haven't agreed.

Let's do it. Sig bets are an awful way to try to get sympathy and steer the lynch away from you, but yeah why not

I think we've agreed about a fair number of things. I didn't spend so long defending you for nothing. We were together in the juliets and Snow Dog lynches, defended some of the same players. Biggest difference opinion I can think of (other than you coming after me on Day 1) is regarding SD, but even that I just shrugged off as you being overly paranoid.

I hope you die tonight.

Well that's harsh

linki @ Epig- I pretty much agree, but nobody would have any doubts if my suggested scenario had happened.

Fantastic!

And yes, I realize it came across as harsh, but I incredibly firmly believe you are bad, and that's why I attempted to lighten the mood with my post subsequent.

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm sorry, I realize I may come across as incredibly frustrated, but it's probably because I am frustrated as hell right now. I am completely stressed out because of my PhD workload this week, which includes plenty of GRA assignments, a 15+ page research paper, two midterm exams, seemingly never-ending quantitative economics homework, and 30+ hours of empirical accounting research to read.

Not to mention the fact that I'm being suspected heavily for supposed connections to Made which are absolutely untrue and I just don't have the time or the motivation to defend against anymore. I've been practically defending myself constantly all game AGAIN, as it happens practically every full game I play.

All the more reason I say just lynch me and get it over with so I can focus on real life, which is more important, as amazing as this game is, and finally stop talking about me being bad because it's not true. Just promise me you'll lynch Enrique after me, please and thank you.

These are not the reasons why I suspect you. This reads as a play for sympathy.

I know they're not the reasons that you suspect me (or keys or Chris for that matter); I've addressed those, and I respect your right to believe I'm bad based on other, more seemingly legitimate but still incorrect reasons.

I'm not asking for sympathy, just your vote.

MovingPictures07 wrote:And yes, I realize it came across as harsh, but I incredibly firmly believe you are bad, and that's why I attempted to lighten the mood with my post subsequent.

The feeling's mutual!

MP, what benefit does your team get if you're lynched?

Dom wrote:MP, what benefit does your team get if you're lynched?

There's no catch. You have my word. Although it may seem questionable to some degree that civvies will benefit, I can ensure you that they will, and that I am on their team.

Zeek was civilian, so fuck.

Made was bad, so yay.

Wow, that first result is incredibly disappointing. RIP zeek, I know we lost a powerful contribution to the civvie cause there.

And BIH (very likely) Made!

Mixed bag.

Linki, what Epig said.

Strax.

RIP zeek You were top of my civ list, and though I have been reconsidering a lot of it, I was still pretty sure about you. You will be avenged if I make it through the day.

Wow Epig and Enrique waste no time.

zeek, I just have to say it was an incredible pleasure playing with you on your first game here, and I really enjoyed your company, and thanks for realizing my intentions, even if we got off to a bad start. You played REALLY well and you fought admirably for the civvie cause. I look forward to the next game, buddy.

Now, for the record, I am a civvie. I swear on my sig bets with both keys and Enrique that I am. I'm just really stressed out RL and lately having a really hard time dealing with being in defense mode, especially with Enrique blabbering nonsense (no offense ). I know that sounds odd, but I really think my flip will provide more good than harm at this point. Trust me, I've thought about this. It's not a simple sacrifice. I have assessed that this needs to happen and it needs to happen now. There's no trick. I promise all of you.

I'd prefer that I go today... but I won't argue against an Enrique lynch either.

Votes MP

Can you at least sub out MP?

Man, I can feel the aggression in this thread right now.

MP, stop.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Can you at least sub out MP?

It's not purely an RL move, trust me. If it were, I would have asked to be replaced. I have every intention of fulfilling my duties this game. I just am simultaneously proving a point (and providing information), confirming my civvieness, and I promise the damage will be minimal.

Anyone can see that I'm an inevitable lynch candidate, and I've thought about it a lot, and I need to go now. Not later.

Linki: Dom, I have my reasons. Just trust me on this.

And that's all I will say on the matter, unless anyone wants to hear anything else from me on it. I won't oppose votes being used on Enrique, as that is incredibly logical.

bea wrote:From a hosting standpoint - I'd like to add that Zeek is an AWESOME new member of our community. I hope he plays and hosts many games with us. SVS is the one who calls out my puppies. And yea. I've grown very fond of Zeek

Every bit of this.

Zeek, you are a terrific player and it was awesome to host you! I hope you continue to play mafia with us on this site!

Very bold, MP, but I don't want you to take it back when it doesn't pay off.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

bea wrote:From a hosting standpoint - I'd like to add that Zeek is an AWESOME new member of our community. I hope he plays and hosts many games with us. SVS is the one who calls out my puppies. And yea. I've grown very fond of Zeek

Every bit of this.

Zeek, you are a terrific player and it was awesome to host you! I hope you continue to play mafia with us on this site!

Fucking hell, nobody ever kisses my ass when I bite the bullet.

Epignosis wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

bea wrote:From a hosting standpoint - I'd like to add that Zeek is an AWESOME new member of our community. I hope he plays and hosts many games with us. SVS is the one who calls out my puppies. And yea. I've grown very fond of Zeek

Every bit of this.

Zeek, you are a terrific player and it was awesome to host you! I hope you continue to play mafia with us on this site!

Fucking hell, nobody ever kisses my ass when I bite the bullet.

Seriously, zeek, please play again.

Epignosis wrote:Seriously, zeek, please play again.

Just read the night post.

RIP Zeek, a truly upstanding citizen. You will be missed.

Made, on the other hand: hopefully Strax was right in killing you.

Dylan, you might be able to answer this. "The upgrade had failed" before the Cybermen killed zeek? What does that mean?

Enrique wrote:Dylan, you might be able to answer this. "The upgrade had failed" before the Cybermen killed zeek? What does that mean?

It means you're ready to take your medicine.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Can you at least sub out MP?

It's not purely an RL move, trust me. If it were, I would have asked to be replaced. I have every intention of fulfilling my duties this game. I just am simultaneously proving a point (and providing information), confirming my civvieness, and I promise the damage will be minimal.

Anyone can see that I'm an inevitable lynch candidate, and I've thought about it a lot, and I need to go now. Not later.

Linki: Dom, I have my reasons. Just trust me on this.

How many baddies have we actually, definitely killed? And you want to go tossing yourself away? RL aside, I don't think that's a good move.

Strax's a bitch ass nigga. I'm out, PPPEEEEAACCCCEEEEE

Epignosis wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

bea wrote:From a hosting standpoint - I'd like to add that Zeek is an AWESOME new member of our community. I hope he plays and hosts many games with us. SVS is the one who calls out my puppies. And yea. I've grown very fond of Zeek

Every bit of this.

Zeek, you are a terrific player and it was awesome to host you! I hope you continue to play mafia with us on this site!

Fucking hell, nobody ever kisses my ass when I bite the bullet.

Are you the new guy on this site who just got NKed? Is there ANY worry that when you do get killed you might not come back? Ok then - shut the fuck up asshole.