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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:44 am
by timmer
Svs, what do you think of dh's comment about boom having a polyjuice portion? is that possible?
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:22 pm
by Long Con
Well, of course it's possible... the game holds only to the limits of Epig's imagination.
I like the Seemer one just because I coined the term.

The Batman one also has awesomeness factor. Is it a Community reference? I have only seen a couple of episodes, isn't Abed one of the guys?
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:23 pm
by Long Con
timmer wrote:Svs, what do you think of dh's comment about boom having a polyjuice portion? is that possible?
...and on further thought, if Boomslang was deceiving us about his role via polyjuice or some other method, then the Seemer one would have to be the REAL Face of Boe.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:29 pm
by S~V~S
I am unaware of any polyjuice; I have no idea what Goldy had st his disposal, though
I am having problems with this reveal in light of Booms vote for me.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:33 pm
by Tangrowth
Just popping in for a second, but honestly, I don't think a Seemer is likely here. But what do I know?
Having known Boomslang for a long time, he consistently sounded genuine to me all game, so if he is a bad Seemer, he's a damn good liar.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:34 pm
by Tangrowth
And I've only seen an episode or two of Community, but yeah, I think Abed is a main character from that show.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:25 pm
by juliets
I don't have a clue which of these would correspond to our civs.
Epi, what is the cutoff time for the poll? It's not on there.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:26 pm
by Epignosis
juliets wrote:Epi, what is the cutoff time for the poll? It's not on there.
Night 10 ends at 9:02pm EST.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:30 pm
by juliets
thank you epi!
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:27 pm
by zeek
Timmer, which option do you think is best?
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:45 pm
by timmer
I think if SVS doesn't know about polyjuice potion, then I do not believe DH AND if dead baddies still have btsc with their living partners, then it is very possible that the seemer choice in the poll was a baddie trying to match their words to the plan they knew dh was going to try.
I dont know which to choose yet, but I think the seemer one is likely a baddie.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:55 pm
by DharmaHelper
timmer wrote:I think if SVS doesn't know about polyjuice potion, then I do not believe DH AND if dead baddies still have btsc with their living partners, then it is very possible that the seemer choice in the poll was a baddie trying to match their words to the plan they knew dh was going to try.
I dont know which to choose yet, but I think the seemer one is likely a baddie.
Except its 100% impossible for me to be bad?
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:19 pm
by juliets
DharmaHelper wrote:I really did think he was bad, and obviously I still do. I did not play anybody. My record this game clearly indicates my civvieness.
DH, is it your belief then that Boomslang was a seemer and since they knew the FoB was dead he adopted that character or are you saying something else?
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:24 pm
by zeek
DharmaHelper wrote:Except its 100% impossible for me to be bad?
That is 100% not true. It's totally possible for anyone but MP and S~V~S to be lying about their role.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:38 pm
by Tangrowth
zeek wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:Except its 100% impossible for me to be bad?
That is 100% not true. It's totally possible for anyone but MP and S~V~S to be lying about their role.
Agreed.
I am not voting the Seemer option for reasons timmer pointed out.
Suppose I'll just vote the Batman option.

Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:53 pm
by zeek
I'm also very wary of Lizzy and Lorab popping back up.
I don't know what to believe, frankly. I'm voting DH or Mongoose tomorrow.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:55 pm
by S~V~S
You guys were all hot and heavy to lynch Mongoose yesterday, now she is a secondary option?
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:59 pm
by zeek
No, it's one or the other. I still think Mongoose is bad but after that shit yesteray DH needs a serious look.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:11 pm
by timmer
DharmaHelper wrote:timmer wrote:I think if SVS doesn't know about polyjuice potion, then I do not believe DH AND if dead baddies still have btsc with their living partners, then it is very possible that the seemer choice in the poll was a baddie trying to match their words to the plan they knew dh was going to try.
I dont know which to choose yet, but I think the seemer one is likely a baddie.
Except its 100% impossible for me to be bad?
Every lynch in this game has had baddies voting for teammates. The only certainty is that there is no certainty. I will be voting Mongoose tomorrow, sticking to my plan, but I don't put ANY credence in this seemer/dh is face of boe b.s.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:14 pm
by timmer
Svs, if you don't know anything about polyjuice potions, I'd suggest changing your vote off of the seemer choice. This whole thing is a gambit. Dh is playing is, and that's his teammate up there on the poll, I think.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:15 pm
by timmer
But I don't know which option to pick, tbh. I went with who is dead because it doesn't sound as carefully planned as some of the others.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:15 pm
by zeek
timmer wrote:Every lynch in this game has had baddies voting for teammates. The only certainty is that there is no certainty. I will be voting Mongoose tomorrow, sticking to my plan, but I don't put ANY credence in this seemer/dh is face of boe b.s.
This sounds good to me. I'm not regretting my vote again.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:26 pm
by DharmaHelper
zeek wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:Except its 100% impossible for me to be bad?
That is 100% not true. It's totally possible for anyone but MP and S~V~S to be lying about their role.
Thats fucking ridiculous.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:31 pm
by DharmaHelper
timmer wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:timmer wrote:I think if SVS doesn't know about polyjuice potion, then I do not believe DH AND if dead baddies still have btsc with their living partners, then it is very possible that the seemer choice in the poll was a baddie trying to match their words to the plan they knew dh was going to try.
I dont know which to choose yet, but I think the seemer one is likely a baddie.
Except its 100% impossible for me to be bad?
Every lynch in this game has had baddies voting for teammates. The only certainty is that there is no certainty. I will be voting Mongoose tomorrow, sticking to my plan, but I don't put ANY credence in this seemer/dh is face of boe b.s.
Really? Because I've voted for two Sorcerers. TWO.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:14 pm
by Elohcin
taking everything into consideration that's been said since the last host post.....I am voting for who is dead.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:59 pm
by juliets
I'm gonna join timmer and Elo on who is dead.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:05 pm
by timmer
DharmaHelper wrote:
Really? Because I've voted for two Sorcerers. TWO.
You're saying that despite the lynch result we saw, that Boomslang was a sorcerer? Well Dom (a sorcerer) voted for Boomslang TWICE. So big whoop, DH. Boom has been crumbing Face of Boe ALL GAME. I see absolutely no reason to believe you, and no CERTAINLY no reason you can call yourself 100% proven to not be a baddie. Try harder.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:07 pm
by DharmaHelper
timmer wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:
Really? Because I've voted for two Sorcerers. TWO.
You're saying that despite the lynch result we saw, that Boomslang was a sorcerer? Well Dom (a sorcerer) voted for Boomslang TWICE. So big whoop, DH. Boom has been crumbing Face of Boe ALL GAME. I see absolutely no reason to believe you, and no CERTAINLY no reason you can call yourself 100% proven to not be a baddie. Try harder.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:08 pm
by bea
Abed.is.Batman.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:11 pm
by DharmaHelper
timmer wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:
Really? Because I've voted for two Sorcerers. TWO.
You're saying that despite the lynch result we saw, that Boomslang was a sorcerer? Well Dom (a sorcerer) voted for Boomslang TWICE. So big whoop, DH. Boom has been crumbing Face of Boe ALL GAME. I see absolutely no reason to believe you, and no CERTAINLY no reason you can call yourself 100% proven to not be a baddie. Try harder.
I've already explained *TWICE* how Dom's votes for Boomslang were meaningless throwaway votes. At no point was Boomslang in any danger as a result of Doms vote. Whereas I actively contributed to the lynch of TWO SORCERERS WITH MY VOTE
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:14 pm
by S~V~S
timmer wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:
Really? Because I've voted for two Sorcerers. TWO.
You're saying that despite the lynch result we saw, that Boomslang was a sorcerer? Well Dom (a sorcerer) voted for Boomslang TWICE. So big whoop, DH. Boom has been crumbing Face of Boe ALL GAME. I see absolutely no reason to believe you, and no CERTAINLY no reason you can call yourself 100% proven to not be a baddie. Try harder.
I did not think so at all of Boom. He said and did many things that totally contradicted being a lie detector the entire game. The person I believe(d~ not 100% sure yet what I think anymore tbh) to be Boe, on the other hand, did not.
My thoughts on Day One DH was that he was trying to get a rise out of the people he has the most issues with reading so they might give something away. If DH is bad, he can torment me in the D & D irc, but I am having a hard time believing Boom was Boe.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:18 pm
by Tangrowth
S~V~S, I believe you misunderstood me, if you were referring to me.
I'd MUCH rather lynch Mongoose tomorrow. But I do firmly believe DH to be her teammate at this point, given the stunt he pulled yesterday, and his on and off very suspicious behavior all game.
I will change my vote to "who is dead". The logic timmer said works for me, and I'd rather not a baddie get it -- and as awesome as the Batman declaration is, it tells me nothing. In addition, they are tied at 3 until I change my vote, and I DO NOT want the seemer option winning.
timmer wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:
Really? Because I've voted for two Sorcerers. TWO.
You're saying that despite the lynch result we saw, that Boomslang was a sorcerer? Well Dom (a sorcerer) voted for Boomslang TWICE. So big whoop, DH. Boom has been crumbing Face of Boe ALL GAME. I see absolutely no reason to believe you, and no CERTAINLY no reason you can call yourself 100% proven to not be a baddie. Try harder.
This.
Boomslang has been claiming FoB for quite some time, and he consistently read genuine to me.
I think anyone who is actually entertaining that DH isn't bad at this point is giving into unnecessary paranoia.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:19 pm
by DharmaHelper
Fuck me for not role outting or info dumping from jump street :P
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:21 pm
by Tangrowth
DharmaHelper wrote:Fuck me for not role outting or info dumping from jump street :P
I'm not saying I agree with the actions taken by some this game, but I feel I shouldn't necessarily judge too harshly, considering I technically outed myself.

Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:24 pm
by S~V~S
Actually MP, I was talking to someone else. But my problem is that I am feeling very paranoid right now. The way things went down the other day did not help me once I stopped being upset and actually thought about it.
I do not think Boom was a lie detector. I actually am feeling like the only person I do trust anymore is DH. At this point I don't believe a word anyone says

Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:27 pm
by timmer
DharmaHelper wrote:
I've already explained *TWICE* how Dom's votes for Boomslang were meaningless throwaway votes. At no point was Boomslang in any danger as a result of Doms vote. Whereas I actively contributed to the lynch of TWO SORCERERS WITH MY VOTE
Sorry, DH. Again, there are lynches all OVER this game where baddies voted for their teammates at crazy moments. I've never actually seen anything like it.
You are suggesting that the sorcerers had a way to make one of them be a seemer, and that Boomslang knew this back on Day 2 or 3 when he started suggesting that people were civs here and there, and that he has coasted quietly along, dropping little hints about being Face of Boe, all the while not even knowing if the real one was alive or dead (since you are saying it is you?)? And that somehow you saw through this, lynched Boomslang, who is listed as Face of Boe, but fuck it all, we should just believe you.
No.
Much more likely? Boomslang was Face of Boe, you got him lynched, you are bad.
Either way, I'm going with Mongoose tomorrow, but why the FUCK should I believe you? I know of no reason to believe that Voldemort or anyone else had a magic potion as part of their secrets. This is Parchment-level bullshit, and you are using the game's issues with info-dropping to pseudo-FAKE-info-drop.
again... no.
Try to convince the others, I know where the truth lays, and it isn't with you.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:30 pm
by timmer
And tell me, DH. How does a DEAD PLAYER know there is a Seemer? I don't even see how YOU would know, but how does a DEAD player know?
How convenient is it that the dead baddies have btsc with the living, and here you are pitching a seemer just as a dead player ALSO pitches the idea of a seemer to lend you credence.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:32 pm
by DharmaHelper
OK Timmer.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:32 pm
by Tangrowth
S~V~S wrote:Actually MP, I was talking to someone else. But my problem is that I am feeling very paranoid right now. The way things went down the other day did not help me once I stopped being upset and actually thought about it.
I do not think Boom was a lie detector. I actually am feeling like the only person I do trust anymore is DH. At this point I don't believe a word anyone says

