The Syndicate

hollowkatt ( 7 ) Marmot, Spacedaisy, Wisdom, Cape90, DrWilgy, Seanzie, Sabiplz
sabiplz ( 3 ) Shending_Help, NotAnAxehole, hollowkatt
falcon45ca ( 1 ) dyachei
Wisdom ( 1 ) Alison
Not Voting ( 3 ) dunya, falcon45ca, Jackofhearts2005

@hollowkatt has died! They were...

Mafia!!

Their role:

Nerd Walking Laps:

On odd nights, you are a ninja--you cannot be tracked or watched or otherwise detected by normal means. On even nights, you may commute yourself--this effectively removes you from the game for the night. You cannot perform any other actions while commuting, including carrying the factional kill, and any normal actions targeting you will be as if they targeted nobody. This action trumps any normal roleblocks, but counters to it may or may not exist.

It is now night one. Actions are due by Sunday July 17, 6pm eastern. D2 will start an hour after that.

In the night! @NotAnAxehole has died. They flip town, even night rolecop.

Today there will be two ITA windows. Each window will last about an hour. Each player has one shot available to them (one shot total, not one for each window), with a baseline 10% chance to hit (there may or may not be modifiers to this). If you have already taken your shot, do not try to take another. To take a shot, please follow this template:

Get dead get out of the thread [playername], @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I will then roll to see if it hits, and announce in thread if it is a hit or a miss. If you attempt to shoot someone that has already died, your shot will be refunded.

The first ITA window will be Sunday July 17, 8pm Eastern, and will last about an hour. The second ITA window will be Monday, July 18, 7pm Eastern, and will last about an hour.

If you hammer before one or both windows the day will end and you will lose that window.

Votes left on dead players will be counted as not voting, votes left by dead players will not be counted. The number needed for a hammer will decrease with player deaths as appropriate.


Eod is Tuesday July 19, 7pm eastern. Hammer is currently at 7.

Oh both ita windows are in midnight, great >_>

Also rip NAA!

First off: super glad my read on hk was accurate and correct.

Second off:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:57 pm I really think Sabi should be the elim.

She claimed PR though

Yeah, I don't believe it.

So @Seanzie i want to talk about this.

Third off: Also @Shending_Help lets chat about your eod.

Fourth off: I am so ready for this game. Feels good when my read was correct.

Let's goooooooo

Btw just gonna point out that HK tends to win games where he gets punted early so don't read too much into spew, he could very well have been asked to be bussed.

N1 Shending_Help v

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:05 pm First off: super glad my read on hk was accurate and correct.

Second off:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:57 pm I really think Sabi should be the elim.

She claimed PR though

Yeah, I don't believe it.

So @Seanzie i want to talk about this.

Third off: Also @Shending_Help lets chat about your eod.

Fourth off: I am so ready for this game. Feels good when my read was correct.

Let's goooooooo

Then talk.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:06 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:05 pm First off: super glad my read on hk was accurate and correct.

Second off:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:57 pm I really think Sabi should be the elim.

She claimed PR though

Yeah, I don't believe it.

So @Seanzie i want to talk about this.

Third off: Also @Shending_Help lets chat about your eod.

Fourth off: I am so ready for this game. Feels good when my read was correct.

Let's goooooooo

Then talk.

Why did you push for my Elim to kill off the wagon on falcon and HK?

Why after pushing people to go on my wagon you decided at the very last minute to vote HK? That was in the bussing time zone.

Why didn't you believe my claim?

Your whole eod is a mess and is super wolfu.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:06 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:05 pm First off: super glad my read on hk was accurate and correct.

Second off:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:57 pm I really think Sabi should be the elim.

She claimed PR though

Yeah, I don't believe it.

So @Seanzie i want to talk about this.

Third off: Also @Shending_Help lets chat about your eod.

Fourth off: I am so ready for this game. Feels good when my read was correct.

Let's goooooooo

Then talk.

Why did you push for my Elim to kill off the wagon on falcon and HK?

