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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:32 pm
by sig
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:20 pm
I gotta work now.
Let’s kill Sig, he’s been outed scum since day 1.
No i'm not, false narrative pushed by dumb joke D0.
If argument is mech wise need to start flipping people that would be one thing, still wrong with better people to flip first< but to still have the foundation he"s outted scum for a very obvious joke then a crackpot theory on sabie not voting me is very silly.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:34 pm
by sig
I don't see why anyone is shocked both medics and marmot are alive.
Only one solid medic claim plus the fact that we have two watchers and two medics. Assuming we're all town it would be easy enough to assume medics will protect watchers and watchers might watch medics. Given mafia have all ready been caught by a watch I don't see this ground breaking marmot/medics are mafia idea mech wise tbh.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:36 pm
by sig
Also think I deserve a wee bit of town credit for voting nanook when he wasn't yet a run away wagon. :P
I"ll accept that credit in either cash, check, or stock options.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:38 pm
by LinearPoint
sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:36 pm
Also think I deserve a wee bit of town credit for voting nanook when he wasn't yet a run away wagon. :P
I"ll accept that credit in either cash, check, or stock options.
OK this just sounds disingenuous.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:38 pm
by LinearPoint
Who were you protecteing Sig?
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:27 pm
by Marmot
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:30 pm
For TSP to be Mafia one of the following has to occur.
Marmot is lying or Mafia has a Demoman or Medic.
While I can see LC as being Mafia, I just don't really see the plan of fake shooting Sabie as a good idea for Mafia.
I don't think we're at the point where we look at claims and decide which one is truth/lie. We've got 12 players left, 2 of which are scum. We've only mis-elimmed once and it was on Day 1.
Now if said players have other evidence against them that's one thing, but we shouldn't be deciding between TSP/myself right now, because it's quite reasonable for us both to be town.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:30 pm
by Marmot
Also, I don't think TSP would lie about sniping sabie, because he had the chance to be caught if day ended and sabie didn't die.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:36 pm
by Marmot
It sounds like everyone has claimed except for Guillo? I wish I was paying attention.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:48 pm
by MacDougall
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:36 pm
It sounds like everyone has claimed except for Guillo? I wish I was paying attention.
hes blue heavy
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:56 pm
by Marmot
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:48 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:36 pm
It sounds like everyone has claimed except for Guillo? I wish I was paying attention.
hes blue heavy
Can you make one of those lists with everyone's claims that the super-tryhard players like to make?
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:01 am
by TonyStarkPrime
I killed Gav go read the things he said about what to do after I kill him
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:02 am
by TonyStarkPrime
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:59 pm
I mean Marmot always watches Jack so we should have an easy lynch today since TSP said they were shooting Gav right? So Mafia kill was probably Jack.
tell me we have a red
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:03 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:02 pm
That'd be too obvious though, nah
Maybe that is what scum wants us to think.
Why scum would kill Gavial? The loose cannon who's been PoE.
Scum does not kill Gavial but if they didn't... scum does not kill Jack either. The kills dont make sense.
I killed Gavial
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:05 am
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:01 am
I killed Gav go read the things he said about what to do after I kill him
Considering you are the other sniper, I believe this, and won't complain.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:06 am
by TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:05 pm
dolby/naa/drwilgy
Wondering if Dolby is town off of mech bs
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:07 am
by Marmot
Didn't dolby block nanook?
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:07 am
by Marmot
martin over dolby imo, but that's just a blind read.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:08 am
by TonyStarkPrime
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:42 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:39 pm
Honestly I'm thinking maybe Guillotine is Mafia.
He was initially on the lynch Jack train before I came in and redirected the train to Nanook.
I think the train was LC who blocked Jack, Guillotine, Gav, and someone else I can't remember.
I think - and I'm going to blow macdaddy's mind with this - mafia team are players Nanook didn't care to play with. I'm way too fun, and Nanook is a big fan of mine, follows me on instagram and metaverse.
Tbh this is constructible
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:10 am
by TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:27 pm
in hindsight tsp's day 3 was just a garbage fire
shh nerd
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:16 am
by Marmot
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:25 pm
What's with the Sabie wagon right now? Is it just that they aren't really contributing?
I can't seem to find a justification for it other than possibly that.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:07 pm
Has Sabie been scummy enough to warrant 7 votes atm?
What do these two posts have in common?
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:19 am
by Marmot
I changed my mind on martin, his first take on sabie Day 1 was to review her ISO and vote for her, and he left his vote there until EOD.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:20 am
by Marmot
@MartinGG99 has 69 posts and shouldn't post anymore.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:23 am
by Marmot
dolby town, he should come post more, but his approach Day 1 and Day 2 solving is town as heck
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:23 am
by Marmot
also he blocked nanook iirc
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:26 am
by Guillotine
Sig and Martin, let’s go.
