The Syndicate

I'm not asking for 'credit for that day' or any day.

I just don't give a shit if you don't like my early voting. It works for me. It gets me information I need. People react. Certainly I was very happy with the responses my Quin vote netted when I woke up this morning, and it's not on me if someone bid so many votes for the bowl that they felt they needed to start a vote chain on someone they thought was civ just to stay alive.

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:Was I wrong, epi? Was I really?

I don't think I was. Even though I think you were civ. I think voting you helped lead to a good, informative day. I don't regret it.

No it didn't. Show me what your vote for me did to help inform everyone of anything.

I don't think you get the credit for that Day.

Your vote was shit and cast early because you were married to a theory.

I can't have been that married to it, given I was advocating for people to vote Eloh.

You voted for me. Don't be a Jack(ass).

And? You voted for me today. Is it because you are married to a theory that I'm bad?

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:Was I wrong, epi? Was I really?

I don't think I was. Even though I think you were civ. I think voting you helped lead to a good, informative day. I don't regret it.

No it didn't. Show me what your vote for me did to help inform everyone of anything.

I don't think you get the credit for that Day.

Your vote was shit and cast early because you were married to a theory.

I can't have been that married to it, given I was advocating for people to vote Eloh.

You voted for me. Don't be a Jack(ass).

And? You voted for me today. Is it because you are married to a theory that I'm bad?

No, you ninny. It's because I got home to find that my vote wouldn't matter. Nobody waited to hear what I might have to say after I got off work. That sucks.

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:When I left from work today, Quin had two votes. When I got home, showered, and ate, he had eight.

Not much I can say or do at that point.

I agree.

Is it really my fault? Or is the fact that Jack bet so many votes that after only two on Quin, they had to panic bus someone they are claiming to be town and an ally?

It's both.

Even if you were 100% sure on Quin, why would you vote as early as you did? How does that help anyone?

Golden wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I need someone to explain this bowl stuff to me like I have no idea what the hell it is. Because that's pretty much where I'm at.

Someone bet a lot of votes to protect themselves from nightkills for the next three nights. Either Jack or LC. Then they bussed quin to make sure they were alive to get the benefit.

I'm pretty sure that's not a baddie thing to do, because it shows they are scared about nightkills. On the other hand, they've basically put the target on the rest of us by making it clear they have it.

I disagree,seeing how at least three mafia members have been night killed, they should fear a night kill, frankly I suspect the scum did win it and are now directing the wagon away from them onto Quin, who when he flips civ then can bemoan it but take no responsibility. Since there is no reason why someone who isn't pro mafia would want to waste a day phase when we have ELEVEN PEOPLE LEFT!

Lets do some quick math?

11 - 1 (lynch) = 10
At best tomorrow
9
at worst
7 (maybe even fewer if we have items/secrets floating around)

So tell me how is it civvie to bus a civ since you don't want to get lynched? Not to spend the first 24 hours before almost any votes where cast arguing for an MP lynch, who the people in question thought was bad. No you'd rather waste at least one phase. Lynch a non mafia member and then argue all day tomorrow about pointless things.


Unless Quin doesn't die today, which could be why he voted for himself which means he's really ishmael.

Oh, ok then. Epi votes someone he believes is town, it's all good, context permits it. I vote for someone he believes is town, it's 'wrong', context isn't relevant.

Got it, ninny!

Having said that, I do not think it could have been anticipated that Jack, Quin and LC would take the course of action they took today.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:When I left from work today, Quin had two votes. When I got home, showered, and ate, he had eight.

Not much I can say or do at that point.

I agree.

Is it really my fault? Or is the fact that Jack bet so many votes that after only two on Quin, they had to panic bus someone they are claiming to be town and an ally?

It's both.

Even if you were 100% sure on Quin, why would you vote as early as you did? How does that help anyone?

Did it help epi to wait until it was too late to matter?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:When I left from work today, Quin had two votes. When I got home, showered, and ate, he had eight.

Not much I can say or do at that point.

I agree.

Is it really my fault? Or is the fact that Jack bet so many votes that after only two on Quin, they had to panic bus someone they are claiming to be town and an ally?

It's both.

Even if you were 100% sure on Quin, why would you vote as early as you did? How does that help anyone?

Honestly? You and LC can't criticize anyone on voting since y'all voted for someone you said was a civ.

And if I was ever able to be "100% sure" on anyone I'd vote them in the first minute of the day, not wait until over halfway.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I need someone to explain this bowl stuff to me like I have no idea what the hell it is. Because that's pretty much where I'm at.

Dom wrote:

Golden wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I need someone to explain this bowl stuff to me like I have no idea what the hell it is. Because that's pretty much where I'm at.

