The Syndicate

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

notsawyer540 wrote:So is Ted Cruz dead or do we have to lynch him day 2? It says "he is" in the post where it says "he was" for Assange. So I'm assuming he have to lynch Jack next.

This.

And good job all!!

I will read back this evening, good news is while I had a long day today, I do NOT have jury duty, so I should have no worries re Mafia time.

Congrats - that sounded like it would have been AWFUL.

We were in a giant room with over 300 people. They needed 92 (4 groups of 23). And when they asked who was ready, willing and able, they got over 100. So the rest of us were free to go. And yeah, it would be really interesting if I wasn't the only person where I work who knows how to do what I do, lol. Someday, but not today.

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Also I'm going with orange. She pulls that color off better than some.

So Scotty was an Indy? But Jack is a Republican? So rereading him, I guess.

Also, any screencaps of the final poll?

S~V~S wrote:Also, any screencaps of the final poll?

I could scrounge one up if G-Man didn't save one.

Scotty was beyond independent. He was a last man standing serial killer. This is, in my opinion, the best possible Day 1 outcome short of a mafia powered role getting taken out instead.

Epignosis wrote:Scotty was beyond independent. He was a last man standing serial killer. This is, in my opinion, the best possible Day 1 outcome short of a mafia powered role getting taken out instead.

Agreed.

Marmot wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Also, any screencaps of the final poll?

I could scrounge one up if G-Man didn't save one.

Cool, could you do that?

Epignosis wrote:Scotty was beyond independent. He was a last man standing serial killer. This is, in my opinion, the best possible Day 1 outcome short of a mafia powered role getting taken out instead.

I was saying that in terms of priority for reading. Since he was Indy (even if he was the worst kind of Indy and we should all be shouting "Hallelujah" that he's gone) rereading his posts for connections isn't much of a priority.

DAY 0
DAY 1 POLL
NIGHT 1 POLL
DAY 2 POLL
NIGHT 2 POLL
DAY 3 POLL
NIGHT 3 POLL
DAY 4 POLL
NIGHT 4 POLL
DAY 5 POLL
DAY 6 POLL

Thank you

Day 1 Hillary Points Round-Up:

Long Con wrote:Alignment-declaration and roleclaiming are two different things.

+1 Hillary Point for displaying wisdom.

G-Man wrote:

Elohcin wrote:I'm going to vote for the next person who quotes the picture of that disgusting naked creature. I will never revisit page 5 again.

+1 Hillary Points for making me laugh. How do I nominate this quote for next year's Sockeys?

G-Man wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm really looking forward to hearing some Nickelback today.

+1 Hillary Point for being inclusive of the artistic expressions of other cultures, no matter how inferior.

G-Man wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Scotty has less than two hours to tell me more about his magic coin.

Fewer. -1 Hillary Points.

G-Man wrote:

Epignosis wrote:And you are wrong.

Less is also used with numbers when they are on their own and with expressions of measurement or time, e.g.:

His weight fell from 18 stone to less than 12.

Their marriage lasted less than two years.

Heath Square is less than four miles away from Dublin city centre.

Very well. 0.5 Hillary Points restored.

Once again, Hillary Clinton appreciates those who exercise their right to vote. +1 Hillary Points to all players who voted Day 1. An additional +1 Hillary Points to everyone who voted for Scotty and helped eliminate a force antagonistic toward Madam President.

Hillary Points Standings:

+5 Points: S~V~S
+4 Points: Elohcin, thellama73
+3 Points: FZ., Long Con, Marmot, notsawyer540
+2.5 Points: Epignosis
+2 Points: Dfaraday, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Scotty
+1 Point: DrWilgy, TheFloyd73
-4 Points: Quin

G-Man wrote:Day 1 Hillary Points Round-Up:

Long Con wrote:Alignment-declaration and roleclaiming are two different things.

+1 Hillary Point for displaying wisdom.

G-Man wrote:

Elohcin wrote:I'm going to vote for the next person who quotes the picture of that disgusting naked creature. I will never revisit page 5 again.

+1 Hillary Points for making me laugh. How do I nominate this quote for next year's Sockeys?

G-Man wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm really looking forward to hearing some Nickelback today.

+1 Hillary Point for being inclusive of the artistic expressions of other cultures, no matter how inferior.

G-Man wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Scotty has less than two hours to tell me more about his magic coin.

Fewer. -1 Hillary Points.

G-Man wrote:

Epignosis wrote:And you are wrong.

Less is also used with numbers when they are on their own and with expressions of measurement or time, e.g.:

His weight fell from 18 stone to less than 12.

