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Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:58 am
by MacDougall
Dude I think it's my big longwinded posts more than anything that piss people off, so sorry about that.

If I raise points and the player just cries that I'm frustrating and annoying instead of arguing the specifics I will put down my guns if I feel their reasoning is sound. I did it with Golden already.

I am ruthless when I think I am seeing scum but if I get the sense I am wrong I will stop. I have yet to get that sense from you and you haven't done much to help me achieve that.

Just out of curiosity, did you read my big ass Golden case? Because I can understand if you skimmed or didn't bother. It was exhaustive.

You still really are only criticizing my play, haven't brought up anything alignment indicative, so what am I supposed to do when you maintain a bad guy read on me? It looks made up is all.

Before you make assumptions that I am MPs teammate, I voted for him day 3, accused him of being scum with Russ on day 1, have now revealed a lot of information that makes him look worse about his interactions with Enrique and bcornett through voter analysis all while he's been nothing but nice to me and maintained me as his top town read. I think he's bad and he's tried desperately to buddy me. At times I think it's worked too.

Do you think that the Hutts knew Enrique was a Hutt? The roles seem to only say they had no BTSC. Surely we must assume they knew each other right? Just want your POV on that.

Civilian Mac is a cold ruthless prick when he thinks he sees scum and I apologise if it offends you. Perhaps we'd get along better if I was a bad guy haha.

And I didn't know you had been busy with teaching stuff dude, it's not a personal thing. MP has made a big deal about being busy with a PHD which is a huge deal but if I'd known you were on student teacher assignments I'd be giving you as much respect, but tbh you haven't asked for any quarter either whereas he kind of has tried to use it as an excuse. Which is a worse look for him than you in all honesty.

I would really like it if you took a look at the voter analysis. Maybe you'll find some good stuff. My intention was to help people find bad guys by doing that. I'm not sure how revealing a whole fuckton of voter analysis is helpful for bad guys. :haha:

Zebra has been C3PO'd I take it.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:59 am
by Turnip Head
Canucklehead wrote:Just take a look at my P-score. I may actually be the only person on this site who has actually (rightfully) been penalized in that way.
You are not alone :hug:

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:00 am
by MacDougall
a2thezebra wrote:MP is bad. He is not bad. He is Empire. He is one of the Jawas. He is town. He is Hutt. He is one of the Tusken Raiders. He is civilian. He must be lynched. Dom is good.

MovingPictures07
Dom is good. You were throwing mighty amounts of shade at Dom a day ago. What's he done to change your mind aside from help you with this MP lynch wagon?

Dom, what's your read on Zebra?

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:03 am
by a2thezebra
I didn't say Dom is good, Dom is bad.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:05 am
by MacDougall
sig wrote:I don't trust Llama.
Zebra is a slight civ read for me.
I did have Mac as a civ, but I don't like that he voted for Dom over MP.
I'm feeling better about SpaceDaisy.
So you don't have me as a civilian anymore because I voted for a guy for reasons that I outlined quite carefully? Did you bother reading those reasons?

Also come on man elaborate.

Why don't you trust Llama? I have Llama as civ.

Why is Zebra a "slight" civ read? What has she done to have you second guess yourself.

What has SpaceDaisy done to make you feel better about her?

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:05 am
by MacDougall
a2thezebra wrote:I didn't say Dom is good, Dom is bad.
Insanity?

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:06 am
by a2thezebra
MacDougall wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I didn't say Dom is good, Dom is bad.
Insanity?
What about it? Dom is town.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:09 am
by a2thezebra
Why do I care if MP was half-way up my reads list so recently? Dom is not on our side.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:09 am
by MacDougall
Wtf is this?

On a side note, I haven't seen any mention of Lando's vote being up for auction in night posts or anything?

Mods would there be an announcement that we can bid on Lando's vote if he were alive?

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:10 am
by a2thezebra
Wtf is what?

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:12 am
by MacDougall
I don't really know how to communicate with you lol.

Press 1 if you think Dom is town
Press 2 if you think Dom is bad
Press 3 if you think Dom is a meat popsicle

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:12 am
by MacDougall
Zebra voted yesterday so ... C3PO ain't doing this.

Dark force powers missah.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:16 am
by a2thezebra
3

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:18 am
by a2thezebra
MP is 1 of the best Mafia players of all-time, regardless of what he says.

He is 2 good to be true.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:19 am
by a2thezebra
I don't know who did this, but whatever it is that I'm doing today, I can't make it obvious.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:20 am
by a2thezebra
Therefore what I'm doing that is against my own desires must be concealed. It could be a number of things, that way I can inform you that it is not me while simultaneously meeting the conditions of the culprit.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:22 am
by a2thezebra
Whatever it is, I find it rather amusing.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:22 am
by MacDougall
So you may not make it obvious that you are being forced to do this then?

Interesting.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:24 am
by MacDougall
I can't see a pattern to what you're saying though. Are you literally typing this stuff up yourself or is going through a translator?

