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Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:04 pm
by DharmaHelper
Long Con wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:50 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:13 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:10 pm Town:
Sig
SVS
LC
Nova
Mac
Jay

Meh:
MP
Juliets
Speed
DH
Niju

No impression: anyone I didn't mention
Nutella out here starting the new year eating healthy.
This is a Player Salad accusation. Something you believe in? Or just seeing what sticks?
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:11 pm
sig wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:58 pm I dislike Juliets big post about her votes, seemed very in depth and scummy.

Mac is playing differently then his last few games tone wise which could mean he's mafia or that he's just taking this game more serious. Either way I'd watch him.

Svs seems badish so she's probably good.
Nova has also posted early this game so omma throw a few civ points his way.
Sig jumping on Mac's Juliets ping like a turkey vulture. Tossess in some rando-reads for extra flavor. Mondo Garbo
But what sig was saying about juliets' post is a lot like what you were saying about S~V~S' post. Are you jumping on Elohcin's ping like a turkey vulture?
RE: The highlighted. Yessir that is a "player salaad" accusation. Nutella dumps a big ol list of names with nothing to back 'em up, makes her look like she's hunting when really all she's doing is putting names down.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:06 pm
by DharmaHelper
But what sig was saying about juliets' post is a lot like what you were saying about S~V~S' post. Are you jumping on Elohcin's ping like a turkey vulture?
No.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:12 pm
by Elohcin
nutella wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:59 pm
Elohcin wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:56 pm
juliets wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:25 pm @nutella, I just read through Lunalee again and didn't see anything that alarmed me. What am I missing? I did notice your post again that she's giving off Dominick vibes - what does that mean exactly? (I remember Dom's posts as short and to the point, sometimes abrupt, but that's not what I'm seeing in Luna.)
She doesn't know. She is just trying to stir up shit.
I already answered this is you would read before posting. I don't like your negative attitude toward me. Assume the best of people, not the worst.
This is mafia, not real life.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:13 pm
by nutella
Elohcin wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:02 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:52 pm Anyway never mind about Luna. Who else wants to get DH out of the way quickly since he is likely anti-town. :srsnod:

WTF?! Are you going to just point fingers and wait for others to come up with reasons to vote those you are pointing at.
Not at all the point of my exercise. I wasn't looking for other people's reasons to vote for Luna. I was looking for my own reasons to suspect someone (including potentially Luna) based on their response.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:14 pm
by nutella
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:04 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:50 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:13 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:10 pm Town:
Sig
SVS
LC
Nova
Mac
Jay

Meh:
MP
Juliets
Speed
DH
Niju

No impression: anyone I didn't mention
Nutella out here starting the new year eating healthy.
This is a Player Salad accusation. Something you believe in? Or just seeing what sticks?
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:11 pm
sig wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:58 pm I dislike Juliets big post about her votes, seemed very in depth and scummy.

Mac is playing differently then his last few games tone wise which could mean he's mafia or that he's just taking this game more serious. Either way I'd watch him.

Svs seems badish so she's probably good.
Nova has also posted early this game so omma throw a few civ points his way.
Sig jumping on Mac's Juliets ping like a turkey vulture. Tossess in some rando-reads for extra flavor. Mondo Garbo
But what sig was saying about juliets' post is a lot like what you were saying about S~V~S' post. Are you jumping on Elohcin's ping like a turkey vulture?
RE: The highlighted. Yessir that is a "player salaad" accusation. Nutella dumps a big ol list of names with nothing to back 'em up, makes her look like she's hunting when really all she's doing is putting names down.
Nooope nope nope. A list of town reads on day 1 is not salad and it is a good approach to day 1 in my book.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:15 pm
by colonialbob
Rainbow lists are player salad, who knew

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:16 pm
by colonialbob
Surprised DH finds me weak since I'm out here dunking on people

(y'all still haven't even noticed the best one yet tbh)

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:16 pm
by DharmaHelper
Nooope nope nope. A list of town reads on day 1 is not salad and it is a good approach to day 1 in my book.
Call it whatever you want, my issue with it is the same issue I have with rainbow lists. Its just popcorn junk posting. You're saying nothing, while being able to say "look here, a buncha names I posted in a list in a random order, wow I'm on the hunt."

