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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:22 am
by MartinGG99
I got to re-reviewing Falcon and I suspect my earlier tangible reasons for town-reading him were partially based on Sabie interactions and in the light of possible TMI I now am not as certain about that being a good look.

Also was everyone mech early D3? I stopped actively reading the thread around that point. Seems like Falcon was mentioning it a lot in relative comparison to the size of his ISO.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:22 am
by MartinGG99
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:22 am Also was everyone talking about mech early D3?
ebwop

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:28 am
by MartinGG99
[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Open to possibly voting Flacon but I think Wilgy is the right move for today.

Might pop-in later to do more ISO reviews & catching up, but as it stands (in no particular order):

Town
Sig
LP
Dolby
Guilo
Marmot

Probably town?
TSP
Mac
LC

idk
NAA
Wilgy
Falcon

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:25 am
by Lime Coke
Sorry I'm not as active this game like I usually am, but this game feels like it can auto-pilot its way to a win and it's nice not having to try and town wins. Plus I got a powerful role that's going to be useful when we (hopefully) yeet another mafia member today.

If we do yeet another mafia member both watchers be on a RBer to make this easier. Marmot if you want to announce it before we move onto the night phase that's probably the optimal way to do it.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:28 am
by Lime Coke
Actually, no, I'm an idiot. Both medics be on a RBer and if they're both outed then watchers be on them.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:33 am
by Lime Coke
:disappoint:
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:28 am Actually, no, I'm an idiot. Both medics be on a RBer and if they're both outed then watchers be on them.
No, actually disregard this, someone else might want to decide on what to do mech wise this is kinda screwy.

Ping me after y'all decide what is going to happen, if you have names for me to avoid roleblocking that would be huge.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:35 am
by Lime Coke
That emoji shouldn't be there.

Also last thing before I go back off, if I don't end up thoroughly reading through Day 3 and end up with an opinion on the yeet then I'll end up sheeping Dolby since I kinda think he's more confirmed town than Marmot.

Not saying Marmot isn't town but I just have reasoning to think that Dolby has more of a chance at being town by a slight margin.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:46 am
by Marmot
Dolby wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:15 am
Dolby wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:47 am I think I'm at

Good mech
Lime Coke
TSP
Marmot

I like
LinearPoint
Guillo
Mac
NAA

Rest
Sig
Martin
Falcon
Wilgy
I'll re-ev my townleans on this day for posterity but I do think they're just good

Lime, idk I just wrote him off as town yday

Hot take of mine is that Marmot being on the Gav wagon spews him town because Gav having votes from three mafia (Marmot, Sabie, Nanook) would be super lol and I don't beleive that's the world

I will admit to being more concerned about TSP now

LP has been the obvious town of the game

Guillo had a really towny D1

Mac and NAA it's just these slots are probably town for varying reasons

Think it's most essential for me to reread D1 and start of day 3

Fwiw, my vote was on nanook in spirit even if it wasn't physically on him.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:48 am
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:40 am like two docs can keep marmot alive indefinitely and that's just too good i think

But then people will wonder why I'm still alive

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:49 am
by Lime Coke
I'm guessing RBers still alive with 1 mafia member left alive is a better thing? I don't know how else to look at it.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:50 am
by Marmot
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:25 am Sorry I'm not as active this game like I usually am, but this game feels like it can auto-pilot its way to a win and it's nice not having to try and town wins. Plus I got a powerful role that's going to be useful when we (hopefully) yeet another mafia member today.

If we do yeet another mafia member both watchers be on a RBer to make this easier. Marmot if you want to announce it before we move onto the night phase that's probably the optimal way to do it.
Jack is dead so we only have one watcher i think

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:52 am
by Lime Coke
I'm 100% talking a hypothetical world where we yeet another mafia member today. I'm also keeping positive that we'll yeet another mafia member as well because why the hell not?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:53 am
by Lime Coke
Marmot wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:50 am
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:25 am Sorry I'm not as active this game like I usually am, but this game feels like it can auto-pilot its way to a win and it's nice not having to try and town wins. Plus I got a powerful role that's going to be useful when we (hopefully) yeet another mafia member today.