Their marriage lasted less than two years.

Heath Square is less than four miles away from Dublin city centre.

Very well. 0.5 Hillary Points restored.

Once again, Hillary Clinton appreciates those who exercise their right to vote. +1 Hillary Points to all players who voted Day 1. An additional +1 Hillary Points to everyone who voted for Scotty and helped eliminate a force antagonistic toward Madam President.

Hillary Points Standings:

+5 Points: S~V~S
+4 Points: Elohcin, thellama73
+3 Points: FZ., Long Con, Marmot, notsawyer540
+2.5 Points: Epignosis
+2 Points: Dfaraday, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Scotty
+1 Point: DrWilgy, TheFloyd73
-4 Points: Quin

I appreciate you making it easier for me to know whom to lynch next.

S~V~S is dead meat.

Epignosis wrote:I appreciate you making it easier for me to know whom to lynch next.

S~V~S is dead meat.

-1 Hillary Points for using Hillary Points in any way relevant to the game.

I can't believe you guys haven't realised negative Hillary points are the way to go.

Hey llama, am I still bad?

G-Man wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I appreciate you making it easier for me to know whom to lynch next.

S~V~S is dead meat.

-1 Hillary Points for using Hillary Points in any way relevant to the game.

Can I have another Hillary Point? The Clinton foundation is a charity after all.

Let's talk more about how I tone read a Mafia player on day 1 again.

MacDougall wrote:Let's talk more about how I tone read a Mafia player on day 1 again.

Good boy.

I have work to do here, but it won't happen tonight or tomorrow morning, since I am recording music tonight and administering the ACT tomorrow.

Epignosis is so good at reading Mafia players that I can only assume that him finding an indy on day 1 is because he is Mafia otherwise he'd have scented out Jack. This is not a joke.

MacDougall wrote:Epignosis is so good at reading Mafia players that I can only assume that him finding an indy on day 1 is because he is Mafia otherwise he'd have scented out Jack. This is not a joke.

Of course it's not a joke. Jokes are funny.

It's 1am. I am too wide awake.

So I will do work.

Let's start with the obvious bullshit.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Hi everyone! I'm a doctor and Epignosis is bad!

They said I could keep my doctor, but I now see I'm stuck with Wigly.



Sorry guys, that's the best I got, tonight.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Hi everyone! I'm a doctor and Epignosis is bad!

They said I could keep my doctor, but I now see I'm stuck with Wigly.



Sorry guys, that's the best I got, tonight.

Hiii Jaaaaaaack, do you want to conquer the world with me?

DrWilgy wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I think Wilgy is bad.

Don't you always?

No.

Oh, does that make you bad?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Hi everyone! I'm a doctor and Epignosis is bad!

They said I could keep my doctor, but I now see I'm stuck with Wigly.



Sorry guys, that's the best I got, tonight.

Hiii Jaaaaaaack, do you want to conquer the world with me?

Good! We'll need afew things before we can begin.
*Wilgy hands Jack a list of objects*

Spoiler: show

2 Cups of Chicken Broth
2 Latex Dolphin Suits
3 ounces of Uranium 227
Hilary's Pantsuit
A 12 pack of Maruchan brand cup ramen
2 tooth brushes, but they both need to be pink (you may need to buy multiple multi packs to achieve this)
12 ounces of liquid essence of nihilism (just ask around the site for some of this, I'm sure you can find a bit of it here)
A hot Hillary Swank
A not hot Hillary Swank
A PCI Wifi Card
A Hug

thellama73 wrote:And since we're throwing out wild Day 0 accusations, I think Quin is bad.

I agree with this, Quin are you bad?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Wigly

I have none of those things. Now what?

I'm going to stop there.

If Wilgy is innocent, this would mean that he pulled a mafia member out of a hat to play fun and games with.

I don't believe Wilgy is innocent. Moving on.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I don't think I'v played with Jack of Hearts before, but I'm finding him annoying. He apologized for not being "entertaining" enough. Entertainment is not the goal of the game, boyo. Finding baddies is. Take the snark down a notch, why don't you, and answer me this:

Who are looking at voting today and why?

I know this post was accidentally aimed at me but I'll answer anyway.

We were in Unfortunate Events together but you got lynched on Day 1.

If I had a day kill that I had to use this second, I'd shoot Mac. Three seconds in and he's sure I'm scum? Never played with him before so his certainty is either a bluff or a lie (depending on his alignment and if he's bad, how many scum he thinks exist outside his group). Plenty of townies are jokingly certain of scum on Day 1 but with two posts about it, I get the impression he isn't joking. Some townies can act really certain on Day 1 when they actually just have a hunch. Don't know Mac's meta to know if he plays that type of a townie game or if he's just looking for a mislynch or to look like he's contributing.

