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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:32 pm
by Alison
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:12 pm [VOTE: VOTE TSP] aubergine


Al Sama is a great option as well, also Marmot
Why have you stopped pushing me?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:32 pm
by Hally
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:28 pm
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:21 pm
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:13 pm Who's Hally?
good question :ponder:
Why is Hally?
i don’t know :omg:
How is Hally? :hug:
i’m alright :biggrin:

how are you all?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:33 pm
by tedxtr
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:31 pm
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:30 pm if you let me live i can put in the work later, most likely

i'm usually easily clearable if i want to be
hey I said that in the last game I was mafia in before I got chopped.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:33 pm
by Hally
mac
alison
michelle

my villagers so far. let’s keep adding

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:33 pm
by Marmot
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:25 pm marmot, i skimmed your iso and i dislike it

can you link me recent town/scum games? preferably large ones. i want to see how you play in big games

I don't play big games, they play me. :sigh:


Town Games:

Spiderverse Mafia
Fallout Mafia



Mafia Games:

Game of Champions
Shadow Corridors (I played as Thundercat here)

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:34 pm
by Alison
Marmot was mafia in GOC?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:35 pm
by Alison
Man I have no idea what happened in there any more. For all I know you guys had an orgy in the thread and I was just slanking the whole time.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:35 pm
by BoKnows
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:33 pm mac
alison
michelle

my villagers so far. let’s keep adding
falcon trust me

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:35 pm
by fingersplints
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:24 pm fingersplints is being hesitantly GTHed town by most of the playerlist. She has not had many glaring scumtells in her posting, but she also hasn't been massively town. The people who know her seem to think she is town. SPF has outed a scumread on fingersplints accompanied by a case in which she argues that fingersplints has had lukewarm posting that is specifically designed to agree with consensus and be bland and hedgey. There has been some pressure on fingersplints but I think most of those people were just pressing buttons or sheeping SPF. Of note is the fact that she was blindingly obvious consensus town in all the other games she's been in where she is town, and she isn't here.
I’d like to point out that those two games I played with you are literally the only ones in my mafia career that I was consensus town.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:37 pm
by Marmot
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:35 pm Man I have no idea what happened in there any more. For all I know you guys had an orgy in the thread and I was just slanking the whole time.

I mean... We did. You missed it.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:37 pm
by Alison
I think Hally's entrance is unremarkable. It isn't scummy, it isn't townie. The main interesting point is that she is willing to just hard sheep Mac and by extension myself. I tend to think that is a townie behavior because you're ceding full control of the game to someone else (who is very likely and confirmed town, respectively). If they are a scum then either our POE is complete nonsense or they are willing to bus hard. Coupled with tutuu being townier than not, and the fact that their reads are pretty palatable, I am willing to call this slot town.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:39 pm
by Alison
You know that huge wall of text helping Hally catch up would be enough to hard clear 80% of mafia players but it barely gets a nod coming from me. :(

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:40 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I thought Michelle was a wolf because when Michelle’s town I expect higher post counts and one or two off the wall weird interactions early. It’s not like I just threw a dart at a dartboard

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:40 pm
by Marmot
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:37 pm I think Hally's entrance is unremarkable. It isn't scummy, it isn't townie. The main interesting point is that she is willing to just hard sheep Mac and by extension myself. I tend to think that is a townie behavior because you're ceding full control of the game to someone else (who is very likely and confirmed town, respectively). If they are a scum then either our POE is complete nonsense or they are willing to bus hard. Coupled with tutuu being townier than not, and the fact that their reads are pretty palatable, I am willing to call this slot town.

I'm fine giving them time to adjust, their entrance wasn't what I expected from them.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:40 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:39 pm You know that huge wall of text helping Hally catch up would be enough to hard clear 80% of mafia players but it barely gets a nod coming from me. :(
tbh it shifted my perspective of you

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:41 pm
by Alison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:40 pm
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:39 pm You know that huge wall of text helping Hally catch up would be enough to hard clear 80% of mafia players but it barely gets a nod coming from me. :(
tbh it shifted my perspective of you
Based on the way you're wording this I'm sensing you're about to go "psyche, I meant it made me see you as scummier!" so go on and explain why.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:42 pm
by staypositivefriend
hi hally! welcome to the game

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:42 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
No it made me drop my tinfoil Alison wolf read

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:42 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
You just seem so uninterested in solving when you’re a wolf and I liked the third person POV touch

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:43 pm
by BoKnows
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:39 pm You know that huge wall of text helping Hally catch up would be enough to hard clear 80% of mafia players but it barely gets a nod coming from me. :(
I said thanks... That has to count for something right?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:44 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I preemptively rue the day I finally roll mafia again and then nobody town reads me for anything whatsoever after that. :ninja:

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:44 pm
by Alison
Effortclearing me is a scummy move. Townies are more paranoid than that.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:44 pm
by staypositivefriend
i'm caught up with the game. i came to the conclusion that the tutuu slot was probably town before i saw that hally had replaced her - i thought that her specific engagement w/alison a couple of pages ago showed a towny mindset, and it isn't because of the emotion/ATE

marmot's posting throughout the last couple of pages has pinged me. i still think that boknows is more likely to be a villager than not even though some of his posting worries me.

tedextr's reaction to mac was scummy not because of the "should i take this seriously?' stuff but because his reaction felt a little bit like a deer in the headlights to me.