Garbo.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:20 pm
by juliets
ColinIsCool wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:53 pm
juliets wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:58 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:55 pm juliets is kinda skeezing me out tbh
And why is that Colin?
You look a lot like you did in Asunder, and while in Asunder you also looked a lot like you do as town, that fact doubles the skeeze imo
Ok, I really can't speak to this as that game is still ongoing. I can assure you though I am town in this game.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:21 pm
by nutella
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:16 pm
Nooope nope nope. A list of town reads on day 1 is not salad and it is a good approach to day 1 in my book.
Call it whatever you want, my issue with it is the same issue I have with rainbow lists. Its just popcorn junk posting. You're saying nothing, while being able to say "look here, a buncha names I posted in a list in a random order, wow I'm on the hunt."

Garbo.
Far from random. Those reads meant something concrete to me at the time and they still do. Sorting out my thoughts on early impressions of people is CRUCIAL to this stage of the game and if you don't play that way that's fine but it is helpful for me and I felt the need to put them out there. If you don't find it valuable you are free to ignore it but I do want people to know my townreads.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:22 pm
by DharmaHelper
nutella wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:21 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:16 pm
Nooope nope nope. A list of town reads on day 1 is not salad and it is a good approach to day 1 in my book.
Call it whatever you want, my issue with it is the same issue I have with rainbow lists. Its just popcorn junk posting. You're saying nothing, while being able to say "look here, a buncha names I posted in a list in a random order, wow I'm on the hunt."

Garbo.
Far from random. Those reads meant something concrete to me at the time and they still do. Sorting out my thoughts on early impressions of people is CRUCIAL to this stage of the game and if you don't play that way that's fine but it is helpful for me and I felt the need to put them out there. If you don't find it valuable you are free to ignore it but I do want people to know my townreads.
:shrug:

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:28 pm
by S~V~S
colonialbob wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:29 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:20 pm Also, JaggedJimmyJay any suspects or thoughts besides Bob?

It's a while since i have played with you; I don't recall you doing the self imposed posting thing before. Is this something you do often now? Also Sloonei, no throwing and seeing what sticks this game? You seem different to World Asunder, and previous games, as well. But except for Asunder, I could be out of date as to your game.

Linki DharmaHelper , you can do as you like. I just wanted to point out that you look like a vote searching for a reason, that's all. I just want that thought out there in the universe, that's all.

Lots of good discussion today, yay. Be home in about 2 hours ready to get caught up further than my mentions and the last page of posts.
I would be very surprised if JJJ's posts here bore much resemblance to his posts in World Asunder.
That was aimed at Sloonei, lol :p

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:29 pm
by nutella
Lol poor Bob thought that was the coolest thing he's said all game not realizing he had misread. How embarrassing. :P

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:30 pm
by S~V~S
Elohcin wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:55 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:42 pm Thoughts on Luna from everyone. Go.
**DH quotes SVS and makes an evaluation.**
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:07 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:06 pm I didn't ask about SVS.
Yeah I'm not on your clock though am I. I'll comment on Luna when I get to Luna in my readthrough. :nicenod:
This kind of shit (nutella's attitude like she is runnin' the show and we all need to follow suit) bugs the shit out of me. This kind of attitude screams baddie. It's fake confidence. It's fear wrapped up in a pretty, little, intimidating bow. I'll shut that shit down if I can. No Neegans this game.
Wow.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:31 pm
by colonialbob
nutella wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:29 pm Lol poor Bob thought that was the coolest thing he's said all game not realizing he had misread. How embarrassing. :P
Dunked on myself

RIP cbob

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:35 pm
by colonialbob
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Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:37 pm
by S~V~S
[mention]DharmaHelper[/mention] I read your summary post, fair enough. It really did look like that to me, though.

linki, :haha: good one

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:38 pm
by juliets
nijuukyugou wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:48 pm
juliets wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:41 am So I looked at c-bobs posts because of Jay's letter and what Jay says is true but there are another 5 or so people who haven't said much either. Jay this may not fit into your letter writing but is there a reason you picked c-bob as opposed to say Turnip Head or blooper or nova or Quin to name a few? They've made comments but not said much.

