The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:39 am What game was made just scum in?

Jay's Bike game; Heist.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:39 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:39 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:38 am Let's put JJJ at L-1 just for the fun of it

why

actual reasons pls

Trust in me.

no

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:34 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:21 am Michelle, it's hard to remember your past games I've seen, but I don't think you ever come across as towny

I will give you a hint about how i come across, in my second mentor/mentee game, the town mentors could bet i am wolf, and i was villager.
And that was before Monstrman adviced me to play bolder as villager.
I think we never played together, or at least i don't remember.
I don't pay attention at my play to be townish, i rather need to receive answers from the thread than have an universally town read who is blurring my view over the game.

We've come across one another a couple times, you may have been in the last mafia game I played

What game was that?

Well I am IP banned from MU, I was about to look the game up but lol

nanook had a silent and mostly internal journey w/his read on esooa over the last 2 hours and i genuinely townread him for it a lot. it's something that he did not flex for townread at all but that still appeared to develop organically

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:39 am What game was made just scum in?

he linked some to me a few days ago. should be able to be found in his iso a page or two back

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:40 am nanook had a silent and mostly internal journey w/his read on esooa over the last 2 hours and i genuinely townread him for it a lot. it's something that he did not flex for townread at all but that still appeared to develop organically

I don't

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:40 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:34 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:21 am Michelle, it's hard to remember your past games I've seen, but I don't think you ever come across as towny

I will give you a hint about how i come across, in my second mentor/mentee game, the town mentors could bet i am wolf, and i was villager.
And that was before Monstrman adviced me to play bolder as villager.
I think we never played together, or at least i don't remember.
I don't pay attention at my play to be townish, i rather need to receive answers from the thread than have an universally town read who is blurring my view over the game.

We've come across one another a couple times, you may have been in the last mafia game I played

What game was that?

Well I am IP banned from MU, I was about to look the game up but lol

woah, whatd you do.

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:41 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:40 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:34 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:21 am Michelle, it's hard to remember your past games I've seen, but I don't think you ever come across as towny

I will give you a hint about how i come across, in my second mentor/mentee game, the town mentors could bet i am wolf, and i was villager.
And that was before Monstrman adviced me to play bolder as villager.
I think we never played together, or at least i don't remember.
I don't pay attention at my play to be townish, i rather need to receive answers from the thread than have an universally town read who is blurring my view over the game.

We've come across one another a couple times, you may have been in the last mafia game I played

What game was that?

Well I am IP banned from MU, I was about to look the game up but lol

woah, whatd you do.

Don't have the time, nor the care to explain such complications

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:40 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:34 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:21 am Michelle, it's hard to remember your past games I've seen, but I don't think you ever come across as towny

I will give you a hint about how i come across, in my second mentor/mentee game, the town mentors could bet i am wolf, and i was villager.
And that was before Monstrman adviced me to play bolder as villager.
I think we never played together, or at least i don't remember.
I don't pay attention at my play to be townish, i rather need to receive answers from the thread than have an universally town read who is blurring my view over the game.

We've come across one another a couple times, you may have been in the last mafia game I played

What game was that?

Well I am IP banned from MU, I was about to look the game up but lol

probably the Music mash, but that was like in Cretacic

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:42 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:40 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:34 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:21 am Michelle, it's hard to remember your past games I've seen, but I don't think you ever come across as towny

I will give you a hint about how i come across, in my second mentor/mentee game, the town mentors could bet i am wolf, and i was villager.
And that was before Monstrman adviced me to play bolder as villager.
I think we never played together, or at least i don't remember.
I don't pay attention at my play to be townish, i rather need to receive answers from the thread than have an universally town read who is blurring my view over the game.

We've come across one another a couple times, you may have been in the last mafia game I played

What game was that?

Well I am IP banned from MU, I was about to look the game up but lol

probably the Music mash, but that was like in Cretacic

music mash, lmao what a day that was in my life

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:40 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:31 am i kinda dont lime nut's defense of made since made is so obv scum, ngl

why would i side with my top mafia read on their relentless tunnel? like i know i said your push on him could be teammate wifom but atp i think youre kinda spewing him town. if you are town then he looks more scummy from your pov sure but i dont have that perspective and dont think you flip green. and i think michelle is far scummier here and dont really think theyre partnered

I see you already flipped me in your head and you are making associations based on that?
Did i interpret this correct, @ everyone?

