The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:04 pm**

RIP Juliets

Welcome back from stinkification, FH!

I agree about Storm Crow. However, I also think we should consider lynching either Ishar Murad or Untamed today as I have a feeling they will end up being Horde. Pretty sure Dom will turn out to be Snake Mountain.

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:05 pm**

Flyin' High wrote:RIP juliets!

I have a list of people I'm unsure of/feeling suspicious of and currently on top of that list is Stormcrow. The fact that he has continued to show up to vote in lynches, but has added nothing to the discussion since joining the game really makes me think he has teammates reminding him to vote. And since I am not prepared to touch MP with a 6-foot pole today due to him surviving back-to-back lynches, I think Stormcrow is a good place to look.

I still wonder about Dom. I feel pretty certain that there are 2 members of Snake Mountain still alive. At best there is one member of that team still alive.

There might be as many as 4 members of the Horde still alive which is concerning. Maybe Snake Mountain got lucky and killed one which leaves us with 3 Horde to deal with, but I'm worried that's not the case.

I'm so glad I can finally talk normally today! Drawing those pictures was fun, but hard to get all of my thoughts across.

But the Schlangenh family member 4.

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:07 pm**

Pipe of one organization. However, five people were killed.

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:07 pm**

LittleTiger wrote:RIP Juliets

Welcome back from stinkification, FH!

I agree about Storm Crow. However, I also think we should consider lynching either Ishar Murad or Untamed today as I have a feeling they will end up being Horde. Pretty sure Dom will turn out to be Snake Mountain.

I agree that one or both of them might be Horde. But wouldn't you rather get rid of a player who is actively voting if they are part of the Horde?

Unless you think that IMC or the_untamed have a power that would be better to get rid of. However, I can't even begin to guess on that front. I currently think MP might be Modulok, but he could just be WIFOM-ing us all with his antics.

At the moment, I feel that a player who shows up to vote every lynch is more of a threat than the no shows. And I just do not get warm, fuzzy feelings about Stormcrow.

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:13 pm**

Flyin' High wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:RIP Juliets

Welcome back from stinkification, FH!

I agree about Storm Crow. However, I also think we should consider lynching either Ishar Murad or Untamed today as I have a feeling they will end up being Horde. Pretty sure Dom will turn out to be Snake Mountain.
I agree that one or both of them might be Horde. But wouldn't you rather get rid of a player who is actively voting if they are part of the Horde?

Unless you think that IMC or the_untamed have a power that would be better to get rid of. However, I can't even begin to guess on that front. I currently think MP might be Modulok, but he could just be WIFOM-ing us all with his antics.

At the moment, I feel that a player who shows up to vote every lynch is more of a threat than the no shows. And I just do not get warm, fuzzy feelings about Stormcrow.

Well, considering that his vote was worth more than normal last lynch and certain other factors that went on, I am not 100% sold on Storm Crow being bad. I do wish he would post more so we can figure him out though!

I do think Ishar is Horde simply based on what Snow Dog said about trying to find a replacement for him....

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:14 pm**

Hilarious farewell for Thunderbird.

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:15 pm**

The castle of the threat, but it is not good.

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:17 pm**

Front Blindfaeth?

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:21 pm**

Kaplan, roll Blindfaeth R I here it?

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:24 pm**

Please help, Litlitigir idea?

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:35 pm**

Ugh! Timmer... try to do pictures!

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:56 pm**

I feel much more confident in Stormcrow being bad than IMC or the_untamed at this point for what it's worth. I definitely think he's in cahoots with with a teammate who is active in the game and can remind him to vote (for example, MovingPictures). I just don't see a reason a civvie would simply show up to vote but not participate in discussion at all. But with as many lynch manipulations as there appear to be in this game, I think showing up to vote matters regardless of your affiliation and probably even moreso for the mafia.

Posted: **Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:06 pm**

LittleTiger wrote:Ugh! Timmer... try to do pictures!

Some files may not be deleted:% 1. Graffiti is a plan I've tried it, it was only a matter of time. My actions. My heart is fire.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:01 am**

I have some really tasty information, and anyone who voted the knife last night I think will be able to verify.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:09 am**

alright, so to paraphrase,

today's lynch is going to be a mess. TBH this scares the crap out of me, I totally understand now why we never lynch who we intend to. LOL

Votes are going to shift down on the poll. IE, votes for Aces will go to me, votes for me will go to DP, etc etc.