I'm having a hard time with suspects, there are a couple of people I'm leaning civ on but then I have a whole lot of meh. I hope we have some good participation today.
I’m not a fan of this post - you claim to have a hard time with suspects, yet you throw out three names “to name a few” to JJJ? And the last paragraph is not adding anything. Who are you leaning civ on? What hard time are you having, besides regular Day 1 difficulties, if anything? Who is meh? What does meh mean to you, maaaaaan?
I wasn't throwing out suspects, I was naming people who hadn't said a whole lot. I was asking Jay why HE did not see them as suspect based on his reasoning for c-bob.

In the last paragraph I am just saying I'm having a hard time with suspects. As I said before I'm not a good Day 1 player. I don't think I've ever caught a baddie on Day 1. There are baddies out there but I'm not seeing whatever nuances there are that make them bad.

I'm leaning good on nutella and S~V~S and Mac. A whole lot of meh means a whole lot of "could go either way". For example, Quin's posts seem consistent with his civ posting but he's not posted very much. Is he hiding or was he just busy yesterday? JJJ's posting gambit I found clever and his content seems ok but I'm starting to wonder if he's hiding behind a persona. That's what I mean by meh - could be bad, could be good. Nutella used the same word in a post (and I think it means something different to her) but I notice you did not say anything about it, much less make such a big deal over it as you did here. Why do you suppose that is?

linki

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:54 pm
by reywaS
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:15 pm Nutella's only suspicious of me because she's buddying reywas.

:haha:

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:57 pm
by juliets
S~V~S wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:20 pm Also, @JaggedJimmyJay any suspects or thoughts besides Bob?

It's a while since i have played with you; I don't recall you doing the self imposed posting thing before. Is this something you do often now? Also Sloonei, no throwing and seeing what sticks this game? You seem different to World Asunder, and previous games, as well. But except for Asunder, I could be out of date as to your game.

Linki @DharmaHelper , you can do as you like. I just wanted to point out that you look like a vote searching for a reason, that's all. I just want that thought out there in the universe, that's all.

Lots of good discussion today, yay. Be home in about 2 hours ready to get caught up further than my mentions and the last page of posts.
Re: underlined above. I had the same thought about Sloonei and I think I know why he seems different but I'd rather he speak to this before I give an opinion.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Prologue]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:04 pm
by speedchuck
nutella wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:31 am
speedchuck wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:03 pm Sig going for that "I went after the top dawgs so I'm town" cred.
Speed going for that "let's mislynch sig again lolol" cred.
Hazelnut going for that "defend the easy lynch target cred...
maybe idk

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:05 pm
by sprityo
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:34 pm
sprityo wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:19 pm Alright looking back, it seems my other post didn’t go through so I’m only half wrong

My point still stands

I hate that shit
Sprityo out here hoping the next items Epi hands out include an inhaler and a bottle of scotch.
The latter preferably

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:07 pm
by speedchuck
I just got eviscerated so I can't do much today Someone tell me where to vote

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:12 pm
by sprityo
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:01 pm Sprityo
I’m like a poorly made bench, unsupported and I make noises anytime I’m stressed

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Prologue]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:13 pm
by nutella
speedchuck wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:04 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:31 am
speedchuck wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:03 pm Sig going for that "I went after the top dawgs so I'm town" cred.
Speed going for that "let's mislynch sig again lolol" cred.
Hazelnut going for that "defend the easy lynch target cred...
maybe idk
Sup DrWilgy why are you logged in as speedchuck

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:35 pm
by Turnip Head
speedchuck wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:07 pm I just got eviscerated so I can't do much today Someone tell me where to vote
LIKE!!!