i remain apathetic about tonystarkprime

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:44 pm
by Hally
@Alison what’s your read on marmot?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:45 pm
by Alison
I agree with you on the tutuu thing.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:45 pm
by Marmot
I'm not voting for Long Con today, his efforts look normal and believable.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:46 pm
by falcon45ca
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:39 pm You know that huge wall of text helping Hally catch up would be enough to hard clear 80% of mafia players but it barely gets a nod coming from me. :(
Is that why you did it?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:46 pm
by BoKnows
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:44 pm I preemptively rue the day I finally roll mafia again and then nobody town reads me for anything whatsoever after that. :ninja:
I think my question to you got lost in the sea of posts but are you able to elaborate on your TSP read for me?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
by Justplayingitcool
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:45 pm I'm not voting for Long Con today, his efforts look normal and believable.
I don't really get this post. LC isn't even a wagon.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
by Alison
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:44 pm @Alison what’s your read on marmot?
Upper POE. Uninspiring posting, some scummy stuff, nothing really outing. Only comment is that if the game goes on a few days and Marmot continues lingering in the upper POE slot coasting along, exe him on policy, his wolf specialty is remaining perpetually the second most attractive exe for the whole game and then winning endgame.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
by falcon45ca
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:45 pm I'm not voting for Long Con today, his efforts look normal and believable.
Since he has ZERO votes right now, I'm sure this makes him a lot less nervous

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
by Sloonei
I do not feel like TSP is the right place to vote today.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:48 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:44 pm I preemptively rue the day I finally roll mafia again and then nobody town reads me for anything whatsoever after that. :ninja:
I think my question to you got lost in the sea of posts but are you able to elaborate on your TSP read for me?
It's hard to see game solving happening in his decent load of posts. There are reads, or things resembling reads, hurled into the void here and there, but I couldn't begin to piece together progressions or thought processes or cohesive solving. Sometimes his posts feel like they spring out of a random generator.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:49 pm
by Sloonei
I still think halltu is mafia but I would like to let Hally have a chance to get into the game and dissuade me.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:49 pm
by Alison
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:46 pm
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:39 pm You know that huge wall of text helping Hally catch up would be enough to hard clear 80% of mafia players but it barely gets a nod coming from me. :(
Is that why you did it?
No, I already know that they won't clear me for it due to being burned too many times.

I did it to help Hally get into the game whilst also influencing their reads and perception of the game through biased summaries written to look objective.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:49 pm
by Marmot
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
Marmot wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:45 pm I'm not voting for Long Con today, his efforts look normal and believable.
Since he has ZERO votes right now, I'm sure this makes him a lot less nervous

That is my goal. :noble:

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:49 pm
by Marmot
There were a couple players I wanted to ISO last night and LC was one of them.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:50 pm
by fingersplints
I’m still unsure what to make of tutuu/Hally. I don’t have any comparison to say whether the frustration was more likely town or scum. There were posts I liked, and posts I didn’t. The main one of didn’t coming to mind was the trying to paint either me or spf as having to be one of us as wolf, when there is a town/town possibility. Having said that I don’t know if the scummier moments are chalked up to different play styles, and I wasn’t planning on voting there today anyways so Hally has time for me

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:50 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm I do not feel like TSP is the right place to vote today.
Immediate vibes on these folks please:

AL_sama
Marmot
tedxtr

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:50 pm
by Sloonei
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:35 pm Man I have no idea what happened in there any more. For all I know you guys had an orgy in the thread and I was just slanking the whole time.
That's essentially accurate. I wore a Homer Simpson costume.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:50 pm
by Alison
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm I do not feel like TSP is the right place to vote today.
How come?

I'm surprised TSP is the slot that makes Sloonei and Jay fall out of sync.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:51 pm
by Hally
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:35 pm
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:33 pm mac
alison
michelle

my villagers so far. let’s keep adding
falcon trust me
i saw alison say he’s lock clear so okay

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:51 pm
by tedxtr
the top wagons look like terrible wagons

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I think Hally's posts are a pretty seamless continuation of the previous tutuu aesthetic. So far my read isn't changed, and it was airing cautiously on the town side before. I'm not super sold, but I also don't anticipate viewing Hally as the best Day 1 chop.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by Marmot
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm I do not feel like TSP is the right place to vote today.
Immediate vibes on these folks please:

AL_sama
Marmot
tedxtr
No read
Town
Town

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by Alison
Falcon is like if Michelle were a Canadian hockey fan. If he looks town, he probably is.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by Hally
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:42 pm hi hally! welcome to the game
hiiiiii ❤️

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by BoKnows
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:48 pm
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:44 pm I preemptively rue the day I finally roll mafia again and then nobody town reads me for anything whatsoever after that. :ninja:
I think my question to you got lost in the sea of posts but are you able to elaborate on your TSP read for me?
It's hard to see game solving happening in his decent load of posts. There are reads, or things resembling reads, hurled into the void here and there, but I couldn't begin to piece together progressions or thought processes or cohesive solving. Sometimes his posts feel like they spring out of a random generator.
I do agree that some of the stuff he says comes out of left field. Is having random ideas/thoughts scum motivated though? My biggest gripe with TSP is that some of his posts just feel like words on paper with little to no meaning.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm I do not feel like TSP is the right place to vote today.
Immediate vibes on these folks please:

AL_sama
Marmot
tedxtr
AL_sama is not a town read, but I am hesitant to vote out of a concern that my suspicion of them is a product of stranger danger and a player struggling to integrate in a strange new environment.

Marmot currently has my vote. He feels like he's on shaky ground in this game.

I still have not looked at ted. I gather that stuff happened while I was asleep. You all finally posted enough this morning to prevent me from remaining fully up to date.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by Alison
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm I think Hally's posts are a pretty seamless continuation of the previous tutuu aesthetic. So far my read isn't changed, and it was airing cautiously on the town side before. I'm not super sold, but I also don't anticipate viewing Hally as the best Day 1 chop.
aesthetic?