Someone bet a lot of votes to protect themselves from nightkills for the next three nights. Either Jack or LC. Then they bussed quin to make sure they were alive to get the benefit.

I'm pretty sure that's not a baddie thing to do, because it shows they are scared about nightkills. On the other hand, they've basically put the target on the rest of us by making it clear they have it.

how do you know what the bowl does?

See? See why I'm thinking I couldn't rely on enough players getting on a proper train?

Golden wrote:Oh, ok then. Epi votes someone he believes is town, it's all good, context permits it. I vote for someone he believes is town, it's 'wrong', context isn't relevant.

Got it, ninny!

Having said that, I do not think it could have been anticipated that Jack, Quin and LC would take the course of action they took today.

I don't believe Quin is a civilian. I have no reason for it. But you voted before I could even sit down and look at anything tonight.

You're irresponsible, Golden. You voted me and almost got me lynched. I don't care what works for you. If Quin is good, then this train of votes is horrid. Nobody had to think before dumping them on him.

Golden wrote:Having said that, I do not think it could have been anticipated that Jack, Quin and LC would take the course of action they took today.

Then fucking wait and see what they do before voting!

Golden wrote:And if I was ever able to be "100% sure" on anyone I'd vote them in the first minute of the day, not wait until over halfway.

Too bad the best you can do is 95%.

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:Having said that, I do not think it could have been anticipated that Jack, Quin and LC would take the course of action they took today.

Then fucking wait and see what they do before voting!

I shan't!

sig wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:When I left from work today, Quin had two votes. When I got home, showered, and ate, he had eight.

Not much I can say or do at that point.

I agree.

Is it really my fault? Or is the fact that Jack bet so many votes that after only two on Quin, they had to panic bus someone they are claiming to be town and an ally?

It's both.

Even if you were 100% sure on Quin, why would you vote as early as you did? How does that help anyone?

Honestly? You and LC can't criticize anyone on voting since y'all voted for someone you said was a civ.

Have you not read how the bowl mechanics work either?

I placed my vote exactly where it HAS to go because Golden and Daisy placed their vote somewhere it should have never been.

If I could time travel, I wouldn't change my vote. It's me or Quin. Quin keeps picking fights with people on his side for no reason and he doesn't have night protection.

What's Golden's excuse? Itchy trigger finger?

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:Having said that, I do not think it could have been anticipated that Jack, Quin and LC would take the course of action they took today.

Then fucking wait and see what they do before voting!

I just hate that we're dealing with new mechanics Day 6. I don't give a shit about a bowl. Fuck the bowl. I just wanted to go and find who is bad and be done. I don't feel like that has been done today.

Epignosis wrote:I just hate that we're dealing with new mechanics Day 6. I don't give a shit about a bowl. Fuck the bowl. I just wanted to go and find who is bad and be done. I don't feel like that has been done today.

Epignosis wrote:I just hate that we're dealing with new mechanics Day 6. I don't give a shit about a bowl. Fuck the bowl. I just wanted to go and find who is bad and be done. I don't feel like that has been done today.

Especially not by you.

You've just spent all your effort bitching instead of hunting. How can you talk?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:Having said that, I do not think it could have been anticipated that Jack, Quin and LC would take the course of action they took today.

Then fucking wait and see what they do before voting!

Also, it could have been partially anticipated.

I've been telling Sig and Golden to ISO me for days. Jack knowing Quin is not bad is not new.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:Having said that, I do not think it could have been anticipated that Jack, Quin and LC would take the course of action they took today.

Then fucking wait and see what they do before voting!

Also, it could have been partially anticipated.

I've been telling Sig and Golden to ISO me for days. Jack knowing Quin is not bad is not new.

I did a full iso of you. Why the fuck should I know you've bid so many votes for the bowl that you need to jump on the first wagon that gets two votes? That's insane.

And here I thought I was running a comparatively no-frills game compared to what you lot put out.

Also, btw Jack, you didn't need to. You don't know why, but you didn't. So you made a poor choice based on bad assumptions. But that's by the by, because this shouldn't be about lecturing others about how they've played the game wrong. It's time people snapped out of telling others what they are doing wrong and put their effort into actually doing something useful instead.

Golden wrote:You've just spent all your effort bitching instead of hunting. How can you talk?

Bitching? Is that what you think of my posts? I went through all of sprityo's posts. I examined LC's interactions with him in detail. That took a lot of time. I wanted to get some insight into who was bad.

All my effort was bitching though. Thanks Golden. Nice to know.

Hell yes I'm bitching NOW because my vote doesn't matter.

I'm happy with my vote because it's on a person who said I'm bitching instead of hunting.

This from a guy who thought the best use of his time was arguing with ONE person while most other people were sleeping, and then voting him before anybody else had a chance to weigh in properly.