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:25 am
by thellama73
C'mon Zebes, play the game
Try not to be lame
First rule of Curse Club
Is don't talk about Curse Club, bub.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:25 am
by MacDougall
thellama73 wrote:C'mon Zebes, play the game
Try not to be lame
First rule of Curse Club
Is don't talk about Curse Club, bub.
Yeah but you got C3POd.

She has a different situation happening to her.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:26 am
by a2thezebra
Yes Mac, whatever "this" is. That's for anyone else who cares to figure out, since I can't make it obvious. There is no pattern, I have to give you red herrings to not make it clear where I am forced and where I am not.

linki @ llama - Last time I checked I haven't missed a vote yet. :slick:

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:27 am
by MacDougall
a2thezebra wrote:Whatever it is, I find it rather amusing.
Yes your huge writing is not subtle hahaha.

So do you think Crumb's secrets are powers of persuasion or compulsion? I had an action I had to do a few days ago (nowhere near as fucked up as yours) that there is no obvious role to blame, so I believe you.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:30 am
by a2thezebra
I think so. I think Crumb's role could explain a number of bizarre things that have happened throughout the game.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:32 am
by MacDougall
Ah so you make sense unless you are actually making a read on a player, in which case you have to say the opposite to what you mean to say?

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:33 am
by Canucklehead
Obvious attempt to distance from Hutt team by team/self-targeting is obvious.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:40 am
by a2thezebra
MacDougall wrote:Ah so you make sense unless you are actually making a read on a player, in which case you have to say the opposite to what you mean to say?
Nope. I am only forced in one aspect and I want to make that clear, but I can't say which aspect it is. Even if you guess it correctly, I can't say yes, because then it would be obvious.

@Canuck :ponder:

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:50 am
by thellama73
Canucklehead wrote:Obvious attempt to distance from Hutt team by team/self-targeting is obvious.
Word, Canuck.
I wish you good luck.
You're one of the few making sense
when everyone else is so tense.
:hugs:

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:16 pm
by Tangrowth
THREE SEMESTERS OF PHD CLASSES DOWN, ONE TO GO!!!!!

:yay: x 9001

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:17 pm
by Marmot
MovingPictures07 wrote:THREE SEMESTERS OF PHD CLASSES DOWN, ONE TO GO!!!!!

:yay: x 9001
Congrats!

I haven't even started my finals yet. First one in 2 hours.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:18 pm
by Tangrowth
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:THREE SEMESTERS OF PHD CLASSES DOWN, ONE TO GO!!!!!

:yay: x 9001
Congrats!

I haven't even started my finals yet. First one in 2 hours.
Good luck!

I'll be catching up now. Stay tuned.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:22 pm
by Tangrowth
Dom wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:MP, Roxy suspected... you. :p (And me, but never gave a single reason.)

Why leave out Dr. Who where you were literally unkillable?
I just said both of those things in my post... More proof that people don't read my posts. :sigh:

Alright, I'm gone for real now. See you all later after I've fried my brain.
You wrote several extremely long paragraphs and I missed one detail, I'm sorry?

Also-- my point is that Roxy suspected the two of us.... that's who she suspected. You asked people to look into her posts and that's what they'll find. Excellent attempt to victimize yourself and discredit me, though.
I apologize, I was beyond stressed out, and was just feeling all kinds of things. I understand that I write a lot, so I'm not upset that you missed that.

Oh, okay. I remember her providing reads in the GTH, suspecting zebra earlier in the game, etc., stuff like that, but I cannot swiftly recall who all she actually has recently voiced suspicion of and what the reasons were.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:22 pm
by a2thezebra
MovingPictures07 wrote:THREE SEMESTERS OF PHD CLASSES DOWN, ONE TO GO!!!!!

:yay: x 9001
YOU DA MAN! :clap:

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:23 pm
by Tangrowth
Totally digging Z as the new nickname for zebra. Might start using that if zebra doesn't mind.

Thanks, Z! :slick:

I'm so glad I put all the studying in that I did, because I totally destroyed it, but man I'm glad it's over. Can't even express it.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:26 pm
by Tangrowth
Woah, pink overload post from Z. Let me continue onward and I can think about responding to that afterward.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:27 pm
by Tangrowth
I have 4 votes already? Bummer man.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:28 pm
by Dom
MacDougall wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:MP is bad. He is not bad. He is Empire. He is one of the Jawas. He is town. He is Hutt. He is one of the Tusken Raiders. He is civilian. He must be lynched. Dom is good.

MovingPictures07
Dom is good. You were throwing mighty amounts of shade at Dom a day ago. What's he done to change your mind aside from help you with this MP lynch wagon?

Dom, what's your read on Zebra?
I'd lean slight bad-- possibly civ. Mostly neutral because i've read things that make me think civ and make me think bad.

Also, please stop lying. I suspect your vote for me because you express extreme suspicion of MP. You say he's pretty much doomed because his wife suspects him. You vote for me.
Don't want to lynch a teammate?
Canucklehead wrote:Obvious attempt to distance from Hutt team by team/self-targeting is obvious.
THIS.