Second. We could try to lynch MP today, but if we do, there is a very real chance I could die. Because whatever votes the two of us have, we receive the average. For example if MP received 20 votes, both of us would actually have 10. So, in the interest of wanting to survive, I think we should try for one of his teammates.

I also strongly agree with Stormcrow FWIW. I think he is a baddie mcbadderson

Also, a question for Timmer.. quote this with a

if you are aware of how stinkor affects your vote.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:28 am**

blindfaeth wrote:alright, so to paraphrase,

today's lynch is going to be a mess. TBH this scares the crap out of me, I totally understand now why we never lynch who we intend to. LOL

Votes are going to shift down on the poll. IE, votes for Aces will go to me, votes for me will go to DP, etc etc.

Second. We could try to lynch MP today, but if we do, there is a very real chance I could die. Because whatever votes the two of us have, we receive the average. For example if MP received 20 votes, both of us would actually have 10. So, in the interest of wanting to survive, I think we should try for one of his teammates.

I also strongly agree with Stormcrow FWIW. I think he is a baddie mcbadderson

Also, a question for Timmer.. quote this with a if you are aware of how stinkor affects your vote.

Movingpicturs Blindfaeth (e) cards support the vote, death with all the safety

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:31 am**

Blindvaith movingbiktorac request dead death lead to the wall!

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:51 am**

Blindvaith no problem!

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:59 am**

Today, Gina Blindvaith immunitzad. Movingbiktorac, who passes away today! In my opinion, I believe. But I know that I do not know what they are doing. There is also an option. If you have the voice and the eye to kill the man in tights!

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:00 am**

hopefully, things will be smelling a lot better around here soon

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:05 am**

LittleTiger wrote:hopefully, things will be smelling a lot better around here soon

I think Tiger can explain why women and Blindfaeth today, the Republic of Chile and Miguel Angel idea!!!

Don't be afraid to say, Blindfaeth. Protection!

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:18 am**

blindfaeth wrote:alright, so to paraphrase,

today's lynch is going to be a mess. TBH this scares the crap out of me, I totally understand now why we never lynch who we intend to. LOL

Votes are going to shift down on the poll. IE, votes for Aces will go to me, votes for me will go to DP, etc etc.

Second. We could try to lynch MP today, but if we do, there is a very real chance I could die. Because whatever votes the two of us have, we receive the average. For example if MP received 20 votes, both of us would actually have 10. So, in the interest of wanting to survive, I think we should try for one of his teammates.

I also strongly agree with Stormcrow FWIW. I think he is a baddie mcbadderson

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:33 am**

Hi there. Let me clear a few things up:

Firstly, I'm a girl, not a boy.

Secondly, I haven't voted on every lynch - I've missed some due to university .

Thirdly, because I am new to this and unsure of what to post, I post little.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:43 am**

Since I have been asked:

You are permitted to paraphrase what Shokoti said to you (i.e., no copying and pasting Host PMs as is usual etiquette.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:26 am**

Sorry Stormcrow! Thanks for letting me know you're a girl. People make that mistake about me too so I understand the frustration.

Second, I know being new to mafia can be intimidating, but there are other players who are completely new to mafia this game as well and they have still actively posted. But actively posting does draw attention to yourself and so not posting is a clever tactic to go unnoticed for awhile which I think you've successfully done, until now.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:30 am**

I am seeking a replacement in MacGyver~ we are in night 3, 3 dead, 13 alive, so plenty of life left in the game. It is pretty cheesy, and I promise you it will get cheesier very soon

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:33 am**

Flyin' High wrote:Sorry Stormcrow! Thanks for letting me know you're a girl. People make that mistake about me too so I understand the frustration.

Second, I know being new to mafia can be intimidating, but there are other players who are completely new to mafia this game as well and they have still actively posted. But actively posting does draw attention to yourself and so not posting is a clever tactic to go unnoticed for awhile which I think you've successfully done, until now.

I will try and participate more.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:35 am**

blindfaeth wrote:alright, so to paraphrase,

today's lynch is going to be a mess. TBH this scares the crap out of me, I totally understand now why we never lynch who we intend to. LOL

Votes are going to shift down on the poll. IE, votes for Aces will go to me, votes for me will go to DP, etc etc.

Second. We could try to lynch MP today, but if we do, there is a very real chance I could die. Because whatever votes the two of us have, we receive the average. For example if MP received 20 votes, both of us would actually have 10. So, in the interest of wanting to survive, I think we should try for one of his teammates.

