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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:32 pm
by Hyena
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:30 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:28 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:23 pm It's been a while since I've seen something so wolfy as someone copy and pasting a 6 player read-list and reusing that a day later.
I think it may be twtbaw and/or he just hadn't read anything so just restated what his existing reads had been. Idk, don't know the guy
THIRD TIME I HAVN"T READ THE IN BETWEEN ARGGGGG
also is EoD in an hour and a half then clarification
Yes, an hour and a half.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:32 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
iaafr wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:29 pm From the 5 posts of TL thay I’ve read he seemed townie.

I suspect this sort of thing happens to him a lot when he plays outside his home community but who am I to stop you from ignoring the obvious scum in order to kill sweet TL instead.
who's the obvious scum?
Drago and to a lesser extent Texas

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:33 pm
by Benson
@112 what happened when you ISO'd TLib?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:33 pm
by iaafr
list of potential somewhat deepwolves i dont trust who fit together somewhat:

pawn/epignosis/hyena

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:34 pm
by iaafr
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:32 pm
iaafr wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:29 pm From the 5 posts of TL thay I’ve read he seemed townie.

I suspect this sort of thing happens to him a lot when he plays outside his home community but who am I to stop you from ignoring the obvious scum in order to kill sweet TL instead.
who's the obvious scum?
Drago and to a lesser extent Texas
yea drago feels hard to wagon

i said kill drago like 3 times yesterday and people dont follow me

but its easy to wagon michelle and TL

i normally dont use these kinds of reads but the contrast is really stark

back onto drago it is

[v]dragomir[/v]

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:34 pm
by iaafr
[VOTE: dragomir] aubergine

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:34 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
iaafr wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:32 pm
iaafr wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:29 pm From the 5 posts of TL thay I’ve read he seemed townie.

I suspect this sort of thing happens to him a lot when he plays outside his home community but who am I to stop you from ignoring the obvious scum in order to kill sweet TL instead.
who's the obvious scum?
Drago and to a lesser extent Texas
yea drago feels hard to wagon

i said kill drago like 3 times yesterday and people dont follow me

but its easy to wagon michelle and TL

i normally dont use these kinds of reads but the contrast is really stark

back onto drago it is

[v]dragomir[/v]
It’s too bad we weren’t on at the same time maybe if we’d harmonized people would’ve listened

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:34 pm
by 112
oh if that diagram actually represents nute's reads, i agree with what she's thinking more than i said earlier

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:34 pm
by juliets
I just finished reading TL's ISO. I'm having a little bit of trouble understanding some of the posts. Overall it looks like they haven't done a lot of poking or prodding though they did address hyena as having the same style as he did in G8 where he was wolf (don't know if that's true or not). The reads list didn't progress at all from the first time they posted it. Do they normally play this way? I don't see things that cause me to read them as town or scum, so I land on null. What am I missing? What are some of the rest of you seeing that are voting for them? Or maybe this question has been answered, if so just point me back.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm
by 112
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:33 pm @112 what happened when you ISO'd TLib?
tonal pings, empty posts, forced reads

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
112 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:33 pm @112 what happened when you ISO'd TLib?
tonal pings, empty posts, forced reads
Show me.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:36 pm
by Benson
What happens with a tie on this site?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:36 pm
by Hyena
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
The more, the better.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:36 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
And thus the triad is broken and I can freely place my vote. Out of TL, Michelle, and Drago, Drago is by far the scummiest imo.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:36 pm What happens with a tie on this site?
Nobody knows. It’s never happened before.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
by Hyena
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:36 pm And thus the triad is broken and I can freely place my vote. Out of TL, Michelle, and Drago, Drago is by far the scummiest imo.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine
Thank you, thank you.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:38 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?
Come again?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
by nutella
Usually randomized unless the host specifies otherwise or unless there are unseen vote manipulation factors

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
by vanity.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:36 pm What happens with a tie on this site?
Nobody knows. It’s never happened before.
alright let's do it and make history :)

time to make ties like kneeneighbor

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Wait I’m getting my way? Yippee!

