Severance [Evening Four]

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Town Core

Dubz
WWA
Bereft

Begrudgingly Leetic

Why Bereft?

Because Bereft is not doing anything that will accomplish anything except getting him unnecessary attention and push pushback and that's town

[leetic]

yes I’ve given some of them

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

Here's the difference: I only call out actual fluff, while you for some reason think that GTH reads are "fluff"

You literally made GTH reads on two FLUFFPOSTS. I still don't understand how you don't see why that's just silly. I didn't say your reads were fluff, I said they were fake. And I said that the posts you were reading were fluff. Get it right.

Why can't you make reads based on fluffposts?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ok actually if the Schweppes meta isn’t 0-post or rwstfo I don’t really get the discussion about outting


But it’s also a reasonably outed alt (source I did 10 seconds of research into Schweppes meta and saw it)

[WindwardAway]

abbie have u read any of this game while being sober

Nope. I'm debating if I want to.

You don't want to

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Bold of you to assume that me knowing that someone is Schweppes would impact my reads. I have no reads. Besides, I do not know who Schweppes is.

Got any actual thoughts for us?

yes I’ve given some of them

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

Yes it is

It's just one you don't like

So then I guess not having reads is a read and not having hobbies is a hobby

If you try everything in your might to not have a hobby, then yes, you've made not having a hobby into a hobby.

True and based

[leetic]

Town Core

Dubz
WWA
Bereft

Begrudgingly Leetic

Why Bereft?

Because Bereft is not doing anything that will accomplish anything except getting him unnecessary attention and push pushback and that's town

So is the argument "too wolfy to be a wolf"?

[WindwardAway]

Ok actually if the Schweppes meta isn’t 0-post or rwstfo I don’t really get the discussion about outting


But it’s also a reasonably outed alt (source I did 10 seconds of research into Schweppes meta and saw it)

Someone outs Schweppes every single time he alts so tbh there was no way he'd escape a meta read if there's a solid one

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

yes I’ve given some of them

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

They weren't.

I'm scared of Rans opener tho

Beeg scary

[Gira]

tsp kinda scummy

[robyn]

yes I’ve given some of them

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

they’re louder than you, as am i, gotta deal with it because you’ll get nothing by arguing with leetic. just play your game and understand that openly contradicting yourself is something i did in the flipless game and it’s something they will do too, just gotta deal

[WindwardAway]

Town Core

Dubz
WWA
Bereft

Begrudgingly Leetic

Why Bereft?

Because Bereft is not doing anything that will accomplish anything except getting him unnecessary attention and push pushback and that's town

Has he been getting unnecessary attention?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

abbie have u read any of this game while being sober

Nope. I'm debating if I want to.

You don't want to

Well luckily I'm planning to be drunk for like 4 days straight

[leetic]

tsp kinda scummy

Do elaborate.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Town Core

Dubz
WWA
Bereft

Begrudgingly Leetic

Why Bereft?

Because Bereft is not doing anything that will accomplish anything except getting him unnecessary attention and push pushback and that's town

So is the argument "too wolfy to be a wolf"?

No TWTBAW literally doesn't exist

The argument is what I said

[WindwardAway]

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

They weren't.

I'm scared of Rans opener tho

Beeg scary

What the fuck is the definition of a fluffpost, am I living on another planet??

[robyn]

Ok actually if the Schweppes meta isn’t 0-post or rwstfo I don’t really get the discussion about outting


But it’s also a reasonably outed alt (source I did 10 seconds of research into Schweppes meta and saw it)

Someone outs Schweppes every single time he alts so tbh there was no way he'd escape a meta read if there's a solid one

someone goes by my name ftr, every time actually

[leetic]

yes I’ve given some of them

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

There's a good chance they would have opened differently under a different alignment. Remember, openers from wolves are usually planned, and this sometimes holds for townies as well.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ran will be outed by results and thread position by day 3 at the latest and this is a 27 player game so I’m just not worried

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Town Core

Dubz
WWA
Bereft

Begrudgingly Leetic

Why Bereft?

Because Bereft is not doing anything that will accomplish anything except getting him unnecessary attention and push pushback and that's town

Has he been getting unnecessary attention?

Yes

[Gira]

tsp kinda scummy

Do elaborate.

the whole fixation on the schweppes alt thing is like

he's putting a lot of attention to it across several posts but i don't see why he cares so much about it or why it should matter. comes across as preoccupying himself with something to talk about that isn't actually related to figuring out alignments

[TonyStarkPrime]

Uh GTH that’s the wolf of that cluster

[WindwardAway]

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

they’re louder than you, as am i, gotta deal with it because you’ll get nothing by arguing with leetic. just play your game and understand that openly contradicting yourself is something i did in the flipless game and it’s something they will do too, just gotta deal

I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean but I can be very loud if I want to be
This probably isn't the right time for it, though, and tbh I'm thinking I should actually just stop caring and shut up about it until endgame if I'm alive

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

They weren't.