Why after pushing people to go on my wagon you decided at the very last minute to vote HK? That was in the bussing time zone.

Why didn't you believe my claim?

Your whole eod is a mess and is super wolfu.

Falcon was not a valid wagon, it was a flashwagon, and a bad one at that (regardless of Falcon's alignment). You and HK were the D1 wagons. "to kill off the wagon on falcon and HK" that's a funny way to say "to kill Sabiplz". By funny I mean wolfy.

Pretty sure if you read the thread you know the answer to this. Do you not believe my initial reason?

Timing, the fact that mafia knows all roles so fakeclaims are expected, and the fact that afaik Rondo doesn't know you.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:16 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:06 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:05 pm First off: super glad my read on hk was accurate and correct.

Second off:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:57 pm I really think Sabi should be the elim.

She claimed PR though

Yeah, I don't believe it.

So @Seanzie i want to talk about this.

Third off: Also @Shending_Help lets chat about your eod.

Fourth off: I am so ready for this game. Feels good when my read was correct.

Let's goooooooo

Then talk.

Why did you push for my Elim to kill off the wagon on falcon and HK?

Why after pushing people to go on my wagon you decided at the very last minute to vote HK? That was in the bussing time zone.

Why didn't you believe my claim?

Your whole eod is a mess and is super wolfu.

Falcon was not a valid wagon, it was a flashwagon, and a bad one at that (regardless of Falcon's alignment). You and HK were the D1 wagons. "to kill off the wagon on falcon and HK" that's a funny way to say "to kill Sabiplz". By funny I mean wolfy.

Pretty sure if you read the thread you know the answer to this. Do you not believe my initial reason?

Timing, the fact that mafia knows all roles so fakeclaims are expected, and the fact that afaik Rondo doesn't know you.

Oh, I didn't see your last paragraph initially. Really? I'm fairly certain it was super townie, butttt.... I think it'd take a townie to see that.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:16 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:06 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:05 pm First off: super glad my read on hk was accurate and correct.

Second off:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:57 pm I really think Sabi should be the elim.

She claimed PR though

Yeah, I don't believe it.

So @Seanzie i want to talk about this.

Third off: Also @Shending_Help lets chat about your eod.

Fourth off: I am so ready for this game. Feels good when my read was correct.

Let's goooooooo

Then talk.

Why did you push for my Elim to kill off the wagon on falcon and HK?

Why after pushing people to go on my wagon you decided at the very last minute to vote HK? That was in the bussing time zone.

Why didn't you believe my claim?

Your whole eod is a mess and is super wolfu.

Falcon was not a valid wagon, it was a flashwagon, and a bad one at that (regardless of Falcon's alignment). You and HK were the D1 wagons. "to kill off the wagon on falcon and HK" that's a funny way to say "to kill Sabiplz". By funny I mean wolfy.

Pretty sure if you read the thread you know the answer to this. Do you not believe my initial reason?

Timing, the fact that mafia knows all roles so fakeclaims are expected, and the fact that afaik Rondo doesn't know you.

Last I checked you were protecting a wolf from being killed? I was on hk once I started posting in this game. Yiu can check my vote history in my mafia games I don't ever vote my mafia partners ever because I don't believe in bussing esp not someone with a useful power like his.

Your eod is a mess and was beyond scummy. Don't omgus me on this. If you believed I was lying why didn't you just stick to my wagon then? Why did you hope on hk at the last second? Did you want it for credit?

Think Sabi is *probably* town unless there's like a bunch of mafia (which i don't really think there is since i'm still on the track Lime would pick some fun PR powers / mechanics) and they decided on the strat of hard bussing d1 semi-early on.

If falcon is town too I agree my EoD wolf sides really hard

With that said, I think i've been towny enough that it shouldn't really matter

Do you plan to share results Sabi?

Given that this game has 6? mafia players in it, there's still a decent chance that one or any of the cw's were also scum while so many are still alive.