I'm not actually planning on voting for Mac, though. I'm planning on voting for whoever pings me enough that I want to lead a lynch or my top suspect that is getting enough votes to make them lynchable. (I don't vote third party very often cause I want my vote to matter.) I don't know who that is, yet, but I'll let you know.

thellama73 meant for his post to be for notsawyer.

thellama73 wrote:Oh, wait a minute. Notsawyer is the one who apologized for not being entertaining. Same question to you, Notsawyer. Who do you suspect and why?

JoH went out of his way to respond to this.

Does this look contrived? My view is that it isn't. First, there was a reference to Unfortunate Events. Second, JoH goes on to talk about having a Day kill, which llama didn't ask about (incidentally, coupled with Mac's baseless jump on JoH, I'd say this makes MacDougall look worse, not better- the "I'm not actually planning on voting Mac [but I'd shoot him]" doesn't help).

Out of this, I like llama more and MacDougall less.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I don't think I'v played with Jack of Hearts before, but I'm finding him annoying. He apologized for not being "entertaining" enough. Entertainment is not the goal of the game, boyo. Finding baddies is. Take the snark down a notch, why don't you, and answer me this:

Who are looking at voting today and why?

I know this post was accidentally aimed at me but I'll answer anyway.

We were in Unfortunate Events together but you got lynched on Day 1.

If I had a day kill that I had to use this second, I'd shoot Mac. Three seconds in and he's sure I'm scum? Never played with him before so his certainty is either a bluff or a lie (depending on his alignment and if he's bad, how many scum he thinks exist outside his group). Plenty of townies are jokingly certain of scum on Day 1 but with two posts about it, I get the impression he isn't joking. Some townies can act really certain on Day 1 when they actually just have a hunch. Don't know Mac's meta to know if he plays that type of a townie game or if he's just looking for a mislynch or to look like he's contributing.

I'm not actually planning on voting for Mac, though. I'm planning on voting for whoever pings me enough that I want to lead a lynch or my top suspect that is getting enough votes to make them lynchable. (I don't vote third party very often cause I want my vote to matter.) I don't know who that is, yet, but I'll let you know.

Why you seem so bad then?

I don't know, Mac.

Why don't you tell me why you think I'm bad? Please be more detailed than your post about the cut of my jib.

Can you tell me more about yourself? How often do you catch scum on Day 1? How often do you act more sure of alignments than you really are? Whats your favorite role? You a site native or migrant mafia player? How long have you been playing?

I'm comfortable with Scotty voting for me early. Doesn't mean he's town but I've played enough with Scotty to kinda get his play style and I think is vote on me matches his style. I don't know you, though.

Am I McStrangepost? What's strange about which post?

Yeah, this looks contrived as hell. I'd vote Mac.

Again.

thellama73 wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:In answer to Epi's question, my vote for Quin is based on a Day 0 ping, odd, uncharacteristic behavior, which I tend to associate with baddies. I am also perturbed by Quin's unwillingness to take my vote seriously. I never really intended to leave my vote there, though. I haven't decided where to move it yet, but Notsawyer, for being wishy-washy, might get it. And JackofHearts, for being annoying and not answering questions seriously, might get it.

Can you be more specific?

I don't think there's a real question I've been asked that I didn't take seriously.

Convince me you aren't just being opportunistic by saying you might vote for one of the players who already has two votes for no real reason.

This post is pretty flippant, but in fairness to you, I think I keep confusing you with Notsawyer, since I don't know either of you. I can't tell you apart. Please try to be more distinctive.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I don't like the cut of this jackofhearts character's jib. Voting there.

Well I don't like that your avatar is what you'd get if Diablo fucked a sharptooth.

But I don't vote for stupid reason.

This exchange reinforces a good llama perspective for me.

Technically Epi, he jested with me first

DrWilgy wrote:Technically Epi, he jested with me first

I didn't say he jested with you first.

I said, "played fun and games with." He made a political joke first. You asked him a question first, thereby inciting and exchange.

G-Man wrote:Hillary Points Standings:

+5 Points: S~V~S
+4 Points: Elohcin, thellama73
+3 Points: FZ., Long Con, Marmot, notsawyer540
+2.5 Points: Epignosis
+2 Points: Dfaraday, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Scotty
+1 Point: DrWilgy, TheFloyd73
-4 Points: Quin

I don't remember receiving points but sure!


I might do the thing I always do on Day 1 and follow Epignosis's case, since he appears to be right.