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
by 112
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm
112 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:33 pm @112 what happened when you ISO'd TLib?
tonal pings, empty posts, forced reads
Show me.
i don't really care about making you happy rn

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:38 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?
Come again?
Who would you want in your ideal 6 way? :v

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
by Hyena
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?
No low posters. (e.g. Rej, Nova, DFar, etc.) I want to see people voting on people who have been active.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
by Benson
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm Usually randomized unless the host specifies otherwise or unless there are unseen vote manipulation factors
*cough* TMI *cough* ;)

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm Usually randomized unless the host specifies otherwise or unless there are unseen vote manipulation factors
Or unless the host is a masochist. :kadaj:

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:40 pm
by juliets
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:44 pm
juliets wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:36 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:27 pm
juliets wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:15 pm
Texas Cloverleaf wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:04 pm @juliets people seem to think you're more likely town, who's your top two suspects if I were to take a look at someone specifically
I just dropped my suspicion of Tony so that's no longer in play.

I am concerned about novaselinever and Rej at this point but there is not much to go on. I'm also concerned about Nanook but that may also be because he hasn't had a lot to say from what I remember. I don't understand why he (or Eva) followed LLD's vote. LLD led him astray from what I remember in the champs finale and this reminds me of that. I will take a look at him shortly.
Wait, why did you completely drop the suspicion? I mean, his responses were okay, but it didn't seem like anything that should completely rectify his wolfy thread presence.

Wrt Nanook: I'm concerned about his over-emphasis that he isn't going to "play" early on because of the high player count. He keeps restating that fact; all the while he's in the thread and interacting ALL the time anyways, so it isn't even accurate.
Benson I just did a long post about Tony's responses to my accusations. The things I pointed out he had a good response for, most of them were things he pointed out were jokes and as I looked at them again I could see that they probably were. Maybe there are other reasons I should consider him that weren't in my ISO that others brought out. Why do you see him as wolfy?

Also, I need to go to my appointment in a few minutes and I won't be back until around 4:00 ugh, two hours from EOD. I dread it.

Also also, I just read through 112 again and I don't see me voting for her day 1. I will try to look at Nanook in the next few minutes.
I think TSP is wolfy because he's playing a very safe and quiet game. He hasn't said or done anything controversial, and that's how a lot of wolves play. I do get that that may be his meta but I can't move past it right now. I also hated how there was no follow up with his vote on you. It's like he never had an actual read he was trying to solve.

I realize I'm in a tunnel and I'm gonna move on for now because my case isn't substantial enough atm
Thanks Benson I appreciate your thoughts. I am not totally convinced he is town, I just don't feel there is enough there to leave my vote on him. I still don't have a good reason why he voted Pawn but I don't think he's been back to see my question to him about that.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:43 pm
by vanity.
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm Usually randomized unless the host specifies otherwise or unless there are unseen vote manipulation factors
*cough* TMI *cough* ;)
yeah uh

not sure why that came to her mind

she's probably still v tho

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:44 pm
by Benson
112 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:33 pm @112 what happened when you ISO'd TLib?
tonal pings, empty posts, forced reads
Maybe.

But I also suspect you're just saying whatever you need to get someone else lynched over yourself. :ponder:

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:44 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:38 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?
Come again?
Who would you want in your ideal 6 way? :v
I guess Courtney Cox, Aubrey Plaza, Becky Lynch, Adele, Nancy Pelosi and me.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm
by vanity.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:44 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:38 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?
Come again?
Who would you want in your ideal 6 way? :v
I guess Courtney Cox, Aubrey Plaza, Becky Lynch, Adele, Nancy Pelosi and me.
what on earth

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
Okay lets think might vote for Dragomir but will ISO first now that am home on not using a phone no offense but this site is really hard to use on mobile.

Monica Gif
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?
No low posters. (e.g. Rej, Nova, DFar, etc.) I want to see people voting on people who have been active.
Note for future: if hyena is scum, very likely a partner in the low posters.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:47 pm
by Benson
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm Okay lets think might vote for Dragomir but will ISO first now that am home on not using a phone no offense but this site is really hard to use on mobile.

