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Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:09 pm
by Syn
Dunia is town, btw.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:10 pm
by Syn
You know it's right because it started a new page.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:10 pm
by Marmot
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:09 pm Dunia is town, btw.

Shhhh, I'm waiting for scotty to be opportunistic.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:11 pm
by Scotty
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:50 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:38 pm
dyachei wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:32 pm can someone summarize the scotty case?
His first post was to make a lazy other-game progression read on HK.

Since then he's supported LinearPoint's case on me and HK (which amounts to "They posted a lot and there is a difference check between them"), but then 180'd on that when other people discredited LP. (First instance of "jumping onto the train late.")

Then he quoted Dunia's reads list, which is actually contrary to his own (Dunia has HK as top town), but he says it matches his. Half an hour later he posts his updated reads, which are again, not like Dunia's.

Then he jumps late onto the train again and pushes the "top posters are wolfy" (HK and me) lazy case, after, again, other people already have.

Then he tries to say HK has TMI that I'm town (circling back around to his initial wolf read on HK).
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:39 pm oh ffs you’re all goblins. Don’t D1 me again please. I’m over it. Kill me D2 at least
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:41 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:39 pm oh ffs you’re all goblins. Don’t D1 me again please. I’m over it. Kill me D2 at least
Do you have a wolf read besides "one of HK or Syn"?
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:23 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:03 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

this seems like a fun place to push

Scotty why aren't you a wolf?
I’ve been domesticated over many millennia and I’m probably a better friend than a cat ever will be, you…feline
correct on an evolutionary scale. But I meant this game specifically.
this line of questioning is coming off as opportunistic.

Like, how am I supposed to answer this? You don’t label a “white” rock as an “absence of black” rock.

Why are you town?
Image
As you are failing to highlight with this progression of quotes is that I am responding to them in order of thread. It’s going to be very hard for me to get out of a tunnel thinking you are bad this game until you flip or some mech shit happens. I just want you to know that

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:11 pm
by dunya
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:09 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:08 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:06 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:05 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:03 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:02 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:01 pm @Marmot what do you think of dunia's current use of exclamations and gifs in response to scumreads?
oh my.

oh my, the towncore has fallen.

Excuse me?
you, syn, dya were my towncore.
And?
and two of them wanna flip on me?

is something wrong here? did i offend you?

Are they your towncore? I'm confused. I can't tell if this is a scumread of any of those three people listed or what it was trying to say.
marmot, syn and dya are my towncore. i do not scumread any of you.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:11 pm
by Scotty
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:51 pm i think scotty is town and very unlike how he played in lotr mafia. but that's just me.
TMI

Dunya mafia

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:12 pm
by Marmot
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:11 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:09 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:08 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:06 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:05 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:03 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:02 pm

oh my.

oh my, the towncore has fallen.

Excuse me?
you, syn, dya were my towncore.
And?
and two of them wanna flip on me?

is something wrong here? did i offend you?

Are they your towncore? I'm confused. I can't tell if this is a scumread of any of those three people listed or what it was trying to say.
marmot, syn and dya are my towncore. i do not scumread any of you.

My original post was a joke, not an attempt to flip on you. :p

But I was curious to see who would bite.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:12 pm
by Urist
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:06 pm I'm down to kill Scotty D1 if he doesn't town tell before EoD.
Seems hasty.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:13 pm
by dunya
Le petit poussin wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:08 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:57 pm @ urist - w
@ Dolby - w
@ DrWilgy - w
@ Le petit poussin - w
@ LinearPoint - w

havent posted yet or made one nai post:
@ Jackofhearts2005 - ?
@ sig - ?
@ TonyStarkPrime - ?
@ Creature - ?

i feel very good about these town reads:
@ dyachei - t
@ hollowkatt -t
@ MacDougall - t
@ Marmot- t
@ NotAnAxehole- t
@ Scotty - t
@ syn - t

only one in wolf reads i could go back on is urist atm, but yolo. that poopoo head has caused me e m o t i o n a l damage. ;p
You went from misrepresenting me to including me with all the folks I ve been sussing up to this point.

