The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:26 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:25 pm New poll.

Favourite spread:

-Strawberry jam
-Marmalade
-Peanut Butter
-Marmite
-Vegemite

...think that covers it.

PB.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:47 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:47 pm I've not voted yet so I haven't seen the poll. Who is in the 4th slot on Nutella, Jack, and/or me?

Thar be scum. Bet me.

Yay! Someone else ascribes to the "fourth is scum" theory of vote trains!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:50 pm Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:51 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:50 pm Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

What do you think about sloonei's point from a few posts ago?

Ah, didn't see that post. I can see it.

I've also said the same thing myself several times as town [citation needed but I think I have]. I might could do it this game, but I wouldn't have time to follow up if someone DID tell me what to do!

Some part of me realizes that not much good comes from 'tell me what to do' though, so I do see it now.
Is that why everyone is voting there? For a point that was made only after everyone already voted there?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:57 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:53 pm I could maybe lynch Mac. Idk.

Linki: But what if we haven't read any of those reasons but Jay's? Checkmate, athiests.

Or even Jay's, for that matter. nutella

Some of us have only read 2% of the thread. Instead of looking for reasons, I read Mister Radishes' ISO.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:29 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:04 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:50 pm Upon further reflection of ISOs both of these wagons are shiiiiiiiiiiiny turds.

Nutella I can see why people suspect her. The interactions starting when Mac wagoned on look pretty bad. But lynching nutella D1 after she gets defensive over some tunneling is wonky.

I have no idea why anyone would vote Master Radishes.

This post looks bogus.

Both wagons are shiny turds. But I understand why people suspect nutella. Here's a reason why I understand. But lynching her is wonky. But. Then the sentence about Radish is more strongly stated than would seem reasonable. No idea. Anyone. Dramatic

Wozzit called? Stream of consciousness. Thassit.

Since that post I have at least been told why someone would vote master radishes. This post was entirely based on ISOs

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:32 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 pm Of those names, I’m not sure one in particular stands out. I think Sig’s vote was the most egregious, but his macro play of all those names has been the greenest. At the moment I’m not entirely sure where I’d place a vote (and obviously can’t anyway), but GTH I’d say Sabie. Also not a fan of Mac’s play on this – inconsistent and never landed on the wagon or, conversely, showed progression away from it. Just blew on the sparks a bit.

I dunno, I was suspicious of Sig for a reason I think. Let me look back.

Ah, yes, it was his crappity crap reasons for still wanting to lynch nutella after Jack recanted. He overcompenisated for his position by throwing a bunch of bad reasons in with the good.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:41 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:27 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:29 pm Wozzit called? Stream of consciousness. Thassit.

Since that post I have at least been told why someone would vote master radishes. This post was entirely based on ISOs

What'd you see in the ISO before you were told why?

Reasonable D1 suspicions. Sincerity.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:32 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:28 pm Can anyone give me a run down of Radishes Meta?

When we played in Inception he was the architect and Indy, played really safe and indecisive but still kept an air of he knew what was happening. Which made choosing to lynch him or evenstar (mafia) that much more difficult

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:36 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:15 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:12 pm SVS asking Radishes where he picked up the word “baddie” should not be made into a thing, please.

Why not

In the sense that we should dissect SVS for asking it. She’s been away for a while and was genuinely curious about the usage of an old vocabulary. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I’ll allow your angle about Radishes slipping though.

Wish I could get that kind of relief when I say something of no significance.

I’ll remember this for later, if not a later game sloonei

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:13 am Cool I’m caught up

JaggedJimmyJay you said that I was nominated for mvp for a reason. Now I totally could’ve nominated myself but I didn’t (so thank you to whoever did that) but your statement for that was hollow in that I play mafia my way and that’s how I get results. Same as everyone. So if you want MVP material you’re just gonna have to wait for it because it’ll come with time.

What’d Mac say in Inception to the scum team? “Sprityo is a crucial mislynch” although I like to think of myself more like a snowball

Enough about me though-

I don’t care about this nanook sig radishes kerfuffle that happened between pages 6 and 10 roughly, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say jack is mafia this game. Just pure gut. I have no reason other than I think it.

