Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Tangrowth]

I feel like sig keeps misrepresenting things. I have pretty consistently suspected MP, not had him in my civ reads list.

You still think I'm bad?

[Turnip Head]

Why do we fall TH

I don't know anymore

[Enrique]

c u th

Do you?

Smug bastard.

[Turnip Head]

But you never asked it randomly. You always asked it when a significant turn was taken.

Well you see, with a joke, timing is everything.

But it wasn't a joke. You can say that it was a joke all you want but you're not going to fool anyone.

I guess you should lynch me then, there is 0% chance that my intentions were innocent.

[Tangrowth]

Why do we fall TH

I don't know anymore

There there.

[a2thezebra]

When a significant turn in the game is taken and someone asks "why do we fall" that implies something. Just because it's a reference to the theme doesn't mean it's meant for humor and nothing else, especially when it's used the way TH kept using it.

What it implied was that TH had a better idea of what to do and what not to do, or what to reveal and not to reveal. But he never elaborated past the incredibly vague "joke."

[Tangrowth]

But you never asked it randomly. You always asked it when a significant turn was taken.

Well you see, with a joke, timing is everything.

But it wasn't a joke. You can say that it was a joke all you want but you're not going to fool anyone.

I guess you should lynch me then, there is 0% chance that my intentions were innocent.

No, as I told zebra, I need to go next!

[Turnip Head]

c u th

Do you?

Smug bastard.

Yeah... that post was me making a big mistake about you, so that's on me

[Golden]

This is kind of a bloody awesome game.

@MP - I still lean slightly bad, come rainbow time. Not 'I'd vote for you' bad. I think you are off base in assuming you are bound to be lynched at some point, there is plenty of time to see how this turns out.

I'd probably lean inmate on you, if pressed for a specific read.

[Turnip Head]

When a significant turn in the game is taken and someone asks "why do we fall" that implies something. Just because it's a reference to the theme doesn't mean it's meant for humor and nothing else, especially when it's used the way TH kept using it.

What it implied was that TH had a better idea of what to do and what not to do, or what to reveal and not to reveal. But he never elaborated past the incredibly vague "joke."

You're right, this is the only explanation.

[Marmot]

That's another layer!

sig, there is absolutely no civvie reason to misguide the thread like that. He just went from confirmed civ in my eyes to this smiley ->

linki- Guys it's not just the question. I could compile a list of posts, but it seriously is all over the place. Just look at our interactions after the lynch. It's a complete I know that you know that I know. Look at the way he's clung on to Matt from the start. Look at his reaction when Matt was leading the lynch. This is too great. The fact that Nero was a baddie only makes this a million times funnier.

I don't feel any wiser.

[a2thezebra]

But you never asked it randomly. You always asked it when a significant turn was taken.

Well you see, with a joke, timing is everything.

But it wasn't a joke. You can say that it was a joke all you want but you're not going to fool anyone.

I guess you should lynch me then, there is 0% chance that my intentions were innocent.

Correct. However, I should be lynched instead so I can replace MP and give him a break.

linki - It really is, TH.

[Tangrowth]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

[sig]

I misread your latest view on MP, you said anti-town sorry about that.

linki: Enrique what do you mean? How did I misguide the thread.

[a2thezebra]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

You really have been skipping chunks of the thread. :P

[Enrique]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

Bad.

[Tangrowth]

This is kind of a bloody awesome game.

@MP - I still lean slightly bad, come rainbow time. Not 'I'd vote for you' bad. I think you are off base in assuming you are bound to be lynched at some point, there is plenty of time to see how this turns out.

I'd probably lean inmate on you, if pressed for a specific read.

Why do you think I'm off base? When do I ever get to endgame? Lol.

Why do people think I'm inmate?

[Turnip Head]

linki- Guys it's not just the question. I could compile a list of posts, but it seriously is all over the place. Just look at our interactions after the lynch. It's a complete I know that you know that I know. Look at the way he's clung on to Matt from the start. Look at his reaction when Matt was leading the lynch. This is too great. The fact that Nero was a baddie only makes this a million times funnier.