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:37 pm
by Turnip Head
reywaS wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:54 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:15 pm Nutella's only suspicious of me because she's buddying reywas.

:haha:
Well well well look who it

:faint:

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:40 pm
by speedchuck
Turnip Head wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:35 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:07 pm I just got eviscerated so I can't do much today Someone tell me where to vote
LIKE!!!
Wtf

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:00 pm
by S~V~S
Of the people with votes, I am not sure what Jay sees in Bob, not seeing it myself.

(reywaS vote for DH :haha: )

Juliets reaction to all of this is intriguing me more than the original thing I saw with her. There is an undercurrent of "annoyed" in some of her responses. Not sure if that makes her look better to me or not. Her reaction to Ninja, especially.

nutella, not sure why she has a vote, she is engaging, questioning, leading discussion. Also I don't think "player salad" is always bad, sometimes you make a post that mentions alot of players and your opinions of them :grin: I prefer that to people who pad their post count. I don't love Rainbow lists but mainly because I don't like naming who I trust in that way. I have seen both bad and town people make them.

sig, who can read him, not me. This seems pretty standard sig to me so far.

Sloonei and TH, I assume are taking votes becasue of quietness? Day one is too early to vote on that, IMO. Not impressed by these votes. Colin implies his is a temp vote, so maybe he will change it. Sloonei I hope to see/hear more from about his vote, but it's day one on a holiday week. BOTD for quietness.

Gonna reread some people. Did Luna get that discussion she was looking for?

I got a bit derailed by the extreme reaction to my post about sprits joke, not gonna lie. And not just from sprit. I am going to step back from that and think about it some more. I may have gotten derailed but it is early enough to get back on track.

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] what is there to like about that post? I am confuzzled.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:21 pm
by juliets
S~V~S wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:00 pm
Juliets reaction to all of this is intriguing me more than the original thing I saw with her. There is an undercurrent of "annoyed" in some of her responses. Not sure if that makes her look better to me or not. Her reaction to Ninja, especially.
To me, nijuu had an overreaction to one of my normal posts. I felt like she was looking for reasons to jump on me, especially with her comments about my "meh". If it bothered her so much why didn't she jump on nutella when she said it? I feel like she is just looking for a reason to vote me and though I haven't felt attacked by anyone else who voiced suspicion of me I felt attacked by her - it was all in the tone. So yes, I was annoyed.

I haven't been annoyed at any other time though so if you see something else where I seemed annoyed let me know.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:27 pm
by juliets
S~V~S wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:00 pm
nutella, not sure why she has a vote, she is engaging, questioning, leading discussion. Also I don't think "player salad" is always bad, sometimes you make a post that mentions alot of players and your opinions of them :grin: I prefer that to people who pad their post count. I don't love Rainbow lists but mainly because I don't like naming who I trust in that way. I have seen both bad and town people make them.
Also, I agree with this assessment of nutella. I think what made people call her post player salad is she did not list reasoning for her reads (at least that's what I learned about player salad in the last game I played). However, rainbow lists and lists of people from good to bad have always been looked at positively in our environment (except by a few) so I don't really get the issue with her list.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:33 pm
by Enrique
rainbowing at the start of the game is weird imo

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:34 pm
by DharmaHelper
juliets wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:27 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:00 pm
nutella, not sure why she has a vote, she is engaging, questioning, leading discussion. Also I don't think "player salad" is always bad, sometimes you make a post that mentions alot of players and your opinions of them :grin: I prefer that to people who pad their post count. I don't love Rainbow lists but mainly because I don't like naming who I trust in that way. I have seen both bad and town people make them.
Also, I agree with this assessment of nutella. I think what made people call her post player salad is she did not list reasoning for her reads (at least that's what I learned about player salad in the last game I played). However, rainbow lists and lists of people from good to bad have always been looked at positively in our environment (except by a few) so I don't really get the issue with her list.
But it wasn't even a rainbow list it was literally just a list.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:35 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Letters from the front, Phase 1D, Forward Base Delta, Intra-squadron correspondence #1

