Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[Long Con]

Don’t yell at me Hally

why would i yell at you

Hey keep that font size down missy

[Long Con]

i almost feel like tony pushing me here is like a perspective slip because if he knows himself to be town i should be like lock town to him for pushing back on his wagon D1 when i easily could have let him die. him focusing on how i was apparently trying to steer away from wilgy seems extremely weird when i think it should be obvious particularly to him that what i was actually doing was trying to steer away from him, which i feel like should be obvious because he was the main wagon up until trip overtook him

i mean, its not actually a perspective slip but like idk. it feels weird

Could be seen as a scum Hally voting for the person less likely to care what she does, while saving someone that she can keep in the thread for buddying purposes.

From that perspective, this post from you could be seen as disappointment and resentment that it didn't work.

you guys are really twisting yourselves into pretzels trying to sr me and you should stop

Not at all. Just keeping an open mind.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Don’t yell at me Hally

why would i yell at you

Cause of my “TSP doesn’t fit neatly with anyone so he’s probably town” read kek

[Hally]

like i feel like people are like contorting themselves to try to find reasons i could be mafia because you’re all so paranoid of me that you can’t see im the most blatantly obvious villager in the game

[Hally]

Don’t yell at me Hally

why would i yell at you

Cause of my “TSP doesn’t fit neatly with anyone so he’s probably town” read kek

i don’t think there’s anything wrong with that thought process

[Long Con]

like i feel like people are like contorting themselves to try to find reasons i could be mafia because you’re all so paranoid of me that you can’t see im the most blatantly obvious villager in the game

I have to be straight with you here, that kind of statement has never had even the tiniest bit of effect on my read. It means nothing to me, and I'm not saying that in a "you are worthless" way at all, it's only that I don't have the right perspective to understand "blatantly obvious villager" as a concept.

[Long Con]

Hally, can you recall a recent scum game?

[Ash Lael]

Hally, can you recall a recent scum game?

The champs finale?

[Hally]

like scum!hally does not just sit around not finding anyone to push. im more than capable of bs’ing pushes as mafia. this lack of confidence and struggling to sr people is something that could only come from town!hally. like i have people willing to sheep any vote i make and instead of killing literally anyone i want im just sitting here being like “idk maybe flip wilgy aghjnnk.” literally could not be my scum game no matter how hard you try to make it

[Hally]

Hally, can you recall a recent scum game?

there was a pretty major one recently yea >_>

[Hally]

like does anyone actually believe i would 700 post in a game as scum only to then use my clout to kill... trip and wilgy. surely i can aim higher if im a wolf lol

[Ash Lael]

like scum!hally does not just sit around not finding anyone to push. im more than capable of bs’ing pushes as mafia. this lack of confidence and struggling to sr people is something that could only come from town!hally. like i have people willing to sheep any vote i make and instead of killing literally anyone i want im just sitting here being like “idk maybe flip wilgy aghjnnk.” literally could not be my scum game no matter how hard you try to make it

Given the bolded, maybe you're underestimating how much the game DOES see you as a blatantly obvious villager.

[Hally]

like scum!hally does not just sit around not finding anyone to push. im more than capable of bs’ing pushes as mafia. this lack of confidence and struggling to sr people is something that could only come from town!hally. like i have people willing to sheep any vote i make and instead of killing literally anyone i want im just sitting here being like “idk maybe flip wilgy aghjnnk.” literally could not be my scum game no matter how hard you try to make it

Given the bolded, maybe you're underestimating how much the game DOES see you as a blatantly obvious villager.

idk its confusing to me because i have some people that are just like jumping to vote with me and then other people that seem like they almost want me to be scum. but it’s fine. im just trying to help you guys read me really. idk of it’s actually helping though

[Long Con]

Hally, can you recall a recent scum game?

there was a pretty major one recently yea >_>

That would be the Champs game Ash referenced? Were you a lower poster in that? How is it different than your usual town play?

[Long Con]

like scum!hally does not just sit around not finding anyone to push. im more than capable of bs’ing pushes as mafia. this lack of confidence and struggling to sr people is something that could only come from town!hally. like i have people willing to sheep any vote i make and instead of killing literally anyone i want im just sitting here being like “idk maybe flip wilgy aghjnnk.” literally could not be my scum game no matter how hard you try to make it

Given the bolded, maybe you're underestimating how much the game DOES see you as a blatantly obvious villager.

idk its confusing to me because i have some people that are just like jumping to vote with me and then other people that seem like they almost want me to be scum. but it’s fine. im just trying to help you guys read me really. idk of it’s actually helping though

Pretty sure I listed you as town in my reads list?

