The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:07 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:35 pm also, hey, you said you'd be willing to get lynched for PoE purposes how is my viewpoint any different than yours other than the fact that I'm actually following through??

Says the guy that has waited to place a vote towards the end so that he may save himself.

If you really wanted to follow through like you are alleging, then why not vote yourself?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:07 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:35 pm also, hey, you said you'd be willing to get lynched for PoE purposes how is my viewpoint any different than yours other than the fact that I'm actually following through??

Says the guy that has waited to place a vote towards the end so that he may save himself.

If you really wanted to follow through like you are alleging, then why not vote yourself?

Spoiler: show

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:16 pm Oh and Kyle, I apologize if I'm coming off as antagonistic and/or judgmental- that's not meant to be the case, at any point in the game. I do often forget that people don't play with the same logic that I play with, and it can farkle my frustration pipes.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:23 pm how.... what. where did the siren come from

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:20 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:07 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:35 pm also, hey, you said you'd be willing to get lynched for PoE purposes how is my viewpoint any different than yours other than the fact that I'm actually following through??

Says the guy that has waited to place a vote towards the end so that he may save himself.

If you really wanted to follow through like you are alleging, then why not vote yourself?

what are you even talking about dude. I always vote late.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:23 pm how.... what. where did the siren come from

You clicked the siren button.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:23 pm how.... what. where did the siren come from

You clicked the siren button.

what?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:28 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:23 pm how.... what. where did the siren come from

You clicked the siren button.

what?

You clicked the siren button.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:44 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:28 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:23 pm how.... what. where did the siren come from

You clicked the siren button.

what?

You clicked the siren button.

Huh??

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:52 pm After today we’ll have 9 players left. I’ll be surprised if there’s more than a single baddie left in that group. 4 of the 9 are still on their first lives, I believe. These are favorable numbers, but no guarantee of victory. We still may need to catch one more mafia, probably an Even. If the game does not end after today we’ll need to POE that last fool out of here. My leading suspect remains DDL. I can tinfoil some others though, and nothing is certain. Input from everybody would be appreciated. If you have any reason to clear or suspect anybody, please say so. We’re entering the end game phase.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:52 pm After today we’ll have 9 players left. I’ll be surprised if there’s more than a single baddie left in that group. 4 of the 9 are still on their first lives, I believe. These are favorable numbers, but no guarantee of victory. We still may need to catch one more mafia, probably an Even. If the game does not end after today we’ll need to POE that last fool out of here. My leading suspect remains DDL. I can tinfoil some others though, and nothing is certain. Input from everybody would be appreciated. If you have any reason to clear or suspect anybody, please say so. We’re entering the end game phase.

DDL is very low on my suspect list. I'd rather lynch a low poster before him.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:54 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:52 pm After today we’ll have 9 players left. I’ll be surprised if there’s more than a single baddie left in that group. 4 of the 9 are still on their first lives, I believe. These are favorable numbers, but no guarantee of victory. We still may need to catch one more mafia, probably an Even. If the game does not end after today we’ll need to POE that last fool out of here. My leading suspect remains DDL. I can tinfoil some others though, and nothing is certain. Input from everybody would be appreciated. If you have any reason to clear or suspect anybody, please say so. We’re entering the end game phase.

DDL is very low on my suspect list. I'd rather lynch a low poster before him.

What changed? He has been on your potential lynch list since before we merged, and I just looked through your ISO and somewhere around N15 you did a GTH read list where you called him good??

Why art thou a DDL defendor?

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:54 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:52 pm After today we’ll have 9 players left. I’ll be surprised if there’s more than a single baddie left in that group. 4 of the 9 are still on their first lives, I believe. These are favorable numbers, but no guarantee of victory. We still may need to catch one more mafia, probably an Even. If the game does not end after today we’ll need to POE that last fool out of here. My leading suspect remains DDL. I can tinfoil some others though, and nothing is certain. Input from everybody would be appreciated. If you have any reason to clear or suspect anybody, please say so. We’re entering the end game phase.

DDL is very low on my suspect list. I'd rather lynch a low poster before him.

What changed? He has been on your potential lynch list since before we merged, and I just looked through your ISO and somewhere around N15 you did a GTH read list where you called him good??

Why art thou a DDL defendor?

because I think he's town are you even listening

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:55 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:46 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:09 pm hey

who wants to join my voting block?

What are you thinking?

scum killed my dad SVS so i need someone to replace her

responsibilities include being in consistent agreement on the best lynch candidate, having unwavering trust in one another and being super passive aggressive to anyone not in the circle

currently scouting sloonei for this position but...stay tuned

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:39 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:00 pm - Dies

Does this mean some baddie thinks I look like a civ?

Took 14 days but I finally accomplished it

This was DDL's reaction to being nightkilled. Eh. I could see this as a staged response if I stare deep into the tunnel.

The day before, when we had our stunted poll, he was one of the few people to cast an actual vote for sprityo:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:13 pm [VOTE: Sprityo] aubergine

First we all agree his activity post death dropped a lot.

Second, I'm willing to policy lynch him on that bastard role claim. If he's telling the truth we at least get rid of a role that could be bad for town, so it's a win-win situation.