I'm scared of Rans opener tho

Beeg scary

What the fuck is the definition of a fluffpost, am I living on another planet??

Read my iso

I'm told that all I do is fluffeven when I make reads

[leetic]

Town Core

Dubz
WWA
Bereft

Begrudgingly Leetic

Why Bereft?

Because Bereft is not doing anything that will accomplish anything except getting him unnecessary attention and push pushback and that's town

So is the argument "too wolfy to be a wolf"?

No TWTBAW literally doesn't exist

The argument is what I said

"He's doing things that make him get unnecessary attention by looking wolfy, wolves would never do this" what else is there to that argument?

[TonyStarkPrime]

tsp kinda scummy

Do elaborate.

the whole fixation on the schweppes alt thing is like

he's putting a lot of attention to it across several posts but i don't see why he cares so much about it or why it should matter. comes across as preoccupying himself with something to talk about that isn't actually related to figuring out alignments

Robyn promised to write 700 words about it, now that’s fixation

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

There's a good chance they would have opened differently under a different alignment. Remember, openers from wolves are usually planned, and this sometimes holds for townies as well.

Openers from wolfs are planned?

Holy fuck I've been wolfing wrong this whole time

[WindwardAway]

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

There's a good chance they would have opened differently under a different alignment. Remember, openers from wolves are usually planned, and this sometimes holds for townies as well.

I've never planned an opener in my life and yet I get scumread every single D1 for my opener because "it looks awkward/stiff/unnatural/badly planned" so no, I don't really buy that argument.

[leetic]

Ran will be outed by results and thread position by day 3 at the latest and this is a 27 player game so I’m just not worried

I don't give a rat's ass about D3, I want to know who you find wolfy now

[WindwardAway]

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

There's a good chance they would have opened differently under a different alignment. Remember, openers from wolves are usually planned, and this sometimes holds for townies as well.

Openers from wolfs are planned?

Holy fuck I've been wolfing wrong this whole time

Same

[TonyStarkPrime]

Mostly though I just want to know why other people seem to care

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Town Core

Dubz
WWA
Bereft

Begrudgingly Leetic

Why Bereft?

Because Bereft is not doing anything that will accomplish anything except getting him unnecessary attention and push pushback and that's town

So is the argument "too wolfy to be a wolf"?

No TWTBAW literally doesn't exist

The argument is what I said

"He's doing things that make him get unnecessary attention by looking wolfy, wolves would never do this" what else is there to that argument?

That's not what I said

[robyn]

tsp kinda scummy

Do elaborate.

the whole fixation on the schweppes alt thing is like

he's putting a lot of attention to it across several posts but i don't see why he cares so much about it or why it should matter. comes across as preoccupying himself with something to talk about that isn't actually related to figuring out alignments

Robyn promised to write 700 words about it, now that’s fixation

that’s not what i was gonna write about

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

There's a good chance they would have opened differently under a different alignment. Remember, openers from wolves are usually planned, and this sometimes holds for townies as well.

Openers from wolfs are planned?

Holy fuck I've been wolfing wrong this whole time

Same

Maybe that's why my record as wolf is so fire

[robyn]

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

they’re louder than you, as am i, gotta deal with it because you’ll get nothing by arguing with leetic. just play your game and understand that openly contradicting yourself is something i did in the flipless game and it’s something they will do too, just gotta deal

I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean but I can be very loud if I want to be
This probably isn't the right time for it, though, and tbh I'm thinking I should actually just stop caring and shut up about it until endgame if I'm alive

classic robyn post

i’ll rephrase when i’m home

[leetic]

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

There's a good chance they would have opened differently under a different alignment. Remember, openers from wolves are usually planned, and this sometimes holds for townies as well.

Openers from wolfs are planned?

Holy fuck I've been wolfing wrong this whole time

To varying extents but almost always yes. At the very least, wolves are going to think about how they enter the thread.

[WindwardAway]

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

They weren't.

I'm scared of Rans opener tho

Beeg scary

What the fuck is the definition of a fluffpost, am I living on another planet??

Read my iso

I'm told that all I do is fluffeven when I make reads

Ok tbf I did think you were mostly fluffing last game when you were giving reads
I haven't gotten that impression this time, though
And not sure why I got it last game, either, because I did eventually come around and see your effort

[TonyStarkPrime]

tsp kinda scummy

Do elaborate.

the whole fixation on the schweppes alt thing is like

he's putting a lot of attention to it across several posts but i don't see why he cares so much about it or why it should matter. comes across as preoccupying himself with something to talk about that isn't actually related to figuring out alignments

Robyn promised to write 700 words about it, now that’s fixation

that’s not what i was gonna write about

Well I guess I never claimed to be good at reading

[WindwardAway]

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

There's a good chance they would have opened differently under a different alignment. Remember, openers from wolves are usually planned, and this sometimes holds for townies as well.