[Hally]

Hally, can you recall a recent scum game?

there was a pretty major one recently yea >_>

That would be the Champs game Ash referenced? Were you a lower poster in that? How is it different than your usual town play?

idk i was a lowerish poster mostly because i was more busy and the game was extremely big and dense and i didn’t have enough time to keep up with it. but with the time i did have i managed to be a universal town read until i was red checked d3 and the walls caved in

[Hally]

like scum!hally does not just sit around not finding anyone to push. im more than capable of bs’ing pushes as mafia. this lack of confidence and struggling to sr people is something that could only come from town!hally. like i have people willing to sheep any vote i make and instead of killing literally anyone i want im just sitting here being like “idk maybe flip wilgy aghjnnk.” literally could not be my scum game no matter how hard you try to make it

Given the bolded, maybe you're underestimating how much the game DOES see you as a blatantly obvious villager.

idk its confusing to me because i have some people that are just like jumping to vote with me and then other people that seem like they almost want me to be scum. but it’s fine. im just trying to help you guys read me really. idk of it’s actually helping though

Pretty sure I listed you as town in my reads list?

then why are you making posts to me positing how i could be mafia. if you think im town you don’t have to make those posts

[Hally]

i also was just scum in the lgbt game alison ran and won it. but that game was... unique in that scum only needed two mislims to win and it was a very inactive game

[Hally]

why are we talking about me so much. like unless people are actually pushing for me to be eliminated today can we stop talking about me and start talking about people we actually do want to eliminate and who could actually be sum

[Hally]

like is focusing on me actually helping anyone solve the game? does anyone really believe im mafia? or like, what are we doing here

[Ash Lael]

why are we talking about me so much. like unless people are actually pushing for me to be eliminated today can we stop talking about me and start talking about people we actually do want to eliminate and who could actually be sum

Okay, let's talk Michelle.

Do you think she's being towny?

[Hally]

why are we talking about me so much. like unless people are actually pushing for me to be eliminated today can we stop talking about me and start talking about people we actually do want to eliminate and who could actually be sum

Okay, let's talk Michelle.

Do you think she's being towny?

i don’t know. i was actually just thinking about that when she made that post voting you. and my instinct was that i didn’t like it, but i don’t really know why. and i can see how she could be town and do think she’s trending up but at the same time feel like something is still missing maybe? like perhaps her focus is too narrow or something? i honestly don’t know. like idk if she’s as towny as id like her to be but i also... kinda feel like shes out of her scum range honestly. maybe im short changing her scum game too much but currently she’s posting better than both times ive seen her as scum

[Hally]

so ig in summary, i still lean town for her and expect that if she is in fact town she’ll continue to get townier as the game gets smaller

[Long Con]

Hally, can you recall a recent scum game?

there was a pretty major one recently yea >_>

That would be the Champs game Ash referenced? Were you a lower poster in that? How is it different than your usual town play?

idk i was a lowerish poster mostly because i was more busy and the game was extremely big and dense and i didn’t have enough time to keep up with it. but with the time i did have i managed to be a universal town read until i was red checked d3 and the walls caved in

So you were a Blatantly Obvious Villager until some player decided to cop you? I'm not trying to be hard on you, but how can you claim BOV when your scum game looks the same? Does that work? Does it work when you're scum? Have you ever said something like that when you were scum?

Just consider all those questions rhetorical, because I don't want to make a big thing out of it. Kind of making a point, if you get it then that's enough.

like scum!hally does not just sit around not finding anyone to push. im more than capable of bs’ing pushes as mafia. this lack of confidence and struggling to sr people is something that could only come from town!hally. like i have people willing to sheep any vote i make and instead of killing literally anyone i want im just sitting here being like “idk maybe flip wilgy aghjnnk.” literally could not be my scum game no matter how hard you try to make it

Given the bolded, maybe you're underestimating how much the game DOES see you as a blatantly obvious villager.

idk its confusing to me because i have some people that are just like jumping to vote with me and then other people that seem like they almost want me to be scum. but it’s fine. im just trying to help you guys read me really. idk of it’s actually helping though

Pretty sure I listed you as town in my reads list?

then why are you making posts to me positing how i could be mafia. if you think im town you don’t have to make those posts

Because I am wrong a lot, so my reads are not so locked in that I refuse to question them, AND, the posts I made were the thoughts I had when I read yours. So I shared them. I don't know why you are getting so worked up about them. I better slow down here. Any more attempts at solving on my part and I'm yeeted for sure today, right?

