Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 4
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:28 pm
Nothing good ever happens to Hufflepuff.
He was probably waiting to use it on a supahtown.
Yeah DH and after you do could you explain to me what went on last night with speed and quin? So confused...
Wow. I'm way lost.
Ay yo [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention], pay your bills mateColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:21 pm Can someone tag this with the quote feature and say “Pay your bills” please, so I see it when I get home tonight? Whoever does it is town
[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] @jay, how would each of you rank these suspects from least to most suspicious?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:25 pmMy POE is the same, except Luna is swapped for Jack.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:24 pm Remaining scum are in this pile: INH, Speed, Sloonei, Quin, Luna, sprit. Objections?
This is the Quin/speed thing.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:48 pm Let's make another summary:
Quin's claim: Expecto Patronum directed at Timmer and Sloonei. <Patronus> Blocks redirects and other dark arts for Quin, Timmer, Sloonei.
Speed's claim: Quin visited Long Con.
For both claims to be true:
Timmer had to use a diricawl on Long Con. Didn't happen, or I'd have seen it. Timmer also denies it. NOT POSSIBLE.
OR
A redirector had to target (my floo partner), aiming to redirect them at Timmer for some reason. I got caught in it instead. I got directed at Timmer, and saw Quin there with ???. This adds an extra scum night action when we already know they did a lot of things. It also nails my other spotted suspect as scum. NEAR IMPOSSIBLE.
Quin is lying. His story doesn't make sense, he targeted Sloonei for some reason, he only revealed one target at first.
I am almost certain that Quin tried to Patronus Long Con and my other visitor broke through it with the Elder Wand. Surprisingly, it requires the least assumptions.
JJJ's list is better.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:26 pm@ColinIsCool @jay, how would each of you rank these suspects from least to most suspicious?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:25 pmMy POE is the same, except Luna is swapped for Jack.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:24 pm Remaining scum are in this pile: INH, Speed, Sloonei, Quin, Luna, sprit. Objections?
@anyone else, do you have any objections to these lists in any way?
Why is it better? How would you rank the suspects?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:28 pmJJJ's list is better.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:26 pm@ColinIsCool @jay, how would each of you rank these suspects from least to most suspicious?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:25 pmMy POE is the same, except Luna is swapped for Jack.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:24 pm Remaining scum are in this pile: INH, Speed, Sloonei, Quin, Luna, sprit. Objections?
@anyone else, do you have any objections to these lists in any way?
Otherwise, no objections.
Ironically, if Quin did summon a patronus for Long Con, then timmer really did waste it by declining to pull the trigger last night. So Quin's complaint was valid.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:48 pm I am almost certain that Quin tried to Patronus Long Con and my other visitor broke through it with the Elder Wand. Surprisingly, it requires the least assumptions.
*volunteers*JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:38 pmLeast to most:
karavalenge
Jackofhearts2005
sprityo
Slowner
Quin
speedzeye
INH is redundant. I need to remove one name from my pool to feel comfortable.
Brilliant.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:33 pmIronically, if Quin did summon a patronus for Long Con, then timmer really did waste it by declining to pull the trigger last night. So Quin's complaint was valid.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:48 pm I am almost certain that Quin tried to Patronus Long Con and my other visitor broke through it with the Elder Wand. Surprisingly, it requires the least assumptions.![]()
The only difference is switching out Jack and Luna. Jack is a better suspect than Luna IMO. Not loads better, but better.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:32 pmWhy is it better? How would you rank the suspects?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:28 pmJJJ's list is better.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:26 pm@ColinIsCool @jay, how would each of you rank these suspects from least to most suspicious?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:25 pmMy POE is the same, except Luna is swapped for Jack.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:24 pm Remaining scum are in this pile: INH, Speed, Sloonei, Quin, Luna, sprit. Objections?
@anyone else, do you have any objections to these lists in any way?
Otherwise, no objections.
I beat JJJ to the punch, making POE lists. I'd say right now I suspect Quin more and Sloonei slightly less than I did.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:24 am Jay - town because he doesn't bus teammates in the same way he did INH
nutella - town because tone and meta and everything else basically
DH - Town because he is
Mac - Pisses me off. Town because tone. Mafia because upset with vig kills and promoting bogus theories. Waffles.
poutanko - Town because she is sweet and innocent and has good scum interactions and because no scum would fake a cop check right now right?