Lieutenant Colonel Porter,

First, I would like to thank you again for entrusting me with oversight of this important operation; it is an honor and a responsibility I will consider to be my top priority. I have begun the process of carrying out your orders on-station. It seems I am not alone here either, as numerous others have been behaving in such a manner that suggests they're carrying out similar orders, or at least attempting to look like they are. I am sure this is what you anticipated: other officers must have designated their own operatives. If there truly are enemy spies among our company, then it is imperative that they be discovered immediately. The course of the war depends upon it. Still, I haven't revealed the details of your mission to anyone; I have written to family and provided only the most rudimentary concepts of what I am doing here. A couple of others have questioned on some level my own behavior; I hope they can understand my decision to engage the threat the way that I have, for my own pleasure, for a waning interest in the heated combat of discourse, and most importantly for the demands of other duties in my current life.

I have prepared an initial dossier with my reports on each member of the company per their code names. Please review them as follows:

ColinIsCool - To me he seems willing to engage the company in whatever manner first comes to mind, and that sort of comfort in one's own skin is a good thing. Some examples are his positive [gut] read on Lunalee when nutella prodded everyone, and what I think looks like authentic skeezing in juliets's direction. I have too few notes available for him so far to say much else. The early returns are okay.

colonialbob - His initial introduction into the fold reminded me of Steve Buscemi, and that irks me some. I wrote about this in a letter to my mother, which he seems to have read. He made a joke in response, per the norm he had previously established. He hasn't been the only joker around here, but I did expect a little more from him specifically. To be fair, he cites a video game as a reason why and I can give him a break on that front. I am only barely recovering from the ice cold grasp of Divinity: Original Sin 2. Somehow I doubt you know what that is, Col. Porter.

DharmaHelper - I'm inclined to judge him relative to his performance in previous missions. In Operations Outpost 31 and Hogwarts, he preferred a sort of domineering approach to my memory. In neither case was he aligned with the mission of our countrymen. In Operation DFS he couldn't be bothered to do as much, though he was ever a part of the dialogue (in this case he was on the right side of history). In that regard I wouldn't call him "domineering" to this point in the current mission, which would be a positive indicator given this framework.

Elohcin - She has quite recently voiced a loud suspicion of nutella, and I think it looks like something really happening in her real mind. I think she looks the part so far, the part of a dedicated servant to our country's cause.

Enrique - He hasn't said anything of consequence. He has cited other duties as the reason and pledged to make future appearances. For the moment I have no reason to trust him.

juliets - She has been pinging other troops to some extent, and I don't really agree with the sentiment. I believe that she is more vulnerable to such a thing emerging from her prior operation, but overall she looks to me the way she always looks. She is ever inscrutable. I appreciate her inquisitive nature at least and would suggest that she be given the space to operate her own way for the time being. I do not think she would be an ideal choice for removal from the company under present conditions.

Long Con - There's a pointedness about his behavior which appeals to me. He doesn't seem concerned with prevailing sway or momentum, as visible in his counterarguments [of sorts] to suspicions of Luna, S~V~S. It's not contrarianism either, because he agreed with my concerns about ninja's introduction. So I think the direction here is diverse and dispersed in such a manner that looks like it comes from an authentic mindset.

Lunalee - I am not a fan of a certain comment she made about the need for finger pointing and discussions, given that something I hear in her comments overall is a sort of third-person exterior review of dialogue content (not direct finger-pointing). This is not my favorite thing.

M Plus 7 - He has been too busy with other duties to get started here. I understand that, though the lack of anything resembling a stance on anything from him is still troublesome to me. Even in his busiest efforts he tends to find something to say, even if briefly or in passing. I have no reason to trust him.

