Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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In a few words at least, tell me why Long Con is a civilian.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:33 pmThe formerJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:31 pm @TonyStarkPrime to be clear:
Do you simply affirm that "yes, tonight I want to kill Karen"
Or do you have to name a player and hope that the player happens to be Karen?
you're gonna have to explain this one man
I think it sounds incredibly powerful.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:35 pm your main power being the ability to kill one person on and odd night seems... at least for a game as role heavy as this, kinda weak
Tony kills civilian Desmond + Mafia team kill = Game over
note that the only way this can be stopped if I’m scum is by lynching me over Epi.
It is currently 4:3. After today, it will be 4:2. If Desmond is both town and not the wolf kill, two townies die (2:2).
He has secondary abilities that provide him some utility in the event that he chooses not to kill Desmond.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:38 pm Someone tell me how Tony's claimed role makes any sense whatsoever for a civilian if Desmond is also a civilian -- especially in a 9 vs. 4 game
No one voted to save him day 1. Epi and Turnip treated the lynch as if they didn’t care. Maybe vote manipulation or some clever scum willing to risk it, and LC didn’t vote to save himself so if he had teammates they’d hardly be expected to do it, but can you imagine if a scum member were lynched or nearly lynched with not a single mafia member on him or the counter lynch? That only happens if the top two options are town.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:35 pmIn a few words at least, tell me why Long Con is a civilian.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:33 pmThe formerJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:31 pm @TonyStarkPrime to be clear:
Do you simply affirm that "yes, tonight I want to kill Karen"
Or do you have to name a player and hope that the player happens to be Karen?
[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] confirm or deny secondary abilities.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:40 pmHe has secondary abilities that provide him some utility in the event that he chooses not to kill Desmond.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:38 pm Someone tell me how Tony's claimed role makes any sense whatsoever for a civilian if Desmond is also a civilian -- especially in a 9 vs. 4 game
Why does mafia tony make this convoluted claim?
Confirm existence of.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:42 pm@TonyStarkPrime confirm or deny secondary abilities.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:40 pmHe has secondary abilities that provide him some utility in the event that he chooses not to kill Desmond.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:38 pm Someone tell me how Tony's claimed role makes any sense whatsoever for a civilian if Desmond is also a civilian -- especially in a 9 vs. 4 game
Why does mafia tony make this convoluted claim?
POE was tightening around him. He is from HCRealms, where convoluted claims are a way of life.
especially after epi got wrecked from a fake claimts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:44 pm To me it reads like a fake claim from a player with a lack of understanding of the current game state and other claimed powers, but... There is always that bothersome "why?"
At this point I think you're going to need to expand.
Not exactly, but my role is exceptionally underwhelming, to the point where I do not really understand what purpose it has.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:45 pm Without actually claiming your roles, I have a general question:
Does anyone else out there have a role that made them question how it can even make mechanical sense -- i.e. even using it would potentially screw you?
I have a role that makes sense to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:45 pm Without actually claiming your roles, I have a general question:
Does anyone else out there have a role that made them question how it can even make mechanical sense -- i.e. even using it would potentially screw you?
I’ve hinted to it. It’s underwhelming. As to your previous question, I’ll point out that Mac had a Vig shot that could only hit people with pirate ships, something which is currently looking to be very limited (and thus far solely town).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:45 pmAt this point I think you're going to need to expand.
but if mac was killed on a night that he also killed then we know at least one mafia member must have a ship.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:49 pmI’ve hinted to it. It’s underwhelming. As to your previous question, I’ll point out that Mac had a Vig shot that could only hit people with pirate ships, something which is currently looking to be very limited (and thus far solely town).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:45 pmAt this point I think you're going to need to expand.
Yes and I maintain this didn’t happen.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:53 pmbut if mac was killed on a night that he also killed then we know at least one mafia member must have a ship.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:49 pmI’ve hinted to it. It’s underwhelming. As to your previous question, I’ll point out that Mac had a Vig shot that could only hit people with pirate ships, something which is currently looking to be very limited (and thus far solely town).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:45 pmAt this point I think you're going to need to expand.
trust me i did too much research into this.
Yes. At this point, trying to hide the rest of your role will not help town prepare in the night.
no
nothing.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:55 pm or at least tell us what you did n1 if you didn't try to kill
Nots account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:56 pmYes. At this point, trying to hide the rest of your role will not help town prepare in the night.