Again.

Part of me would enjoy being lynched after this so I could mock you but I would prefer not.

Epignosis wrote:If Wilgy is innocent, this would mean that he pulled a mafia member out of a hat

Is inaccurate.

More informative and less feely would be the following:
"If Wilgy is innocent, this would mean that he joked around with a mafia member more than other players."

What a pleasant surprise. To be honest, I didn't think JackOH was bad. Not to take anything from Scotty's hunting skills, I don't think he would have wanted to take out a baddie, since that would mean he would have to be the last man standing, and that is probably harder than winning with the mafia, but who knows. I don't get why he was going after the person he wanted to take down with him anyway. Wouldn't that be a waste?

I have a screen cap from before I changed my time from Summer. So it's at least 50 minutes before the end of the day, but I believe it was earlier. I opened another window at some point to see the names of the players, and I did it much earlier. How do I post it?

Looking at the voting pattern, Quin voted for notsawyer after Jack had 2 votes. A good way to try and save your friend. Scotty didn't have votes at that point yet (unless I missed a switch of vote somewhere along the way). So I think that would be a good place to start. Baddies often like to vote early on a lynch wagon so they don't seem like they are bandwagoning. If his suspicions were genuine, DF is another good option to look into.

Epi, I have to disagree on Mac. It doesn't seem contrived to me, not to mention the fact that Jack was not at risk of getting lynched at the time Mac moved his vote from him to notsawyer, and keeping it there would have looked pretty good for him later on
I tend to agree on llama.His confusion between Jack and Sawyer felt genuine, and I actually found it hard to set the two apart at first.

Then, there's the list of those voting for Scotty. I believe the baddies probably spread their votes around, and since Jack put his vote there, the chances for another baddie there are lower. I don't think it's notsawyer because I think he was being used as a possible target. I now don't think it's Marmot either.
Not sure yet whether you could be bad, but I'm not seeing it for now, and Eloh feels good to me.

I think there is a baddie in one of the solo voters or someone who didn't vote

FZ you star. Many hearts.

Metaldarsh

@fz, my thoughts on Scotty are that, while winning as LMS us harder, it is more challenging and fun. In addition, lynching a Republican would get him some cred, right? As I understood Scotty's role, he knew Jacks?

I started rereading Jacks posts and interactions, will finish at work.

G-Man wrote:Polls have been added as a separate topic. Sorry for the delay. I was fighting with my router for a while there. Now I must review Day 1 for any more Hillary Points.

Thanks!

I just figured you were kicking it old school and not doing a poll thread. That thread is great but it spoils people. I remember games where people spent hours in thread reconstructing polls. Don't want to do that again, lol.

@Epi, is that something Wilgy does, goof around with teammates in thread? I don't recall him really much interacting in thread with his team in last years GOC but otherwise I don't have much basis of comparison. Because unless he does that seems like a rather null action to me.

Also in your read back of Jack what were your thoughts on his posts regarding the discussion Quin and I had, and Jacks interpretation of it.

Same question for Quin, actually.

Uh didn't Wilgy and I literally create a four way tie immortalised in sig widget for shits and giggles?

MacDougall wrote:Uh didn't Wilgy and I literally create a four way tie immortalised in sig widget for shits and giggles?

It was him too? Hrm, I forgot about his involvement, I just remembered yours

Did he chatter with you alot in thread besides that?

MacDougall wrote:That is one dangerous indy role. Thanks Scotty though for vindicating me.

MacDougall wrote:Let's talk more about how I tone read a Mafia player on day 1 again.

Yeah, but you took your vote off of him and placed it on me, so I don't see that as vindication. And I see these two followup posts as an attempt to become a "confirmed civ."

FZ. wrote:What a pleasant surprise. To be honest, I didn't think JackOH was bad. Not to take anything from Scotty's hunting skills, I don't think he would have wanted to take out a baddie, since that would mean he would have to be the last man standing, and that is probably harder than winning with the mafia, but who knows. I don't get why he was going after the person he wanted to take down with him anyway. Wouldn't that be a waste?

I have a screen cap from before I changed my time from Summer. So it's at least 50 minutes before the end of the day, but I believe it was earlier. I opened another window at some point to see the names of the players, and I did it much earlier. How do I post it?

Looking at the voting pattern, Quin voted for notsawyer after Jack had 2 votes. A good way to try and save your friend. Scotty didn't have votes at that point yet (unless I missed a switch of vote somewhere along the way). So I think that would be a good place to start. Baddies often like to vote early on a lynch wagon so they don't seem like they are bandwagoning. If his suspicions were genuine, DF is another good option to look into.