[VOTE: dunia] aubergine

Speaking about disgust
oh man, the nostalgia this post brings ;p

i missed playing mafia with you, rask! :biggrin:

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:13 pm
by Syn
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:11 pm
As you are failing to highlight with this progression of quotes is that I am responding to them in order of thread. It’s going to be very hard for me to get out of a tunnel thinking you are bad this game until you flip or some mech shit happens. I just want you to know that
[/quote]

Everyone already knows you're in a tunnel. Changing the primary target isn't a game-changer by any means.

Besides, I gave you a golden opportunity to direct attention elsewhere and you instead made a joke about a tricycle and that I'm engaging in sound-bite journalism.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:14 pm
by dunya
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:11 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:51 pm i think scotty is town and very unlike how he played in lotr mafia. but that's just me.
TMI

Dunya mafia
what can i say, i'm just that good. :llama:

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:14 pm
by Scotty
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:57 pm @ urist - w
@ Dolby - w
@ DrWilgy - w
@ Le petit poussin - w
@ LinearPoint - w

havent posted yet or made one nai post:
@ Jackofhearts2005 - ?
@ sig - ?
@ TonyStarkPrime - ?
@ Creature - ?

i feel very good about these town reads:
@ dyachei - t
@ hollowkatt -t
@ MacDougall - t
@ Marmot- t
@ NotAnAxehole- t
@ Scotty - t
@ syn - t

only one in wolf reads i could go back on is urist atm, but yolo. that poopoo head has caused me e m o t i o n a l damage. ;p
Actually tho…I’m feeling your posts this game, while I agree with some of the wolf reads, come off as…I dunno. Partial. You have a lot of outs here. 5 wolves to 8 town is..just enough.

I can’t put my finger on it

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:14 pm
by Syn
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:11 pm
As you are failing to highlight with this progression of quotes is that I am responding to them in order of thread. It’s going to be very hard for me to get out of a tunnel thinking you are bad this game until you flip or some mech shit happens. I just want you to know that
Everyone already knows you're in a tunnel. Changing the primary target isn't a game-changer by any means.

Besides, I gave you a golden opportunity to direct attention elsewhere and you instead made a joke about a tricycle and that I'm engaging in sound-bite journalism.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:14 pm
by dunya
Urist wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:12 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:06 pm I'm down to kill Scotty D1 if he doesn't town tell before EoD.
Seems hasty.
is NAA ever not hasty?

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:15 pm
by Marmot
Le petit poussin wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:08 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:57 pm @ urist - w
@ Dolby - w
@ DrWilgy - w
@ Le petit poussin - w
@ LinearPoint - w

havent posted yet or made one nai post:
@ Jackofhearts2005 - ?
@ sig - ?
@ TonyStarkPrime - ?
@ Creature - ?

i feel very good about these town reads:
@ dyachei - t
@ hollowkatt -t
@ MacDougall - t
@ Marmot- t
@ NotAnAxehole- t
@ Scotty - t
@ syn - t

only one in wolf reads i could go back on is urist atm, but yolo. that poopoo head has caused me e m o t i o n a l damage. ;p
You went from misrepresenting me to including me with all the folks I ve been sussing up to this point.

[VOTE: dunia] aubergine

Speaking about disgust

It's Day 1, so I don't see an issue with this. Personally I prefer hold off on the world-building until after a wolf flip or until Day 2 or later when there's more/better interactives to work with.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:15 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Urist wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:12 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:06 pm I'm down to kill Scotty D1 if he doesn't town tell before EoD.
Seems hasty.
This is a bad look.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:16 pm
by dunya
@Le petit poussin how did i misrepresent you btw?

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:16 pm
by Marmot
Syn is town, this is a tmi read.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:17 pm
by LinearPoint
Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:17 pm
by dunya
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:14 pm Actually tho…I’m feeling your posts this game, while I agree with some of the wolf reads, come off as…I dunno. Partial. You have a lot of outs here. 5 wolves to 8 town is..just enough.

I can’t put my finger on it
what do you mean my list comes off as partial?