[Hally]

ig like, i could see michelle as scum here. like she’s in a similar category for me as like tony/ted/you/112 where like, yes i could see her as scum whos just playing well but i could also easily see her as town

[Hally]

you being ash

[Hally]

Hally, can you recall a recent scum game?

there was a pretty major one recently yea >_>

That would be the Champs game Ash referenced? Were you a lower poster in that? How is it different than your usual town play?

idk i was a lowerish poster mostly because i was more busy and the game was extremely big and dense and i didn’t have enough time to keep up with it. but with the time i did have i managed to be a universal town read until i was red checked d3 and the walls caved in

So you were a Blatantly Obvious Villager until some player decided to cop you? I'm not trying to be hard on you, but how can you claim BOV when your scum game looks the same? Does that work? Does it work when you're scum? Have you ever said something like that when you were scum?

Just consider all those questions rhetorical, because I don't want to make a big thing out of it. Kind of making a point, if you get it then that's enough.

like scum!hally does not just sit around not finding anyone to push. im more than capable of bs’ing pushes as mafia. this lack of confidence and struggling to sr people is something that could only come from town!hally. like i have people willing to sheep any vote i make and instead of killing literally anyone i want im just sitting here being like “idk maybe flip wilgy aghjnnk.” literally could not be my scum game no matter how hard you try to make it

Given the bolded, maybe you're underestimating how much the game DOES see you as a blatantly obvious villager.

idk its confusing to me because i have some people that are just like jumping to vote with me and then other people that seem like they almost want me to be scum. but it’s fine. im just trying to help you guys read me really. idk of it’s actually helping though

Pretty sure I listed you as town in my reads list?

then why are you making posts to me positing how i could be mafia. if you think im town you don’t have to make those posts

Because I am wrong a lot, so my reads are not so locked in that I refuse to question them, AND, the posts I made were the thoughts I had when I read yours. So I shared them. I don't know why you are getting so worked up about them. I better slow down here. Any more attempts at solving on my part and I'm yeeted for sure today, right?

idk lc im tired. honestly im kinda back to thinking you’re town and i don’t know what to do with that

[Hally]

im just voting wilgy for the rest of the day unless someone makes an amazing case on someone else

glgl

[Ash Lael]

why are we talking about me so much. like unless people are actually pushing for me to be eliminated today can we stop talking about me and start talking about people we actually do want to eliminate and who could actually be sum

Okay, let's talk Michelle.

Do you think she's being towny?

i don’t know. i was actually just thinking about that when she made that post voting you. and my instinct was that i didn’t like it, but i don’t really know why. and i can see how she could be town and do think she’s trending up but at the same time feel like something is still missing maybe? like perhaps her focus is too narrow or something? i honestly don’t know. like idk if she’s as towny as id like her to be but i also... kinda feel like shes out of her scum range honestly. maybe im short changing her scum game too much but currently she’s posting better than both times ive seen her as scum

I've been thinking about that vote and I think what pings me is that it doesn't have much connection with her earlier reasons for scumreading me? Like the conclusion has stayed the same but the reasoning changed.

Actually hold on I'm gonna backread her and see how accurate that is.

[Hally]

i think i should stop posting for a while because i honestly don’t think my presence is helping move this game forward. i need to stop smothering this thread and let others take the wheel

[Hally]

going to bed

gn all

[Long Con]

good night

[Ash Lael]

why are we talking about me so much. like unless people are actually pushing for me to be eliminated today can we stop talking about me and start talking about people we actually do want to eliminate and who could actually be sum

Okay, let's talk Michelle.

Do you think she's being towny?

i don’t know. i was actually just thinking about that when she made that post voting you. and my instinct was that i didn’t like it, but i don’t really know why. and i can see how she could be town and do think she’s trending up but at the same time feel like something is still missing maybe? like perhaps her focus is too narrow or something? i honestly don’t know. like idk if she’s as towny as id like her to be but i also... kinda feel like shes out of her scum range honestly. maybe im short changing her scum game too much but currently she’s posting better than both times ive seen her as scum

I've been thinking about that vote and I think what pings me is that it doesn't have much connection with her earlier reasons for scumreading me? Like the conclusion has stayed the same but the reasoning changed.