Bitching. Hell yes, I'm bitching right now.

Golden wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Golden wrote:Having said that, I do not think it could have been anticipated that Jack, Quin and LC would take the course of action they took today.

Then fucking wait and see what they do before voting!

Also, it could have been partially anticipated.

I've been telling Sig and Golden to ISO me for days. Jack knowing Quin is not bad is not new.

I did a full iso of you. Why the fuck should I know you've bid so many votes for the bowl that you need to jump on the first wagon that gets two votes? That's insane.

Why the fuck should I anticipate you'd do a full ISO, see my rainbow list, see my defending Quin for the entire game, know I can't be mafia.....and then vote Quin less than halfway through the day? I thought I had cred. I thought you'd put two and two together.

It's like you and Sig would rather be right than logical, rather be right then win. Well watch Quin flip, take the short list and do something with it.

Fucking super townies.


Link: I'm doing something very useful. You're not listening.

I'm always right, but so far this game my rightness has also been logical. I was right on Glorf, I was most likely right on MM, I bet I'm right on my civ list, I was right about Dom (almost and that's what counts)

Also your really not, you're also laying all the blame on Golden, if you really depended on every player bussing one person because of a bowl then that is rather weak logic and way to risky.

Do we have the day 0 poll anywhere?

It'd be nice if everyone just voted so we can move on.

Epignosis wrote:It'd be nice if everyone just voted so we can move on.

Do Day periods end early if everyone votes before the deadline?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It'd be nice if everyone just voted so we can move on.

Do Day periods end early if everyone votes before the deadline?

no?

Quin is Hector, recruited by Ishmael, and is switching the lynch to MP.

Hmm.

i have no idea what im reading

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:It's like you and Sig would rather be right than logical, rather be right then win.

Or, you know, maybe you just know what you know and don't know what I know, so what looks like nonsense to you is entirely logical to me.

Epignosis wrote:Quin is Hector, recruited by Ishmael, and is switching the lynch to MP.

Hmm.

If there was a lynch switch in play, there'd have never been the sudden panic to protect Jack.

And I voted for LC, I don't think he is a civ, at worst he is an Indy and that sucks, but they aren't needed to win. I think he should have been lynched today instead of this Quin nonsense. However as long as Quin doesn't flip civ I'll be okay. Then tomorrow we can get back to the MP/LC/Jack show.

I still think the key here lies in Day 2 and we should focus our efforts reading over that. I still think LC could be mafia, maybe Jack isn't, but LC could be.

Tomorrow well lets see who lives shall we? I need to look into a few things over this next phase and I'll skim the players ISO again and see if anything sticks out.

linki: I highly doubt that Epi.

Golden wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Quin is Hector, recruited by Ishmael, and is switching the lynch to MP.

Hmm.

If there was a lynch switch in play, there'd have never been the sudden panic to protect Jack.

Unless Jack/LC aren't part of the Cult.

Jacks role is abundantly clear at this point and is not Troupe. I'll wait to see what Quin's flip is before I try and figure out LC.

You guys think I'm cult?

You have got to be kidding me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:You guys think I'm cult?

You have got to be kidding me.

I don't think you are cult. There's no way Quin is spouting his 'damning case' if that were true.

I think Ishmael died very early in this game. We've had no evidence at all that he is around. Perhaps blocked and killed on the same night.

Dom wrote:i have no idea what im reading

Then why did you vote LC?

Golden wrote:Jacks role is abundantly clear at this point and is not Troupe. I'll wait to see what Quin's flip is before I try and figure out LC.

I have no clue.

His hints did nothing for me, I mean he hints worse then I do, and I've done some mighty heavy hinting.


linki: Quin has a damning case on MP, this has nothing to do with Jack?

now i'm probably being a pissy little bitch that no one likes when i say this but

what the hell is anyone even talking about anymore?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Dom wrote:i have no idea what im reading

Then why did you vote LC?

bc i don't trust that quin voted for himself

Dom is my new favorite.


@Golden, I don't know if I agree. I'd assume a passive power like a vest wouldn't be counteracted by a block. Also being blocked and NK'd the same night seems unlikely.

It did something for me - something it was specifically designed to do for me, I guess. That's fine, I don't feel the need to broadcast people's roles.

I do trust Jack though.

"Damning case". Yeah.

It's OK, Dom, I'm totally lost too.

sig wrote:linki: Quin has a damning case on MP, this has nothing to do with Jack?

The damning case is that you are ishmael, sig.

Dom wrote:now i'm probably being a pissy little bitch that no one likes when i say this but

what the hell is anyone even talking about anymore?

You have launched yourself to the top of my scum list with your last two posts.

Mi hope a baby eats you tonight.