Yes I should go to preflip jail bonk

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:34 am

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:29 am
id feel bad out of game if she was mischopped, since id be to blame but in game im unsure if she is actually town

yeah this just seems like a fake backtrack ngl

p a i n
esooa is my friend and when I joined the thread today everyone was at her throat. and if you think id lie about this then im actually offended since I put friends ahead of gameplay.

when i say that ellie's "tone" makes me worried about her being town, this type of post is exactly what i mean. the emotion just feels sincere

that doesn't mean i tr ellie - i still think she's most likely just scum. but i wanna put this paranoia out in the open so that it can be addressed lol

VC now

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:43 am

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:34 am

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:29 am
id feel bad out of game if she was mischopped, since id be to blame but in game im unsure if she is actually town

yeah this just seems like a fake backtrack ngl

p a i n
esooa is my friend and when I joined the thread today everyone was at her throat. and if you think id lie about this then im actually offended since I put friends ahead of gameplay.

when i say that ellie's "tone" makes me worried about her being town, this type of post is exactly what i mean. the emotion just feels sincere

that doesn't mean i tr ellie - i still think she's most likely just scum. but i wanna put this paranoia out in the open so that it can be addressed lol

yeah I get it too

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:40 am nanook had a silent and mostly internal journey w/his read on esooa over the last 2 hours and i genuinely townread him for it a lot. it's something that he did not flex for townread at all but that still appeared to develop organically

I’ll sheep it

lol Michelle that game was three years ago, does the meta stand up? lmao

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:43 am

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:34 am

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:29 am
id feel bad out of game if she was mischopped, since id be to blame but in game im unsure if she is actually town

yeah this just seems like a fake backtrack ngl

p a i n
esooa is my friend and when I joined the thread today everyone was at her throat. and if you think id lie about this then im actually offended since I put friends ahead of gameplay.

when i say that ellie's "tone" makes me worried about her being town, this type of post is exactly what i mean. the emotion just feels sincere

that doesn't mean i tr ellie - i still think she's most likely just scum. but i wanna put this paranoia out in the open so that it can be addressed lol

im not scum though : (

@staypositivefriend can you give a quick reads list

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:43 am

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Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:42 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:40 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:34 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:21 am Michelle, it's hard to remember your past games I've seen, but I don't think you ever come across as towny

I will give you a hint about how i come across, in my second mentor/mentee game, the town mentors could bet i am wolf, and i was villager.
And that was before Monstrman adviced me to play bolder as villager.
I think we never played together, or at least i don't remember.
I don't pay attention at my play to be townish, i rather need to receive answers from the thread than have an universally town read who is blurring my view over the game.

We've come across one another a couple times, you may have been in the last mafia game I played

What game was that?

Well I am IP banned from MU, I was about to look the game up but lol

probably the Music mash, but that was like in Cretacic

music mash, lmao what a day that was in my life

I will look at it later because i still remember it, as my first mash and a memorable game.
It was a game with people who are not playing at MU anymore, like Wolfy and Evan, and now i see you played it as well. I shared my first neighbourhood with Evan, and he accepted my silly derps as authentic, and he was correct.
Thanks for making me remember it ^^

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:46 am lol Michelle that game was three years ago, does the meta stand up? lmao

No, never, but some things never change

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:43 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:40 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:31 am i kinda dont lime nut's defense of made since made is so obv scum, ngl

why would i side with my top mafia read on their relentless tunnel? like i know i said your push on him could be teammate wifom but atp i think youre kinda spewing him town. if you are town then he looks more scummy from your pov sure but i dont have that perspective and dont think you flip green. and i think michelle is far scummier here and dont really think theyre partnered

I see you already flipped me in your head and you are making associations based on that?
Did i interpret this correct, @ everyone?

Yes I should go to preflip jail bonk

You can go already, because you are wrong.

Bbl

@tutuu can you also give a quick readslist

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:50 am @staypositivefriend can you give a quick reads list

nutella
tutuu
esooa
nanook
koba
jagged
michelle
alison
DOOM
made
ellie
grogu

this list feels extremely wrong in my gut and i intend to figure out why

but this is my gth list

michelle is someone that i really need to re-iso, i think

a big part of the reason i tr'd her is because of the ate she used toward me and because of how different her tone is compared to her tone in the champs finale

but that's probably a bad baseline to base a townread on someone off of

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:54 am michelle is someone that i really need to re-iso, i think

a big part of the reason i tr'd her is because of the ate she used toward me and because of how different her tone is compared to her tone in the champs finale

but that's probably a bad baseline to base a townread on someone off of

tbh I think the way you've been giving reasons to "improve" your read on me or giving reasons to town read me has felt extremely scummy

