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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:18 pm
by Sloonei
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:12 pm So does this day end up boiling down to whether we listen to drunk Seanzie or high Gavial?
It boils down to everyone playing the part and being the best team player they can possibly be, my child. :noble:

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:18 pm
by Sloonei
haha page 69 nice

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:19 pm
by MacDougall
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:12 pm So does this day end up boiling down to whether we listen to drunk Seanzie or high Gavial?
It boils down to everyone playing the part and being the best team player they can possibly be, my child. :noble:
Cmon guy I was just having fun lighten u...
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:18 pm haha page 69 nice
heh nice

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:20 pm
by Sloonei
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:17 pm I mean most of the time it is good to kill the person blocked on a night there was no kill


This specific time idgaf im ride or die with hawk town
It's closed role madness and we have another claim which asserts that three people targeted Jay, presumably none of which are Hawk.

Why is she town?

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:21 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:20 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:17 pm I mean most of the time it is good to kill the person blocked on a night there was no kill


This specific time idgaf im ride or die with hawk town
It's closed role madness and we have another claim which asserts that three people targeted Jay, presumably none of which are Hawk.

Why is she town?
So? Irrelevant.

I day cop checked her green

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:23 pm
by MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:20 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:17 pm I mean most of the time it is good to kill the person blocked on a night there was no kill


This specific time idgaf im ride or die with hawk town
It's closed role madness and we have another claim which asserts that three people targeted Jay, presumably none of which are Hawk.

Why is she town?
So? Irrelevant.

I day cop checked her green
I horny checked Sloonei red.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:23 pm
by MacDougall
[VOTE: garden gnome] aubergine

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:24 pm
by MacDougall
hey guys I swear this is mafia im drunk sleepy high God mode garden gnome is outed sheep it for Valhalla etc.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:26 pm
by Sloonei
I have no reason to read Gnome as any particular alignment.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:26 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I have a wild watermelon check on Long Con and a chestnut check on Nanook

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:26 pm
by MacDougall
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:26 pm I have no reason to read Gnome as any particular alignment.
just trust me sloonei I have a hard batman check on them

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:27 pm
by MacDougall
I am a batman cop each night I check someone for batman. Last night I checked gnome and can confirm batman.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:27 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I have ID'd MacDougall as Game Fuel Mountain Dew

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:28 pm
by MacDougall
batman

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:28 pm
by Sloonei
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:26 pm I have no reason to read Gnome as any particular alignment.
just trust me sloonei I have a hard batman check on them
That was my way of saying I’m intrigued. Aroused, even.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:28 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:27 pm I have ID'd MacDougall as Game Fuel Mountain Dew
I confirm

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:28 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I'm gonna have the last laugh when you realize I'm not memeing

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:28 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm
by MacDougall
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:26 pm I have no reason to read Gnome as any particular alignment.
just trust me sloonei I have a hard batman check on them
That was my way of saying I’m intrigued. Aroused, even.
is this a hard claim?

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm
by Sloonei
You know in England they’re called red cheques.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm
by MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:28 pm I'm gonna have the last laugh when you realize I'm not memeing
oh I thought you were my bad

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:30 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
hard claim scotland yard

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:30 pm
by MacDougall
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
do not pass go do not collect 200 dollar

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:30 pm
by Sloonei
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:26 pm I have no reason to read Gnome as any particular alignment.
just trust me sloonei I have a hard batman check on them
That was my way of saying I’m intrigued. Aroused, even.
is this a hard claim?
Yes

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:30 pm
by hawkataine
Actvscenei wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:09 pm
Gavial wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:06 pm
Actvscenei wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:04 pm I don’t mean to drive down this tunnel...but I really think Dana is scum, y’all. I do not like the question about Nutella’s flip (feels like a forced derp), and I do not like this reiteration of the reads list. 🤷‍♀️ I think I’m going to trust my D1 initial instinct right now because D2 hasn’t changed my mind yet. Her reads are trying too hard. She isn’t really scum hunting, I really believe she is spending more time on her appearance than finding scum. Call me crazy, but like...my vote is going back there haha.
What’s your read on Hawk
I have no confident read on Hawk. Didn’t mind her reaction to your red check post, but I know Hawk is really level-headed so I’m not surprised. I wouldn’t be surprised if she is fully lying to you either lol. I guess that’s where I’m at. The only read I’m feeling confident on atm is Dana.
This post really seems like Act knows I'm town
Like she never says it but it vibes that way
Significant sideye
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:09 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 2:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 2:50 pm I put no stock in Gavial's mechanical claims about you, if it helps. It is a non-factor in my read of you.
What is your read of him?
Fair enough

