The Syndicate

Silver Lantern wrote:

Soneji wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Quin wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:Hi everyone. Apologies for dumb questions ahead of time, I will be asking them all game and for games to come too.

DO NOT GIVE ME THE MAP, I REPEAT, DO NOT GIVE ME THE MAP.

Alright, now that I got the reverse psychology argument out of the way, should we try to coordinate the poll votes, or would that be against the spirit of the game? And would there be a benefit in doing so? I am guessing not much aside from pissing off the mod.

You guys call the mod the host here from what I gather, right?

What is BTSC?

What is Civ or Civilian? Is that like a regular townie?

I asked all the dumb questions too, not to worry.

But I did get a ping from this. Most of this was already discussed, and what isn't just doesn't feel particularly helpful.

If you're gonna toss around accusations at least have the common courtesy to quote where this was "already discussed" so that I can see what you're referring to and shoot down your fake arguments accordingly...

A rather strong reaction to what was a rather tame observation. Wants evidence supporting the accusation but is already dismissing it as a fake argument, therefore backhandedly saying that Quin is scum.

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Don't understand how Quin is reading into Sorsha's posts so strongly. Her responses to JJJ pretty plainly state that she would like for her vote to have given the map to a civ and that she doesn't have reason to suspect at the moment that the other girls are mafia.] aubergine

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I'm a highly defensive player at times. I would say more often than not. I assure you it has zero to do with my alignment. I'm sure those who have played with me can vouche for that, fwiw. I also don't let people get away with BS accusations on me. I would call anyone out who has the audacity to make such a patently fictitious claim about me.] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Long Con wrote:I do, however, think the possible Dyslexicon-slip to be much more juicy. The INH vote is just a pressure-vote... if Slex can't explain this 5-knowledge, then the vote cast would be quite a bit more serious.

My eyeball is tweaking at this post. That highlighted bit looks inauthentic to me, in that Long Con is sort of sacrificing the proposed value of his vote (the pressure is inherently decreased when the vote is declared to be about pressure) just so he can heap on with the Dyslexicon slip. Whether Dizzy is scum or not, Long Con's support with this language he employed looks like a player who feels the need to step in rather than a player who has a personal investment in developing his understanding.

insertnamehere wrote:

Golden wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:MM, Golden, and 3J all want us to go to a different destination.

Only one of them will benefit the civilians (assuming whoever has the map is a civilian).

That's a problem.

I don't see any reason to presume that particular options will benefit a particular faction at this stage.

I don't see any reason to presume that the direction poll is completely irrelevant and cannot benefit either the civilians or the baddies.

Strawhenge wrote:Again, Dyslexicon, I'd love a reason why you responded, 'No.' to some of my posts.

Silver Lantern wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:I'm a highly defensive player at times. I would say more often than not. I assure you it has zero to do with my alignment. I'm sure those who have played with me can vouche for that, fwiw. I also don't let people get away with BS accusations on me. I would call anyone out who has the audacity to make such a patently fictitious claim about me.

My sources tell me you're a fiery HIVE and have teamed up with Strawhenge to take us all down.

What do you have to say to that?

Alright now I'm just being baited...

Golden wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I'm not calling it a slip-up, but it is as Golden said, a series of unfortunate events. I'm just open to the possibility of it being a fictional one.

I think you have a tendency to suspect me, but here is a golden rule you can trust me to live by.

Even when bad, I lie very very rarely. I don't create fictional stories. I heavily discourage teammates from doing it as well. Why? Because all it can do is lead to you getting caught in the lie. It's just a really poor strategy. There's a reason my baddie game is relatively successful, and it's because I leave as few threads to tug on as I possibly can.

Lies are reserved for things that can create a significant game advantage (and even then, you need to feel like its a safe lie), or for fake reads.

Having said that, I do see the advantage in lying to protect others from nks, as a civilian.

insertnamehere wrote:MM, Golden, and 3J all want us to go to a different destination.

Only one of them will benefit the civilians (assuming whoever has the map is a civilian).

That's a problem.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've never fooled anyone. I've never been bad.

Quin wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/

I don't read this anywhere.

Vote Dyslexicon

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:Also, I'm not a dumb player. I don't obv-slip like that if scum. It would be me pretending to be town that fake slipped to emulate my town game.

Would expect more from Golden. "A great catch", really? Glaringly ovbious and classic I'd say.

Anyways, people are biting. Rawr.

When does day end?

Strawhenge wrote:I don't know if Syndicate indicates people as 'online' for a while after they log off, like on RYM, but Dyslexicon was 'browsing this forum' through to the start of pg.7, plus some minutes. FWIW.