You should get me lynched and then reread my posts about you. I think you'll have quite a laugh

[Tangrowth]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

You really have been skipping chunks of the thread. :P

I told you!

[Tangrowth]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

Bad.

I await your admittance of your misread upon my lynch.

[a2thezebra]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

You really have been skipping chunks of the thread. :P

I told you!

I wasn't ready to believe it but "if Turnip really is Alfred" confirms it lmao

[a2thezebra]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

Bad.

I await your admittance of your misread upon my lynch.

A little hasty...

[Tangrowth]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

You really have been skipping chunks of the thread. :P

I told you!

I wasn't ready to believe it but "if Turnip really is Alfred" confirms it lmao

Unless you have inside information, there is never any way to know for sure whether someone is or is not a certain role.

[Enrique]

MP I believed TH was Alfred for a good while. There's a huge context around my decision to "out" him. I don't know how you could miss that.

and Matt sorry I expected you to know what was going on

[Marmot]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

You really have been skipping chunks of the thread. :P

I told you!

I wasn't ready to believe it but "if Turnip really is Alfred" confirms it lmao

Unless you have inside information, there is never any way to know for sure whether someone is or is not a certain role.

Wrong, you just lynch them like vote-vote-vote-vote-vote-vote-vote-vote-and-lynch!

[a2thezebra]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

You really have been skipping chunks of the thread. :P

I told you!

I wasn't ready to believe it but "if Turnip really is Alfred" confirms it lmao

Unless you have inside information, there is never any way to know for sure whether someone is or is not a certain role.

I guess we should never lynch anyone unless they post their baddie role cards in the thread then.

[Tangrowth]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

Bad.

I await your admittance of your misread upon my lynch.

A little hasty...

It's immensely amusing to me that in these large games people literally suspect me for playing every possible way. I'm playing as far off as possible from my mafia meta and still I get suspected.

[Tangrowth]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

You really have been skipping chunks of the thread. :P

I told you!

I wasn't ready to believe it but "if Turnip really is Alfred" confirms it lmao

Unless you have inside information, there is never any way to know for sure whether someone is or is not a certain role.

Wrong, you just lynch them like vote-vote-vote-vote-vote-vote-vote-vote-and-lynch!

Ah, that's true!

[Tangrowth]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

You really have been skipping chunks of the thread. :P

I told you!

I wasn't ready to believe it but "if Turnip really is Alfred" confirms it lmao

Unless you have inside information, there is never any way to know for sure whether someone is or is not a certain role.

I guess we should never lynch anyone unless they post their baddie role cards in the thread then.

Lol this is a gross misrepresentation.

[a2thezebra]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

Bad.

I await your admittance of your misread upon my lynch.

A little hasty...

It's immensely amusing to me that in these large games people literally suspect me for playing every possible way. I'm playing as far off as possible from my mafia meta and still I get suspected.

Have you considered the possibility that that's why you are getting suspected?

linki - How so?

[Golden]

This is kind of a bloody awesome game.

@MP - I still lean slightly bad, come rainbow time. Not 'I'd vote for you' bad. I think you are off base in assuming you are bound to be lynched at some point, there is plenty of time to see how this turns out.

I'd probably lean inmate on you, if pressed for a specific read.

Why do you think I'm off base? When do I ever get to endgame? Lol.

Why do people think I'm inmate?

Fair point lol

[Tangrowth]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

Bad.

I await your admittance of your misread upon my lynch.

A little hasty...

It's immensely amusing to me that in these large games people literally suspect me for playing every possible way. I'm playing as far off as possible from my mafia meta and still I get suspected.

Have you considered the possibility that that's why you are getting suspected?

linki - How so?

No. Why would that get me suspected?

[Golden]

I'm with MP on the matter of TH. He is hardly going to say 'you got me, I'm Alfred'.

I think it unlikely he is Alfred. But for me, there are a number of possible explanations for his behaviour, not all of which must be 'he is a false-claiming baddie'. Open minds are best.

[Tangrowth]

This is kind of a bloody awesome game.

@MP - I still lean slightly bad, come rainbow time. Not 'I'd vote for you' bad. I think you are off base in assuming you are bound to be lynched at some point, there is plenty of time to see how this turns out.