Why did it happen in the middle of the day?
I don't remember weird things before now.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:29 pm
by Dom
Did bubbles tell anyone about her vote?

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:30 pm
by a2thezebra
Read the following before my pink post, MP.

Total havoc is squandered inside sovereign airports, resting every damn hero, ending robust radicalized Islamic nincompoops gorging! So obvious in subtlety take heed in suspicions but understand that the heretics' every next entrance, xenophobic talk is stupid, never opt tones. Masquerading youth verily offers their existence in subtle facades of radiant Crumb energy, die!

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:31 pm
by a2thezebra
I'm starting to doubt the sincerity of Canuck's suspicion of me.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:34 pm
by Canucklehead
a2thezebra wrote:I'm starting to doubt the sincerity of Canuck's suspicion of me.
Why? I am sincerely suspicious of you.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:34 pm
by Tangrowth
Dom wrote:If MP is invested in lynching baddies, where did his Glorf/Daisy suspicion go? Where did his Russ suspicion go? I thought he thought baddies might be laying low? Russ has 20 posts.
They didn't go anywhere that I haven't already explained.

Day 5, Glorfindel was my top mafia read, so I voted for him. You can see why he's been my top mafia read by ISOing me and searching for him (or my rainbow lists).

Thoughts on GlorfinDaisy after Glorfindel subbed out.

Day 6 rainbow list -- Here you can see my cited reason for moving GlorfinDaisy up my rainbow list.

Day 3 rainbow list -- I explain why I have started to move Russ up my rainbow list.

I have thought the mafia might be laying low; it's difficult to assess.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:35 pm
by Tangrowth
Golden wrote:I agree with that, zebra. I think it likely roxy's read on MP came from tracking.

I just mean tracking is not foolproof in that someone else can target the same person at the same time. It's just one piece of a puzzle.
It didn't. I'm absolutely town.

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:38 pm
by Tangrowth
Between zebra, Dom, and sig, I'm starting to smell a coordinated lynch to take me down from at least someone piggybacking off of Roxy's flip to perpetuate a suspicion insinuating false information about me. And I don't like it.

I actually believe Dom is being sincere the more I read from him, so that leaves zebra and sig. :ponder:

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:39 pm
by Tangrowth
Dom wrote:MP, you say I'm a questioning player, and I'd say you're doubly so-- however, your questions tend to lead to suspicion and votes while mine (at the time) can seem more probing, random, and nit-picky (I've been told).
Why haven't you pursued your go to suspicions in days?
What do you mean?

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:40 pm
by Tangrowth
sig wrote:I would hardly call the MP wagon and easy wagon. Though I know if he is lynched we will get good results.
Llama are you saying Dom and MP are both mafia?
Except that it absolutely is an easy wagon. :stare:

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:40 pm
by Tangrowth
sig wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Voting for Dom.
Really? That seems like a revenge vote.

@Dom don't counter vote Mac just because he voted for you, look over MP as well as my case on him. I think you as well as any member that looks at my ISO then reads over MP will see, he is scum.

linki: Lynch post? LYNCH POST????? I thought we had another 24 hours ????!!!
Yep, sig is bad. You had me fooled!

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:42 pm
by Sorsha
MovingPictures07 wrote:Between zebra, Dom, and sig, I'm starting to smell a coordinated lynch to take me down from at least someone piggybacking off of Roxy's flip to perpetuate a suspicion insinuating false information about me. And I don't like it.

I actually believe Dom is being sincere the more I read from him, so that leaves zebra and sig. :ponder:
What about golden?

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:42 pm
by DrWilgy
So... I'm attepting to catch up again. After my weekend I went into finals mode...

I still want to do a canuck ISO.

Linki - Are we lynching sig? I'm always ok with lynching Sig :P

Re: STAR WARS Mafia [Day 7]

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:42 pm
by a2thezebra
Canucklehead wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I'm starting to doubt the sincerity of Canuck's suspicion of me.
Why? I am sincerely suspicious of you.
That's what I thought at first, but you've only looked at my Day 1 of my ISO so first and despite saying that you were only majorly pinged by one thing and that you want everyone to look at me objectively, you are now interpreting everything I say through a Hutt lense. I also find it interesting that llama, who credited me for one of Empire's kills, is now in strong agreement with you that I'm a Hutt. Dom, who reads me as "mostly neutral" in the same post is also agreeing with your assessment that I'm distancing myself with the Hutts because I now have personal experience with a theory that I've been pushing for the past two or three days (not to mention my actions started half-way in the day despite saying "MP" by name or addressing him in almost every post from the very start of the day). :suspish: Because you haven't called either of the people who agree with you out for their inconsistencies and you seem to have confirmed me as a Hutt based on my Day 1 ISO analyses, it seems like you're less interested in being objective and letting town decide for themselves based on the information alone than you're letting on. You seem to be pushing the narrative that I am a Hutt as a higher priority than anything else, which is unlike your scum-hunting up to this point. It's the same way I was bothered by MP's unwarranted focus on me earlier in the game. You at least have given me something to work with, but you're not following through on looking at both possibilities like you said you would.