Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:45 pm
DKDK?Duskfall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:45 pmIf you can tell me why i think it is scummy it would no longer be scummy
DKDK?Duskfall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:45 pmIf you can tell me why i think it is scummy it would no longer be scummy
Because I said except instead of expect?
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 96#p613658dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:14 pmit's not really a shrug off though. he said "there's no reason to town read her" - it's a valid excuse. how i play mafia is finding town motive and voice in posts, and if i can't do that with someone then they become suspects. saying someone has don't nothing to earn a town-cred is a valid reason to suspect them imo.![]()
speaking of EOD - there's no actual time stamp on the vote sheet, yikes. what time EST does day end @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME might be worth telling @boo as well since we have a site update in a few hours.
Hoxy is it because I forgot to but "~" in my post~?JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:48 pmBecause I said except instead of expect?
Because I asked 2 people are they town?
Because I jumped to macdougall?
lol hmmJiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:56 pmHoxy is it because I forgot to but "~" in my post~?JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:48 pmBecause I said except instead of expect?
Because I asked 2 people are they town?
Because I jumped to macdougall?
I have some extremely nebulous okay feelings about them but nothing too strong which is concerning, especially for mac I feel like I can usually find him as town pretty quickly. I know he's also been stretched pretty thin with other games/commitments tbf. Idk neither of them are out of the woods
Well I'm currently voting for Jack but that's from before most of his posts and I'm honestly not really sure how to feel about him. I think he's *probably* not w/w with leetic??
It's because she's kind of tiptoeynutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:54 pm I agree with dusk that jiwon's multiquote post felt off somehow but I can't really pinpoint why. Might just be that she overall sounds different than she did in FTL, but that may just be that she's more comfortable on the site/with some of the overlapping players at least. Idk
Yeah
Two for one ain't a bad deal.
Why do you want to do that?
The day is ending and you are not even close to post restrictionJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:18 pmWhy do you want to do that?
(While I’m posting I just wanna day that I hate post count restrictions. I like quoting a single post and talking about it. I like telling jokes. Not being able to do these things freely cramps my style and affects my tone. It’s also much easier to break a “no more than x posts” rule than any other rule. I suggest dropping post restrictions an hour before eod to prevent game effecting overposting if that isn’t already a thing.)
That is true. leetic has been under pressure since the very start, and the (true) cop claim came earlier... how much earlier was it? This seems a bit different, just "fine, but I'm taking DS with me". That could be an ability of either alignment, whereas a cop claim is a town claim.
What am I supposed to say to this? If DS is town, losing two townies would be terrible for balance, especially if there are more than two scum. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
why would leetic tag that on when talking to their lover? it's a slight shade on their character. their entire back and forth could have gone very differently and the whole day phase if leetic had instead claimed when the others did.leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:03 amFirst of all, there's no way that absolutely no information can be said about partners. Many people have commented on me, there should at least be a few people who can eliminate as options. Furthermore, you can just as easily say "This early in the game there's no way to have accurate reads yet (to any degree of confidence)" but that doesn't mean that posting reads isn't helpful. This post reads as noncooperative to me.DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 amThat's not at all what I'm saying actuallyleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:56 amSo are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am 87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players
7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you
I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.
I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yet
How do you think epi plays?Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:16 pmTwo for one ain't a bad deal.
Just got caught up, and I see the lynch ends at 3. Dunya, I know my ISO isn't that meaty. I don't usually get more heavily involved in a game until a lynch or two has gone by.
I don't suspect Epignosis, this looks fine for him. I do think that Duskfall's analysis of Epi could be TMI-related, because I don't think he knows how Epi plays.
I missed this post. That implies that they're both town then, so it is as "I'm town " as a cop claim.
yeah, I'm not finding this particularly believable.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:20 pmwhy would leetic tag that on when talking to their lover? it's a slight shade on their character. their entire back and forth could have gone very differently and the whole day phase if leetic had instead claimed when the others did.leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:03 amFirst of all, there's no way that absolutely no information can be said about partners. Many people have commented on me, there should at least be a few people who can eliminate as options. Furthermore, you can just as easily say "This early in the game there's no way to have accurate reads yet (to any degree of confidence)" but that doesn't mean that posting reads isn't helpful. This post reads as noncooperative to me.DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 amThat's not at all what I'm saying actuallyleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:56 amSo are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am 87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players
7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you
I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.
I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yet
i'm not really swayed by this. i think leetic's partner told them to give it a shot.