I may or may not make it back in time for the first ita window, but the people I'd support ita'ing in this first window are:

Sean: bad pushes and lack of progression on them day 1
Jack: strong wolf, and offered minimal day 1 content
Falcon: offered even less content than jack

I'm open to others too, but I haven't paid attention to a number of players. Dya and Spacedaisy are nulls to me atm.

Given sabi's hand in flipping a scum pr, we should keep her alive.

@Seanzie what was your thought process at eod yesterday?

Did I misread the op? I thought mafia gets 6 players and 2 prs?

I will say that in the world where Sabi / HK ARE w/w i'd expect sabi to play d2 exactly like they currently are, to make use of the current situation before things gets cleared up

But i could see it if they're V too

Sean, why did you vote on the falcon wagon if it was a bad flash wagon?

Also what makes a bad flash wagon? (Alison don't answer this)

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:27 pm Did I misread the op? I thought mafia gets 6 players and 2 prs?

if i get it right mafia gets 8 selections, where 1-6 of those selections can be players. So it can technically be 1 mafia and 7 PR's/Mechanics, but that makes little sense probably unless the mechanics are something like extra lives or some shit

First ita window opens in an hour right?

Could other people please respond to the list I proposed? I have to leave in a few.

30 mintues from now is first ita window, not an hour

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:25 pm Do you plan to share results Sabi?

Given that this game has 6? mafia players in it, there's still a decent chance that one or any of the cw's were also scum while so many are still alive.

I may or may not make it back in time for the first ita window, but the people I'd support ita'ing in this first window are:

Sean: bad pushes and lack of progression on them day 1
Jack: strong wolf, and offered minimal day 1 content
Falcon: offered even less content than jack

I'm open to others too, but I haven't paid attention to a number of players. Dya and Spacedaisy are nulls to me atm.

Given sabi's hand in flipping a scum pr, we should keep her alive.

@Seanzie what was your thought process at eod yesterday?

Do Roleblocker get results because Nook hasn't said anything to me if my action worked or not? Kinda confused? I haven't rolled Roleblocker on mu but on my homesite the role isn't informed if it worked or didn't.

@Marmot hypothetical time because I learned stuff in my last mash:

If Sean gets hit and flips, V then who do we go to next? If he flips w, then who is next?
Same for Jack and falcon (I guess less him because uh no content).

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:25 pm Do you plan to share results Sabi?

Given that this game has 6? mafia players in it, there's still a decent chance that one or any of the cw's were also scum while so many are still alive.

I may or may not make it back in time for the first ita window, but the people I'd support ita'ing in this first window are:

Sean: bad pushes and lack of progression on them day 1
Jack: strong wolf, and offered minimal day 1 content
Falcon: offered even less content than jack

I'm open to others too, but I haven't paid attention to a number of players. Dya and Spacedaisy are nulls to me atm.

Given sabi's hand in flipping a scum pr, we should keep her alive.

@Seanzie what was your thought process at eod yesterday?

i back up falcon/jack shots for sure. there were a couple things i remember liking from Sean's d1, but it's not strong enough that i would hard defend probably. But wouldn't be my preferred ITA target rn

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:28 pm I will say that in the world where Sabi / HK ARE w/w i'd expect sabi to play d2 exactly like they currently are, to make use of the current situation before things gets cleared up

But i could see it if they're V too

I really don't like how hedgey you are being in regards to me. I think that's the right term. You framed me twice at this start of day as wolf and then backed out of it. You planted the seads of tinfoil about me. I know this strategy and its rather annoying.

I was specifically asking if you will share who you blocked (or are waiting to share) Sabi. I think you're right about not getting info back on it.

I honestly don't know if that exercise would help with Jack or falcon because they've said nothing. With Sean flips v, I would put Sabi next given his push on them (and their reaction to it today) or Alison (given his early day 1 push)

I would be fine with Alison shots too. Think her main focus yesterday was tunneling a villager for meh reasons, and most of her other content was questioning/talking about Cape's opening, long after it should've become irrevelant

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:21 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:16 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:06 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:05 pm First off: super glad my read on hk was accurate and correct.