Actually hold on I'm gonna backread her and see how accurate that is.

Yeah so she was talking before about it being a gut read, and about me being agenda-y and shading her in a hidden way (it wan't really hidden I was straight up calling her a wolf but sure).

And yeah, you can have multiple reasons to scum read a person, that's fine. But also there's no reference or seeming awareness of her earlier read. It almost like she's mentally starting from scratch here rather than building on a foundation that already exists.

I don't know how good a thought this is, but there was something niggling me there and I wanted to try and articulate it.

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

actually considering pushing lc over wilgy next day, which is... not where i was like 30 min ago

I would vote Long Con, yes.

did you iso him? i know you have more experience with him than me so im curious about your read there

This is one I skimmed. I saw he said he would vote for me, so I took a peek.

Getting rid of low posters is good town play

I’m here to preach not to argue

Not good Day 1 play.

i agree, so why were you voting for me?

I liked Michelle's case.

I'd be interested to know what Long Con liked about Michelle's "case." It amounted to circular reasoning and "too many wolves."

Michelle's case for reference.

I, like Michelle, dislike an early certainty of reads. I didn't like how dunya was throwing shade at Michelle for trying a different style, it's a cheap shot, and I don't think delving into something like that, especially early, is particularly thoughtful scumhunting. I thought Michelle's criticism of dunya's "holier than thou tone" post in response to Ash was astute. At the end, Michelle challenges us to find reasons to townread dunya. Reading back over dunya's posts with that in mind, I could see them being scummy.

I don't recall this from you as a civilian. Or at all, really.

So Michelle is trying a new style. That V guy is trying a new style. I guess it is autumn now, isn't it?

I try it since long time, we didn't play lately so you don't know, but thanks for making me smile

why are we talking about me so much. like unless people are actually pushing for me to be eliminated today can we stop talking about me and start talking about people we actually do want to eliminate and who could actually be sum

Okay, let's talk Michelle.

Do you think she's being towny?

Let's talk Ash

[Michelle]

why are we talking about me so much. like unless people are actually pushing for me to be eliminated today can we stop talking about me and start talking about people we actually do want to eliminate and who could actually be sum

Okay, let's talk Michelle.

Do you think she's being towny?

i don’t know. i was actually just thinking about that when she made that post voting you. and my instinct was that i didn’t like it, but i don’t really know why. and i can see how she could be town and do think she’s trending up but at the same time feel like something is still missing maybe? like perhaps her focus is too narrow or something? i honestly don’t know. like idk if she’s as towny as id like her to be but i also... kinda feel like shes out of her scum range honestly. maybe im short changing her scum game too much but currently she’s posting better than both times ive seen her as scum

I've been thinking about that vote and I think what pings me is that it doesn't have much connection with her earlier reasons for scumreading me? Like the conclusion has stayed the same but the reasoning changed.

Actually hold on I'm gonna backread her and see how accurate that is.

Yeah so she was talking before about it being a gut read, and about me being agenda-y and shading her in a hidden way (it wan't really hidden I was straight up calling her a wolf but sure).

And yeah, you can have multiple reasons to scum read a person, that's fine. But also there's no reference or seeming awareness of her earlier read. It almost like she's mentally starting from scratch here rather than building on a foundation that already exists.

I don't know how good a thought this is, but there was something niggling me there and I wanted to try and articulate it.

Ok. Now what?

[TonyStarkPrime]

like does anyone actually believe i would 700 post in a game as scum only to then use my clout to kill... trip and wilgy. surely i can aim higher if im a wolf lol

mindset tell townie

[Ash Lael]

why are we talking about me so much. like unless people are actually pushing for me to be eliminated today can we stop talking about me and start talking about people we actually do want to eliminate and who could actually be sum

Okay, let's talk Michelle.

Do you think she's being towny?

i don’t know. i was actually just thinking about that when she made that post voting you. and my instinct was that i didn’t like it, but i don’t really know why. and i can see how she could be town and do think she’s trending up but at the same time feel like something is still missing maybe? like perhaps her focus is too narrow or something? i honestly don’t know. like idk if she’s as towny as id like her to be but i also... kinda feel like shes out of her scum range honestly. maybe im short changing her scum game too much but currently she’s posting better than both times ive seen her as scum

I've been thinking about that vote and I think what pings me is that it doesn't have much connection with her earlier reasons for scumreading me? Like the conclusion has stayed the same but the reasoning changed.