I also strongly agree with Stormcrow FWIW. I think he is a baddie mcbadderson

Also, a question for Timmer.. quote this with a if you are aware of how stinkor affects your vote.

This is nerve-wracking indeed. We should definitely all plan to vote strategically and discuss how to place votes in order to catch a baddie today, preferably Horde, but since Snake Mountain kills tonight, nabbing one of them wouldn't be bad either.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:41 am**

Yes sorry stormcrow all it takes is a correction once for me.

I had the same problem starting out, based on my screename everyone thought i was a girl.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:15 am**

blindfaeth wrote:Yes sorry stormcrow all it takes is a correction once for me.

I had the same problem starting out, based on my screename everyone thought i was a girl.

I usually just refrain from saying any "He"s or "She"s until i actually know the person's gender

I think LT may have a good point with Ishar or the untamed being part of the horde, i dont know if they'd have so many people left without SOME people flying way under the radar. I also agree, I think SC would be a really good place to look next if we decide against looking at no-shows

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:16 am**

Also RIP juliets

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:44 pm**

woo-hoo!

Apparently somebody used something and canceled out my stinkiness so thanks for that!

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:51 pm**

So what I've been trying to say, bf, is that i believe your information about vote-evening-out is correct, but it is incomplete, and that you really don't have to worry about dying today, even if everyone put their votes on mp7.

but I'm curious about your other point, about this lynch having every vote actually going to the person below on the lynch poll. I know nothing about that, so you're saying that to lynch mp7, theoretically, we would all have to vote littletiger? Does anyone else have this information to corroborate?

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:02 pm**

I would rather we didn't try that experiment

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:19 pm**

LittleTiger wrote:I would rather we didn't try that experiment

I'm leery of the idea as well, unless some others can corroborate.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:26 pm**

timmer wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:I would rather we didn't try that experiment
I'm leery of the idea as well, unless some others can corroborate.

Ditto.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:30 pm**

So I see no point in not sharing the information i got from choosing "skull".

There is only one snake Mountain player left, and four Horde.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:34 pm**

Fh I think you convinced me that indiglo is definitely bad.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:53 pm**

Flyin' High wrote:This is nerve-wracking indeed. We should definitely all plan to vote strategically and discuss how to place votes in order to catch a baddie today, preferably Horde, but since Snake Mountain kills tonight, nabbing one of them wouldn't be bad either.

I've been wondering if we might be wrong about Dom.

I'm told that there is only one Snake Mountain member left. We've all thought Dom was Snake Mountain. But Dom would never go this long without posting, but still send in his night kills. He just wouldn't play that way. So unless we get a sign that Snake Mountain hasn't been sending in their kills, I'd say Dom cannot be Snake Mountain. Does that make sense?

And as for them killing tonight, if we did manage to lynch the last snake Mountain member, the kill would simply flip to the Horde I think, so it's no real gain.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:54 pm**

What's the case on indiglo?

If indi is bad, it would make for a good lynch, because if our votes DO shift downwards as one member suggests they will, the worstcase scenario is that the absent ishar person dies, and they are likely bad, so it is a win/win.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:58 pm**

timmer wrote:And as for them killing tonight, if we did manage to lynch the last snake Mountain member, the kill would simply flip to the Horde I think, so it's no real gain.

An evil team will not inherit the other team's kill.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:51 pm**

timmer wrote:
I've been wondering if we might be wrong about Dom.

I'm told that there is only one Snake Mountain member left. We've all thought Dom was Snake Mountain. But Dom would never go this long without posting, but still send in his night kills. He just wouldn't play that way. So unless we get a sign that Snake Mountain hasn't been sending in their kills, I'd say Dom cannot be Snake Mountain. Does that make sense?

Perhaps dom is horde?

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:46 pm**

It's been so long I can't even remember the case against him.

But if as Epig says, the Horde won't inherit Snake Mountain's kill, we owe it to ourselves to try to get the last Snake Mountaineer. Fewer deaths = worth it.

if we cannot figure out the last Mountaineer though, I'm in favour of another MP7 lynch.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:48 pm**

Kate wrote:Fh I think you convinced me that indiglo is definitely bad.

What makes you think this?

timmer wrote:So what I've been trying to say, bf, is that i believe your information about vote-evening-out is correct, but it is incomplete, and that you really don't have to worry about dying today, even if everyone put their votes on mp7.

but I'm curious about your other point, about this lynch having every vote actually going to the person below on the lynch poll. I know nothing about that, so you're saying that to lynch mp7, theoretically, we would all have to vote littletiger? Does anyone else have this information to corroborate?