MacDougall - He seems to think things are garbage. He has long-since established a record for hurling opinions into a game without support, and I don't think that's a bad thing for him to do. Nor do I think it's a good reason to trust him. I wouldn't remove him first, because if he is dishonest he'll screw himself over later given the opportunity.

nijuukyugou - She has made one relevant comment, and it isn't inspiring to me. juliets asked me a question that I thought was fair within which she suggested ninja wasn't doing much (among others regarding my suspicion of colonialbob). ninja's objection isn't centered on her own mention, but it's an undertone I sense.

novaselinenever - His only noteworthy action has been to give sig grief (and a vote) for sig's support of nova himself. I don't have any immediate feelings on this.

nutella - I don't have any significant concerns with her to this point. She has been engaged with a unique intensity that she has made her signature in recent operations and seems unconcerned with the consequences. She has proven an adeptness for masking this behavior over sinister intentions before; in the absence of more meaningful evidence I don't care.

Quin - I have nothing to report. He has said nearly nothing himself. I have no reason to trust him.

S~V~S - The density of her commentary in terms of its mission-relevance is among the highest in the operation so far. That's a nice thing for her. I think her specific contributions look fine.

sig - He started hot and has stayed on-point for the most part. If there is a concern with sig, it'd be that the only time he ever seems trustworthy to any decent number of people, it's when he is dishonest. I am not entirely serious here, Colonel. I wouldn't remove him first.

Simon - I have nothing to report. He has said nearly nothing himself. I have no reason to trust him.

Sloonei - There is little to say about him, which in a vacuum may itself be cause for alarm. He has made one conclusive accusation and it isn't one that makes me believe in his desire to engage the operation.

speedchuck - He has been ill to my knowledge, so I will give him a break. Even still I appreciate to some extent a few little prods he has made to sig and nutella for being both relevant and jovial such that his comfort level as an operative is apparent. It isn't much; it's something.

sprityo - He was quite irritated when S~V~S asked him a question, to such an extent that I have to question whether such emotion is likely to be generated organically from the incident in question. It bugs me. Otherwise he hasn't said anything of consequence.

Turnip Head - I have nothing to report. He has said nearly nothing himself. I have no reason to trust him.

End dossier.

If you or any of your other operatives have questions or concerns about the information contained within this dossier, please inform me. I should be able to write one or two more letters before the current mission phase terminates.

Respectfully,

Staff Sergeant Jay Wimsatt
Codename JaggedJimmyJay
Delta Forward Base, Operation Company 48mx

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:37 pm
by Quin
nutella wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:57 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:53 pm
juliets wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:58 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:55 pm juliets is kinda skeezing me out tbh
And why is that Colin?
You look a lot like you did in Asunder, and while in Asunder you also looked a lot like you do as town, that fact doubles the skeeze imo
+1
how are u even agreeing with a post that literally says 'you look town so you're probably bad'

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:39 pm
by reywaS
Turnip Head wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:37 pm
reywaS wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:54 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:15 pm Nutella's only suspicious of me because she's buddying reywas.

:haha:
Well well well look who it

:faint:
:omg:

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:41 pm
by Quin
juliets wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:38 pm
nijuukyugou wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:48 pm
juliets wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:41 am So I looked at c-bobs posts because of Jay's letter and what Jay says is true but there are another 5 or so people who haven't said much either. Jay this may not fit into your letter writing but is there a reason you picked c-bob as opposed to say Turnip Head or blooper or nova or Quin to name a few? They've made comments but not said much.

I'm having a hard time with suspects, there are a couple of people I'm leaning civ on but then I have a whole lot of meh. I hope we have some good participation today.
I’m not a fan of this post - you claim to have a hard time with suspects, yet you throw out three names “to name a few” to JJJ? And the last paragraph is not adding anything. Who are you leaning civ on? What hard time are you having, besides regular Day 1 difficulties, if anything? Who is meh? What does meh mean to you, maaaaaan?
I wasn't throwing out suspects, I was naming people who hadn't said a whole lot. I was asking Jay why HE did not see them as suspect based on his reasoning for c-bob.