Strawhenge wrote:

Quin wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/

I don't read this anywhere.

Vote Dyslexicon

Where the hell is the sirengif button. Someone add a sirengif button.

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:Also, I'm not a dumb player. I don't obv-slip like that if scum. It would be me pretending to be town that fake slipped to emulate my town game.

Would expect more from Golden. "A great catch", really? Glaringly ovbious and classic I'd say.

Anyways, people are biting. Rawr.

When does day end?

Day ends on the evening (eastern US time) of the 14th.

Under the circumstances it'd be ideal if you'd explain "five scum" and also name the three scum reads you referred to before.

Silver Lantern wrote:Is Dfaraday usually a low poster?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Alright, I'll hold off for now while I catch up.

Unvote

Vote Strawhenge

Dyslexicon wrote:We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/

Nachomamma8 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I would prefer not to disclose all of the details of the map, because the mafia team might be able to find ways to turn it to their advantage. I will say though that Golden's guesses are at least reasonably close all things considered. Once I have had a few opportunities to utilize it myself and get acquainted with the effects it creates, I might be more inclined to talk about it. We'll see.

JJJ faking having the map is a decent towntell for me on top of fairly good engagement/content so far.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Guys I think I'm feeling severe burnout. The act of compiling posts and dividing quotes and answering questions is feeling like a chore. I might need the occasional pick-me up motivation. Keep me engaged, I'm fading fast!

Dyslexicon wrote:Five scum lolslip. I see people are really jumping on it, "great catch" . I'm surprised so many seems to take it seriously, but then I'm used to players being used to play with me. Hopefully some reactions stands out. I'm not dumb enough to slip for real in that way. It's a rather classic way of fake slipping. Did the same thing in one of my recent town games on my home site, same number even (HOW CONVENIENT).

Dyslexicon wrote:I didn't have three scum reads. I have none. Hopefully this changes with me reading the game. \o/

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Let's see some of that beautiful content I know you're packing.

Let it rain! Let it ooze from your pores! Let it smother the unfortunate souls of countless players who signed up for this simple game of mafia!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Also, are you a member of the mafia HIVE?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:Five scum lolslip. I see people are really jumping on it, "great catch" . I'm surprised so many seems to take it seriously, but then I'm used to players being used to play with me. Hopefully some reactions stands out. I'm not dumb enough to slip for real in that way. It's a rather classic way of fake slipping. Did the same thing in one of my recent town games on my home site, same number even (HOW CONVENIENT).

I would absolutely love to see a link to this recent town game, ideally the same post. Please, please, please give me that before you depart for the night.

Dyslexicon wrote:I didn't have three scum reads. I have none. Hopefully this changes with me reading the game. \o/

Golden isn't a scum read?

Golden wrote:Others more familiar - is dizzy correct when he says 'fake slips' such as this are common?

Silver Lantern wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Nachomamma8 wrote:Remove me and speedchuck and maaaaaybe Quin and you're three steps closer to solving the game!

I could consider all of the above.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Why is Marmot a townread?

Because he pretended to have the map before anyone else did. I appreciate the cover.

This is to say that it is possible, under certain conditions, for me to not have a town read on Marmot.

It is possible that he did it in the hopes that a noob with the map would have disputed his claim and painted a target on their back. Probably way too obvious a play though.

Plus what are the chances a noob would have gotten the map? Still a scum Marmot could have anticipated that sort of bolstering response from a veteran such as yourself to help him appear as town. I like that theory more.

Golden wrote:I've never come across an intentional fake slip before.

What did you hope to achieve with it?

I'm not really that bothered about your expectations of me. I haven't played very many closed role madness games and they still have plenty of surprises for me. I might be innovative but that doesn't mean I imagine everything that others think of. When quin posted about a slip it felt like an epiphany.

Others more familiar - is dizzy correct when he says 'fake slips' such as this are common?

Fredwood wrote:Seems like an odd thing to slip up on. I can't really be sure because I don't have an expanded Dossier on anyone particularly Dyslexicon. Seems odd that literally nothing else they posted took anything seriously then all of the sudden they post game relevant information that would get them lynched. It just appears counter intuitive to the representation of their character.

Again, the lack of experience forces me to defer on this argument. I probably shouldn't apply logic based on personal experience to people I've never met.


As to Sorsha, the comment barely registered at the time as anything signifigant, but since it gives us something else to talk about, I guess it serves a purpose, still think it was a joke. As someone who posts a lot of jokes that people don't register I am sympathetic and perhaps too lenient in my view of failed attempts at humor.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Marmot, while you're sloshed, why don't you tell us a little bit about your mafia team?