If we do yeet another mafia member both watchers be on a RBer to make this easier. Marmot if you want to announce it before we move onto the night phase that's probably the optimal way to do it.
Jack is dead so we only have one watcher i think
Gotcha. Low key didn't fully check his role I just saw he died and flipped town.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:54 am
by Marmot
Wim-reads where the wolves are the disheartened players rn points to falcon and Wilgy. Just like everything else

Sig has actually posted today quite a bit.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:59 am
by Lime Coke
Has Wilgy actually spoken or has he been doing the weird muffled stuff still?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:00 am
by Lime Coke
He's still doing the muffled talking. Yeah I don't mind killing that.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:37 am
by NotAnAxehole
I for one quite enjoy @DrWilgy 's roleplay.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:36 pm
by Marmot
Me too, and there's a decent chance it also hits scum. :biggrin:

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:51 pm
by DrWilgy
Mphahahahahaha!!! Mphaaaa

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:53 pm
by DrWilgy
[VOTE: MhMfMh] aubergine

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:04 pm
by NotAnAxehole
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:53 pm [VOTE: MhMfMh] aubergine
This is a good vote.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:05 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Marmot wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:36 pm Me too, and there's a decent chance it also hits scum. :biggrin:
It's not impossible, but I think he's town.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:11 pm
by LinearPoint
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:33 am :disappoint:
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:28 am Actually, no, I'm an idiot. Both medics be on a RBer and if they're both outed then watchers be on them.
No, actually disregard this, someone else might want to decide on what to do mech wise this is kinda screwy.

Ping me after y'all decide what is going to happen, if you have names for me to avoid roleblocking that would be huge.
Man this broke my brain.
I was looking at the post you quoted like "Man I must be super tired when I wrote that because I don't remember writing that."
It then took me way too long to realize that it wasn't something I typed and was a quote from you.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:04 pm
by Guillotine
Marmot wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:54 am Wim-reads where the wolves are the disheartened players rn points to falcon and Wilgy. Just like everything else

Sig has actually posted today quite a bit.
He only posts when someone sus him meaning he is reading the thread without contributing until he feels he starts getting heat. Sig is mafia.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:08 pm
by Guillotine
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:37 am I for one quite enjoy @DrWilgy 's roleplay.
Wilgy reminds me of you in that Mafia Universe game where you roleplayed and you flip mafia.

TSP should have killed Wilgy not Gavial.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:08 pm
by Marmot
Guillotine wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:04 pm
Marmot wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:54 am Wim-reads where the wolves are the disheartened players rn points to falcon and Wilgy. Just like everything else

Sig has actually posted today quite a bit.
He only posts when someone sus him meaning he is reading the thread without contributing until he feels he starts getting heat. Sig is mafia.

I reread his posts so far on Day 4, 1 of his 10 post are a response to suspicion.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:10 pm
by Dolby
If we vote out a maf today, I think medics should rb instead of healing

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:10 pm
by Marmot
Last time Wilgy roleplayed as town (Philo Mafia), he stopped his roleplaying on Day 2 to post an incredible gamesolve.

I could be convinced that he's town, but I honestly don't think anyone could convince me but him at this point.


That said, I'd rather kill falcon first because in case either of those two are misses, falcon will likely have more info to glean from a miss.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:11 pm
by Guillotine
[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

But yah this game is the right move, if he is town mafia will not kill him to keep us paranoid about him, we have to do it.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:11 pm
by Dolby
Wilgy is voting tsp

I’m like 80% sure he’s only voted for town

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:12 pm
by Dolby
If it helps marmot, I think Falcon/sig is not the team

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:13 pm
by Guillotine
Dolby wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:12 pm If it helps marmot, I think Falcon/sig is not the team
I actually think that is the team if wilgy is not scum

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:13 pm
by Marmot
Dolby wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:11 pm Wilgy is voting tsp

I’m like 80% sure he’s only voted for town

And TSP is a sniper, a role that is semi-useless if voted.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:19 pm
by Guillotine
If @DrWilgy is town, now is the time to break the gambit and contribute, we are at great position right now we two wolves out, playing that way will only get you chopped and if you are town that is the equivalent of intentionally playing bad for your own amusement, not playing to fulfill our wincon.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:20 pm
by Marmot
Friendly reminder that double-targeting is allowed and medics and protect the same target over and over again

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:20 pm
by Marmot
EWBOP: medics can protect the same target