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:18 pm
by Syn
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:16 pm Syn is town, this is a tmi read.
You just killed me. :(

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:18 pm
by dunya
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:17 pm but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.
i do not understand the mind gymnastics to get there.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:19 pm
by Syn
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:17 pm Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.
None of it was fake. I just don't take the game seriously in very early game (and usually even beyond, tbh). I'll probably go back to shitposting during my next WIM drop.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:20 pm
by dunya
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:19 pm I'll probably go back to shitposting during my next WIM drop.
thread needs more gifs tbh

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:20 pm
by LinearPoint
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:18 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:17 pm but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.
i do not understand the mind gymnastics to get there.
Marmot hard defending Scotty all game.
Scotty gets a slight bit of sus from Syn.
Marmot instantly switches read on Scotty.

You're also not helping to dissuade me that you are also Mafia.
I'm not dumb. I know you only posted this to hope that I stop pushing you in favor of Scotty.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:20 pm
by Syn
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:17 pm Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.
Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:21 pm
by Scotty
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:01 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:06 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:21 pm Also, Scotty is mafia until he does his town tell multiple times. There's something that he does repeatedly & reliably as town that he NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER has done repeatedly as mafia based on my analysis of his games. So I'm waiting for the trust tell, I'm good with killing him up until that point.
Also am I following right that your read comes from the guilty baseline and I have to work to ingratiate myself to a town level?

Is that how you always make your reads in games?
It depends on the read. If someone has a town tell, then they are guilty until proven town, if someone has a mafia tell, then they are town until proven mafia. This is just, common sense as to how town tells & mafia tells work - the absence of the tell means your baseline is the opposite.
:ponder:
That actually makes sense.

I’ll leave you to it.

However, your confidence of my towntell of something I do “every game” I’m town is concerning, because that means you’ve spent far too long on my ever evolving playstyle over the years.

Meta reads are overrated

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:22 pm
by Syn
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:20 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:19 pm I'll probably go back to shitposting during my next WIM drop.
thread needs more gifs tbh
Image

Dunia evading Urist and Scotty's wolf-casing and Marmot and Syn's fake sussing.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:22 pm
by Scotty
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:01 pm @Marmot what do you think of dunia's current use of exclamations and gifs in response to scumreads?
YES @Scotty that’s what it is that makes me think something is up. Too many winky blinkies!

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:22 pm
by hollowkatt
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:23 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:03 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

this seems like a fun place to push

Scotty why aren't you a wolf?
I’ve been domesticated over many millennia and I’m probably a better friend than a cat ever will be, you…feline
correct on an evolutionary scale. But I meant this game specifically.
this line of questioning is coming off as opportunistic.

Like, how am I supposed to answer this? You don’t label a “white” rock as an “absence of black” rock.

Why are you town?
because I'm far too carefree and unconcerned with how I appear to be a wolf. I think you can ask most of the people who've played with me before and they'll tell you that HK can appear carefree as a wolf but that generally speaking my wolf game I struggle to get into games, make weird posts early trying to appear as if I don't care/am joking, and that I'm caught incredibly early or not at all.

That and unless you're going to argue I have TMI finding townies is ++ev for town here

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:22 pm
by dunya
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:20 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:18 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:17 pm but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.
i do not understand the mind gymnastics to get there.
Marmot hard defending Scotty all game.
Scotty gets a slight bit of sus from Syn.
Marmot instantly switches read on Scotty.

You're also not helping to dissuade me that you are also Mafia.
I'm not dumb. I know you only posted this to hope that I stop pushing you in favor of Scotty.
i think scotty is town, so i certainly don't want you to push scotty.

i also think marmot is town.

so i only posted that because it's 100% the opposite of my reads atm.


also @Scotty partial has two very different definitions


partial
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adjective
1.
existing only in part; incomplete.
"a question to which we have only partial answers"

2.
favouring one side in a dispute above the other; biased.
"the paper gave a distorted and very partial view of the situation"

help me

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:22 pm
by LinearPoint
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:20 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:17 pm Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.
Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.
I disagree. I've seen a lot of wolves on this site throw their votes around just to appear active.
MArmot's vote in particular is just antithetical to what he has been saying all game. It comes out of left field.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:23 pm
by hollowkatt
I refuse to town read dunya. Not because she's not being townie but because I have The Fear

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:23 pm
by Marmot
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:20 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:18 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:17 pm but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.
i do not understand the mind gymnastics to get there.
Marmot hard defending Scotty all game.
Scotty gets a slight bit of sus from Syn.
Marmot instantly switches read on Scotty.