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:56 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:54 am michelle is someone that i really need to re-iso, i think

a big part of the reason i tr'd her is because of the ate she used toward me and because of how different her tone is compared to her tone in the champs finale

but that's probably a bad baseline to base a townread on someone off of

tbh I think the way you've been giving reasons to "improve" your read on me or giving reasons to town read me has felt extremely scummy

don't you think it's possible that i might just be organically finding more reasons to townread you/think of you as town as the day goes on?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:50 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:43 am

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:42 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:40 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:34 am
I will give you a hint about how i come across, in my second mentor/mentee game, the town mentors could bet i am wolf, and i was villager.
And that was before Monstrman adviced me to play bolder as villager.
I think we never played together, or at least i don't remember.
I don't pay attention at my play to be townish, i rather need to receive answers from the thread than have an universally town read who is blurring my view over the game.

We've come across one another a couple times, you may have been in the last mafia game I played

What game was that?

Well I am IP banned from MU, I was about to look the game up but lol

probably the Music mash, but that was like in Cretacic

music mash, lmao what a day that was in my life

I will look at it later because i still remember it, as my first mash and a memorable game.
It was a game with people who are not playing at MU anymore, like Wolfy and Evan, and now i see you played it as well. I shared my first neighbourhood with Evan, and he accepted my silly derps as authentic, and he was correct.
Thanks for making me remember it ^^

I don't think I will ever forget being banned for telling someone that their bullying was making me suicidal lol

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:53 am @tutuu can you also give a quick readslist

tutuu
Alison
Esooa
DkKoba
nutella

Michelle
NOOK
DOOM

JJJ
spf
Grogu
Made
Ellie

@tutuu - it's inch resting that u have alison as your top townread below yourself, because i've been entertaining a lot of tinfoil on her today. is there anything in particular that makes u feel really good about her being town, or just ~vibes~?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:57 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:56 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:54 am michelle is someone that i really need to re-iso, i think

a big part of the reason i tr'd her is because of the ate she used toward me and because of how different her tone is compared to her tone in the champs finale

but that's probably a bad baseline to base a townread on someone off of

tbh I think the way you've been giving reasons to "improve" your read on me or giving reasons to town read me has felt extremely scummy

don't you think it's possible that i might just be organically finding more reasons to townread you/think of you as town as the day goes on?

When I have someone as town, I don't actively look and comment on reasons to read them more than they already are. They're simply town. I'd expect that to be about where your read is on me if you were trying to fairly read me. If expect you to most easily find me town here because you're the only person who has played with me in north pole oligarchy and I'm literally playing exactly the same as that game I realized. I guess koba was modding that but koba also straight up just can't read me at all ever and hasn't been active yet today. But the fact you seem to be continuing to attempt to read me feels scummy. Maybe you're just not that comfortable reading me but it still feels like that to me

I'm not really sure where your apprehension lies

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:00 am @tutuu - it's inch resting that u have alison as your top townread below yourself, because i've been entertaining a lot of tinfoil on her today. is there anything in particular that makes u feel really good about her being town, or just ~vibes~?

vibes and the fact that she voted for a wolf with me yesterday

also i liked the way she sternly told mac "no, back off, you're being silly, im clearly town"

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:02 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:57 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:56 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:54 am michelle is someone that i really need to re-iso, i think

a big part of the reason i tr'd her is because of the ate she used toward me and because of how different her tone is compared to her tone in the champs finale

but that's probably a bad baseline to base a townread on someone off of

tbh I think the way you've been giving reasons to "improve" your read on me or giving reasons to town read me has felt extremely scummy

don't you think it's possible that i might just be organically finding more reasons to townread you/think of you as town as the day goes on?

When I have someone as town, I don't actively look and comment on reasons to read them more than they already are. They're simply town. I'd expect that to be about where your read is on me if you were trying to fairly read me. If expect you to most easily find me town here because you're the only person who has played with me in north pole oligarchy and I'm literally playing exactly the same as that game I realized. I guess koba was modding that but koba also straight up just can't read me at all ever and hasn't been active yet today. But the fact you seem to be continuing to attempt to read me feels scummy. Maybe you're just not that comfortable reading me but it still feels like that to me

mm well i think that's more of a playstyle difference than anything - i'm always looking for more reasons to townread the people that i already have as town, and to scumread the people that i already have as scum. a good example of this is me pointing out a towntell from nanook a little while ago - i already had nanook as town, but observing another towntell from him made me feel more comfortable about his alignment. i like to re-evaluate everyone constantly because that's what works best w/the style of scumhunting i do

so in your case, i came into today with a townlean on you, and then ~because~ you kept towntelling, i was able to connect the dots between your towntells on d1 and your towntells today and townread you with more confidence than i had coming into the day. for me, my reads get gradually cemented as people keep doing certain tells, as opposed to me riding or dying with one or two specific tells

don't really like that response at all tbh

anyways [VOTE: Made] aubergine

u dont have to like it, but it's consistent w/how i scumhunt in every game, more or less

