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Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:05 pm
by Hally
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:05 pm In that case I’m fine parking here: [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
what about tony?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:07 pm
by 112
:pirate:

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:08 pm
by Hally
i really seem to have a lot of power to create wagons which is weird because i feel like im not that trusted rn?

like werent you tinfoiling me ash? but you’re just sheeping me with no reservations?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:08 pm
by Ash Lael
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:05 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:05 pm In that case I’m fine parking here: [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
what about tony?
There’s 48 hours in a phase. I think LC deserves attention.

Tony’s still my top scum read, but there’s more than one wolf in the game.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:09 pm
by Hally
fair nuf

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:10 pm
by Ash Lael
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:08 pm i really seem to have a lot of power to create wagons which is weird because i feel like im not that trusted rn?

like werent you tinfoiling me ash? but you’re just sheeping me with no reservations?
I believe in hunting in packs. I wasn’t able to get LC to answer questions yesterday acting on my own, seems like a good opportunity to put a bit of pressure on him and see what happens.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:11 pm
by Hally
is this gonna be the game where ppl sheep me and then im wrong and then everyone is like “hally was wrong let’s kill them”

or will i be right and actually force scum to shoot me. stay tuned to find out

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:11 pm
by Hally
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:10 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:08 pm i really seem to have a lot of power to create wagons which is weird because i feel like im not that trusted rn?

like werent you tinfoiling me ash? but you’re just sheeping me with no reservations?
I believe in hunting in packs. I wasn’t able to get LC to answer questions yesterday acting on my own, seems like a good opportunity to put a bit of pressure on him and see what happens.
alright

lets see where this goes

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:12 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
tutuu doc pretty obvious, shoulda been docced tbh

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:13 pm
by Ash Lael
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:11 pm is this gonna be the game where ppl sheep me and then im wrong and then everyone is like “hally was wrong let’s kill them”

or will i be right and actually force scum to shoot me. stay tuned to find out
See this is why I asked first.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:13 pm
by Hally
am i the only one who just didnt notice

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:14 pm
by Hally
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:13 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:11 pm is this gonna be the game where ppl sheep me and then im wrong and then everyone is like “hally was wrong let’s kill them”

or will i be right and actually force scum to shoot me. stay tuned to find out
See this is why I asked first.
i have so much pressure :sigh:

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:15 pm
by Hally
wilgy is also an acceptable kill but atm i think lc is more likely to be a hit

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:18 pm
by Hally
i welcome someone else to make some sort of push on someone btw. dont let me have all the fun

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:21 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Taking a slank day as noted right now try to kil me if you dare

Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:23 pm
by Epignosis
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:26 pm me: “lc is mafia”
everyone:
Not exactly fair.

Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:25 pm
by Hally
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:23 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:26 pm me: “lc is mafia”
everyone:
Not exactly fair.
you are the exception :p

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:26 pm
by Hally
or were

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:35 pm
by Epignosis
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:37 pm
by Hally
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:35 pm [VOTE: TSP] aubergine
por que

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:38 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:35 pm [VOTE: TSP] aubergine
por que
I assume because I dared him.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:39 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:26 pmor were
Concerning sentiment tbh

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:39 pm
by Epignosis
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:38 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:35 pm [VOTE: TSP] aubergine
por que
I assume because I dared him.
Feels good man. Feels good.

Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:42 pm
by Epignosis
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:54 pm kinda feelin hally wilgy ngl
This blows.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:52 pm
by Ash Lael
Super dumb read, Hally is town because if she couldn't spot Radishes as joat she definitely wouldn't spot tutuu as doc.

(yes I know wolves have partners)

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:54 pm
by Ash Lael
Epi, talk to me about your tony sus. Same reasons as me or different ones?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:56 pm
by Epignosis
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:54 pm Epi, talk to me about your tony sus. Same reasons as me or different ones?
Given that I don't know what your reasons are, I can't answer to that. What are your reasons?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:02 pm
by Arete
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:55 pm Did you guys not think her claim was serious

I did that’s why I ignored scumreads on her lol
her claim was ~modconfirmed fake, I was basically assuming that she was VT trying to bait a nightkill

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:02 pm
by Ash Lael
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:56 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:54 pm Epi, talk to me about your tony sus. Same reasons as me or different ones?
Given that I don't know what your reasons are, I can't answer to that. What are your reasons?
Oh, I had assumed you had backread more. Interesting then you're getting it just off his last few posts.

I think his tone is off and there was a read he made on your slot that I think reeks of TMI.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:05 pm
by Arete
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:05 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:54 pm kinda feelin hally wilgy ngl
This blows.
False it was good but I changed my mind and now think it’s bad

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:05 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:59 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:57 pm I mean did you read her reaction to finding out it was no claims

VT not usually that worried about it ime
yes well i don’t pr hunt as town
I do kek

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:05 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Actually I think it’s good again

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:05 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:01 pm nook what do you think of my lc push?
He’s in my POE so

I’m good with it

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:05 pm
by Epignosis
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:02 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:56 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:54 pm Epi, talk to me about your tony sus. Same reasons as me or different ones?
Given that I don't know what your reasons are, I can't answer to that. What are your reasons?
Oh, I had assumed you had backread more. Interesting then you're getting it just off his last few posts.

