Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I think this combined with his consumption of most of the day going round and round with LC makes him suspicious. To me at least.
I didn't go round and round with LC? I voted for him and explained why the most out of everyone else I voted for him.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:39 pmI think this combined with his consumption of most of the day going round and round with LC makes him suspicious. To me at least.
Again, maybe the long-time players can correct me here, but it just seems fishy is all. I could easily be off base.
Hey, Mal.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:39 pmI think this combined with his consumption of most of the day going round and round with LC makes him suspicious. To me at least.
Again, maybe the long-time players can correct me here, but it just seems fishy is all. I could easily be off base.
HmmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:12 pmHow's aboutspeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:44 pmShe went back and forth in night vale, but not usually in the same post. A sampling of her D1/N1 posts that game:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:35 pm I thought Eloh was wushu washy in Nightvake in the exact same way she is here.
"I actually like this response to Epi. I think if someone grasps onto this "reason" for why Tony may be mafia, they should be looked at more closely as maybe being mafia themselves."
"So in other words, you're going to vote for someone based on your weaknesses? I think you may have my vote."
"If I could cqhnge my vote it would be to you. You're acting very scummy."
"I think I'm seeing a town golden."
"Who was it that said, "please don't vote jack" out of nowhere yesterday at end of day 1? I wanted to inquire about that."
Me, that was me. I did that. "Why did you say it?"
In night vale, Eloh flopped back and forth, sure. But she made statements. She called out things, questioned people, made calls on reads. Whereas in this game Eloh has been wishy-washy. I know it's backwards, but meta-wise: Is Eloh's current act just town unsureness?
Or is Eloh's more confident act something she does when scumhunting, since night vale had two scumteams? That would make her more scummy this game.
linki: Because of her non-committal statements, Sloon. I'm trying to figure out if Eloh's meta points one way or another right now.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 42#p365942
and
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 30#p366030
Pretending not to understand a case and jump the gun voting for someone she doesn't actually suspect? That's what bad Eloh did in Nightvale and that looks like what she's doing here, too.
At the time I voted for LC, I hadn't read the thread at all. I only voted him as a counterwagon to Bass so people would have a choice. Heck, at the time I didn't even know bass was a no-show.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:59 pm...I'm confused.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:26 am Dii is prob town, I think. Despite this next comment.
The push on LC to clarify why he didn't use OT green text to comment on sloonei is pretty much the silliest (to use a nice word) exchange I've ever seen. It made LC look better for no reason. I'm not going to read into the thing on LC much. LC's defense was good, but any townie or scummie can defend against a stupid argument. Hmph.
Tinfoil MP/LC scumteam, with all the buddying and false accusations between them. Just doesn't sit well with me.
Why did you vote for LC then?
Sorry, I meant MP and LC went round and round. Wasn't referring to you. I like what you've said so far.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:42 pmI didn't go round and round with LC? I voted for him and explained why the most out of everyone else I voted for him.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:39 pmI think this combined with his consumption of most of the day going round and round with LC makes him suspicious. To me at least.
Again, maybe the long-time players can correct me here, but it just seems fishy is all. I could easily be off base.
Everyone else went round and round, that isn't on me.
and what is wrong with asking inactive players to be possibly replaced rather than lynched by default because they are inactive?
Not me?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:42 pmHey, Mal.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:39 pmI think this combined with his consumption of most of the day going round and round with LC makes him suspicious. To me at least.
Again, maybe the long-time players can correct me here, but it just seems fishy is all. I could easily be off base.
Who is bad?
well at least you're honestspeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:57 pmAt the time I voted for LC, I hadn't read the thread at all. I only voted him as a counterwagon to Bass so people would have a choice. Heck, at the time I didn't even know bass was a no-show.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:59 pm...I'm confused.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:26 am Dii is prob town, I think. Despite this next comment.
The push on LC to clarify why he didn't use OT green text to comment on sloonei is pretty much the silliest (to use a nice word) exchange I've ever seen. It made LC look better for no reason. I'm not going to read into the thing on LC much. LC's defense was good, but any townie or scummie can defend against a stupid argument. Hmph.
Tinfoil MP/LC scumteam, with all the buddying and false accusations between them. Just doesn't sit well with me.
Why did you vote for LC then?
Why MP? Why Eloh?malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:00 pmNot me?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:42 pmHey, Mal.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:39 pmI think this combined with his consumption of most of the day going round and round with LC makes him suspicious. To me at least.
Again, maybe the long-time players can correct me here, but it just seems fishy is all. I could easily be off base.
Who is bad?
Seriously, leaning towards MP and Eloh at this point. And maybe you, because you're posting.