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:05 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:00 am @tutuu - it's inch resting that u have alison as your top townread below yourself, because i've been entertaining a lot of tinfoil on her today. is there anything in particular that makes u feel really good about her being town, or just ~vibes~?

vibes and the fact that she voted for a wolf with me yesterday

also i liked the way she sternly told mac "no, back off, you're being silly, im clearly town"

kk thanks, i'm less confident than u but i appreciate the perspective

i'm tipsy so i apologize if my posts get like 20% sloppier from this point on

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:09 am u dont have to like it, but it's consistent w/how i scumhunt in every game, more or less

do you think I've done anything scummy this game?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:09 am anyways [VOTE: Made] aubergine

oo that's spicy, did anything in particular make u wanna vote made over ellie?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:11 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:09 am u dont have to like it, but it's consistent w/how i scumhunt in every game, more or less

do you think I've done anything scummy this game?

mm not to my memory, youve played how i would expect esooa!town to play and i dont think anything has pinged me about you

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:57 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:50 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:43 am

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:42 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:40 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am

We've come across one another a couple times, you may have been in the last mafia game I played

What game was that?

Well I am IP banned from MU, I was about to look the game up but lol

probably the Music mash, but that was like in Cretacic

music mash, lmao what a day that was in my life

I will look at it later because i still remember it, as my first mash and a memorable game.
It was a game with people who are not playing at MU anymore, like Wolfy and Evan, and now i see you played it as well. I shared my first neighbourhood with Evan, and he accepted my silly derps as authentic, and he was correct.
Thanks for making me remember it ^^

I don't think I will ever forget being banned for telling someone that their bullying was making me suicidal lol

that was a very sad thing

spf: i have just drank 1 glass of wine im just sliiightly tipsy hehe nothing to worry about guys hehe

also spf:

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:11 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:09 am anyways [VOTE: Made] aubergine

oo that's spicy, did anything in particular make u wanna vote made over ellie?

Ellies actions towards Made are both towny and non-partnered. Every post Made had posted today has been awful. I can extremely easily see him TMI'ing Eliie town here and using my push on her to set me up today. His push is god awful. It uses poor justifications that hinge on Mac's read on me which was incorrect enough Mac walked it back. Made himself doesn't even have any reason to believe it. Made also uses the night kill to try and push me when every town in this game knows Mac died for being town!Mac. Mades posts never come from a town. Ellies possibly do

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:12 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:11 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:09 am u dont have to like it, but it's consistent w/how i scumhunt in every game, more or less

do you think I've done anything scummy this game?

mm not to my memory, youve played how i would expect esooa!town to play and i dont think anything has pinged me about you

Why is tutuu above me then? Do you have a reason for it? I don't really think I'd agree with your list just being quickly put together for the justification here, as this has been a pretty consistent position of yours iirc. Can you also explain what you meant by "town lean" earlier in the day? Can you explain why you thought LC was scummy day 1?

thinking about Ellie's posts, I have a problem with them. Ellie says she acted how she did in previous games to be flirty. If her behavior in previous games was an act, why was there a noticable difference between alignments? It clearly wasn't just an act, her alignment had an affect on it

non-important but I wonder how many people are going to consider me churning out paragraphs of towny thought and solving is somehow just obviously in my scum range, and why that number is going to be so few

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:14 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:11 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:09 am anyways [VOTE: Made] aubergine

oo that's spicy, did anything in particular make u wanna vote made over ellie?

Ellies actions towards Made are both towny and non-partnered. Every post Made had posted today has been awful. I can extremely easily see him TMI'ing Eliie town here and using my push on her to set me up today. His push is god awful. It uses poor justifications that hinge on Mac's read on me which was incorrect enough Mac walked it back. Made himself doesn't even have any reason to believe it. Made also uses the night kill to try and push me when every town in this game knows Mac died for being town!Mac. Mades posts never come from a town. Ellies possibly do

The NK justification stuff applies as much if not more so to Michelle imo

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:13 am spf: i have just drank 1 glass of wine im just sliiightly tipsy hehe nothing to worry about guys hehe

also spf:

never felt more related to in my life