I think his tone is off and there was a read he made on your slot that I think reeks of TMI.
I skimmed and Tony seems more eager to sow chaos than figure things out. That's the impression I got.

Linking Hally with Wilgy is trash.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:07 pm
by Hally
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:52 pm Super dumb read, Hally is town because if she couldn't spot Radishes as joat she definitely wouldn't spot tutuu as doc.

(yes I know wolves have partners)
listen. i wasnt itt for his softs and then i died :why:

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:08 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Arete wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:55 pm Did you guys not think her claim was serious

I did that’s why I ignored scumreads on her lol
her claim was ~modconfirmed fake, I was basically assuming that she was VT trying to bait a nightkill
Idk I thought she was >rand something

YMMV

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:08 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Hally wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:25 pm tony, you don’t really seem like you want to kill wilgy today. is that fair to say? who do you want to kill instead if you could pick anyone?
This post was made when it looked like Wilgy was the likely counterwagon.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:08 pm
by Ash Lael
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:07 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:52 pm Super dumb read, Hally is town because if she couldn't spot Radishes as joat she definitely wouldn't spot tutuu as doc.

(yes I know wolves have partners)
listen. i wasnt itt for his softs and then i died :why:
Ok ok you can still be a wolf if you insist. :hug:

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:09 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Hally wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:57 pm didn’t mac say wilgy is a very good scum player and wouldn’t slank so much as scum? because this is hard core slanking
Then there’s this later which ended up keeping Wilgy from being the cw

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:10 pm
by Epignosis
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:08 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:25 pm tony, you don’t really seem like you want to kill wilgy today. is that fair to say? who do you want to kill instead if you could pick anyone?
This post was made when it looked like Wilgy was the likely counterwagon.
So somebody with 17 posts versus somebody with 2?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:12 pm
by Epignosis
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:09 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:57 pm didn’t mac say wilgy is a very good scum player and wouldn’t slank so much as scum? because this is hard core slanking
Then there’s this later which ended up keeping Wilgy from being the cw
I'm more interesting in understanding why Mac's opinion about Wilgy is relevant here to anyone.

You all know that

1) Mac isn't in this and
2) Mac says utter bullshit to advance whatever Mac (sober or otherwise) wishes to advance

Right?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:16 pm
by Ash Lael
The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:17 pm
by Long Con
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:12 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:09 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:57 pm didn’t mac say wilgy is a very good scum player and wouldn’t slank so much as scum? because this is hard core slanking
Then there’s this later which ended up keeping Wilgy from being the cw
I'm more interesting in understanding why Mac's opinion about Wilgy is relevant here to anyone.

You all know that

1) Mac isn't in this and
2) Mac says utter bullshit to advance whatever Mac (sober or otherwise) wishes to advance

Right?
Agreed.

Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:17 pm
by Long Con
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:31 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:26 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:24 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:16 pm actually considering pushing lc over wilgy next day, which is... not where i was like 30 min ago
I would vote Long Con, yes.
did you iso him? i know you have more experience with him than me so im curious about your read there
This is one I skimmed. I saw he said he would vote for me, so I took a peek.
Long Con wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:56 pm
dunya wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:56 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:53 pm Getting rid of low posters is good town play

I’m here to preach not to argue
Not good Day 1 play.
i agree, so why were you voting for me?
I liked Michelle's case.
I'd be interested to know what Long Con liked about Michelle's "case." It amounted to circular reasoning and "too many wolves."
Michelle's case for reference.

I, like Michelle, dislike an early certainty of reads. I didn't like how dunya was throwing shade at Michelle for trying a different style, it's a cheap shot, and I don't think delving into something like that, especially early, is particularly thoughtful scumhunting. I thought Michelle's criticism of dunya's "holier than thou tone" post in response to Ash was astute. At the end, Michelle challenges us to find reasons to townread dunya. Reading back over dunya's posts with that in mind, I could see them being scummy.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:17 pm
by Hally
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:08 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:25 pm tony, you don’t really seem like you want to kill wilgy today. is that fair to say? who do you want to kill instead if you could pick anyone?
This post was made when it looked like Wilgy was the likely counterwagon.
what about that post indicates im teamed with wilgy? i kinda struggle to believe this is a genuine take

Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:17 pm
by Long Con
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:10 pm @Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks
112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. :shrug2: Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:19 pm
by Epignosis
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:16 pm The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.
You would have to convince me that Hally is bad. Can you do that?

Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:20 pm
by Ash Lael
Long Con wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:17 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:10 pm @Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks
112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. :shrug2: Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least
When did you start townreading me?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:21 pm
by Ash Lael
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:19 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:16 pm The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.
You would have to convince me that Hally is bad. Can you do that?
No, I think Hally is town.

I don't think this is the world. It just struck me as a reasonable thought to have.