I have been avoiding commenting on him because my only experience with him is a game I'm currently modding on MafC - I will let you know once it ends tho
Any thought in general on the suspicion against you today?
ngl it's fair enough but incredibly frustrating
I have a very bad handle on the thread rn because I'm still catching up on like the last ten pages (did Belzy die????) but
as far as I can tell there's like three reasons:

1) My made vote
Yeah I mean I'm pretty frustrated that there seem to be people who were townreading my actual posts yesterday but this one naked vote has caused that to evaporate despite me explicitly saying I do questionable things with my vote at EoD as town
Like how bad do you think my scum game is jeez
It's hard to believe that this is real thoughts but also I don't trust myself that there are actually people who think this and I'm not just tilted, I've lost track, am rereading and will get back to you xD
2) Gavial's 'red check'
Which tbh I thought it was a joke and still am half convinced it was a joke and I'm annoyed I've had to spill whatever beans about my role over this, it's role madness, move on already
3) Lack of interaction with nutella/didn't vote nutella despite building a case
I already addressed this a little bit, there's a ton of players, I don't know her, I was asking for meta/TS weigh-ins so I could act on suspicions better but I don't remember getting responses, already explained why I didn't vote there. I also didn't vote anybody else or interact with a whole ton of other players. People taking this angle are mostly fine tbh.

Also I'm yet to find out why Sonny's voting me because he hasn't even arrived in the thread where I'm reading but he's definitely getting some preemptive sideeye for it because et tu Brute

Anway I apologise this turned into a bit of a rant, I'm still reading and will hopefully have more educated thoughts after that

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:32 pm
by MacDougall
Jay how many interactives do you have left to do?

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:32 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
@Owner of a Lonely Heart you ought to just say who you sent a fruit, k

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:32 pm
by hawkataine
wow I apologise for interrupting the memeing with an essay lol

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:32 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:32 pm @Owner of a Lonely Heart you ought to just say who you sent a fruit, k
inb4 owner is the doctor that saved you

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:33 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:32 pm Jay how many interactives do you have left to do?
I've done all of the ones I view as "priority". I'd like to get to these too:

Allcrab
Dana
Made

I won't do them all. I am comfortable enough with this game that it doesn't strike me as necessary.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:34 pm
by MacDougall
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:32 pm wow I apologise for interrupting the memeing with an essay lol
insert sassy meme here

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:34 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:32 pm Jay how many interactives do you have left to do?
I've done all of the ones I view as "priority". I'd like to get to these too:

Allcrab
Dana
Made

I won't do them all. I am comfortable enough with this game that it doesn't strike me as necessary.
but I like when you do me it's like getting a pedicure

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:35 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:32 pm wow I apologise for interrupting the memeing with an essay lol
I appreciate the essay.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
by Kito
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:38 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Interactions of MacDougall and nutella

From nutella

Spoiler: show
"Mac will just move his vote whatever"

~~~

From MacDougall

Spoiler: show
"nutella mafia"

"nutella town?"

"Jay mafia with nutella"

"nutella mafia"

*leaves vote on nutella forever*

~~~

Conclusion

Nah

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:38 pm
by Actvscenei
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:32 pm wow I apologise for interrupting the memeing with an essay lol
I have a longer essay than you I think on the other page, and I don’t apologize for it 😂

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm
by hawkataine
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh
you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:42 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:28 pm I'm gonna have the last laugh when you realize I'm not memeing
oh I thought you were my bad
Of course i am :p

Do think she's town tho

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:42 pm
by MacDougall
Actvscenei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:38 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:32 pm wow I apologise for interrupting the memeing with an essay lol
I have a longer essay than you I think on the other page, and I don’t apologize for it 😂
I had this thought.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:42 pm
by MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:28 pm I'm gonna have the last laugh when you realize I'm not memeing
oh I thought you were my bad
Of course i am :p

Do think she's town tho
damn it

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:43 pm
by Kito
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh
you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon
hork and ki'o do NOT appreciate this mockery

better include some content before I get yelled at. hawk is town I believe

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:43 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Actvscenei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:17 pm Jay insists I’m doing nothing but suspecting Dana and that my interaction with Nutella firms me up as scum. From the looks of it, I suspect Jay is able to read quite well between the lines, and so I’d imagine then that could see what I was doing aside from just voting for Dana. ISOs, and whatever this interactives thing is don’t impress me. Anyone can sit there and collect quotes and analyze them and arrive at varying interpretations. This is literally what I do with my students on a daily basis, and I know very well how easy it is for scum to put in the effort to collect all this data and present findings that appear like town musings. What this does though is more scum motivated than town motivate (I KNOW very few agree with that). But scum can be very influential in this way and manipulate town. Town sees the work, reads the work as being town motivated (because look at all that work!) and then takes those words at higher value. Now scum can convince the players to vote in the direction they choose. I’m not at a point to say Jay is scum for it, but he’s definitely not town for it.
Nobody has to read me as town for analyzing things. I doubt anyone is.