Epi, I have to disagree on Mac. It doesn't seem contrived to me, not to mention the fact that Jack was not at risk of getting lynched at the time Mac moved his vote from him to notsawyer, and keeping it there would have looked pretty good for him later on
I tend to agree on llama.His confusion between Jack and Sawyer felt genuine, and I actually found it hard to set the two apart at first.

Then, there's the list of those voting for Scotty. I believe the baddies probably spread their votes around, and since Jack put his vote there, the chances for another baddie there are lower. I don't think it's notsawyer because I think he was being used as a possible target. I now don't think it's Marmot either.
Not sure yet whether you could be bad, but I'm not seeing it for now, and Eloh feels good to me.

I think there is a baddie in one of the solo voters or someone who didn't vote

Good work. What do you think is the most important thing we should take from this?

Also, I would like to point out that DFaraday, who has only three posts so far, came in close to the vote and claimed that he "randomized" his vote for me. Does anyone know of any scheduling or personal issues that preclude him from participating more fully?

While I'm on the topic of scheduling, I have three classes today and my commute is about an hour, so I'll be out with no computer access until it's Daytime in-game.

@Scotty

FZ. wrote:What a pleasant surprise. To be honest, I didn't think JackOH was bad. Not to take anything from Scotty's hunting skills, I don't think he would have wanted to take out a baddie, since that would mean he would have to be the last man standing, and that is probably harder than winning with the mafia, but who knows. I don't get why he was going after the person he wanted to take down with him anyway. Wouldn't that be a waste?

To be fair, it looked like Scotty had to pick his name on Night 0, a time when he could hardly have had a read on anyone.

@Epi

This country is sick and tired of your liberal bias. Why won't you say RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM?

How do I keep getting elected?

Maybe they will take you back in Calgary, your home town, when you have to leave here.

S~V~S wrote:Maybe they will take you back in Calgary, your home town, when you have to leave here.

As long as he promises never to politics again.

Quin wrote:I can't believe you guys haven't realised negative Hillary points are the way to go.

Hey llama, am I still bad?

I don't know. Were you ever bad?

MacDougall wrote:Epignosis is so good at reading Mafia players that I can only assume that him finding an indy on day 1 is because he is Mafia otherwise he'd have scented out Jack. This is not a joke.

I'm not happy with Mac's glowing buddying with Epi here. "Oh Epi, you're so smart and handsome! Lead me! Lead me hard!"

Shifty.

thellama73 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Epignosis is so good at reading Mafia players that I can only assume that him finding an indy on day 1 is because he is Mafia otherwise he'd have scented out Jack. This is not a joke.

I'm not happy with Mac's glowing buddying with Epi here. "Oh Epi, you're so smart and handsome! Lead me! Lead me hard!"

Shifty.

Isn't that what I did?

Marmot wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Epignosis is so good at reading Mafia players that I can only assume that him finding an indy on day 1 is because he is Mafia otherwise he'd have scented out Jack. This is not a joke.

I'm not happy with Mac's glowing buddying with Epi here. "Oh Epi, you're so smart and handsome! Lead me! Lead me hard!"

Shifty.

Isn't that what I did?

No, you're different. You're a marmot.

thellama73 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Epignosis is so good at reading Mafia players that I can only assume that him finding an indy on day 1 is because he is Mafia otherwise he'd have scented out Jack. This is not a joke.

I'm not happy with Mac's glowing buddying with Epi here. "Oh Epi, you're so smart and handsome! Lead me! Lead me hard!"

Shifty.

Now, see, I took the exact opposite from that post. I thought he was being snide, lol. Even with the "no joke" qualifier. Becasue if what he said was even remotely true, Epi would win every game he plays as a civvie. While Epi can be awesome, no one is awesome ALL the time.

But I suppose reading it as you do makes more sense.

S~V~S wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Uh didn't Wilgy and I literally create a four way tie immortalised in sig widget for shits and giggles?

It was him too? Hrm, I forgot about his involvement, I just remembered yours

Did he chatter with you alot in thread besides that?

Oh yeah, that was fun.

I think the only game where I specifically chose a teammate to joke around with was Marmot in RoTK and that ended horribly.

DrWilgy wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Uh didn't Wilgy and I literally create a four way tie immortalised in sig widget for shits and giggles?

It was him too? Hrm, I forgot about his involvement, I just remembered yours

Did he chatter with you alot in thread besides that?

Oh yeah, that was fun.

I think the only game where I specifically chose a teammate to joke around with was Marmot in RoTK and that ended horribly.

The dead marmot from that game is still churning in his grave.