I love neither of these reasons. "We all agree his activity dropped" is not a strong justification. We all agree on an observable fact, sure, but that's not something that should be alignment-indicative.
And policy lynching him for maybe holding a bastard role is also weaksauce. I get that this was a bastard poll, but that's not an invitation to cast weak votes.

His real suspect this day was colonialbob, and he continued to push cbob's lynch a little bit the following day, but that was Day 15, aka the Sloonei v. Kyle showdown. DDL parked himself comfortably in the Lynch Sloonei camp that whole day.

Other than that I don't really see any strong suspects from DDL that would merit a nightkill on those grounds. He went after sig a little bit, and cast a vote for LoRab, but she was Strex.

That this kill came on Night 14 might adds to my consideration that this was a self-kill. Day 14, the day of the stunted poll, disrupted what had been a mounting campaign to lynch one of myself, Scotty, or Kyle. It's easy to see the writing on the wall for Evens there, and if there's any last-ditch move that they could pull to score some credibility for their eventual final member, they might want to go for it. There had been a little bit of mounting paranoia about the players with both lives remaining (which would have included DDL at this time), so the sacrifice of a single life might actually stave off some scrutiny and buy him time in a backwards sort of way, to say nothing of the obvious credibility that comes with being nightkilled.
It does not appear that the discussion about this as a potential strategy had picked up before DDL's death, although this was something that we discussed early on in the Cerberus thread, so the idea was at least out there.

This theory requires me to look deep into the tunnel and do some mental gymnastics, but I don't think it's impossible. Given my perception of DDL's interactions with Kyle and vice versa, I still feel like this is an angle at least worth considering. I will continue to listen to any other arguments though. I'm far from certain about this.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:43 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:51 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:35 amWho does your gut tell you is the killer?

Based on the treatment of the case against me, Scotty. If it's not Scotty then I think it's likely SD and maybe also you? idk.

What are your thoughts on DDL?

wasn't your case was entirely based on a potential tie to me? I actually haven't spent much time or energy paying attention to things players outside of our group of five have said or done recently. i'd have to review him. do you think his behavior regarding my lynch could be indicative or opportunism

Not necessarily, though that’s a large part of it. He does show some seemingly inconsistent behavior toward you, regardless of your alignment, He also seemed to be a passive supporter of my lynch, lending support to the paranoia of others without adding his own thoughts and such. Then there’s the matter of his Night 14 kill that intrigues me.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:38 pm The vote for Kyle above is kind of a sequel for the last Kyle vote tho.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:23 pm how.... what. where did the siren come from

You clicked the siren button.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:40 am This lynch feels too resigned. Not that I've done much to point it in any other direction. Still, I sense a complacency that ought not be sensed.

So thus, I throw a vote on someone I feel has been complacent during the Kyle-lynch countdown.

[VOTE: colonialbob] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:37 am

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:40 am This lynch feels too resigned. Not that I've done much to point it in any other direction. Still, I sense a complacency that ought not be sensed.

So thus, I throw a vote on someone I feel has been complacent during the Kyle-lynch countdown.

[VOTE: colonialbob] aubergine

The only way colonialbob killed Scotty was if he could kill across tribes, and he couldn't, because he was Charlie Night 2. colonialbob was on Cerberus Night 8 when sprityo was killed. The only way colonialbob killed sprityo is if his second role could kill across tribes, and even then, it leaves Scotty's killer unaccounted for.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:35 am Colonialbob is among the least likely Even candidates IMO. He’s someone I’d actively campaign to save right now.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:09 am What makes you say there's a recruit?

You can answer after you rest.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:06 am I'm also bothered that Sloonei spent more posts explaining his low activity in this game than every other player combined.

And his activity wasn't even that bad.

One theory could be that he cares a whole lot about his image than he should, because hes bad.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:10 pm please make sure i die before and not on or after page 69, :[ that's the sex number and if i die on that page my soul will be sent to hell

DH wrote:FWIW if he flips bad (or looks to have flipped bad) I wouldn't clear Dom straight away. LC and Dom are smart enough players to get that cred and run with it.

Also, if they're both bad then this ploy is too clever by half. Since the reason no one saw LC's slip before Dom pointed it out would be that we had no idea what the other tribe's name would be, and the only way to find him pointing out the name as suspect would be if you also knew the name.

nutella wrote:Lmao yeah not buying LC's explanation. Total bs that the hosts would do anything like that.

Also the point that Dom might have known the name as well in order to catch the slip -- yeah they could both be bad, though I think more likely on opposing teams than a ploy like DH suggests. If Dom is bad and also knew the name that's an easy way for him to get cred for getting an opposing baddie.

DH wrote:I think they're on the same team rather than different teams. LC is making his lynch too easy by offering the worst possible excuse for a slip that no one should have been able to catch and Dom comes in and spots it straight out. They want LC lynched so he can buff his role up and Dom can get some cred.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:34 pm Kyle was not haiku'd on the day that I was lynched.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:34 pm Kyle was not haiku'd on the day that I was lynched.

o really? I must have missed it.

I also have to go to work so I won’t be around either. Godspeed Kyle, I hope you are bad.