My holistic impression of your play is foggy apart from "suspects Dana". Her name appears in 10 of the 12 posts you made immediately preceding this treatise. I am sure there are other things in your posts, but it's clear to me which thing is pronounced and most consistent. If you're town then just keep solving and do what you do.

If you haven't already, you should still explain at length why you declined to contribute to any prevailing wagon at the end of Day 1.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:43 pm
by MacDougall
[VOTE: owner] aubergine

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:44 pm
by Garden Gnome
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh
you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon
Sounds terrible.
Oh, and can you tell me how you're reading Owner right now?
And why do you think that you're a leading wagon?
Who are you reading as scum right now.
Please forgive me if these questions have already been asked and answered. I've been reading and catching up.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:45 pm
by hawkataine
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:43 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh
you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon
hork and ki'o do NOT appreciate this mockery

better include some content before I get yelled at. hawk is town I believe
The buddying warms my heart but you've already said that today, try again :P
(I've evolved from a ball of anxiety to a ball of paranoia, it would seem)

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:45 pm
by MacDougall
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:43 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh
you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon
hork and ki'o do NOT appreciate this mockery

better include some content before I get yelled at. hawk is town I believe
Image

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:46 pm
by MacDougall
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:45 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:43 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh
you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon
hork and ki'o do NOT appreciate this mockery

better include some content before I get yelled at. hawk is town I believe
The buddying warms my heart but you've already said that today, try again :P
(I've evolved from a ball of anxiety to a ball of paranoia, it would seem)
next stop ball of mania

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:46 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I lived in England for 3.5 years and didn't hear a single instance of the word "bollocks" until the third year. I was displeased.

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:47 pm
by hawkataine
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:46 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:45 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:43 pm
hawkataine wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:39 pm
Kito wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm You know in England they’re called red cheques.
@hawkataine we're under attack even on another site smh
you're right this is even more egregious than being a leading wagon
hork and ki'o do NOT appreciate this mockery

better include some content before I get yelled at. hawk is town I believe
The buddying warms my heart but you've already said that today, try again :P
(I've evolved from a ball of anxiety to a ball of paranoia, it would seem)
next stop ball of mania
*eagerly fills out 24x24 madness spreadsheet while bleeding out of eyes*

Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:47 pm
by Actvscenei
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:43 pm
Actvscenei wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 3:17 pm Jay insists I’m doing nothing but suspecting Dana and that my interaction with Nutella firms me up as scum. From the looks of it, I suspect Jay is able to read quite well between the lines, and so I’d imagine then that could see what I was doing aside from just voting for Dana. ISOs, and whatever this interactives thing is don’t impress me. Anyone can sit there and collect quotes and analyze them and arrive at varying interpretations. This is literally what I do with my students on a daily basis, and I know very well how easy it is for scum to put in the effort to collect all this data and present findings that appear like town musings. What this does though is more scum motivated than town motivate (I KNOW very few agree with that). But scum can be very influential in this way and manipulate town. Town sees the work, reads the work as being town motivated (because look at all that work!) and then takes those words at higher value. Now scum can convince the players to vote in the direction they choose. I’m not at a point to say Jay is scum for it, but he’s definitely not town for it.
Nobody has to read me as town for analyzing things. I doubt anyone is.

My holistic impression of your play is foggy apart from "suspects Dana". Her name appears in 10 of the 12 posts you made immediately preceding this treatise. I am sure there are other things in your posts, but it's clear to me which thing is pronounced and most consistent. If you're town then just keep solving and do what you do.

If you haven't already, you should still explain at length why you declined to contribute to any prevailing wagon at the end of Day 1.
I explained that to Tangy at the end of the day when she questioned me for it then. Considering you know how many posts of mine have Dana in it and considering you did an interactive of me, and considering you’re questioning me on my vote at EoD, I imagine you’ve read pretty much all my posts including my end of day posts and already saw my explanation. You can go back and read what I wrote there if you want, and then if you still have questions afterwards, I’ll answer them.