MP's devouring the entire day going after LC, then breaking off and voting for an inactive instead just... I dunno, it rubs me the wrong way. Maybe that's just a town style for him, but to me it just feels off. Especially since that can really just drown out other possible suspects. I mean, it is Day 1, so I don't necessarily believe it for certain, but if you asked me which direction I was leaning, that would be one.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:07 pmWhy MP? Why Eloh?malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:00 pmNot me?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:42 pmHey, Mal.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:39 pmI think this combined with his consumption of most of the day going round and round with LC makes him suspicious. To me at least.
Again, maybe the long-time players can correct me here, but it just seems fishy is all. I could easily be off base.
Who is bad?
Seriously, leaning towards MP and Eloh at this point. And maybe you, because you're posting.
MP always seems to pick someone to go round and round with in the beginning of games. It doesn't atick out tobme as something to say he's bad.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:39 pmI think this combined with his consumption of most of the day going round and round with LC makes him suspicious. To me at least.
Again, maybe the long-time players can correct me here, but it just seems fishy is all. I could easily be off base.
I'm just enjoying trying to figure out where everyone is coming from in this new (to me) way of doing things. It's fun!Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:22 pmMP always seems to pick someone to go round and round with in the beginning of games. It doesn't atick out tobme as something to say he's bad.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:39 pmI think this combined with his consumption of most of the day going round and round with LC makes him suspicious. To me at least.
Again, maybe the long-time players can correct me here, but it just seems fishy is all. I could easily be off base.
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So, wow! I don't think I've ever been analyzed this much in a game before. Please keep talking. I love hearing what you guys think my mera is. I honestly don't know if I have a specific civ or acum meta. I think I pretty much play the same either way and it's just a crapshoot whether players think I'm good or bad as well as whether I turn out to be good or bad despite their thoughts on me.
Your reputation clearly proceeds you.
When you type the @ symbol before the name of the person you are mentioning, a drop down with their name will appear, you have to click their name in order to turn it into a mention.
@SpacedaisySpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:33 pmWhen you type the @ symbol before the name of the person you are mentioning, a drop down with their name will appear, you have to click their name in order to turn it into a mention.
Hmm... let me look into it.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:34 pm@SpacedaisySpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:33 pmWhen you type the @ symbol before the name of the person you are mentioning, a drop down with their name will appear, you have to click their name in order to turn it into a mention.
we don't get that
Actually, I'm not seeing it either.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:34 pm@SpacedaisySpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:33 pmWhen you type the @ symbol before the name of the person you are mentioning, a drop down with their name will appear, you have to click their name in order to turn it into a mention.
we don't get that
your reputation precedes you...malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:36 pmActually, I'm not seeing it either.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:34 pm@SpacedaisySpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:33 pmWhen you type the @ symbol before the name of the person you are mentioning, a drop down with their name will appear, you have to click their name in order to turn it into a mention.
we don't get that
Ok, so for some reason you have to put it as the first thing in the post. So when you quote someone and try to @ mention after whatever you posted it won't work. Try putting the @ mention at the top. It's kind of an inconsistent bug, sorry. Not sure the reason for this.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:36 pmActually, I'm not seeing it either.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:34 pm@SpacedaisySpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:33 pmWhen you type the @ symbol before the name of the person you are mentioning, a drop down with their name will appear, you have to click their name in order to turn it into a mention.
we don't get that
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:39 pmyour reputation precedes you...malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:36 pmActually, I'm not seeing it either.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:34 pm@SpacedaisySpacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:33 pmWhen you type the @ symbol before the name of the person you are mentioning, a drop down with their name will appear, you have to click their name in order to turn it into a mention.
we don't get that
I can see some similarities, but I'm not convinced that those similarities aren't because they're both Elohcin. Perhaps a Civ role she had for comparison? I mean, Night Vale she was bad, I assume. She was bad with me, I think.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:55 pmHmmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:12 pmHow's aboutspeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:44 pmShe went back and forth in night vale, but not usually in the same post. A sampling of her D1/N1 posts that game:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:35 pm I thought Eloh was wushu washy in Nightvake in the exact same way she is here.
"I actually like this response to Epi. I think if someone grasps onto this "reason" for why Tony may be mafia, they should be looked at more closely as maybe being mafia themselves."
"So in other words, you're going to vote for someone based on your weaknesses? I think you may have my vote."
"If I could cqhnge my vote it would be to you. You're acting very scummy."
"I think I'm seeing a town golden."
"Who was it that said, "please don't vote jack" out of nowhere yesterday at end of day 1? I wanted to inquire about that."
Me, that was me. I did that. "Why did you say it?"
In night vale, Eloh flopped back and forth, sure. But she made statements. She called out things, questioned people, made calls on reads. Whereas in this game Eloh has been wishy-washy. I know it's backwards, but meta-wise: Is Eloh's current act just town unsureness?
