The Syndicate

I see leetic lurking.
Making me believe he was gonna replace Sig.
Aw man, he seems like a guy that can also make himself ObvTown like Paopan.

Now I feel bad
Should have just let CRichard go through.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:07 am You know what?

Maybe Gavial is right.

Maybe Mac is indeed mafia.

Mac doesn't make these types of reads as town.

Careful.
Mac might just make you his new addition on the scum list.

Hot take: Gav and Mac are probably not the exact team.

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:15 am Hot take: Gav and Mac are probably not the exact team.

Not... that hot.

I just realized. My alignment starts with M

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:29 am

What’s that for?

My alignment too starts with an M.

yeah but like why announce that lol

Gavial what exactly would I need to have done in this game to be town in your eyes?

a) Omgussed you?
b) Voted the 0 voting player over someone I sus?
c) Some other mystery I'm not cognizant of?

Because from where I sit you are scumreading me for literally everything, and were before I even posted.

I am not the one that pushed the game into the state that resulted in a 0 posting town dying d1.

You and two others did that.

Do you believe all three of you would be town doing that? If so, why? If not, which of the other two am I mafia with?

What do you think mafia would have been doing during a day in which a town you was belligerently pushing a baseless scumread on town me from the minute the game began that ended on a 0 poster?

From your perspective logic should show you that if I am mafia it would need to be with someone? Whom?

Once you come up with an answer try to explain my play and my partners play from the mafia perspective.

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:27 am I just realized. My alignment starts with M

It is clear already that the town alignment is what it is via the flip. Attempting to angleshoot yourself town in an Alison game is quite the risky proposition.

I tried to push Wilgy. I am town. If Wilgy was town the mafia would be voting with me and flipping my incorrect push. So Crich and Wilgy are hard different. I find it hard to believe zero town would vote with me. It is just likely CRich is town.

Lime Coke did not vote at all and has been quite opposed to Gavial's pushes on me during the day but didn't contribute to the ultimate chop. That's suspicious. Inb4 omg Mac is now omgussing LC. LC is probably not with Gavial.

If Crich is the mafia he is not with Gavial, nor Miss Carousel, nor Wilgy.

If Wilgy is mafia it is almost a given that his partner voted to save him.

This game is probably unwinnable if Gavial is town. The mafia will just kill outside the two of us and let him keep doing dumb shit.

So I am not allowing day 2 to pass without flipping Gavial regardless of what I believe his alignment to be. If I fail let it lead to my own flip so that I may escape this madness.

Also I would like Gavial to at least attempt to make solves that involve not me.

tl;dr Gavial + Wilgy to die. If both are town we deserve to lose.

Well my thing with you was I was trying to see if you would OMGUS me, and I was assuming you wouldn't to make Gavial shut up, but you decided to shade me anyways which screwed that up.

Pretty sure you're still town but yeah.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:25 am I tried to push Wilgy. I am town. If Wilgy was town the mafia would be voting with me and flipping my incorrect push. So Crich and Wilgy are hard different. I find it hard to believe zero town would vote with me. It is just likely CRich is town.

Lime Coke did not vote at all and has been quite opposed to Gavial's pushes on me during the day but didn't contribute to the ultimate chop. That's suspicious. Inb4 omg Mac is now omgussing LC. LC is probably not with Gavial.

If Crich is the mafia he is not with Gavial, nor Miss Carousel, nor Wilgy.

If Wilgy is mafia it is almost a given that his partner voted to save him.

This game is probably unwinnable if Gavial is town. The mafia will just kill outside the two of us and let him keep doing dumb shit.

So I am not allowing day 2 to pass without flipping Gavial regardless of what I believe his alignment to be. If I fail let it lead to my own flip so that I may escape this madness.

this is kinda dramatic lol. I feel it though. I follow the logic and it gives me town read on you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:20 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:27 am I just realized. My alignment starts with M

It is clear already that the town alignment is what it is via the flip. Attempting to angleshoot yourself town in an Alison game is quite the risky proposition.

Hih. I'll withdraw the scam.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:27 am tl;dr Gavial + Wilgy to die. If both are town we deserve to lose.

That's a bold statement you have there, ma'tey.

Mmm. Let's think outside the box for a while and assume a Porsha, MC, and MightyQ scum.

2 mafia not 3... you trying to derp clear yourself here?

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:25 am I tried to push Wilgy. I am town. If Wilgy was town the mafia would be voting with me and flipping my incorrect push. So Crich and Wilgy are hard different. I find it hard to believe zero town would vote with me. It is just likely CRich is town.

Lime Coke did not vote at all and has been quite opposed to Gavial's pushes on me during the day but didn't contribute to the ultimate chop. That's suspicious. Inb4 omg Mac is now omgussing LC. LC is probably not with Gavial.

If Crich is the mafia he is not with Gavial, nor Miss Carousel, nor Wilgy.