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:22 pm
by Guillotine
Guillotine wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:19 pm If @DrWilgy is town, now is the time to break the gambit and contribute, we are at great position right now we two wolves out, playing that way will only get you chopped and if you are town that is the equivalent of intentionally playing bad for your own amusement, not playing to fulfill our wincon.
**with two wolves out**

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:39 pm
by Guillotine
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:42 pm NAA seems like a worm on a hook...lots of wriggling about
This makes Falcon and NAA not a team.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:53 pm
by Guillotine
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:47 am
MacDougall wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:36 am @falcon45ca @Dolby reads on each other plz
Outside of what I've mentioned re: their switch to Sean's wagon, I don't have a strong read on Dolby. I shall ISO them
Did Falcon got back to this? I’ll keep reading but posting in case i forget.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:19 pm
by Guillotine
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:55 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:53 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:51 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:48 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:48 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:10 pm I need to continue voting Guillo unfortunately.
Do you usually vote people you don't think are Maf?
In a game where votes throw off vig shots, yes.
NotAnAxehole wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:49 pm Context matters
Then it really wouldn't be unfortunate that you voted him, would it?
What
You said it was unfortunate you had to vote Guillo...but in so doing, you thought you were saving him from a Vig shot?


Which would mean it is not unfortunate to vote for him?
This actually a good catch.

NotAnAxehole later replied he acted under the assumption that i was town vigilante and he was sure i’d 100% target him if i was town vigilante.

But i remember NAA replying to Gavial something along the lines of “who believes a Guillo’s vig claim”.

So this is a big contradiction from NAA and his action against could qualify as open wolfing.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:20 pm
by Guillotine
The more i read Falcon’s ISO the less i believe he could be scum to be honest.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:22 pm
by Guillotine
@TonyStarkPrime why did you kill Gavial yesterday and why didnt you kill NAA on night 1 after that fucked CFD that you were also part of on day 1?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:31 pm
by Guillotine
Question of the day.

Did all Mafia bussed Nanook yesterday or did they try to save Nanook by trying to get Falcon over instead of Nanook?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:33 pm
by Guillotine
Another question. What if Gavial has been mostly wrong but he was right about one thing and that think scared wolves the most and killed him?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:38 pm
by Guillotine
Nah i cant start sheeping Gavial, that’s just crazy.

Im ISOing Martin next

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:04 pm
by Marmot
Guillotine wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:31 pm Question of the day.

Did all Mafia bussed Nanook yesterday or did they try to save Nanook by trying to get Falcon over instead of Nanook?
Without looking, I'd gander that mafia would bus him, given his self-prez wasn't that strong

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:06 pm
by Marmot
Guillotine wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:33 pm Another question. What if Gavial has been mostly wrong but he was right about one thing and that think scared wolves the most and killed him?
Fwiw, TSP would have targeted gav on Night 2 to kill him Night 3, so that would have to have been planned in advance

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:45 pm
by Guillotine
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:35 pm I personally don't feel like investigating the seanzie votes because I'm largely sure that what happened was stupid

there was so little discussion around yeeting seanzie (compared to most voting options at least) that I doubt I would be able to tell the difference from mafia and town votes lol
This screams to me like "Oh no! Don't look at Seanzie's wagon, there are a few of my mafia partners of mine here".

I remember this is the post that raised a red flag for me. Disregarding the CFD as stupid rather than scummy is scummy and is probably TMIng some people on Seanzie's wagon town, but who? NAA? TSP? Both? Or could it be that he is calling out his partners stupid for ending up on Seanzie's wagon, outing themselves?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:51 pm
by Guillotine
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:12 pm I also want Gavial, Guillo and Martin to die.
I'm less interested than any single person being in that list than I am interested in how you arrived to putting all 3 of Guilo/Gavial/Me together

Off the top of my head that makes for a bit of a unusual group considering one of them I townread, the other I haven't really read, and I myself is scum-read by Guilo and mild town-read by Gavial.
Did you answer this MacDougall?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:52 pm
by Guillotine
Marmot wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:06 pm
Guillotine wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:33 pm Another question. What if Gavial has been mostly wrong but he was right about one thing and that think scared wolves the most and killed him?
Fwiw, TSP would have targeted gav on Night 2 to kill him Night 3, so that would have to have been planned in advance
So the kill is a delayed action then?

ok