Also Dom is here, huzzah! I enjoyed playing with Dom in Inception and can’t wait for another game with him. Same to Dizzy, I love their zanyness.

Jay is also 100% town. Don’t ask me why

That’s my lukewarm takes, Jack bad, jay good

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:52 pm me Radishes Tony and Sig should all vote speedchuck to make a 3 way tie

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:47 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:46 pm I chose to spend time with my wife tonight instead of playing mafia.

Why?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:38 pm ColinIsCool green
Dom green
Dragomir green
Dyslexicon green
Epignosis green
JaggedJimmyJay green
juliets green
Michelle green
sabie12 green
Sloonei green
tedxtr green
TonyStarkPrime green
Tranq green

G-Man red
Jackofhearts2005 red
MacDougall red
Master Radishes red
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0 red
S~V~S red
sig red
speedchuck red
Turnip Head red

I’m comfortable with this personal GTH

By default I put anyone I had no opinion on due to lack of voting as green

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:01 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:26 pm Independent of all this: how do we all feel about master radishes?

not having much on him, i don't think there's been anything AI up to this post from him really

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:02 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:37 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:25 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:16 pm Like am I crazy here or is this a potential slip.

MacDougall
Epignosis

sig, what are you saying is a slip?

I was saying radish using term baddie could ne a slip that's he has BTSC with an older player who uses term

this is the closest thing to a town derp thought that's been posted in the thread thus far

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:48 pm [VOTE: Master Radishes ] aubergine

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:34 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:42 pm Wait.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pm Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

This is random and way too full for so early a point in the game. Some of the names listed had barely posted.

[VOTE: Vote MacDougall] aubergine

...

Yeah, I like this.

I'm going to head to bed now.

Why do I read this as a wolf that came out of wolf chat and decided to ISO low posters because probably nobody focused on em and it’s easy to fake contribution by doing that

Feeling content with my vote

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:06 pm G-man should quake in fear

Radishes tremor to my scum read on you please

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:57 am I honestly think you’re town and the push on you kind of makes me suspicious of the people on you.

G-Man has been a point of contention ever since day one, so has Radishes. Some people have expressed their reasoning for scum reading G-Man and yet nobody’s really pushing it, and the fact you’re being pushed over him, especially when people are claiming he ain’t done anything makes me sick to my stomach.

Lynch people that are scum.

Also, the case sig presented (which seems like the main reason people are voting you) is easily refutable by you asking in one of your posts “yo sig why are you voting me?” If you were Saitama you’d have known you silenced him so that question makes no sense. I am honestly surprised nobody pointed this out.

Especially going as far as to mention him, which meets a level of expectation of “why hasn’t he tried to engage with me / talk to me” which he couldn’t have done in one post before reaching a scum read on you. First ask questions, then reach a conclusion, and you having that thought is the closest thing to an easy derp clear like sig did on Day 1.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:28 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:32 am Hold on. If Mac flips wolf, Ted may have just outed himself as his teammate.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:48 am In Inception his posts stuck out like a sore thumb and he was forcing interactions with his scum buds that were honestly the closest thing to open wolfing ever since day one.

In here he just posted his thoughts and didn’t force anything. His questions in Inception also sucked and he had a general agenda of looking townie, whereas in here he does seem to go at his own pace.

'His posts stuck out...' - yeah, for you reading in retrospect, sure. If they were that obvious, why didn't he get lynched right away?

And also, context is necessary. Inception was a game Mac had invited a lot of his new Champs friends to, and he presumably had more time to play. I'm not at all surprised he's playing differently here regardless of alignment.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:57 am I honestly think you’re town and the push on you kind of makes me suspicious of the people on you.

G-Man has been a point of contention ever since day one, so has Radishes. Some people have expressed their reasoning for scum reading G-Man and yet nobody’s really pushing it, and the fact you’re being pushed over him, especially when people are claiming he ain’t done anything makes me sick to my stomach.

Lynch people that are scum.

Also, the case sig presented (which seems like the main reason people are voting you) is easily refutable by you asking in one of your posts “yo sig why are you voting me?” If you were Saitama you’d have known you silenced him so that question makes no sense. I am honestly surprised nobody pointed this out.