Or is Eloh's more confident act something she does when scumhunting, since night vale had two scumteams? That would make her more scummy this game.
linki: Because of her non-committal statements, Sloon. I'm trying to figure out if Eloh's meta points one way or another right now.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 42#p365942
and
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 30#p366030
Pretending not to understand a case and jump the gun voting for someone she doesn't actually suspect? That's what bad Eloh did in Nightvale and that looks like what she's doing here, too.
It's a bit different with unchangeable votes, but otherwise, I do agree. There are similarities as well. Do you think the similarities outweigh the difference in tone that I demonstrated?
@anybody: If you can follow this discussion, please, give your thoughts on it
I don't care if you hate it; why would this make me bad?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:16 pmI hate this post. Whole lotta nothing. Like trying to guess the plot of a show. But there is no script, no writer playing up drama, just players playing and thus, no strength behind these ideas.MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:42 pmProbably. I'm sure I'll get brazen at some point here too like I almost always do, but my record at actually catching scum when I put my foot full on the brakes is almost certainly laughably bad. Especially early on in games the past couple of years, I try to be as measured as possible, but I'll still poke something if I feel there's something worth poking. As the game progresses I'll probably be more likely to pursue something doggedly. It depends inevitably on what happens though. If I really thought there was something super suspicious in the thread right now I'd be all over it, I think anyway. As it stands, unfortunately I think this game is a more typical Day 1 -- there's a bunch of weaksauce cases to be made that may or may not be totally legit, and I'm not in love with any of them -- specifically, the thoughts people have said re: any of the players with votes right now (Sloonei, JOH, LC, and speedchuck). With that said, however, I'm most potentially swayed by dunya's observation of LC. Just not ready to pull the trigger on it. Not convinced in the slightest by any of the others.Diiny wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:31 pmI remember you being a tad more brazen than this in our games on OT. I like that you've stuck your neck out for some people, but tbh conversely that ties in with my fear of you treading very lightly.MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:15 pm I'm cautious because this is me. If I were to display any amount of confidence on Day 1 I'd be full on in MP hurricane mode based on very little and that typically doesn't end as well for town as I'd like it to, to put it lightly. I find that town benefits much better from me being cautious than careless.
If you had to choose right now, who's scum? Is your vote staying on squid? show me some fire without any actual consequences.
If I had to choose right now... ugh. I'm terrible at scum reads early in the game and these days much prefer to play POE for the first phase or two because I think it plays to my strengths. That said, I suppose I'd pick two or three of Bass, DFaraday, Dom, DrWilgy, Elohcin, and malakim to be bad (and which I choose would be basically luck at this point because none of them have literally anything substantial to judge), and then one of the players with votes right now that have some heat (JOH, Sloonei, LC, speedchuck -- GTH I'd pick LC), and then one of the more talkative bunch so far (you, Jay, dunya, Sloonei again, Blooper -- GTH I'd pick Jay). So LC, Jay, and two lurkers basically. I think.
As for what I'd do with my vote, it's very likely moving away from Blooper. I don't feel anything bad about her right now; it was basically RVS. I'd most likely vote for Bass. Not sure yet. It'd be nice if more folks popped in here soon so I can sort through how everyone else is feeling.
I dislike his interactions with LC a lot (in that LC comes out on top and MP comes across dishonest) and of course, his push on Bass, a townie.
At this point, MP is my top suspect.
How did you come to this conclusion?Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:20 pmi doubt diiny has bstcMovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:27 pmDoes this post seem forced to anyone else?
I'm not necessarily scum-reading Diiny for it, but something is off. It just seems to me Diiny is struggling coming up with conversation, but it's striking to me that he singled out Jay only for this inquiry.
To be fair, that's not true. Jay did suggest an alternative: Sloonei.Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:38 pmcriticizes everyoneJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:54 pm I am thoroughly underwhelmed by a Bass lynch. This is laziness. I can on rare occasion understand lynching a total lurker on a Day 1 wherein the participate rate is abysmal and there's nothing to work with, but this one hasn't been bad. There are plenty of posts, though I admit that I haven't read them all yet.
doesn't offer alternative
is bad.
What about it is an analysis, and what about it is decent? What specifically do you find agreeable? I don't see any analysis. I just see someone stating an opinion that I'm being dishonest without any specific details. So what do you agree with exactly?Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:42 pmthis is a decent analysis.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:16 pmI hate this post. Whole lotta nothing. Like trying to guess the plot of a show. But there is no script, no writer playing up drama, just players playing and thus, no strength behind these ideas.MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:42 pmProbably. I'm sure I'll get brazen at some point here too like I almost always do, but my record at actually catching scum when I put my foot full on the brakes is almost certainly laughably bad. Especially early on in games the past couple of years, I try to be as measured as possible, but I'll still poke something if I feel there's something worth poking. As the game progresses I'll probably be more likely to pursue something doggedly. It depends inevitably on what happens though. If I really thought there was something super suspicious in the thread right now I'd be all over it, I think anyway. As it stands, unfortunately I think this game is a more typical Day 1 -- there's a bunch of weaksauce cases to be made that may or may not be totally legit, and I'm not in love with any of them -- specifically, the thoughts people have said re: any of the players with votes right now (Sloonei, JOH, LC, and speedchuck). With that said, however, I'm most potentially swayed by dunya's observation of LC. Just not ready to pull the trigger on it. Not convinced in the slightest by any of the others.Diiny wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:31 pmI remember you being a tad more brazen than this in our games on OT. I like that you've stuck your neck out for some people, but tbh conversely that ties in with my fear of you treading very lightly.MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:15 pm I'm cautious because this is me. If I were to display any amount of confidence on Day 1 I'd be full on in MP hurricane mode based on very little and that typically doesn't end as well for town as I'd like it to, to put it lightly. I find that town benefits much better from me being cautious than careless.
If you had to choose right now, who's scum? Is your vote staying on squid? show me some fire without any actual consequences.
If I had to choose right now... ugh. I'm terrible at scum reads early in the game and these days much prefer to play POE for the first phase or two because I think it plays to my strengths. That said, I suppose I'd pick two or three of Bass, DFaraday, Dom, DrWilgy, Elohcin, and malakim to be bad (and which I choose would be basically luck at this point because none of them have literally anything substantial to judge), and then one of the players with votes right now that have some heat (JOH, Sloonei, LC, speedchuck -- GTH I'd pick LC), and then one of the more talkative bunch so far (you, Jay, dunya, Sloonei again, Blooper -- GTH I'd pick Jay). So LC, Jay, and two lurkers basically. I think.
As for what I'd do with my vote, it's very likely moving away from Blooper. I don't feel anything bad about her right now; it was basically RVS. I'd most likely vote for Bass. Not sure yet. It'd be nice if more folks popped in here soon so I can sort through how everyone else is feeling.
I dislike his interactions with LC a lot (in that LC comes out on top and MP comes across dishonest) and of course, his push on Bass, a townie.
At this point, MP is my top suspect.
specifically, i hate when mp lectures people on his own meta.
Okay, well ignore my other question, but what led you to this conclusion?Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:43 pmi meant dunyaDom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:20 pmi doubt diiny has bstcMovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:27 pmDoes this post seem forced to anyone else?
I'm not necessarily scum-reading Diiny for it, but something is off. It just seems to me Diiny is struggling coming up with conversation, but it's striking to me that he singled out Jay only for this inquiry.
confused y'all.
Just to be clear: You believe what is mild buddying, what JOH is doing or what I am doing or something else?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:49 pmAs MP may or may not tell you, he actually defended me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:41 pmHence part of my suspicion of MP and his accusations of LC falling flat.
To avoid misinterpretation or whatever: I believe this is mild buddying.
Why?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:52 pmI don't like this handwavy defense of MP.Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:57 pmOoo, Sweden. I'm fascinated by other places because I've never been off the east coast of the United States.
I think Simon is civ. I agree with MP that his contributions seem solid. I will also say that Simon is right in that we were talking about street fighter costumes for Halloween. We like to dress up as a family sometimes and I was asking who Abigail (my daughter) and I could be. I was unsure of how many girls were in the game. And I brought up how the characters wear almost nothing and we couldn't dress like skanks (well ever!) but specifically at the end of October. Anyway. That's all I'll say about that.
I don't think LC is bad at this time. I'll tell you if I change my mind on that.
I don't think MP is bad atm either. He likes to get his boxers in a bunch Day 1, I've learned thia of him. So I don't pay him any mind.
I don't know who is bad yet, but if I had to guess it would be niju. She is awful chatty for her meta. Maybe she is just happy with that new ring on her finger. But she is definitely acting outside her usual self.
Also, sorry for not being present today. I was out all day with lots to do.
I don't like her town reading Simon when all Simon has done is town read her. Reads like a congratulations for reaching a conclusion she wants.
(I almost always scumread Eloh but she's almost always bad when we play together.)
Please display where I heavily townread you, because I don't believe I ever said such a thing. I did you throw you into my townreads based on gut really, but that's about it. If you think that's buddying, OK, that accusation is hurled at me nearly every game. I like to focus on town reads, so it's a byproduct of that.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:54 pmFelt like a backtrack for sure.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:49 pmAs MP may or may not tell you, he actually defended me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:41 pmHence part of my suspicion of MP and his accusations of LC falling flat.
To avoid misinterpretation or whatever: I believe this is mild buddying.
Him heavily townreading me after I made one joke post also reads as buddying. It has been stated that I tend to read based on myself more than I really should. I've been wary of buddying attempts of late, especially from Mass Effect players.