I trust BF on what he says about the weird lynch shenanigans in play today. So for example, if we want to lynch Stormcrow today, we need to vote for spaghetti.

I am not ready to attempt another MP lynch because I think I might flip out entirely if he survives and we've gone 3 whole days without successfully lynching a mafia.

Timmer, what you say about there being one snake mountain left is very interesting! And it does make me think we were incorrect to assume Dom was Snake Mountain based on the way his lynch survival was written. He can't have been sending PMs in because he hasn't logged on since March 8th. It also makes me wonder if someone we've been trusting is Snake Mountain, or if one of the quieter people is Snake Mountain. Maybe reywaS?

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:06 pm**

FH, had you picked the same thing as bf in the last night poll? Do you trust what he says because of that, or for other reasons?

I'm leaning towards the last Mountaineer being someone either laying low or who has been active but not taken any heat. rey has been very quiet, as has DP. I'm not getting civvie vibes from either of them, tbh, but I've got nothing concrete on either one.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:16 pm**

Here is what I think:

MP, Ishar, Spaghetti = Horde. The 4th one is probably one of this group: BF, FH, reywaS, Kate, or Timmer.

DH was killed by Snake Mountain on N9 thus we can conclude that either juliets was Snake Mountain and so is Dom, or we are wrong about Dom.

Thoughts?

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:17 pm**

Oh, and I completely forgot about Aces!

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:19 pm**

timmer wrote:FH, had you picked the same thing as bf in the last night poll? Do you trust what he says because of that, or for other reasons?

I'm leaning towards the last Mountaineer being someone either laying low or who has been active but not taken any heat. rey has been very quiet, as has DP. I'm not getting civvie vibes from either of them, tbh, but I've got nothing concrete on either one.

I did not pick the Knife last night, I picked the Lovers.

As for rey, I do not think he's civvie. And I'm pretty sure he's not Horde either. But I can't rule him out as being Snake Mountain. And finding out that there's only one Snake Mountaineer left really makes me think that it's someone who has been participating, but just enough to get by.

DP could be a possibility too I suppose, but I'm not sure.

Linki: LT, why do you think Stormcrow isn't Horde. Because I am pretty darn certain she is.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:34 pm**

Flyin' High wrote:
timmer wrote:FH, had you picked the same thing as bf in the last night poll? Do you trust what he says because of that, or for other reasons?

I'm leaning towards the last Mountaineer being someone either laying low or who has been active but not taken any heat. rey has been very quiet, as has DP. I'm not getting civvie vibes from either of them, tbh, but I've got nothing concrete on either one.
I did not pick the Knife last night, I picked the Lovers.

As for rey, I do not think he's civvie. And I'm pretty sure he's not Horde either. But I can't rule him out as being Snake Mountain. And finding out that there's only one Snake Mountaineer left really makes me think that it's someone who has been participating, but just enough to get by.

DP could be a possibility too I suppose, but I'm not sure.

Linki: LT, why do you think Stormcrow isn't Horde. Because I am pretty darn certain she is.

I based my list on vote records. Also, if she were horde, I think that I would have been lynched last Day. BUT with all the shenanigans going on in this game, I guess I could be wrong.

I should also mention I have come by some info which indicates that Horde has found a way to protect themselves at night and also to zero out two people's votes each day.

In addition, during the last day period, I was tied to Spaghetti in the lynch poll - any votes for either of us would have been averaged between us. Storm Crow's vote was worth 4. I was expecting Storm Crow to vote me or Spaghetti.

So, now that we know someone ELSE is tied to Spaghetti for this day - what does that make Spaghetti? I think it makes Spaghetti mafia and an unpalatable lynch candidate.

Oh, I also know that Indiglo is hexed and will vote Timmer - therefore, neither of them are Snake Mountain.

Posted: **Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:41 pm**

Well I suppose the only only person who could corroborate is aces, mp also voted the knife but he thats wifom central lol. And in fact I am interested in seeing ihow aces reacts to see if hes trustworthy. As far as the other stuff is concerned, I think voting spaghetti might be a good idea. If im not telling the truth about votes shifting down, we get spaghetti, and if I an telling the truth, we stormcrow. Id also be willing to put myself on the line since I split votes with mp, if what timmer says is true, that ill survive. If voting aces to get this effect makes ppl more comfortable then voting LT, thats another option.

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