Choo choooooooo
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:28 am
by Marmot
guillo had a lot of interactions with sabie day 1, many of which look like guillo responding to tepid sabie questions, and eventually led to guillo saying this
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:32 pm
What if we all just kill Sabie off.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:35 pm
Im down for either Sabie, Gavial or Sig today.
which to me looks pretty good for him. Townie progression
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:29 am
by Marmot
I just said not martin!! >:(
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:32 am
by Guillotine
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:29 am
I just said not martin!! >:(
I dont care. When i get off work i will case them.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:32 am
by Guillotine
Actually scratch that, when i get off work i will sleep then i will case them
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:19 am
by Dolby
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:23 am
dolby town, he should come post more, but his approach Day 1 and Day 2 solving is town as heck
1/4th of the way to Dolby (4)
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:20 am
by TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:38 pm
and he's scarcely responsible at all for nanook going over
ok that part's not true and also gavial fifth wolfing does not make him town
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:20 am
by Marmot
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:32 am
Actually scratch that, when i get off work i will sleep then i will case them
Eitherr option works for me
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:21 am
by TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:38 pm
and he's scarcely responsible at all for nanook going over
ok that part's not true and also gavial fifth wolfing does not make him town
well it does make him town but
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:23 am
by Dolby
I'm pretty sure this is an environment where I claim my roleblock
I made a tier list yesterday which I revisited. In it I put TSP and Marmot as top town based off of mech. Maybe I revisit these off of paranoia but I'm still at that point. LP and LC town based off of good vibes. Gav I legit viewed as softclear and am really dissapointed to see dead, and same for Jack, which lol they were the nightkill. Guillo/NAA/Mac. I think that Mac and Guillo are probably town and kinda am just at wtf is NAA doing if scum with that D1 but honestly at this point that isn't a good enough.
The only really useful thign was I cleared Martin provisionally, and I'm not entering day with this read just to build a team with the remainder, and thought that Sig and Falcon weren't teammed based off of voting behavior D1
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:24 am
by Dolby
I will say if Gav was actually in danger of going over yday I would have saved him
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:25 am
by Dolby
Kinda weird that martin didn't build a teleporter tbh? whats up with that
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:26 am
by Dolby
Is there any reason that I shouldn't claim my role block?
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:28 am
by Marmot
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:26 am
Is there any reason that I shouldn't claim my role block?
Probably wouldn't hurt. Especially since no one has claimed to have been roleblocked.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:29 am
by Dolby
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:20 pm
I forgot to submit my action.
Honestly I want to call him town for this lol
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:29 am
by Dolby
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:28 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:26 am
Is there any reason that I shouldn't claim my role block?
Probably wouldn't hurt. Especially since no one has claimed to have been roleblocked.
K, cool, i blocked Wilgy
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:29 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:25 am
Kinda weird that martin didn't build a teleporter tbh? whats up with that
I'm avoiding attributing malice thusfar
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:32 am
by Dolby
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:30 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:59 pm
I mean Marmot always watches Jack so we should have an easy lynch today since TSP said they were shooting Gav right? So Mafia kill was probably Jack.
I didn't watch jack because I would otherwise have 5 votes on me today.
I did Discipline him last night though.
Marmot, read the first ability on your role again
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:32 am
by Dolby
nvm i didn't read far enough
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:33 am
by Dolby
Falcon was present during EoD1 and stayed off of both major wagons
I want to know why
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:33 am
by Dolby
I can non-w/w case Falcon and Sig if necessary but I dont think it is
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:35 am
by Marmot
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:33 am
Falcon was present during EoD1 and stayed off of both major wagons
I want to know why
My current thought is falcon/LP as the final two, but I'd like to talk about LP more with other people given they've taken 0 heat thus far.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:36 am
by Dolby
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:41 pm
Or actually it might be just LC. I don't think I agree with his block last night. It sounds more like a lie honestly since Gav just wasn't a real roleblock target.
the only productive way to fake a roleblock on Gav if mafia, for reasons beyond making a poe towny look good if i block his teammates kill, would be to reduce vote power for a towny on a future day, which, I'm not familiar enough with action history but I'm assuming isn't going to be the case? especially since I think maf are expecting an even number alive today?
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:38 am
by Dolby
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:35 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:33 am
Falcon was present during EoD1 and stayed off of both major wagons
I want to know why
My current thought is falcon/LP as the final two, but I'd like to talk about LP more with other people given they've taken 0 heat thus far.
you can case them if you want but they are my strongest townread that isn't mech influenced by far
I'll do due diligence in reading their ISO tomorrow but... yeah I'm not expecting much to change. Maybe I'll find they were protecting Nanook/got on sabie in a weird way, idk. Probably the biggest thing that makes me think that the Sabie wagon was pure though was TSP being the last to get, who I'm still assuming town derped as vig. Which means that LP and other Sabie voters as mafia sat around and let nanook expose himself for no productive reason
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:38 am
by Marmot
Oh Wilgy's the Pyro ain't he
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:40 am
by Dolby
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:38 am
Oh Wilgy's the Pyro ain't he
yeah
I blocked him