Monica Gif
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This man is trying his best with the AtE. Gotta respect it.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:47 pm
by nutella
vanity. wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:43 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm Usually randomized unless the host specifies otherwise or unless there are unseen vote manipulation factors
*cough* TMI *cough* ;)
yeah uh

not sure why that came to her mind

she's probably still v tho
Roles that affect vote tallies are common on this site (and in both alignments) so it's a typical possibility to consider when creating a tie

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:47 pm
by Hyena
[mention]Trustworthy Liberal[/mention]
You should place a vote. :P

That goes for [mention]DFaraday[/mention] , [mention]novaselinenever[/mention] , and [mention]Rej[/mention], too, even though they haven't been active.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:47 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm Okay lets think might vote for Dragomir but will ISO first now that am home on not using a phone no offense but this site is really hard to use on mobile.

Monica Gif
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Fire Emblem has cuter green haired girls fyi.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:49 pm
by Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?
No low posters. (e.g. Rej, Nova, DFar, etc.) I want to see people voting on people who have been active.
Note for future: if hyena is scum, very likely a partner in the low posters.
:thumbsup:

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:49 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?
No low posters. (e.g. Rej, Nova, DFar, etc.) I want to see people voting on people who have been active.
Note for future: if hyena is scum, very likely a partner in the low posters.
Frankly like 1/5 of the game is low posters. And with a game this size there is almost a guarantee that one of them is.

I'd almost bet two low posters are with a scum Hyena. My only hesitation there is that he could be purposefully baiting for this as scum.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:49 pm
by Benson
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:47 pm
vanity. wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:43 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm Usually randomized unless the host specifies otherwise or unless there are unseen vote manipulation factors
*cough* TMI *cough* ;)
yeah uh

not sure why that came to her mind

she's probably still v tho
Roles that affect vote tallies are common on this site (and in both alignments) so it's a typical possibility to consider when creating a tie
So we should definitely definitely make the lead wagon have a few vote cushion to avoid shenanigans?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:49 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Tough crowd.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:49 pm
by iaafr
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:44 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:38 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?
Come again?
Who would you want in your ideal 6 way? :v
I guess Courtney Cox, Aubrey Plaza, Becky Lynch, Adele, Nancy Pelosi and me.
never lynching this guy tbh

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:50 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:47 pm @Trustworthy Liberal
You should place a vote. :P

That goes for @DFaraday , @novaselinenever , and @Rej, too, even though they haven't been active.
Hyena if you remember i am very reluctent to vote every since it got me killed in my first forum game thats why am ready the Dragomir person first

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:50 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:47 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm Okay lets think might vote for Dragomir but will ISO first now that am home on not using a phone no offense but this site is really hard to use on mobile.

Monica Gif
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Fire Emblem has cuter green haired girls fyi.
Monika is meant to be creepy rather than cute tbf.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:50 pm
by Elephant
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:44 pm Is Benson still looking for Elephant seeds or what?
Image
https://www.bcseeds.com/product/elephant-bud/

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:50 pm
by Benson
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:49 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:39 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm I think if we try hard enough we can make this a 6 way tie.
Who would you suggest for falling within that group?
No low posters. (e.g. Rej, Nova, DFar, etc.) I want to see people voting on people who have been active.
Note for future: if hyena is scum, very likely a partner in the low posters.
Frankly like 1/5 of the game is low posters. And with a game this size there is almost a guarantee that one of them is.

I'd almost bet two low posters are with a scum Hyena. My only hesitation there is that he could be purposefully baiting for this as scum.
You're that sure Hyena's scum? How much do you know him outside this game?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:50 pm
by Pawn Lelouch
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:49 pm Tough crowd.
More just questioning putting Nancy Pelosi in there considering the age gap with everyone else there.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:51 pm
by Benson
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:49 pm Tough crowd.
I was loling hard

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:51 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:47 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:46 pm Okay lets think might vote for Dragomir but will ISO first now that am home on not using a phone no offense but this site is really hard to use on mobile.

Monica Gif
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Fire Emblem has cuter green haired girls fyi.
Don't like her cause of looks if you remember lost a bet with a friend so that is why am using Monica