I'd probably lean inmate on you, if pressed for a specific read.

Why do you think I'm off base? When do I ever get to endgame? Lol.

Why do people think I'm inmate?

Fair point lol

You'd think I come to accept it, but it still disappoints me every time.

[Tangrowth]

I'm with MP on the matter of TH. He is hardly going to say 'you got me, I'm Alfred'.

I think it unlikely he is Alfred. But for me, there are a number of possible explanations for his behaviour, not all of which must be 'he is a false-claiming baddie'. Open minds are best.

+1

Seriously, closed minds are what get civilians to lose games.

[a2thezebra]

If someone is aware of their meta, then they know how to play with it in their favor.

[Turnip Head]

I'm with MP on the matter of TH. He is hardly going to say 'you got me, I'm Alfred'.

I think it unlikely he is Alfred. But for me, there are a number of possible explanations for his behaviour, not all of which must be 'he is a false-claiming baddie'. Open minds are best.

Cheers Golden

[sig]

sig, there is absolutely no civvie reason to misguide the thread like that. He just went from confirmed civ in my eyes to this smiley ->

Enrique was this at me?

[MacDougall]

Lol "he has questions that need answering"...

[Marmot]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

Bad.

I await your admittance of your misread upon my lynch.

A little hasty...

It's immensely amusing to me that in these large games people literally suspect me for playing every possible way. I'm playing as far off as possible from my mafia meta and still I get suspected.

I don't understand how you can make the claim that "I am playing my town meta". What is your town meta, and how have you employed that meta this game?

You were town in Arrested Developmet, and you were hollering at me for half of the game for poor performance. Yet here you are engaging in similar behaviour you accused me for in a different game.

It's not that I care that you are playing this way. I know that you are quite busy and can't post 200 times a day like you'd like. But your claim that you are playing "your town meta" doesn't look accurate. Plus this "look at me, I'm playing like a civ, guys" looks like a false presentation to me. I might be exaggerating, but this is the impression I got.

[Golden]

I'm with MP on the matter of TH. He is hardly going to say 'you got me, I'm Alfred'.

I think it unlikely he is Alfred. But for me, there are a number of possible explanations for his behaviour, not all of which must be 'he is a false-claiming baddie'. Open minds are best.

Cheers Golden

Don't buddy me, baddie

But yeah, I mean, I'm not jumping to conclusions. The points Enrique and zebra make are good imo, but they are not the one exclusive possible answer.

[Turnip Head]

sig, there is absolutely no civvie reason to misguide the thread like that. He just went from confirmed civ in my eyes to this smiley ->

Enrique was this at me?

No no, he's talking about me. He thinks I tried to make everyone think I'm Alfred.

[a2thezebra]

I'm with MP on the matter of TH. He is hardly going to say 'you got me, I'm Alfred'.

I think it unlikely he is Alfred. But for me, there are a number of possible explanations for his behaviour, not all of which must be 'he is a false-claiming baddie'. Open minds are best.

But MP's position on TH shows that he hasn't been paying attention. No one is saying that TH should out himself if he is in fact Alfred. In fact, it's pretty clear that he isn't Alfred. When someone implies that they are a certain role and simultaneously implies that another player is a certain role, yet that other player denies this upon the revealing of that implication, the aspect of why that someone implied anything at all should come into question.

[Marmot]

I'm with MP on the matter of TH. He is hardly going to say 'you got me, I'm Alfred'.

I think it unlikely he is Alfred. But for me, there are a number of possible explanations for his behaviour, not all of which must be 'he is a false-claiming baddie'. Open minds are best.

But MP's position on TH shows that he hasn't been paying attention. No one is saying that TH should out himself if he is in fact Alfred. In fact, it's pretty clear that he isn't Alfred. When someone implies that they are a certain role and simultaneously implies that another player is a certain role, yet that other player denies this upon the revealing of that implication, the aspect of why that someone implied anything at all should come into question.

Maybe you're reading too far into the things.