Openers from wolfs are planned?

Holy fuck I've been wolfing wrong this whole time

To varying extents but almost always yes. At the very least, wolves are going to think about how they enter the thread.

Still disagree from personal experience
But maybe you're right about the majority of wolves, and I just haven't asked the majority of wolves how they plan their openers

[tedxtr]

i think i know who i wanna lunch already

oh boay :/

[TonyStarkPrime]

Wow the Schweppes thing isn’t even in the same post I really am losing iy

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

There's a good chance they would have opened differently under a different alignment. Remember, openers from wolves are usually planned, and this sometimes holds for townies as well.

Openers from wolfs are planned?

Holy fuck I've been wolfing wrong this whole time

To varying extents but almost always yes. At the very least, wolves are going to think about how they enter the thread.

I've never seen a wolf who I've personally wolfed with plan an opener

[leetic]

Just to clear it up, "planning" doesn't necessarily mean wolves put their openers in the wolfchat and consult with other wolves before posting, although that happens sometimes too. It's more thinking "how do I open without attracting too much attention/while setting up future mislynches/while providing slank cover so I'm not expected to contribute/etc." before they post

[WindwardAway]

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

There's a good chance they would have opened differently under a different alignment. Remember, openers from wolves are usually planned, and this sometimes holds for townies as well.

Openers from wolfs are planned?

Holy fuck I've been wolfing wrong this whole time

To varying extents but almost always yes. At the very least, wolves are going to think about how they enter the thread.

I've never seen a wolf who I've personally wolfed with plan an opener

There was a time where I gave zero thought to my opener as a wolf and accidentally said almost the exact same thing as a town player and immediately got tunnelled by them for "trying to blend in" lol
I mean, yeah I was a wolf, CFTWR, but I never would've planned that lmao.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

They weren't.

I'm scared of Rans opener tho

Beeg scary

What the fuck is the definition of a fluffpost, am I living on another planet??

Read my iso

I'm told that all I do is fluffeven when I make reads

Ok tbf I did think you were mostly fluffing last game when you were giving reads
I haven't gotten that impression this time, though
And not sure why I got it last game, either, because I did eventually come around and see your effort

It happens a lot I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

Some people who play with me a lot can like understand my style enough to see what my effort is and my worth but a lot of reactions to me is

She's lazy she fluff she hyper post she useless

Not saying you thought that I just get it a lot.

I'm trying to change my style and how I play though... at least in some ways

[leetic]

This is a pointless discussion, since knowledge of your (and others', if you're a wolf) alignment will inevitably be reflected in your posts regardless of whether you want to or not

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

i think i know who i wanna lunch already

oh boay :/

Is it me

[WindwardAway]

Just to clear it up, "planning" doesn't necessarily mean wolves put their openers in the wolfchat and consult with other wolves before posting, although that happens sometimes too. It's more thinking "how do I open without attracting too much attention/while setting up future mislynches/while providing slank cover so I'm not expected to contribute/etc." before they post

I completely disregard any thought of how much attention any of my posts will get. I know I make weird posts sometimes so I just deal with it. No use in being overly worried about it as a wolf if I fuck up just as often as town.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Just to clear it up, "planning" doesn't necessarily mean wolves put their openers in the wolfchat and consult with other wolves before posting, although that happens sometimes too. It's more thinking "how do I open without attracting too much attention/while setting up future mislynches/while providing slank cover so I'm not expected to contribute/etc." before they post

Still not an experience I've had or seen

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

There's a good chance they would have opened differently under a different alignment. Remember, openers from wolves are usually planned, and this sometimes holds for townies as well.

Openers from wolfs are planned?

Holy fuck I've been wolfing wrong this whole time

To varying extents but almost always yes. At the very least, wolves are going to think about how they enter the thread.

I've never seen a wolf who I've personally wolfed with plan an opener

There was a time where I gave zero thought to my opener as a wolf and accidentally said almost the exact same thing as a town player and immediately got tunnelled by them for "trying to blend in" lol
I mean, yeah I was a wolf, CFTWR, but I never would've planned that lmao.

That's actually hilarious lol

[WindwardAway]

This is a pointless discussion, since knowledge of your (and others', if you're a wolf) alignment will inevitably be reflected in your posts regardless of whether you want to or not

Yeah, and my point is, reading people off of whether their openers look planned or not really isn't alignment indicative for everyone.