They're a wonderful group of peop le .

I'm more scred of the otherm afia team though.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Golden wrote:I've never come across an intentional fake slip before.

What did you hope to achieve with it?

I'm not really that bothered about your expectations of me. I haven't played very many closed role madness games and they still have plenty of surprises for me. I might be innovative but that doesn't mean I imagine everything that others think of. When quin posted about a slip it felt like an epiphany.

Others more familiar - is dizzy correct when he says 'fake slips' such as this are common?

I have done an intentional fake slip before.

But my goal was to get lynched. I can't say the same for Dizzy.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hell, I made a fakeslip in this game while I was drunk that nobody paid attention to.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Marmot, while you're sloshed, why don't you tell us a little bit about your mafia team?

They're a wonderful group of peop le .

I'm more scred of the otherm afia team though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I would like for you guys (Marmot and Quin) to tell me the civilian motive for a fake slip that isn't trying deliberately to get lynched.

Golden wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I would like for you guys (Marmot and Quin) to tell me the civilian motive for a fake slip that isn't trying deliberately to get lynched.

Hang on. I'd rather hear dizzys explanation of his motive first.

Quin wrote:Is it bad that I have no idea what the theme of this game is, and that I just signed up because I wanted to play mafia?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I would like for you guys (Marmot and Quin) to tell me the civilian motive for a fake slip that isn't trying deliberately to get lynched.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Nachomamma8 wrote:Remove me and speedchuck and maaaaaybe Quin and you're three steps closer to solving the game!

I could consider all of the above.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Why is Marmot a townread?

Because he pretended to have the map before anyone else did. I appreciate the cover.

This is to say that it is possible, under certain conditions, for me to not have a town read on Marmot.

It is possible that he did it in the hopes that a noob with the map would have disputed his claim and painted a target on their back. Probably way too obvious a play though.

Plus what are the chances a noob would have gotten the map? Still a scum Marmot could have anticipated that sort of bolstering response from a veteran such as yourself to help him appear as town. I like that theory more.

What makes you think I don't have the map? And do you have a preconception of my playstyle?

Silver Lantern wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Nachomamma8 wrote:Remove me and speedchuck and maaaaaybe Quin and you're three steps closer to solving the game!

I could consider all of the above.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Why is Marmot a townread?

Because he pretended to have the map before anyone else did. I appreciate the cover.

This is to say that it is possible, under certain conditions, for me to not have a town read on Marmot.

It is possible that he did it in the hopes that a noob with the map would have disputed his claim and painted a target on their back. Probably way too obvious a play though.

Plus what are the chances a noob would have gotten the map? Still a scum Marmot could have anticipated that sort of bolstering response from a veteran such as yourself to help him appear as town. I like that theory more.

What makes you think I don't have the map? And do you have a preconception of my playstyle?

Because I don't think it makes sense for the map holder to be the first to claim to have the map. Kinda bad play IMO. And No to the latter.

Dyslexicon wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:Five scum lolslip. I see people are really jumping on it, "great catch" . I'm surprised so many seems to take it seriously, but then I'm used to players being used to play with me. Hopefully some reactions stands out. I'm not dumb enough to slip for real in that way. It's a rather classic way of fake slipping. Did the same thing in one of my recent town games on my home site, same number even (HOW CONVENIENT).

I would absolutely love to see a link to this recent town game, ideally the same post. Please, please, please give me that before you depart for the night.

Dyslexicon wrote:I didn't have three scum reads. I have none. Hopefully this changes with me reading the game. \o/

Golden isn't a scum read?

Bah. Let me get my computer then. Y ppl be so serious

But since it's you <3

No, haven't really formed reads yet. Dunno. No more hard questions plz. o.o

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Nachomamma8 wrote:Remove me and speedchuck and maaaaaybe Quin and you're three steps closer to solving the game!

I could consider all of the above.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Why is Marmot a townread?

Because he pretended to have the map before anyone else did. I appreciate the cover.

This is to say that it is possible, under certain conditions, for me to not have a town read on Marmot.

It is possible that he did it in the hopes that a noob with the map would have disputed his claim and painted a target on their back. Probably way too obvious a play though.

Plus what are the chances a noob would have gotten the map? Still a scum Marmot could have anticipated that sort of bolstering response from a veteran such as yourself to help him appear as town. I like that theory more.

What makes you think I don't have the map? And do you have a preconception of my playstyle?

Because I don't think it makes sense for the map holder to be the first to claim to have the map. Kinda bad play IMO. And No to the latter.

I strive to not make too much sense. It keeps things interesting.

Clearly I'm not the only one. I was entrusted with enough votes to receive a map.