In the last paragraph I am just saying I'm having a hard time with suspects. As I said before I'm not a good Day 1 player. I don't think I've ever caught a baddie on Day 1. There are baddies out there but I'm not seeing whatever nuances there are that make them bad.

I'm leaning good on nutella and S~V~S and Mac. A whole lot of meh means a whole lot of "could go either way". For example, Quin's posts seem consistent with his civ posting but he's not posted very much. Is he hiding or was he just busy yesterday? JJJ's posting gambit I found clever and his content seems ok but I'm starting to wonder if he's hiding behind a persona. That's what I mean by meh - could be bad, could be good. Nutella used the same word in a post (and I think it means something different to her) but I notice you did not say anything about it, much less make such a big deal over it as you did here. Why do you suppose that is?

linki
i mean i am kind of busy but in full transparency i was in bed all day playing Ys VIII on my Switch

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:42 pm
by S~V~S
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:34 pm
juliets wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:27 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:00 pm
nutella, not sure why she has a vote, she is engaging, questioning, leading discussion. Also I don't think "player salad" is always bad, sometimes you make a post that mentions alot of players and your opinions of them :grin: I prefer that to people who pad their post count. I don't love Rainbow lists but mainly because I don't like naming who I trust in that way. I have seen both bad and town people make them.
Also, I agree with this assessment of nutella. I think what made people call her post player salad is she did not list reasoning for her reads (at least that's what I learned about player salad in the last game I played). However, rainbow lists and lists of people from good to bad have always been looked at positively in our environment (except by a few) so I don't really get the issue with her list.
But it wasn't even a rainbow list it was literally just a list.
I just mentioned rainbows as a comparison. A list is a list.

I don't think it was player salad or any other jargony gimmick. It was one post out of what is arguably the player with the best content s posts. Molehill, meet mountain.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:47 pm
by nutella
Enrique wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:33 pm rainbowing at the start of the game is weird imo
It wasn't a rainbow either. It was a list of town reads and sketchier reads out of the people I had noticed at all so far. Pretty normal thing for day 1 in my experience.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:48 pm
by DharmaHelper
At any rate I'm reading it as of now as a case of different strokes for different folks.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:50 pm
by nutella
Quin wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:37 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:57 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:53 pm
juliets wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:58 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:55 pm juliets is kinda skeezing me out tbh
And why is that Colin?
You look a lot like you did in Asunder, and while in Asunder you also looked a lot like you do as town, that fact doubles the skeeze imo
+1
how are u even agreeing with a post that literally says 'you look town so you're probably bad'
I'm agreeing with the point that she looks similar to how she looked as a baddie, and I assume the other part is more like saying she looks townish even when bad so can be hard to read/can easily hide behind a townish style.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:51 pm
by juliets
Quin wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:41 pm
juliets wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:38 pm
nijuukyugou wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:48 pm
juliets wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:41 am So I looked at c-bobs posts because of Jay's letter and what Jay says is true but there are another 5 or so people who haven't said much either. Jay this may not fit into your letter writing but is there a reason you picked c-bob as opposed to say Turnip Head or blooper or nova or Quin to name a few? They've made comments but not said much.

I'm having a hard time with suspects, there are a couple of people I'm leaning civ on but then I have a whole lot of meh. I hope we have some good participation today.
I’m not a fan of this post - you claim to have a hard time with suspects, yet you throw out three names “to name a few” to JJJ? And the last paragraph is not adding anything. Who are you leaning civ on? What hard time are you having, besides regular Day 1 difficulties, if anything? Who is meh? What does meh mean to you, maaaaaan?
I wasn't throwing out suspects, I was naming people who hadn't said a whole lot. I was asking Jay why HE did not see them as suspect based on his reasoning for c-bob.