You're also not helping to dissuade me that you are also Mafia.
I'm not dumb. I know you only posted this to hope that I stop pushing you in favor of Scotty.

Hard-defending them is a stretch, but yes I did townread him to start.

Syn's case swayed me more than my own read, what would you expect me to do in that scenario?

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:23 pm
by Scotty
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:04 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:03 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:59 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:55 pm Sounds like a problem for D2 though.
Image
Please let me set you and Scotty up for the D1-2 punch.
i'm down to be mischopped d1 if people wanna read me based on gif usage ;p
[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:23 pm
by Syn
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:22 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:23 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:03 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

this seems like a fun place to push

Scotty why aren't you a wolf?
I’ve been domesticated over many millennia and I’m probably a better friend than a cat ever will be, you…feline
correct on an evolutionary scale. But I meant this game specifically.
this line of questioning is coming off as opportunistic.

Like, how am I supposed to answer this? You don’t label a “white” rock as an “absence of black” rock.

Why are you town?
because I'm far too carefree and unconcerned with how I appear to be a wolf. I think you can ask most of the people who've played with me before and they'll tell you that HK can appear carefree as a wolf but that generally speaking my wolf game I struggle to get into games, make weird posts early trying to appear as if I don't care/am joking, and that I'm caught incredibly early or not at all.
Is this a joke?

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:23 pm
by dunya
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:22 pm
dunya wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:20 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:19 pm I'll probably go back to shitposting during my next WIM drop.
thread needs more gifs tbh
Image

Dunia evading Urist and Scotty's wolf-casing and Marmot and Syn's fake sussing.
did urist wolf case me? i missed it by posting too many gifs tbh.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:24 pm
by hollowkatt
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:22 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:20 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:17 pm Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.
Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.
I disagree. I've seen a lot of wolves on this site throw their votes around just to appear active.
MArmot's vote in particular is just antithetical to what he has been saying all game. It comes out of left field.
counterpoint: marmot is town

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:24 pm
by LinearPoint
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:00 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:58 pm I guarantee I will correctly read Scotty and Hallowcat.
MacDougall wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:30 am Scotty and HK are probably mafia though so that's fun.
Le petit poussin wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:13 am
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:50 am Dolby (9)

Already too much of a tryhard
Well I am mostly bothered by the fact he seems to root for TRs badly and also liking that Syn's vote. I just don't wanna burry him yet because of recent bad experiences but yeah. lower null on Dolby.

HK and you are my only TRs so far. (rest is null really, this game is starting slowly)

Why is everyone dual-reading HK and Scotty like this?
To me this appeared engineered to deflect suspicion off HK and Scotty.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:25 pm
by hollowkatt
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:23 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:22 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:23 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:03 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

this seems like a fun place to push

Scotty why aren't you a wolf?
I’ve been domesticated over many millennia and I’m probably a better friend than a cat ever will be, you…feline
correct on an evolutionary scale. But I meant this game specifically.
this line of questioning is coming off as opportunistic.

Like, how am I supposed to answer this? You don’t label a “white” rock as an “absence of black” rock.

Why are you town?
because I'm far too carefree and unconcerned with how I appear to be a wolf. I think you can ask most of the people who've played with me before and they'll tell you that HK can appear carefree as a wolf but that generally speaking my wolf game I struggle to get into games, make weird posts early trying to appear as if I don't care/am joking, and that I'm caught incredibly early or not at all.
Is this a joke?
I think it's an accurate assessment of my early game wolf play

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:25 pm
by Scotty
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:06 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:03 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:38 pm
dyachei wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:32 pm can someone summarize the scotty case?
His first post was to make a lazy other-game progression read on HK.

Since then he's supported LinearPoint's case on me and HK (which amounts to "They posted a lot and there is a difference check between them"), but then 180'd on that when other people discredited LP. (First instance of "jumping onto the train late.")

Then he quoted Dunia's reads list, which is actually contrary to his own (Dunia has HK as top town), but he says it matches his. Half an hour later he posts his updated reads, which are again, not like Dunia's.

Then he jumps late onto the train again and pushes the "top posters are wolfy" (HK and me) lazy case, after, again, other people already have.

Then he tries to say HK has TMI that I'm town (circling back around to his initial wolf read on HK).
After just being HK’s scum mate, I see it entirely relevant to compare his first posts as a parallel to that game.