Stop listening to your paranoia then and rationally analyze the turn of events. I don't understand how any civilian could trust DH after D10.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:33 pm
by Tangrowth
That said, I didn't mean to come across as demanding, but for god's sake I just don't get your viewpoint at all, S~V~S. You do what you want, but frankly I'm all for a Mongoose lynch tomorrow.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:33 pm
by Tangrowth
timmer wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:
I've already explained *TWICE* how Dom's votes for Boomslang were meaningless throwaway votes. At no point was Boomslang in any danger as a result of Doms vote. Whereas I actively contributed to the lynch of TWO SORCERERS WITH MY VOTE
Sorry, DH. Again, there are lynches all OVER this game where baddies voted for their teammates at crazy moments. I've never actually seen anything like it.
You are suggesting that the sorcerers had a way to make one of them be a seemer, and that Boomslang knew this back on Day 2 or 3 when he started suggesting that people were civs here and there, and that he has coasted quietly along, dropping little hints about being Face of Boe, all the while not even knowing if the real one was alive or dead (since you are saying it is you?)? And that somehow you saw through this, lynched Boomslang, who is listed as Face of Boe, but fuck it all, we should just believe you.
No.
Much more likely? Boomslang was Face of Boe, you got him lynched, you are bad.
Either way, I'm going with Mongoose tomorrow, but why the FUCK should I believe you? I know of no reason to believe that Voldemort or anyone else had a magic potion as part of their secrets.
This is Parchment-level bullshit, and you are using the game's issues with info-dropping to pseudo-FAKE-info-drop.
again... no.
Try to convince the others, I know where the truth lays, and it isn't with you.
As the creator of said parchment, you hit the nail right on the head.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:37 pm
by S~V~S
I don't think anyone mentioned the Seemer until it got noticed on the poll. I thought I must have been on drugs until i saw that, I could not understand how Boom could have been Boe. Plus people roll their eyes at me whenever i say Seemer, and i had enough of that this game.
Like I said, DH can lord it over me for the rest of eternity if he is bad and played me this badly. But I am not seeing how Boom was Boe like at all. It isn't like one person not towing the party line is going to matter anyhow
I am just going to shut up from now on and vote.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:47 pm
by juliets
S~V~S I think your voice is important because you are a civ voicing a position that is different from some other civs. There could be other people out there that believe the same way you do. Most importantly though, it is best if we have differing opinions aired out in the thread so we can all make the best decision that we can. So please don't pull out of the discussion now.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:56 pm
by S~V~S
I can mentally visualize several people rolling their eyes whenever I post, JC. This makes me feel simultaneously stupid AND stubborn, not a good combo. So better I should just shut up than allow pride/stubborness to make me say something rude or passive aggressive to someone I like.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:58 pm
by juliets

ok, i get it.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:16 pm
by Mongoose
S~V~S wrote:I can mentally visualize several people rolling their eyes whenever I post, JC. This makes me feel simultaneously stupid AND stubborn, not a good combo. So better I should just shut up than allow pride/stubborness to make me say something rude or passive aggressive to someone I like.
I know I have currently very limited credibility,
but I hope you come back soon k?
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:21 pm
by Long Con
S~V~S wrote:I can mentally visualize several people rolling their eyes whenever I post...
That never happens to my eyes when I read your posts.

Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:22 pm
by Spacedaisy
I'm voting who is dead and I am securely looking at mongoose or DH now for my next vote. I think it is obvious now why DH was so illogically arguing with me regarding my trust of Boom. He is finding himself cornered it seems to me.
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:25 pm
by Long Con
I also voted who is dead because I think the message there is quite clear.
What happens if we lynch Gleeok? Another resurrection?
Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 10]
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:55 pm
by timmer
Long Con wrote:S~V~S wrote:I can mentally visualize several people rolling their eyes whenever I post...
That never happens to my eyes when I read your posts.

Mine neither! I really hope you don't mean me!