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:03 amFirst of all, there's no way that absolutely no information can be said about partners. Many people have commented on me, there should at least be a few people who can eliminate as options. Furthermore, you can just as easily say "This early in the game there's no way to have accurate reads yet (to any degree of confidence)" but that doesn't mean that posting reads isn't helpful. This post reads as noncooperative to me.DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 amThat's not at all what I'm saying actuallyleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:56 amSo are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am 87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players
7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you
I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.
I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yet
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:11 am*sigh* When I ask that question, I don't mean "tell me who you 100% know for absolute certain is my partner". I'm saying "tell me who you think could be my partner". I guess someone's being a bit too literal minded here.DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely
But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner
That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information
These are leetic's interactions with DS.leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:14 amIt's not my fault that nobody has really talked about anything besides me at this point. Hell, when I asked Epi, he refused, and my most recent attempt at getting people to discuss people other than me has failed as well. What would you do if you were in my position?DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:12 am I'm not trying to talk down to you btw I don't want it to come off that way
I think your energy is just better off pushing/prodding at things not involving your own wagon at this point because we literally don't have enough information to garner anything off of it at this point
And?JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:18 pmThe day is ending and you are not even close to post restrictionJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:18 pmWhy do you want to do that?
(While I’m posting I just wanna day that I hate post count restrictions. I like quoting a single post and talking about it. I like telling jokes. Not being able to do these things freely cramps my style and affects my tone. It’s also much easier to break a “no more than x posts” rule than any other rule. I suggest dropping post restrictions an hour before eod to prevent game effecting overposting if that isn’t already a thing.)![]()
I think lovers can be different alignments. That said I think DS is town, but even if the claim is true I don't believe it clears leetic lol
Differently than most other players I have ever seen. Belligerent, condescending, with an unwavering resolve that his methods and conclusions are true, even sometimes in the face of logical proof otherwise.Duskfall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:20 pmHow do you think epi plays?Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:16 pmTwo for one ain't a bad deal.
Just got caught up, and I see the lynch ends at 3. Dunya, I know my ISO isn't that meaty. I don't usually get more heavily involved in a game until a lynch or two has gone by.
I don't suspect Epignosis, this looks fine for him. I do think that Duskfall's analysis of Epi could be TMI-related, because I don't think he knows how Epi plays.
None of these posts imply he is scum, I was just defending myself/asking for clarification. Like just because I shade someone, does that mean I want them to die No because it is just how I scumhunt.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:21 pmleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:03 amFirst of all, there's no way that absolutely no information can be said about partners. Many people have commented on me, there should at least be a few people who can eliminate as options. Furthermore, you can just as easily say "This early in the game there's no way to have accurate reads yet (to any degree of confidence)" but that doesn't mean that posting reads isn't helpful. This post reads as noncooperative to me.DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 amThat's not at all what I'm saying actuallyleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:56 amSo are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am 87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players
7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you
I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.
I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yetleetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:11 am*sigh* When I ask that question, I don't mean "tell me who you 100% know for absolute certain is my partner". I'm saying "tell me who you think could be my partner". I guess someone's being a bit too literal minded here.DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely
But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner
That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough informationThese are leetic's interactions with DS.leetic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:14 amIt's not my fault that nobody has really talked about anything besides me at this point. Hell, when I asked Epi, he refused, and my most recent attempt at getting people to discuss people other than me has failed as well. What would you do if you were in my position?DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:12 am I'm not trying to talk down to you btw I don't want it to come off that way
I think your energy is just better off pushing/prodding at things not involving your own wagon at this point because we literally don't have enough information to garner anything off of it at this point
I don't see any indication here that leetic would want DS. to survive Day 1.
I'd really like to hear what [mention]DS.[/mention] has to say about it.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:22 pmI think lovers can be different alignments. That said I think DS is town, but even if the claim is true I don't believe it clears leetic lol
I'm too flames tbhLong Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:23 pmDifferently than most other players I have ever seen. Belligerent, condescending, with an unwavering resolve that his methods and conclusions are true, even sometimes in the face of logical proof otherwise.Duskfall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:20 pmHow do you think epi plays?Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:16 pmTwo for one ain't a bad deal.
Just got caught up, and I see the lynch ends at 3. Dunya, I know my ISO isn't that meaty. I don't usually get more heavily involved in a game until a lynch or two has gone by.
I don't suspect Epignosis, this looks fine for him. I do think that Duskfall's analysis of Epi could be TMI-related, because I don't think he knows how Epi plays.