In the last paragraph I am just saying I'm having a hard time with suspects. As I said before I'm not a good Day 1 player. I don't think I've ever caught a baddie on Day 1. There are baddies out there but I'm not seeing whatever nuances there are that make them bad.

I'm leaning good on nutella and S~V~S and Mac. A whole lot of meh means a whole lot of "could go either way". For example, Quin's posts seem consistent with his civ posting but he's not posted very much. Is he hiding or was he just busy yesterday? JJJ's posting gambit I found clever and his content seems ok but I'm starting to wonder if he's hiding behind a persona. That's what I mean by meh - could be bad, could be good. Nutella used the same word in a post (and I think it means something different to her) but I notice you did not say anything about it, much less make such a big deal over it as you did here. Why do you suppose that is?

linki
i mean i am kind of busy but in full transparency i was in bed all day playing Ys VIII on my Switch
Ahhhh, I should have guessed it was a game.

linki: on the list, yes DH I agree its a different strokes for different folks

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:58 pm
by S~V~S
For now I am voting Luna. She made an impassioned plea for relevant discussion ... Then she picked up a few balls other people dropped, juggled them around half heartedly, and produced no balls of her own.

Will be back to double check before bed but that's where I am at now.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:11 pm
by nutella
Yeah Luna show us your balls. XD

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:42 pm
by speedchuck
nutella wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:11 pm Yeah Luna show us your balls. XD
I refuse to be exhibitioned

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:44 pm
by speedchuck
I was gonna vote sloonei because he voted th and that ain't cool, but Colin has it covered

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:10 pm
by reywaS
S~V~S wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:00 pm Of the people with votes, I am not sure what Jay sees in Bob, not seeing it myself.

(reywaS vote for DH :haha: )

Juliets reaction to all of this is intriguing me more than the original thing I saw with her. There is an undercurrent of "annoyed" in some of her responses. Not sure if that makes her look better to me or not. Her reaction to Ninja, especially.

nutella, not sure why she has a vote, she is engaging, questioning, leading discussion. Also I don't think "player salad" is always bad, sometimes you make a post that mentions alot of players and your opinions of them :grin: I prefer that to people who pad their post count. I don't love Rainbow lists but mainly because I don't like naming who I trust in that way. I have seen both bad and town people make them.

sig, who can read him, not me. This seems pretty standard sig to me so far.

Sloonei and TH, I assume are taking votes becasue of quietness? Day one is too early to vote on that, IMO. Not impressed by these votes. Colin implies his is a temp vote, so maybe he will change it. Sloonei I hope to see/hear more from about his vote, but it's day one on a holiday week. BOTD for quietness.

Gonna reread some people. Did Luna get that discussion she was looking for?

I got a bit derailed by the extreme reaction to my post about sprits joke, not gonna lie. And not just from sprit. I am going to step back from that and think about it some more. I may have gotten derailed but it is early enough to get back on track.

@Turnip Head what is there to like about that post? I am confuzzled.
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Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:34 pm
by MacDougall
So 2.5 hrs til lynch and we are probs gonna be in for a fairly MUTHAFUCK of a time amirite

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:35 pm
by MacDougall
DharmaHelper wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:16 pm
Nooope nope nope. A list of town reads on day 1 is not salad and it is a good approach to day 1 in my book.
Call it whatever you want, my issue with it is the same issue I have with rainbow lists. Its just popcorn junk posting. You're saying nothing, while being able to say "look here, a buncha names I posted in a list in a random order, wow I'm on the hunt."

Garbo.
Nobody reads posts unless they are in Buzzfeed listicle form. People who care about getting their opinions across make lists and cliffs posts. So shut up.

Re: The Game of Champions 2018 [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:38 pm
by MacDougall
Enrique wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:33 pm rainbowing at the start of the game is weird imo
Why are people so annoyed about other players boldly declaring their opinions. It's great. Do it more. Wishy washy lolkek bullshit for the first million days is the drizzling shits.