Second off:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm

She claimed PR though

Yeah, I don't believe it.

So @Seanzie i want to talk about this.

Third off: Also @Shending_Help lets chat about your eod.

Fourth off: I am so ready for this game. Feels good when my read was correct.

Let's goooooooo

Then talk.

Why did you push for my Elim to kill off the wagon on falcon and HK?

Why after pushing people to go on my wagon you decided at the very last minute to vote HK? That was in the bussing time zone.

Why didn't you believe my claim?

Your whole eod is a mess and is super wolfu.

Falcon was not a valid wagon, it was a flashwagon, and a bad one at that (regardless of Falcon's alignment). You and HK were the D1 wagons. "to kill off the wagon on falcon and HK" that's a funny way to say "to kill Sabiplz". By funny I mean wolfy.

Pretty sure if you read the thread you know the answer to this. Do you not believe my initial reason?

Timing, the fact that mafia knows all roles so fakeclaims are expected, and the fact that afaik Rondo doesn't know you.

Last I checked you were protecting a wolf from being killed? I was on hk once I started posting in this game. Yiu can check my vote history in my mafia games I don't ever vote my mafia partners ever because I don't believe in bussing esp not someone with a useful power like his.

Your eod is a mess and was beyond scummy. Don't omgus me on this. If you believed I was lying why didn't you just stick to my wagon then? Why did you hope on hk at the last second? Did you want it for credit?

Nah, that is a disengenous take. Let me know when you're willing to consider the possibility that I'm town. Until then, there is no point to this argument.

Again, I clearly posted the reason for me moving from you to HK. If your suspicion was genuine, I would think you would have read this either when you first read EoD or if you've ISO'd me since then, OR at least after my last post where I already mentioned this. Is my initial explanation confusing you, or does it just not fit the narrative you want to spin?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:34 pm

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:28 pm I will say that in the world where Sabi / HK ARE w/w i'd expect sabi to play d2 exactly like they currently are, to make use of the current situation before things gets cleared up

But i could see it if they're V too

I really don't like how hedgey you are being in regards to me. I think that's the right term. You framed me twice at this start of day as wolf and then backed out of it. You planted the seads of tinfoil about me. I know this strategy and its rather annoying.

Ok. I'm just giving my thoughts unfiltered, hedgey or not. Calling is a strategy implies i'm a wolf, which i'm not

@Jackofhearts2005 @falcon45ca please come post asap

Gotta run. I wish the ita window wasn't coming up rn

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:25 pm Do you plan to share results Sabi?

Given that this game has 6? mafia players in it, there's still a decent chance that one or any of the cw's were also scum while so many are still alive.

I may or may not make it back in time for the first ita window, but the people I'd support ita'ing in this first window are:

Sean: bad pushes and lack of progression on them day 1
Jack: strong wolf, and offered minimal day 1 content
Falcon: offered even less content than jack

I'm open to others too, but I haven't paid attention to a number of players. Dya and Spacedaisy are nulls to me atm.

Given sabi's hand in flipping a scum pr, we should keep her alive.

@Seanzie what was your thought process at eod yesterday?

Falcon was a horrible wagon, but after I posted that, I realized it would have been better to vote them in order to tie them with HK to see if someone was willing to break that tie, but then you pointed out that mafia wins ties, so that little exercise wasn't going to work like I intended, so I moved to Sabi. I was happy with either Sabi or Hk with a preference for Sabi. Then at some point it was tied 5/5 (I think you saw a 4/4 tie or something like that, and moved to HK to break that tie, but Daisy and some one else must have voted HK right around the same time that you moved (I say someone else because I never saw it at 4/4, but I believe you saw a tie and moved. Once I saw it 5/5 with you on Sabi, I decided to break the tie by moving to HK. You I believe followed me shortly after, presumably having seen the same tie I did.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:27 pm Did I misread the op? I thought mafia gets 6 players and 2 prs?