If Wilgy is mafia it is almost a given that his partner voted to save him.

This game is probably unwinnable if Gavial is town. The mafia will just kill outside the two of us and let him keep doing dumb shit.

So I am not allowing day 2 to pass without flipping Gavial regardless of what I believe his alignment to be. If I fail let it lead to my own flip so that I may escape this madness.

this is kinda dramatic lol. I feel it though. I follow the logic and it gives me town read on you

you try being on the receiving end of what gavial is doing

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:34 am Pretty sure you're still town but yeah.

alright why didn't you vote?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:10 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:34 am Pretty sure you're still town but yeah.

alright why didn't you vote?

Because I thought EOD was 10 PM and not 9 PM.

I didn't get home until 9:40.

Ohh. I just realized there are two mafia in this game mode

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:09 am 2 mafia not 3... you trying to derp clear yourself here?

Not the kind of reaction I would expect from a town's perspective.

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:09 am 2 mafia not 3... you trying to derp clear yourself here?

Not the kind of reaction I would expect from a town's perspective.

how would a town react?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:55 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:09 am 2 mafia not 3... you trying to derp clear yourself here?

Not the kind of reaction I would expect from a town's perspective.

how would a town react?

Relieved

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:25 am I tried to push Wilgy. I am town. If Wilgy was town the mafia would be voting with me and flipping my incorrect push. So Crich and Wilgy are hard different. I find it hard to believe zero town would vote with me. It is just likely CRich is town.

Lime Coke did not vote at all and has been quite opposed to Gavial's pushes on me during the day but didn't contribute to the ultimate chop. That's suspicious. Inb4 omg Mac is now omgussing LC. LC is probably not with Gavial.

If Crich is the mafia he is not with Gavial, nor Miss Carousel, nor Wilgy.

If Wilgy is mafia it is almost a given that his partner voted to save him.

This game is probably unwinnable if Gavial is town. The mafia will just kill outside the two of us and let him keep doing dumb shit.

So I am not allowing day 2 to pass without flipping Gavial regardless of what I believe his alignment to be. If I fail let it lead to my own flip so that I may escape this madness.

I think that flipping Wilgy will give us the most info about the game state, especially if they flip mafia.
Ngl if it turns out that Wilgy is mafia, then their partner is guaranteed to have voted Sig to save Wilgy.

I think what Gav is missing here, is that if Mac is town the mafia definitely don't want them around.
Which makes it a waste of time tunneling Mac tbh.
If Mac is around at LyLo, reevaluate them and that goes for everyone who has survived that far.
Still, if we get a mafia flip D2 I think town has a good chance of icing the game.

If there's one thing that makes me lean towards EoD1 not having v/v wagons, it's that the counter wagon (Wilgy) was close in size to the leading wagon (Sig).
From experience, scum don't care where they vote on v/v wagons yet if one of the main wagons is on their partner, you can bet that most of the time they'll do their part to save them by either jumping onto the town wagon or create a bandwagon of their own.

Yes I am pretty sure it's just Wilgy and Paopan. Gavial madness and vote position makes him the alternative to Paopan.

I'm quite jealous of how both of you two are mind-melding right now.
In actuality, all you've done is tunnel onto Wiggly, Me, and Gavial whilst ignoring the rest of the pack.

@MacDougall

Ok first of all if you were town I could see a little more wall post and a little more solving out of you instead of just “Oh guys it’s Gavial or Wilgy!”

Your CRichard read didn’t even seem that sincere at all, neither did Falcon’s.

You only thought we were scum because we had our vote on you because despite you saying you Scum Read CRichard before you decide “Ah forget him, people voted me!”
If your town you could have you know, continued to mention CRichard????

It’s mostly scum who’s so anal on someone voting them.

Then he’s the best part!

As soon as I Unvote you, you town read me!

WOW!
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT!

But your reasoning: “I don’t think you would be pushing me like this if you were scum.”

Why in the fuck did it take until I unvoted you for you to figure that shit out.
Seems like someone was happy I unvoted them.

BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE


As soon as I vote the 0 poster you give almost a lock reads as if the 0 poster gives SO MUCH INFO.

Lock Towning 4 Town off of a 0 Poster? Lol, really Mac?

If your gonna tell me any of this is Townie Mac then LOL.

Not to mention that post you just made is being used to discredit me which is also wolfy.

“Oh look at Gavial thinking I’m a wolf because I didn’t vote the 0 poster and I scum read Gavial for pushing me!”
But the way you said it almost sounded like your trying to not only discredit people’s believe in me but it kinda feels like in an attempt to mock what I did and say it was horrible and that I don’t have anything on you when I clearly do”

Oh and “Some other mystery I'm not cognizant of?“ is an Over Fucking REACTION. Mac.

I pointed out why your scum, read the damn game!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:26 am Also I would like Gavial to at least attempt to make solves that involve not me.