Quin - Possible liar, unless he was misdirected. Townread otherwise.
Colin - Town because cop check and I've been reading him town all game. Cares about the roof.
kara - Town because genuine emotion in early posts
Jack - Weakest townread for me, but seems genuine
Luna - Town because she's made way more mistakes than she does as scum
Sloonei - Was only town because lack of self-preservation. Long Con flip changes that. Fake, scum, blegh
sprityo - No reason to townread whatsoever
timmer - Still town yo
speed - No corruption, Rigged witch hunt (seriously vig me tonight so you can use my analysis and info)
INH - Scum
Guessing that there are at most 6 scum. Long Con, INH, Nova, Sloonei, and two of (Mac, Quin, Sprit)
Game solved.
If you were town and I was scum I'd be staying the heck away TBH. You got too much bite for me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:46 pm Speedchuck c'mon. You would never be suspicious of me if you were town.
You just gotta bite back. Mac loves it when you nibble.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:48 pmIf you were town and I was scum I'd be staying the heck away TBH. You got too much bite for me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:46 pm Speedchuck c'mon. You would never be suspicious of me if you were town.
Summarise your suspicion of me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:48 pmIf you were town and I was scum I'd be staying the heck away TBH. You got too much bite for me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:46 pm Speedchuck c'mon. You would never be suspicious of me if you were town.
What will happen to either of Quin/speed if the other flips scum?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:38 pmLeast to most:
karavalenge
Jackofhearts2005
sprityo
Slowner
Quin
speedzeye
INH is redundant. I need to remove one name from my pool to feel comfortable.
What will happen to either of Quin/speed if the other flips scum?
speed could you be more specific about what your floo partner did or are you saying he was a target? And if you are saying your floo partner was the re-director who does he/she say they re-directed? Thats the part I'm confused about. Thank you.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:27 pmThis is the Quin/speed thing.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:48 pm Let's make another summary:
Quin's claim: Expecto Patronum directed at Timmer and Sloonei. <Patronus> Blocks redirects and other dark arts for Quin, Timmer, Sloonei.
Speed's claim: Quin visited Long Con.
For both claims to be true:
Timmer had to use a diricawl on Long Con. Didn't happen, or I'd have seen it. Timmer also denies it. NOT POSSIBLE.
OR
A redirector had to target (my floo partner), aiming to redirect them at Timmer for some reason. I got caught in it instead. I got directed at Timmer, and saw Quin there with ???. This adds an extra scum night action when we already know they did a lot of things. It also nails my other spotted suspect as scum. NEAR IMPOSSIBLE.
Quin is lying. His story doesn't make sense, he targeted Sloonei for some reason, he only revealed one target at first.
I am almost certain that Quin tried to Patronus Long Con and my other visitor broke through it with the Elder Wand. Surprisingly, it requires the least assumptions.
If you have questions, @juliets, you know where to find me
Why is Sloonei such a strong suspect? Why is Quin so marginal given his apparent contradiction of your night actions? Who would be the most likely partners for Quin if we assume he is a dirty rotten liar? Do you have anything more specific to say about Jack?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:42 pm Jay - town because he doesn't bus teammates in the same way he did INH
nutella - town because tone and meta and everything else basically
DH - Town because he is
Mac - Pisses me off. Town because tone. Mafia because upset with vig kills and promoting bogus theories. Waffles.
poutanko - Town because she is sweet and innocent and has good scum interactions and because no scum would fake a cop check right now right?
Quin - Possible liar, unless he was misdirected. Townread otherwise.
Colin - Town because cop check and I've been reading him town all game. Cares about the roof.
kara - Town because genuine emotion in early posts
Jack - Weakest townread for me, but seems genuine
Luna - Town because she's made way more mistakes than she does as scum
Sloonei - Was only town because lack of self-preservation. Long Con flip changes that. Fake, scum, blegh
sprityo - No reason to townread whatsoever
timmer - Still town yo
speed - No corruption, Rigged witch hunt (seriously vig me tonight so you can use my analysis and info)
INH - Scum
My floo partner (who can out themselves if they wish) said that they used a diricawl on me night 3.