Mafia gets 8 drafts, at most 6 of which can be used to recruit mafia members.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:28 pm Sean, why did you vote on the falcon wagon if it was a bad flash wagon?

Also what makes a bad flash wagon? (Alison don't answer this)

Regardless of what Alison thinks, pretry much all flashwagons are bad. A flashwagon onto a chronically misyeeted person whose flip would give almost no info when I liked the two real wagons though is particularly bad.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:30 pm First ita window opens in an hour right?

Could other people please respond to the list I proposed? I have to leave in a few.

What list?

Think im going to bed and shooting in the 2nd window tomorrow instead when there's more info

gn

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:48 pm Think im going to bed and shooting in the 2nd window tomorrow instead when there's more info

gn

Before you go, if you had to shoot in this window, who would it be?

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:48 pm Think im going to bed and shooting in the 2nd window tomorrow instead when there's more info

gn

Before you go, if you had to shoot in this window, who would it be?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:49 pm

Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:48 pm Think im going to bed and shooting in the 2nd window tomorrow instead when there's more info

gn

Before you go, if you had to shoot in this window, who would it be?

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Yeah since I'm up anyway I'm probably gonna shoot, not confident I'll be able to stay up tomorrow (got covid so am currently more exhausted than usual).

I still think Alison could be wolfing, willing to give that a shot.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:42 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:27 pm Did I misread the op? I thought mafia gets 6 players and 2 prs?

Mafia gets 8 drafts, at most 6 of which can be used to recruit mafia members.

So there could be 4 goons + 2 prs? In a 15er? Oof that's harsh.

I mean 6 wolves whereof 2 are prs are >>>> than 4 pr wolves

@Sabiplz did you think about the fact that there were ITAs before you started to push me this SoD, or no?

Wisdom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:56 pm I mean 6 wolves whereof 2 are prs are >>>> than 4 pr wolves

I'm assuming there were some roles/mechanics up for grabs that make this not such an obvious inequality.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:56 pm @Sabiplz did you think about the fact that there were ITAs before you started to push me this SoD, or no?

No. I'm saving my shot for ita2. I didn't even know there were ita. I had my post ready for when HK flipped and I reread eod. Nice try tho with the bad faith push

The first ITA window is open, and will remain open for about an hour!

Why are there ita in a non mash game?

I just read through the opening and I think ita is one of the "mechanics" that could be picked.

I also think Sabi is town.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:00 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:56 pm @Sabiplz did you think about the fact that there were ITAs before you started to push me this SoD, or no?

No. I'm saving my shot for ita2. I didn't even know there were ita. I had my post ready for when HK flipped and I reread eod. Nice try tho with the bad faith push

I don't care about your shot. I'm curious if you considered the potential ramifications of making a push early on today after you read the SoD post.

Anyway let's do this.
Get dead get out of the thread [Alison], @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Sorry if wrong >_>

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:04 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:00 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:56 pm @Sabiplz did you think about the fact that there were ITAs before you started to push me this SoD, or no?

No. I'm saving my shot for ita2. I didn't even know there were ita. I had my post ready for when HK flipped and I reread eod. Nice try tho with the bad faith push

I don't care about your shot. I'm curious if you considered the potential ramifications of making a push early on today after you read the SoD post.

Once again no. I didn't think anyone would listen to me to be quite frank. All I want is to find scum and you outted during eod.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:11 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:04 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:00 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:56 pm @Sabiplz did you think about the fact that there were ITAs before you started to push me this SoD, or no?

No. I'm saving my shot for ita2. I didn't even know there were ita. I had my post ready for when HK flipped and I reread eod. Nice try tho with the bad faith push

I don't care about your shot. I'm curious if you considered the potential ramifications of making a push early on today after you read the SoD post.

Once again no. I didn't think anyone would listen to me to be quite frank. All I want is to find scum and you outted during eod.

Hmm... okay. I'll think on it.