Especially going as far as to mention him, which meets a level of expectation of “why hasn’t he tried to engage with me / talk to me” which he couldn’t have done in one post before reaching a scum read on you. First ask questions, then reach a conclusion, and you having that thought is the closest thing to an easy derp clear like sig did on Day 1.

First, the tone seems too confident about Mac being town.

Secondly, why push G-Man as your counter example instead of me? I've been far more bandied about as a lynch. I actually don't know that this is scummy, but it's odd.

Third, you think Mac trying to engage with Sig refutes him being Saitama? I guess no one has ever lied in a game of Mafia before.


Honestly, this defence feels a bit straw-graspy and is also quite confident about Mac's 'town' alignment, and I question whether a townie would write it.

First, I think you’re putting a lot more stock into how I’m reading you when my suspicion was more of a “he’s not doing anything and has shit tone so i’m fine voting there” which feels rather weird. You even mentioned how my vote on you would express towards that, even though it’s not in these exact words, but this is essentially what you were doing as well. I wasn’t really scum reading you heavily because I had nothing to go based off of. I do have for G-Man. You started posting a lot more of your analysis, which was what my initial vote was based on, you not doing anything. I think this angle that you’ve taken is really opportunistic because I don’t remember saying anything about your slot other than placing a vote on you or calling you scum for not doing anything. This dichotomy is weird, do you feel like I should be voting you right here or? I don’t get it. It seems like disingenous posturing, you mentioned I was looking elsewhere while voting you, so I wasn’t really scum reading you, and i clearly stated reasons for scum reading G-Man and pushing him.

Secondly, yes, I think that posting is real and it doesn’t even matter if he’s Saitama or not, my point was I expect mafia members to know of each other’s actions so that just spews him not scum.

Going back to my point about G-Man, you’ve been constantly poked and when you started doing shit, people kind of either left you or voted you anyway, which probably means you’re town, whereas G-Man has been poked, he’s on people’s scum lists, people have actual reasoning to vote there and yet he’s constantly being avoided. People comment on how bad he looks and never hard push him. But people do push you though.

I mean, Mac’s play just reminds me of All My Circuits really, and me having an obvious scum read on him reading Inception and seeing how easy he is to be caught as scum, of course I’m going to lean the opposite because I can’t find anything scum about him in this game, so what’s your point?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:45 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:32 am
'His posts stuck out...' - yeah, for you reading in retrospect, sure. If they were that obvious, why didn't he get lynched right away?

And also, context is necessary. Inception was a game Mac had invited a lot of his new Champs friends to, and he presumably had more time to play. I'm not at all surprised he's playing differently here regardless of alignment.

How is this even relevant for anything? I didn't even play Inception, what matters how other people in the game perceived him compared to how I perceived him from an objective stance? what?

Also, you hinting towards activity levels changing a person's playstyle to be either more scummy or townie is a horrible point. Also also, if it's "presumably", then "context is necessary" isn't necessary.

It's about people's posts not how much they post, who even mentioned I was scum leaning him based on his activity?

You moved the goalposts from me saying "his posts were clearly making him scum" to "well because he was active you scum read him" which i've never even hinted towards

~strawman snip~

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:48 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:30 pm g-man and radishes are partners.

Oh boy do I love this read

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:35 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:19 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:15 pm I also don't get Jack's so sure read on you. Is that normal for Jack, anyone? I seem to remember a more tempered town!Jack.

In my single game (Inception, a few months ago) Jack looked like he was trying to play like he is now, but without being too noticeable. He was scum in that game, so in retrospect I feel like he was trying to imitate his town game as he perceives it.

This makes me hesitate to vote Jack right now, as much as his overall play has been a bit questionable.

I find that town Jack is more unsure in late game in confident end game and scum Jack is the other way around.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:00 am Confession: didn’t know that turnip head and master radishes were different. Their fault for having similar vegetables in their name.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:34 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:20 pm Okay gang, so what if we take a step back?

We have two major wagons going, with most of the players on them which isn't really something I personally like this early in the game.

Who outside of Jack, Nutella, and Radish looks the worst/could be a baddie?

I'm obviously gonna say we should go with Nanook.

But, I'm open to other ideas.

I don’t think any of those are good lynches probably reverse alpha best to worst

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:07 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:19 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:17 pm Dizzy is town, Colin is ehh.

I knew you would come to love me. Are you town though? Cause I want like a read list or something from you. Or at least your top suspects or something. Basically just want to know more where you're at and not so in the background.

Town:

Dizzy
Epi?
G-Man
Jack?
SVS
sig
Ted
Me

Ehh:
Colin
Dom
Drago
Mac
Radish
Michelle
A book
Sloonei
Sprit
Tranq

Baddish:
Jay
Juliets
Sabie
Speed
Turnip

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:34 pm I’ll vote Radishes over Mac. I think a Mac lynch is wildly random, he’s at least hunting. In multiball or whatever that might be less effective, but I think his insight has been good.

Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:42 pm sprityo: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 52#p587352 and http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 53#p587353 - looks like a genuine happy reaction to Nanook's successful role usage of not hitting a town. Leaning good on sprityo.
Master Radishes: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 52#p587452 - very helpful interpretation. His posts seem a bit like what i like to do: ignore all Day 1 nonsense, and look at the votes. I'm not voting for this guy.
Turnip Head: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 61#p587461 - I don't like his posts on MR. TH posts things like "Scum tbqh" and "More like Master Badishes amirite", but he doesn't go into specifics. In the post i linked to, he ignores everything mentioned in the analysis MR made just a couple of posts above his (in which MR tries to find scum in the nutella voters, of which TH is one), and instead throws the attention back at him. This feels like TH is only adding fuel to the MR suspicion without really committing to it. Leaning bad on TH.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:39 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:10 am Actually, all your words are washing over me. I'm taking nothing in.

One time on my home forum I spent the entire first round just gif-posting a handful of times and not engaging in the game at all because I was busy. I got myself mislynched D1. But before I went, I made a final serious post in which I named the entire scum team.

Sometimes looking at something from the corner of your eye allows you to see more. /deep thoughts

Scum tbqh

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:01 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:39 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:10 am Actually, all your words are washing over me. I'm taking nothing in.

One time on my home forum I spent the entire first round just gif-posting a handful of times and not engaging in the game at all because I was busy. I got myself mislynched D1. But before I went, I made a final serious post in which I named the entire scum team.

Sometimes looking at something from the corner of your eye allows you to see more. /deep thoughts

Scum tbqh

I have a read on this post, TH. I would like to expand. But can you first tell me whether or not you were serious? Unclear

quite

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:26 am I for one hate looking terrible but I'd rather lynch radish

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:14 pm [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:52 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:49 pm Yeah, I was just here to post gifs.
I'm with Radish that Nut wagon probably has scum. I mean, scum is like half the game anyway. Lol this game. But also, he should also consider that the same would apply to him if he is ALLEGEDLY town. Yeah, I saw him mentioned this in a later post.

QFT

(I didn't see him mention it in a later post, I'ma go take a look at that)

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:54 pm It's actually really funny that radishes is looking for scum in the Nutella wagon when he got just as many votes to be lynched

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:40 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:27 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:53 pm I think I like Sloonei, but I don't remember why now.

maybe you can dig in memories?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:53 pm This is two posts from SVS now that have felt like they could be written by a scum. Not that they are, just that they could be.

I certainly don't have a mindmeld with Radishes this game

Possible teammate distancing?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:43 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:09 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:08 am I am here, will catch up and post thoughts later today.

Uh, “champion”!

Going at Iso links and choosing the first.
Strange how he looks non interested in this game

More possible distancing?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:12 pm My blacklist in order of lynching priority:

Michelle
Colin
Master Radishes
Sprityo
Sloonei

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:06 pm Well I'm still down for a Radishes lynch as well

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:50 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:19 pm Because what I see is someone trying to affect the ‘quiet but paying attention’ card

yes

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:19 pmand refusing to give much away to avoid getting involved in discussions.

no

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:38 pm [VOTE: MR] aubergine