Actually hold on I'm gonna backread her and see how accurate that is.

Yeah so she was talking before about it being a gut read, and about me being agenda-y and shading her in a hidden way (it wan't really hidden I was straight up calling her a wolf but sure).

And yeah, you can have multiple reasons to scum read a person, that's fine. But also there's no reference or seeming awareness of her earlier read. It almost like she's mentally starting from scratch here rather than building on a foundation that already exists.

I don't know how good a thought this is, but there was something niggling me there and I wanted to try and articulate it.

Ok. Now what?

I dunno. Just putting my thoughts out in the universe I guess.

[tedxtr]

I've been getting bad vibes from Arete but haven't voted there because I like that they don't like Vulgard this game.

**** it

[VOTE: Arete] aubergine

What was this about?

[Ash Lael]

Michelle, earlier you said I looked like a scum too afraid to push for a mislynch.

Do you still think that?

[Poison]

Morning!

[Poison]

Michelle, I'm not replying to the mentioned quote or we'll end up having an argument all over again which would be bad.

[Long Con]

Poison help I'm being yeeted!

[Poison]

I think I'll start from Day 2 first, then look at the previous pages I missed.

[Poison]

Poison help I'm being yeeted!

Lemme look at your ISO, I don't even remember talking to you.

[Long Con]

Poison help I'm being yeeted!

Lemme look at your ISO, I don't even remember talking to you.

No wait, don't do that. It's lame.

[Poison]

PIT STOP IN PENZA

Friday, May 29th, 2020
5:23 a.m. MSK

I little-know industry secret is that a properly-operating sewer treatment plant does not, in fact, smell bad. Penza's sewer plant was clearly not operating properly as the travelers rolled past the plant on their way into town.

Sidney and Chelsea reassigned the pairings over a light breakfast and gradually sent pairs on their way. The instructions were simple- meet at the rendezvous point (the Penza Zoo) at 16:30 and keep a low profile. It was a much easier task to walk to the city zoo. It was just over 5 kilometers from where their train came to a rest. The first quarter mile was the most treacherous, with little to keep the travelers from looking out of place until they reached the sidewalks and traffic lights of the urban center.

After last night's drama, Sidney had hoped to avoid sending forth any groups of three. There were 16 of them after Pasha's plunge, but now they were an odd number again. Chelsea paced back and forth while Sidney examined Stanislav's body. No blood, and no visible signs of trauma until Sidney pulled down his neck gaiter.

"It's subtle," Sidney said, "but look at this bruising here."

"He was strangled?" Chelsea asked.

"Looks that way," Sidney sighed. "The train is noisy enough, and he bunked down here around these crates from most of the rest of us. Poor judgement and it cost him."

"So sad," Chelsea said. "I heard him telling the others about his story. He was a doctor in Krasnoyrask and saw a few colleagues get pushed out of windows when they tried to speak up about the Coronavirus. He was trying to get to the West to expose Russia's manipulation of their health statistics."

"And now he's a statistic. How fitting."

"Don't be so callous, Sidney," Chelsea teased. "Let's get moving."

"Yes, let's."

While Chelsea headed out with her walking partner, Sidney had to coax his partner for the day to get up to speed.

"Why so sluggish, comrade?" he asked.

"I do not feel well this morning," he replied. "I feel hot and sore all over."

"Feverish?" Sidney asked. "Well there's no better way to beat a fever than moving your ass before I shoot you in a Russian hell hole. Now go."

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tutuu is dead.

She was Stanislav Lebedeva, an escaped political prisoner and civvie doctor.

It is now Day 2.

You have 48 hours to eliminate someone.

tutuuu........ and a doc too....

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Don’t yell at me Hally

why would i yell at you

Cause of my “TSP doesn’t fit neatly with anyone so he’s probably town” read kek

i don’t think there’s anything wrong with that thought process

I know you don’t lol

It was supposed to be a joke cause I wouldn’t clear you for it last game and I’m using it this game

It isn’t funny now lolol

[Long Con]

Yes. Did you think she was really a PR? There was some discussion of that.

[Poison]

Yes. Did you think she was really a PR? There was some discussion of that.

I remember her claiming mafia then cop ? I didn't think much of it cause in radiohead game she claimed 3p (?)

[Poison]

it is time. lettuce kill lc

[VOTE: lc] aubergine

is it a follow up vote after ash's question? is LC a good PR hunter?