Your second point of jumping on a train. I actually have no idea what you’re talking about. This whole “case” has no supporting evidence and is a lazy tunnel. I think you are bad.

The yellow highlighted is the most egregiously disingenuous. Those reads were not contrary to my own. Check my reads right before that. I’m being gaslit.

Ironically, I’m Feeling better already with HK, who has put in more work this day 1 than he did all of D1 of Rings, when he seemed lazy, pulled back and on the defensive the whole time.
Everything in this reply is inaccurate. Since your very first post in this game, you've been tunneling HK and flipping on reads after seeing how the wind is blowing.
I hate that I’m still having to respond to this.

Show your work. If you think having a latent, unsubstantiated and not oft talked about scum read on HK is tunneling, you should look in the mirror

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:25 pm
by Syn
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:24 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:00 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:58 pm I guarantee I will correctly read Scotty and Hallowcat.
MacDougall wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:30 am Scotty and HK are probably mafia though so that's fun.
Le petit poussin wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:13 am
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:50 am Dolby (9)

Already too much of a tryhard
Well I am mostly bothered by the fact he seems to root for TRs badly and also liking that Syn's vote. I just don't wanna burry him yet because of recent bad experiences but yeah. lower null on Dolby.

HK and you are my only TRs so far. (rest is null really, this game is starting slowly)

Why is everyone dual-reading HK and Scotty like this?
To me this appeared engineered to deflect suspicion off HK and Scotty.
Is it engineered if it's... right?

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:25 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:21 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:01 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:06 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:21 pm Also, Scotty is mafia until he does his town tell multiple times. There's something that he does repeatedly & reliably as town that he NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER has done repeatedly as mafia based on my analysis of his games. So I'm waiting for the trust tell, I'm good with killing him up until that point.
Also am I following right that your read comes from the guilty baseline and I have to work to ingratiate myself to a town level?

Is that how you always make your reads in games?
It depends on the read. If someone has a town tell, then they are guilty until proven town, if someone has a mafia tell, then they are town until proven mafia. This is just, common sense as to how town tells & mafia tells work - the absence of the tell means your baseline is the opposite.
:ponder:
That actually makes sense.

I’ll leave you to it.

However, your confidence of my towntell of something I do “every game” I’m town is concerning, because that means you’ve spent far too long on my ever evolving playstyle over the years.

Meta reads are overrated
:shrug: If meta reads are overrated, then I suggest you prove that right by identifying what I'm meta reading you on and make me read you incorrectly most of the time. So far I'm 100% with this meta.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:26 pm
by LinearPoint
Can like any of you stop acting scummy for 2 seconds? It'll make finding scum a lot easier.
Unless I am just the only town posting right now, in which case I feel like Town already lost from inactivity.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:26 pm
by Syn
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:25 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:06 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:03 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:38 pm
dyachei wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:32 pm can someone summarize the scotty case?
His first post was to make a lazy other-game progression read on HK.

Since then he's supported LinearPoint's case on me and HK (which amounts to "They posted a lot and there is a difference check between them"), but then 180'd on that when other people discredited LP. (First instance of "jumping onto the train late.")

Then he quoted Dunia's reads list, which is actually contrary to his own (Dunia has HK as top town), but he says it matches his. Half an hour later he posts his updated reads, which are again, not like Dunia's.

Then he jumps late onto the train again and pushes the "top posters are wolfy" (HK and me) lazy case, after, again, other people already have.

Then he tries to say HK has TMI that I'm town (circling back around to his initial wolf read on HK).
After just being HK’s scum mate, I see it entirely relevant to compare his first posts as a parallel to that game.

Your second point of jumping on a train. I actually have no idea what you’re talking about. This whole “case” has no supporting evidence and is a lazy tunnel. I think you are bad.

The yellow highlighted is the most egregiously disingenuous. Those reads were not contrary to my own. Check my reads right before that. I’m being gaslit.

Ironically, I’m Feeling better already with HK, who has put in more work this day 1 than he did all of D1 of Rings, when he seemed lazy, pulled back and on the defensive the whole time.
Everything in this reply is inaccurate. Since your very first post in this game, you've been tunneling HK and flipping on reads after seeing how the wind is blowing.
I hate that I’m still having to respond to this.

