The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:20 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:16 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:50 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:17 pm I just looked back and I think I don't understand what he was saying.
It is unclear how speedchuck is changing his reads. He says he has no town reads, but earlier in the game he had clearly stated town reads in Epi, Sloonei, and (perhaps) sanmateo. What alarms me further is that speedchuck is saying he doesn't like how all over the place the thread is (but he's worse than almost anyone else in that regard, at least from what I saw) AND he says he wants to vote for either LC or Epi "for information" when he clearly was defending Epi as a town read earlier. I found no substantiated reason for his change of mind.

I therefore believe that he is likely fabricating his reads.
My problem with this is that speedchuck is quite careful and a devious kind.

Do you think he'd forget he said I was good and then call me bad later?

I don't.

That's a fair point. I'm not sure he'd "forget", but his opinions just seemed all over the place to me. I guess it's potentially genuine inconsistency as opposed to opportunistic fabrication.

I'm not even sure I've personally seen a mafia-aligned speedchuck.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:21 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:17 pm Hey Epi, whats on the fprefront pf your mind rn? It doesn't have to be game related.

Fuck you Max Scherzer.

Michael A. Taylor with an in-the-park Grand Slam.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:22 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:20 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:16 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:50 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:17 pm I just looked back and I think I don't understand what he was saying.
It is unclear how speedchuck is changing his reads. He says he has no town reads, but earlier in the game he had clearly stated town reads in Epi, Sloonei, and (perhaps) sanmateo. What alarms me further is that speedchuck is saying he doesn't like how all over the place the thread is (but he's worse than almost anyone else in that regard, at least from what I saw) AND he says he wants to vote for either LC or Epi "for information" when he clearly was defending Epi as a town read earlier. I found no substantiated reason for his change of mind.

I therefore believe that he is likely fabricating his reads.
My problem with this is that speedchuck is quite careful and a devious kind.

Do you think he'd forget he said I was good and then call me bad later?

I don't.

That's a fair point. I'm not sure he'd "forget", but his opinions just seemed all over the place to me. I guess it's potentially genuine inconsistency as opposed to opportunistic fabrication.

I'm not even sure I've personally seen a mafia-aligned speedchuck.

Night Vale. He was brilliant.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:24 pm**

I would prefer to hear from him too before condemning him to death. I guess I could hop to Sloonei or LC as well but ehhhhh. I don't feel that great about those options let alone anyone else.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:25 pm**

Other people should say things.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:32 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:35 pm I'm curious: Where do you come from, @NewTraditionalist ?

Epi, do you still suspect me? Ever gonna follow through and elaborate why?

I feel like the day is going in circles, and I don't like that. Votes are spread, and I don't like that. I don't have anything with me to eat, and I don't like that.

Worst of all, though, I don't really have any town reads. This never happens. I usually just bandwagon on with a townie for the wins. Uhhhh.... Leaning toward voting Epi or LC, for info and thread-clearing clarify and decent odds that one of them are scum.

So you go from sloonei and Epig being town reads to no town reads at all? Really?

Switches vote to speedchuck

You've had an inconsistent logic fail, and now this. That's enough for me to move my vote.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:33 pm**

Fffffffff I'm on the bus and I spent forever typing a catching up post on my slow af phone and then lost it. Will post when I get home right before deadline

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:34 pm**

If speedchuck is bad, he's playing dumb to his own posts, and based on his performance in Night Vale, I don't see that.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:35 pm**

For those who don't know, speedchuck painstakingly went over games he wasn't even in so he could craft curses that would frame people who were in those games.

He was top-notch mafia.

Forgetting you just called a guy good on Day 1 isn't top-notch mafia.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:35 pm**

Yeah, I'm nervous about this now. Ugh.

I guess I'll switch to LC.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:38 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:33 pm Fffffffff I'm on the bus and I spent forever typing a catching up post on my slow af phone and then lost it. Will post when I get home right before deadline

Where's your vote?

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:39 pm**

Deadline is in SIX minutes, not 21.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:42 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:38 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:33 pm Fffffffff I'm on the bus and I spent forever typing a catching up post on my slow af phone and then lost it. Will post when I get home right before deadline
Where's your vote?

Didn't mean to sound insensitive, by the way, just curious where your vote is landing. Curious to hear your catch-up thoughts whenever you're able.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:44 pm**

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:44 pm**

Yeah, this isn't good. speedchuck getting lynched because he looks inconsistent? That's what mafia do? Look inconsistent on Day 1? Fuck outta here.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:45 pm**

I'm sticking with my vote fwiw.

F**k you MP. Fine, I'll do a rainbow read even though I don't care for these things.

Moderate Town:
MP
BWT

Slight Town:
Epig
Sloonei
SD

Null:
Dom
DDL
Wilgy
NewTraditionalist
Nutella[
sanmateo
Serge/b]

Slight Scum:
LC

Moderate Scum:
speedchuck

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:46 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:44 pm Yeah, this isn't good. speedchuck getting lynched because he looks inconsistent? That's what mafia do? Look inconsistent on Day 1? Fuck outta here.

If you're going to go that far, you could use the same argument for me on most of my D1 lynches.

And as I stated in my opinion, there's more to it to me than just being inconsistent.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:46 pm**

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:46 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:44 pm Yeah, this isn't good. speedchuck getting lynched because he looks inconsistent? That's what mafia do? Look inconsistent on Day 1? Fuck outta here.
If you're going to go that far, you could use the same argument for me on most of my D1 lynches. And as I stated in my opinion, there's more to it to me than just being inconsistent.

And I defend you all the time on Day 1.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:47 pm**

I don't know. I guess either LC or speedchuck is OK. Just don't want it to be me.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:47 pm**

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:45 pm I'm sticking with my vote fwiw.

F**k you MP. Fine, I'll do a rainbow read even though I don't care for these things.

Moderate Town:
MP
BWT

Slight Town:
Epig
Sloonei
SD

Null:
Dom
DDL
Wilgy
NewTraditionalist
Nutella[
sanmateo
Serge/b]

Slight Scum:
LC

Moderate Scum:
speedchuck

Wouldn't you be confirmed town on your own rainbow, why only moderate?

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:48 pm**

Day 1 ends.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:50 pm**

Well, I have to get back to work. I won't be here again other than to check result(s) until after my (crucial) deadline which is Sunday evening. See you all then.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:52 pm**

The investigation team made way for New South Wales, and anxiety was running high. Every person they passed raised their suspicions. Quin could be waiting around any corner, under any tree, perhaps even in the trunk of their cars! They acted quickly against their first suspect.

Long Con has been lynched. He was:

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:52 pm**

I guess I'll see if I'm wrong about Elsie and than I can throw myself off a bridge if so.

He didn't vote though. When we were bad together, he didn't vote to save himself then either, so I'm hoping.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:53 pm**

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:55 pm**

Night 1

Quin Search: where in New South Wales is Quin? Leads are murkier than ever now with the top detective lost, but there has been word that Quin was in Dubbo and possibly headed south.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:55 pm**

Voting for speedchuck. Somehow since I last checked about 15 minutes ago a few more votes moved to LC, and I probably missed something since I didn't have time to catch up after work since you guys post too damn much, but I still suspect speedchuck. In the post I lost I was also going to say that I feel about the same about DDL as I do about speedchuck. I haven't been reading him as town and could have easily voted for him as well.

...linki wait what why did it end what the fuck I thought I had more time.. the poll said the hour, did somebody end it early, I am so out of the loop fuck stop putting all the deadlines at the end of my work hours it's the worst

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 pm**

also holy shit the worst role to lose wow great job everybody

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:57 pm**

Well crap. That's not good.

I'm going with C just because a town named Wagga Wagga made me laugh enough to pick it.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:58 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 pm also holy shit the worst role to lose wow great job everybody

You won no right to roll your eyes, Miss Ten Post.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm**

Oh, how I pity thee.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm**

And how do you know that is the worst role to lose?

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm**

why do hosts keep screwing me over? first G-Man kills me for no reason and now suddenly my tie-causing vote doesn't count even though the poll deadline hadn't passed? this sucks you guys why can't I just play mafia without things going wrong beyond my control

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 pm also holy shit the worst role to lose wow great job everybody

We don't know all the roles, so how is that the worst one to lose?

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:04 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm why do hosts keep screwing me over? first G-Man kills me for no reason and now suddenly my tie-causing vote doesn't count even though the poll deadline hadn't passed? this sucks you guys why can't I just play mafia without things going wrong beyond my control

3J posted that the Day would be reduced by 15 minutes. He probably should have PMed that to everybody, I guess.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:05 pm**

That said, I don't think phases should EVER be reduced. If you set a deadline, only ever extend it- never reduce it. That's my philosophy anyway.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:05 pm**

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 pm also holy shit the worst role to lose wow great job everybody
We don't know all the roles, so how is that the worst one to lose?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm And how do you know that is the worst role to lose?

I think it' pretty common for civilians to think the cop is the most informative role they've got on their side. Come on guys.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:06 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:05 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 pm also holy shit the worst role to lose wow great job everybody
We don't know all the roles, so how is that the worst one to lose?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm And how do you know that is the worst role to lose?

I think it' pretty common for civilians to think the cop is the most informative role they've got on their side. Come on guys.

LC wasn't a cop. Don't come on me.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:10 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:05 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 pm also holy shit the worst role to lose wow great job everybody
We don't know all the roles, so how is that the worst one to lose?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm And how do you know that is the worst role to lose?

I think it' pretty common for civilians to think the cop is the most informative role they've got on their side. Come on guys.

How is his role the cop role? To me, a cop and a detective are two different things. I thought LC was a detective.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:11 pm**

I advocate for Zone B. Follow me. To victoree.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:11 pm**

Epi. Get real. He had three abilities that were basically limited disco and a vig kill. You are playing semantics.

Linki: Same to you bwt.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:13 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:11 pm Epi. Get real. He had three abilities that were basically limited disco and a vig kill. You are playing semantics.

Linki: Same to you bwt.

Not.

a.

Cop.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:15 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:11 pm Epi. Get real. He had three abilities that were basically limited disco and a vig kill. You are playing semantics.

Linki: Same to you bwt.

Just because one of the aspects of the role is a cop phase does not a cop make.

And yes, we are playing semantics. But isn't that part of what mafia is about?

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:16 pm**

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:16 pm**

LOL fuck

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:17 pm**

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 pm also holy shit the worst role to lose wow great job everybody
We don't know all the roles, so how is that the worst one to lose?

it's a heist... it's one of the few power roles and obviously a very good one... why don't you share my reaction

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:17 pm**

Yes, he has three different power that give him info and one power that produces a kill. I'd wager that probably is the most powerful role the civs have. Stop painting nutella as bad for saying it.

And I'm done discussing this because you both are just baiting right now and I'm done. Especially Epi.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:18 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:17 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 pm also holy shit the worst role to lose wow great job everybody
We don't know all the roles, so how is that the worst one to lose?
it's a heist... it's one of the few power roles and obviously a very good one... why don't you share my reaction

Agreed.

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:19 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:17 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 pm also holy shit the worst role to lose wow great job everybody
We don't know all the roles, so how is that the worst one to lose?
it's a heist... it's one of the few power roles and obviously a very good one... why don't you share my reaction

Because he's not on your team. Who is on your team, MP or Daisy.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:17 pm Yes, he has three different power that give him info and one power that produces a kill. I'd wager that probably is the most powerful role the civs have. Stop painting nutella as bad for saying it.

And I'm done discussing this because you both are just baiting right now and I'm done. Especially Epi.

What's wrong with him baiting?

Posted: **Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:20 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:17 pm Yes, he has three different power that give him info and one power that produces a kill. I'd wager that probably is the most powerful role the civs have. Stop painting nutella as bad for saying it.

And I'm done discussing this because you both are just baiting right now and I'm done. Especially Epi.

I will paint nutella bad for anything I decide to paint her bad for. That is my prerogative and again, the nature of the game. I'm sorry if you don't like it.

No actually, I 'm not.

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