JJJ- do you think it is time for a massclaim, then? Given... all this.
Yeah this is wackJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:37 pmI think it sounds incredibly powerful.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:35 pm your main power being the ability to kill one person on and odd night seems... at least for a game as role heavy as this, kinda weak
It either A) ruins the civilian numbers in one go or B) eliminates a mafioso with no questions asked
The swing potential of such a thing is immense. The design doesn't make sense to me if A) is even possible though.
Why?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:54 pmYes and I maintain this didn’t happen.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:53 pmbut if mac was killed on a night that he also killed then we know at least one mafia member must have a ship.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:49 pmI’ve hinted to it. It’s underwhelming. As to your previous question, I’ll point out that Mac had a Vig shot that could only hit people with pirate ships, something which is currently looking to be very limited (and thus far solely town).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:45 pmAt this point I think you're going to need to expand.
trust me i did too much research into this.
uhTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:38 pmnote that the only way this can be stopped if I’m scum is by lynching me over Epi.
Unfortunately after thinking about this I think we are still forced to lynch Epignosis today.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:59 pmuhTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:38 pmnote that the only way this can be stopped if I’m scum is by lynching me over Epi.
hm
it doesn't. Something isn't adding up and it's because Tony is mafia. But he's right, if he is, we are fucked if we don't lynch him today lol. But we can't do that unless we come to absolute certainty that he is scum.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:38 pm Someone tell me how Tony's claimed role makes any sense whatsoever for a civilian if Desmond is also a civilian -- especially in a 9 vs. 4 game
Why is he a liar?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:01 pm Liar. [VOTE: Tony] aubergine
Sorry I can't be around today. I'll try for better tomorrow.
I have doubts that the claim is even true, so that threat rings hollow.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:01 pmit doesn't. Something isn't adding up and it's because Tony is mafia. But he's right, if he is, we are fucked if we don't lynch him today lol. But we can't do that unless we come to absolute certainty that he is scum.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:38 pm Someone tell me how Tony's claimed role makes any sense whatsoever for a civilian if Desmond is also a civilian -- especially in a 9 vs. 4 game
It is even possible that Epignosis is the scum with the second kill, and Tony is outting to save them. There is too much uncertainty around Tony to comfortably lynch them instead of Epignosis.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:03 pm I have doubts that the claim is even true, so that threat rings hollow.
1) Mac thinks he’s getting killed night 1, he made sure of it. He used the power that night. How do we know? Largely we don’t, but it’s agreed that that makes more sense. It’s quite possible that Epi targeted him with an additional kill that night and failed, or just tried to block him. Epi also needs a reason to lie about his night 1 action. Maybe it’s so he can get counterclaimed by his teammate to secure an easy win, maybe it’s because he had more nefarious purposes. If Mac didn’t use the power it’s agreed he got very paranoid night 2 after being in BTSC with Ted for a day, which is almost confirmed. Then scum would have had to get lucky enough to target him with a pirate ship kill — and on current proportions it’s unlikely they have more than one— and he would have had to turned on someone in his towncore for no real reason.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:59 pmWhy?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:54 pmYes and I maintain this didn’t happen.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:53 pmbut if mac was killed on a night that he also killed then we know at least one mafia member must have a ship.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:49 pmI’ve hinted to it. It’s underwhelming. As to your previous question, I’ll point out that Mac had a Vig shot that could only hit people with pirate ships, something which is currently looking to be very limited (and thus far solely town).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:45 pmAt this point I think you're going to need to expand.
trust me i did too much research into this.
ooh spicyspeedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:01 pm Liar. [VOTE: Tony] aubergine
Sorry I can't be around today. I'll try for better tomorrow.
Yeah I kinda feel this despite myself. But again, if he's town I feel like Desmond has to be mafia which as Jay said is a free kill and he should use it, but if there is any chance at all Desmond is town he shouldn't use it because it just loses the game (unless mafia target the same person)... which is so silly.
Please give us something more than thisspeedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:01 pm Liar. [VOTE: Tony] aubergine
Sorry I can't be around today. I'll try for better tomorrow.
That's a thought.ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:04 pmIt is even possible that Epignosis is the scum with the second kill, and Tony is outting to save them. There is too much uncertainty around Tony to comfortably lynch them instead of Epignosis.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:03 pm I have doubts that the claim is even true, so that threat rings hollow.