Your attitude surrounding the night vigs set me off. Felt like you were putting a downer on town, and like you were frustrated with the results.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:53 pmSummarise your suspicion of me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:48 pmIf you were town and I was scum I'd be staying the heck away TBH. You got too much bite for me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:46 pm Speedchuck c'mon. You would never be suspicious of me if you were town.
Owner's suspicions seemed fake back on Day 1. I scumread her, and only ended up switching to a townread because of her unwillingness to save herself from the lynch. Long Con saved her instead, and that puts a damper on my read.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:00 pmWhy is Sloonei such a strong suspect? Why is Quin so marginal given his apparent contradiction of your night actions? Who would be the most likely partners for Quin if we assume he is a dirty rotten liar? Do you have anything more specific to say about Jack?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:42 pm Jay - town because he doesn't bus teammates in the same way he did INH
nutella - town because tone and meta and everything else basically
DH - Town because he is
Mac - Pisses me off. Town because tone. Mafia because upset with vig kills and promoting bogus theories. Waffles.
poutanko - Town because she is sweet and innocent and has good scum interactions and because no scum would fake a cop check right now right?
Quin - Possible liar, unless he was misdirected. Townread otherwise.
Colin - Town because cop check and I've been reading him town all game. Cares about the roof.
kara - Town because genuine emotion in early posts
Jack - Weakest townread for me, but seems genuine
Luna - Town because she's made way more mistakes than she does as scum
Sloonei - Was only town because lack of self-preservation. Long Con flip changes that. Fake, scum, blegh
sprityo - No reason to townread whatsoever
timmer - Still town yo
speed - No corruption, Rigged witch hunt (seriously vig me tonight so you can use my analysis and info)
INH - Scum
I'm not convinced on Sloonei and Luna. I can understand why some people suspect Luna. Are people suspecting Sloonei based on LC's vote for Turnip? Or are there other things I'm not remembering?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:28 pmJJJ's list is better.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:26 pm@ColinIsCool @jay, how would each of you rank these suspects from least to most suspicious?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:25 pmMy POE is the same, except Luna is swapped for Jack.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:24 pm Remaining scum are in this pile: INH, Speed, Sloonei, Quin, Luna, sprit. Objections?
@anyone else, do you have any objections to these lists in any way?
Otherwise, no objections.
I'm not convinced on Luna either, though I am terrible at reading her. I've thought her town for a while.
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speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:42 pm I would still throw Mac on the list, personallt. I'd forgotten about that. Replace me with Mac on JJJ's list.
No you didn't.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:43 pm Absolute awe that I sniffed out Long Con on a whim. I literally was like "Fuck I gotta do all these read backs lemme start with Long Con, Oh shit this guy is bad lol got em"
Putting a downer on town and being frustrated with the results ay? Nah I don't buy it.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:03 pmYour attitude surrounding the night vigs set me off. Felt like you were putting a downer on town, and like you were frustrated with the results.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:53 pmSummarise your suspicion of me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:48 pmIf you were town and I was scum I'd be staying the heck away TBH. You got too much bite for me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:46 pm Speedchuck c'mon. You would never be suspicious of me if you were town.
Otherwise you've seemed town.
Oh gee you don't agree with my case I wonder whyMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:29 pmPutting a downer on town and being frustrated with the results ay? Nah I don't buy it.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:03 pmYour attitude surrounding the night vigs set me off. Felt like you were putting a downer on town, and like you were frustrated with the results.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:53 pmSummarise your suspicion of me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:48 pmIf you were town and I was scum I'd be staying the heck away TBH. You got too much bite for me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:46 pm Speedchuck c'mon. You would never be suspicious of me if you were town.
Otherwise you've seemed town.
Was this question ever answered?
"case"speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:41 pmOh gee you don't agree with my case I wonder whyMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:29 pmPutting a downer on town and being frustrated with the results ay? Nah I don't buy it.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:03 pmYour attitude surrounding the night vigs set me off. Felt like you were putting a downer on town, and like you were frustrated with the results.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:53 pmSummarise your suspicion of me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:48 pmIf you were town and I was scum I'd be staying the heck away TBH. You got too much bite for me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:46 pm Speedchuck c'mon. You would never be suspicious of me if you were town.
Otherwise you've seemed town.