Lol I have read, I legit just made a ObvTown read on Paopan.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:25 am I tried to push Wilgy. I am town. If Wilgy was town the mafia would be voting with me and flipping my incorrect push. So Crich and Wilgy are hard different. I find it hard to believe zero town would vote with me. It is just likely CRich is town.

Lime Coke did not vote at all and has been quite opposed to Gavial's pushes on me during the day but didn't contribute to the ultimate chop. That's suspicious. Inb4 omg Mac is now omgussing LC. LC is probably not with Gavial.

If Crich is the mafia he is not with Gavial, nor Miss Carousel, nor Wilgy.

If Wilgy is mafia it is almost a given that his partner voted to save him.

This game is probably unwinnable if Gavial is town. The mafia will just kill outside the two of us and let him keep doing dumb shit.

So I am not allowing day 2 to pass without flipping Gavial regardless of what I believe his alignment to be. If I fail let it lead to my own flip so that I may escape this madness.

How would CRichard not be aligned with me if I just saved him.
Lol ok, I’m not mafia but if I was I’d have totally done that to save CRichard.

You can push a town and with this town it didn’t look like much an interest in caring to push Wilgy.
People were more inclined with CRichard but us town decided hey guys let’s make mafia shake their heads and vote Sig!

Then now your saying to PL Me?
L
M
A
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If your town Mac it, you should have clear sight that the flip didn’t really solve much.

Your pushing some kind of almost for certain narrative.
The only ones who was voting Wilgy was like you and someone else.
That’s it.
Meanwhile 3 was on CRichard one of which was Paopan who I convinced to vote Sig with me and also get Wilgy to vote Sig with me and yes I was really hoping Sig was Mafia so it clears us all and you can stop being

Also Wilgy could have voted CRichard but never did.

But wait guys.

According to Mac that can never be a team, he came up with the game winning solve just by day 1 with a Zero Poster yeet.

Lol, I can’t anymore I really can’t.

Like if I were to ever Think Wilgy is scum I wouldn’t be like he HAS to be scum with Paopan.
LmaoZ

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:27 am tl;dr Gavial + Wilgy to die. If both are town we deserve to lose.

This has scum written all over it.

I’m obvious town and Wilgy is likely town.

CRichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:25 am I tried to push Wilgy. I am town. If Wilgy was town the mafia would be voting with me and flipping my incorrect push. So Crich and Wilgy are hard different. I find it hard to believe zero town would vote with me. It is just likely CRich is town.

Lime Coke did not vote at all and has been quite opposed to Gavial's pushes on me during the day but didn't contribute to the ultimate chop. That's suspicious. Inb4 omg Mac is now omgussing LC. LC is probably not with Gavial.

If Crich is the mafia he is not with Gavial, nor Miss Carousel, nor Wilgy.

If Wilgy is mafia it is almost a given that his partner voted to save him.

This game is probably unwinnable if Gavial is town. The mafia will just kill outside the two of us and let him keep doing dumb shit.

So I am not allowing day 2 to pass without flipping Gavial regardless of what I believe his alignment to be. If I fail let it lead to my own flip so that I may escape this madness.

I think that flipping Wilgy will give us the most info about the game state, especially if they flip mafia.
Ngl if it turns out that Wilgy is mafia, then their partner is guaranteed to have voted Sig to save Wilgy.

You realize if I didn’t make that Sig wagon you probably would have went over right?

Are you Mac scum buddy?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:09 am Yes I am pretty sure it's just Wilgy and Paopan. Gavial madness and vote position makes him the alternative to Paopan.

OMFG what is it with you and votes!!??

Gotta love how Mac never even noticed Wilgy never voted CRichard.

Paopan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:45 am I'm quite jealous of how both of you two are mind-melding right now.
In actuality, all you've done is tunnel onto Wiggly, Me, and Gavial whilst ignoring the rest of the pack.

I think Mac/CRichard is scum team tbh.

[VOTE: Gav] aubergine



I don't care if he's Maf or not, he's actually more in his town range.


If he's left alive, he'll cause more harm than good.




Wilgy lookin very sus rn

It ain’t even voting phase and you be saying you wanna PL me.

Mac is definitely scum with either Falcon or CRichardZ

@DrWilgy
@Paopan


Us Town we need to rival together to take down Mac!

@Miss Carousel
@Lime Coke


You two are also probably town!
Let’s form a pact and take down wolves before it’s too late!

Mac is scared of me and is trying to vote me out and their buddy either Falcon or CRichard is also probably going to join them on it because Mac knows the only one OCD about votes his him.

I want you all to know if it’s CRichard and Mac I take full responsibility for fucking it up and forcing a hit on the zero poster!

Here Mac I’ll enlighten you.

@MacDougall

Assuming Wilgy posts so more (which I expect him to do) if you in some world flip Town, I’ll hard evaluate Dr.Wilgy although I still think he’s town I might also just be blind sighted because I don’t think you and him are ever partners.