[Enrique]

TH can you explain what you and I were so giddy about last night when Matt wouldn't understand what happened and kept making crazy tinfoil conspiracy theories? Or how you expected me to respond to the how do I look?

[Tangrowth]

zebra and Enrique, if Turnip really is Alfred you think he's just going to admit it? Lol. You both seeing this as black or white, and it's not.

Bad.

I await your admittance of your misread upon my lynch.

A little hasty...

It's immensely amusing to me that in these large games people literally suspect me for playing every possible way. I'm playing as far off as possible from my mafia meta and still I get suspected.

I don't understand how you can make the claim that "I am playing my town meta". What is your town meta, and how have you employed that meta this game?

You were town in Arrested Developmet, and you were hollering at me for half of the game for poor performance. Yet here you are engaging in similar behaviour you accused me for in a different game.

It's not that I care that you are playing this way. I know that you are quite busy and can't post 200 times a day like you'd like. But your claim that you are playing "your town meta" doesn't look accurate. Plus this "look at me, I'm playing like a civ, guys" looks like a false presentation to me. I might be exaggerating, but this is the impression I got.

I'm sorry if you're upset about that game. I got into it intensely and really was just disappointed that you didn't contribute anything.

Maybe you're right and I just want the attention. Or maybe I know I'm going to be lynched anyway so I'm just having fun with it. Look, I can't employ supertown MP this game. It's just way too posty and I don't have TH time; in fact, I've totally blown productivity today but whatever.

I just am genuinely perplexed as to how anyone thinks I'm mafia this game.

[Turnip Head]

I'm with MP on the matter of TH. He is hardly going to say 'you got me, I'm Alfred'.

I think it unlikely he is Alfred. But for me, there are a number of possible explanations for his behaviour, not all of which must be 'he is a false-claiming baddie'. Open minds are best.

Cheers Golden

Don't buddy me, baddie

But yeah, I mean, I'm not jumping to conclusions. The points Enrique and zebra make are good imo, but they are not the one exclusive possible answer.

Whatever you decide about me, I respect this way of playing. Jumping to conclusions like "Nero talked about the Riddler he's the Riddler" or "Matt is posting knock knock jokes he must have targeted the Joker" or "TH is asking Why do people fall he must be trying to claim Alfred" are the kinds of things people think about once and then never think about any other way. And sometimes I feel like I'm the only player considering every angle (that's an exaggeration, a few others do it too). But it's nice to know I'm not the only sane man in the asylum

[a2thezebra]

I'm with MP on the matter of TH. He is hardly going to say 'you got me, I'm Alfred'.

I think it unlikely he is Alfred. But for me, there are a number of possible explanations for his behaviour, not all of which must be 'he is a false-claiming baddie'. Open minds are best.

But MP's position on TH shows that he hasn't been paying attention. No one is saying that TH should out himself if he is in fact Alfred. In fact, it's pretty clear that he isn't Alfred. When someone implies that they are a certain role and simultaneously implies that another player is a certain role, yet that other player denies this upon the revealing of that implication, the aspect of why that someone implied anything at all should come into question.

Maybe you're reading too far into the things.

How so? Do you really think that TH wasn't implying anything, and that "why do we fall" really was a strictly humorous motif?

[Tangrowth]

I'm with MP on the matter of TH. He is hardly going to say 'you got me, I'm Alfred'.

I think it unlikely he is Alfred. But for me, there are a number of possible explanations for his behaviour, not all of which must be 'he is a false-claiming baddie'. Open minds are best.

But MP's position on TH shows that he hasn't been paying attention. No one is saying that TH should out himself if he is in fact Alfred. In fact, it's pretty clear that he isn't Alfred. When someone implies that they are a certain role and simultaneously implies that another player is a certain role, yet that other player denies this upon the revealing of that implication, the aspect of why that someone implied anything at all should come into question.

How is it pretty clear TH isn't Alfred? That's just not true.

[Turnip Head]

TH can you explain what you and I were so giddy about last night when Matt wouldn't understand what happened and kept making crazy tinfoil conspiracy theories? Or how you expected me to respond to the how do I look?

I could definitely explain that, but it wouldn't make any sense until you lynch me.