Show your work. If you think having a latent, unsubstantiated and not oft talked about scum read on HK is tunneling, you should look in the mirror
I did show my work, tho. And again, if you have a wolf read besides "it's either HK or Syn," I'm all ears.

You're also welcome to ignore me. Nobody is taking me seriously. Replying to me keeps it on the current page.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:26 pm
by LinearPoint
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:25 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:24 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:00 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:58 pm I guarantee I will correctly read Scotty and Hallowcat.
MacDougall wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:30 am Scotty and HK are probably mafia though so that's fun.
Le petit poussin wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:13 am
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:50 am Dolby (9)

Already too much of a tryhard
Well I am mostly bothered by the fact he seems to root for TRs badly and also liking that Syn's vote. I just don't wanna burry him yet because of recent bad experiences but yeah. lower null on Dolby.

HK and you are my only TRs so far. (rest is null really, this game is starting slowly)

Why is everyone dual-reading HK and Scotty like this?
To me this appeared engineered to deflect suspicion off HK and Scotty.
Is it engineered if it's... right?
Deflecting is not a thing Town do.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:26 pm
by hollowkatt
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:25 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:06 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:03 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:38 pm
dyachei wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:32 pm can someone summarize the scotty case?
His first post was to make a lazy other-game progression read on HK.

Since then he's supported LinearPoint's case on me and HK (which amounts to "They posted a lot and there is a difference check between them"), but then 180'd on that when other people discredited LP. (First instance of "jumping onto the train late.")

Then he quoted Dunia's reads list, which is actually contrary to his own (Dunia has HK as top town), but he says it matches his. Half an hour later he posts his updated reads, which are again, not like Dunia's.

Then he jumps late onto the train again and pushes the "top posters are wolfy" (HK and me) lazy case, after, again, other people already have.

Then he tries to say HK has TMI that I'm town (circling back around to his initial wolf read on HK).
After just being HK’s scum mate, I see it entirely relevant to compare his first posts as a parallel to that game.

Your second point of jumping on a train. I actually have no idea what you’re talking about. This whole “case” has no supporting evidence and is a lazy tunnel. I think you are bad.

The yellow highlighted is the most egregiously disingenuous. Those reads were not contrary to my own. Check my reads right before that. I’m being gaslit.

Ironically, I’m Feeling better already with HK, who has put in more work this day 1 than he did all of D1 of Rings, when he seemed lazy, pulled back and on the defensive the whole time.
Everything in this reply is inaccurate. Since your very first post in this game, you've been tunneling HK and flipping on reads after seeing how the wind is blowing.
I hate that I’m still having to respond to this.

Show your work. If you think having a latent, unsubstantiated and not oft talked about scum read on HK is tunneling, you should look in the mirror
he did, shortly after the post you're replying to.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:27 pm
by Syn
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:25 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:23 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:22 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:23 pm
Scotty wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:03 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

this seems like a fun place to push

Scotty why aren't you a wolf?
I’ve been domesticated over many millennia and I’m probably a better friend than a cat ever will be, you…feline
correct on an evolutionary scale. But I meant this game specifically.
this line of questioning is coming off as opportunistic.

Like, how am I supposed to answer this? You don’t label a “white” rock as an “absence of black” rock.

Why are you town?
because I'm far too carefree and unconcerned with how I appear to be a wolf. I think you can ask most of the people who've played with me before and they'll tell you that HK can appear carefree as a wolf but that generally speaking my wolf game I struggle to get into games, make weird posts early trying to appear as if I don't care/am joking, and that I'm caught incredibly early or not at all.
Is this a joke?
I think it's an accurate assessment of my early game wolf play
Oh, okay. You're wrong. Now I get to think about why you'd lie about your meta in a game with people who know it.

Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:27 pm
by dunya
Syn wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:25 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:24 pm To me this appeared engineered to deflect suspicion off HK and Scotty.
Is it engineered if it's... right?
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Re: RPG Mafia D1

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:27 pm
by hollowkatt
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:26 pm Can like any of you stop acting scummy for 2 seconds? It'll make finding scum a lot easier.
Unless I am just the only town posting right now, in which case I feel like Town already lost from inactivity.
found the wolf. you're welcome

[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine