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Not till F3Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:17 pmyou really won't consider LC?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:52 pm Honestly game plan is simply kill the AFKs if game doesn't end solve between us in F3
because I think it's just LC and I'm multitabling 3 games so I don't want to drag it out another day if we don't need to
distance vote Abi lock w (fr though I think this is v/w but wouldn't stake my life on it or antying like that)
maybe a good look depending on where lemonfairy takes thisLemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:29 pmwow cannoticale is even more bold
says nothing and places a vote immediately
is the lack of word count concerning? is the vote concerning?
mayhaps
might call this a mindmeld since I'm reading it as "cannot didn't vote Abi as w/w right"Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:46 am thinking about how possible it is for cannot to have voted Abi so early to distance
Abi is just town
She is so town this is literally where I am at. Maybe I'm calling her town to easily but she's arriving right where I think town should be when no one besides Lemon was really doing anything yet☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:40 pm Wowee Lemon is top town I think they've kept a consistent albeit incorrect worldview and are trying to Jumpstart the game
leaning this as being probably not w/w. Cannoticale just not responding to their teammate also feels like something that would have caused a prod in wolf chat if the team is cannot/abi as well
she is so town. This isn't TMI either since Lemon was going for Abi when it was Lemon/Abi/Cannot
@Lemonfairy can you talk to me about why you felt this was town indicative? I felt the same but I also want you to explain it in your own words how you felt at the timeLemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:42 pmthat read switch up on me felt very abrupt☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:40 pm Wowee Lemon is top town I think they've kept a consistent albeit incorrect worldview and are trying to Jumpstart the game
but also probably town indicative
kinda weird logic and also want this explained. Just seems like early game banter that comes from both factionsLemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:47 pmidk if I'm reading too much into things but this feels a bit pockety?
real and I like itLemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:03 pm really liking SVS's posts
feels qualitatively different from last game's
hope I'm not getting pocketed again
Writing this when i don't know how soon EOD was after this but I think that Lemon if wolf if trapping herself on the Cannot wagon since I don't see a Roxy wagon as particularly likely to organically formLemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:30 pmread changedprobably the most suspicious out of everyone so far
I think with Roxy, I like to imagine I'd be able to get a better read on with more posts if I'm wrong (or I could sheep someone else's read there)
Well Long con either thinks that Wilgy is town, or it's dodging the question about "hey is this AI or not"Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:47 pmI think that a Town member should do their best to appear Town, not to be inscrutable.Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:21 pmyou think it's intentional?
then do you think it's bad intentional or NAI intentional?
also think that this vote might be TMI and bussing his teammate. The quote that he's posting is not AI imo and ideally Cannoticale would be expected to be replaced?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:49 pmThat kind of thing engenders the most regret when a Wolf team is counting on you.Cannoticale wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:44 pm I made a big mistake and don't really have the time to be invested into this game.
[VOTE: Connaticale] aubergine
lmaoLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:01 pm I know that voting Cannoticale for the reason I did is sort of cheap, but it's one of the first things I thought of, and it's based on experience. You can be Town in a game in which you don't really have time, and skate by, and be like "yeah sorry everyone", but in a 7-2 game as a Wolf, it becomes more of an issue. Is this way too angleshooty, and I should be like a lawyer where the judge has disacarded certain evidence?
eh maybe my prior thing is wrong bc cannot is trying to post but I also think that it's pretty visible from the state of the thread that Cannoticale was going down so, it just looks like a bus vote to meCannoticale wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am In my opinion, Roxy looks significantly better than the last game I played in due to generally being more active.
Lemonfairy also seems okay but they have moments where they seem awkward in thread posting. I'll provide more examples in a moment.
Long Con has the conviction of a player who believes that they just caught something damning (which is farther reflected in their posts).
Princess Abigail seems to not really care what other people think about her, since her posting is very carefree and open, although she asks questions which makes it seem like she does indeed care.
strongly disagree that this post spews LC town, can totally see that as just a justification to townread their teammate and hope that the heat dies down since if it does they only really have 2 town votes on them at this point (if LC w). That read can totally come from a wolf, especially a newer one that wants a reason to townread her teammate. That said Lemonfairy might as well be an IC since if they are a wolf they are just closing off pathways to potential town yeets left and rightLemonfairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 9:09 amI have also heard a snippet of Roxy not being active in a wolf game but I believe it is more NAI than AICannoticale wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am In my opinion, Roxy looks significantly better than the last game I played in due to generally being more active.
Lemonfairy also seems okay but they have moments where they seem awkward in thread posting. I'll provide more examples in a moment.
Long Con has the conviction of a player who believes that they just caught something damning (which is farther reflected in their posts).
Princess Abigail seems to not really care what other people think about her, since her posting is very carefree and open, although she asks questions which makes it seem like she does indeed care.
do you think "awkward" posting is scum indicative?
if Cannot is wolf, I think this post spewed Long Con as town
this feels too waffly for my taste... although now that I read it again...
I think what you said - that Abi doesn't care about what other people think about her and that she cares about the game - are not conflicting statements
but the way you worded it - she does indeed care - reads like you're backing out of the initial "not care" stance
if I read more into it, it comes off as a bit ingenuous because the content of your post suggests a townread but your wording suggests you don't want to give that townread
I think not voting Cannot isn't what wolf Abi does in this situation, she probably wants the cred and there is no hope of LC going over when Lemon is calling LC spewed, and rightfully calling out LC's post as wolfy while maintaining that both of them are sus is good.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:19 amLCs rationale was bad and wolfyS~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:10 amIt just feels like she doesn’t believe it herself to meLemonfairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 9:53 am omg I really like SVS's post on Cannot
even if she thinks we might be partnered and distancing
Also I’m somewhat influenced by my own play; that is what I do when I’m bad a lot. I did it in Lasso, I spent a good chunk of the game making a weak case on Scotty, my teammate, but not trying too hard to get him yeeted. So when I was yeeted, it made him look like gold.
I said you feel town to me, but I had to say how Cannots post made me feel because that was the feel it gave me. If she is bad, there could be other reasons for an insincere case.
That’s why I qualified it with imma judge you on you.
And Abbi, not sure what you mean?
Kill wolfy people
But cannot is not someone I town read either so I don't mind following the consensus
Maybe I will just call Cannot/LC a diff check and move on wheee
kinda think that falcon would bus here if wolf but i actually don't know him at all and don't have any vibes from him
Ok decided to take a look at the VC again
I will say that voting Cannot looks good for Lemon especially, but I don't like LC's vote since Abi and SVS had basically telegraphed future votes onto cannot anyway (even though abi didn't end up voting Cannot)Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:10 pm DarlingMonroe and falcon showed up and were cool, but their votes aren't that great-looking on the poll. falcon joined Wilgy on Wilgy, making the only path to saving Cannoticale possible. DM voted on a falcon vanity wagon maybe? Abigail, Roxy, Wilgy all off and frolicking unconsolidated. Not easy to track the last Wolf that way, I guess.
yeah it's player salad, the partner is youLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:17 pm I don't think it's Lemonfairy, based on Cannoticale's posts. Cannoticale put the most shade on Lemonfairy.
This is Player Salad. Cannoticale mentioned their partner here. It's not me or Lemon.Cannoticale wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am In my opinion, Roxy looks significantly better than the last game I played in due to generally being more active.
Lemonfairy also seems okay but they have moments where they seem awkward in thread posting. I'll provide more examples in a moment.
Long Con has the conviction of a player who believes that they just caught something damning (which is farther reflected in their posts).
Princess Abigail seems to not really care what other people think about her, since her posting is very carefree and open, although she asks questions which makes it seem like she does indeed care.
I was having some doubts about Roxy's genuineness just before EoD. So that makes her an easy choice. Abbi tried to make me into the Wolf after I told my reason for suspecting Cannoticale, so she might also be the partner.
[VOTE: Abigail] aubergine
actually quoting this one to say wolves dont box themselves inLemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 11:57 pm I would go so far as to say that I will veto an Abi elim today
chainsaw on what looks like two villagersLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 12:22 amI was willing to hammer Roxy and Abbi in whatever order it took. I'm sure that Cannot's post contains their partner because that's how it works in my experience. I'm open to other cases, but this is what I see in Cannot's post.Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 11:28 pmhow are you sure that Cannot's post contains a wolf?
how are you sure it's not Roxy but Abi?
Your other tangent about me being the last Wolf is not correct.
how did you get to Roxy > Abi @Long Con ? you were voting Abi at the start of day and moved to Roxy not because you were convinced, but to assent to Lemon shielding Abi
Want to call this out as frankly I feel that his Roxy post the previous day could have just been getting ready for the next day as wolf but idk I could be tunneledLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 4:48 pmI am not pushing for your elim based on Can's posts saying you are playing different. If they said that, I didn't commit it to long-term memory because it would be meaningless to me.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 2:50 pm@Long Con I have thought you town from the beginning of this game. Your case on Cann was an LC town style thing. I do not think you would bus a member d 1 it is just not the OG way. It is also not very LC. After playing so many games together I am still shocked you can never find me as town. One of these days - maybe but it does not look like it will happen today as you are pushing for my elim based on Can's posts stating I was playing different than last game. For me is was a shit read post. From a baddie who knew they were going down. How silly (I mean that in a nice way)not to read me yourself but instead just use a baddie post to point to me and say - see - she is bad. Like wow I do expect more from you than you ever give.
Cannoticale named four players in one post, and it is a classic tell for a baddie to do so. You are more than familiar with the term Player Salad, which is the tell I referenced when declaring you as a Wolf.
That you would so grossly misrepresent my stated reason for voting you indicates that you are not reading in order to understand and solve, you are reading in order to be able to post the right words to survive.
The same accusation applies to the fact that you ignored my EoD post about you, which had reasons to call you a Wolf. You present my suspicion as believing Cannoticale's words against you, and ignore what was actually said before the yeet:
Furthermore, that accusation is consistent with the more recent one: you read Abigail's post in order to pocket her, not to understand and solve, and this is revealed by what I consider a skim-read interpretation of her actual meaning. Reading in order to figure out how to survive, not to understand and solve.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:33 pmRoxy says she feels the same, in that she agrees with Abigail not liking a vote cast for Lemon.
I thought Abigail was saying she did not like the Wilgy Shtick and what it entailed.
Two very different interpretations, and I'm inclined to feel that, if I'm right, then Roxy could be a Wolf who is trying to pocket Abigail through agreement.
yo abi why is my slot wolfier than falcons
Abi could I get a ranking ofthe players in this game towniest to wolfiest?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:20 pmNot till F3Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:17 pmyou really won't consider LC?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:52 pm Honestly game plan is simply kill the AFKs if game doesn't end solve between us in F3
if you believe it's misinfo vote me thenLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:30 pm Can't believe Wilgy went. I thought I'd be voting him.
I haven't read whatever misinformation Dolby is lathering on, but it's ridiculous to consider me the Wolf here. Also can't believe it wasn't Roxy.
But, go ahead and yeet me if you believe whatever is being trumped up here. Looks like a lot of energy will be needed to refute these past fifty posts, so it might take some time, if I feel up to it.
It ain't me.
What are you even talking about. My suspicion of Roxy was from her shallow-read misunderstandings of the PA post, and then later her response to my post. She said that I voted her for a completely different reason that she made up and then decried. Finally, she tried to guilt trip me out with "known me for years but can never read me" and when I checked on that it was false.
Why are you like this? Ok, fine, you're obviously the last Wolf. Don't make me say the obvious reason why.Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:35 pmif you believe it's misinfo vote me thenLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:30 pm Can't believe Wilgy went. I thought I'd be voting him.
I haven't read whatever misinformation Dolby is lathering on, but it's ridiculous to consider me the Wolf here. Also can't believe it wasn't Roxy.
But, go ahead and yeet me if you believe whatever is being trumped up here. Looks like a lot of energy will be needed to refute these past fifty posts, so it might take some time, if I feel up to it.
It ain't me.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Why do you think it's me? Do you think my case against Roxy was fake? It didn't feel fake when I was saying it, it felt like Roxy was lying about me. I don't know why she did that, but I thought there was only one evident reason. I was wrong. I don't see how I have acted like a Wolf at all, and I don't understand this jump.Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:51 pmbecause I think it's just LC and I'm multitabling 3 games so I don't want to drag it out another day if we don't need to
tbh I kinda forgot about the Roxy pocketing Abbi through agreement point, however, a lot of how you interacted with Roxy looks like you were hammering a nailLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:35 pmWhat are you even talking about. My suspicion of Roxy was from her shallow-read misunderstandings of the PA post, and then later her response to my post. She said that I voted her for a completely different reason that she made up and then decried. Finally, she tried to guilt trip me out with "known me for years but can never read me" and when I checked on that it was false.
There isn't any "refutation" going on in any of that that I'm "only caring about", so if this kind of distasteful misrepresentation of my posts is what I have to look forward to, then I need another drink.
Combination of her posts didn't make me suspect her, and Lemon felt she was Town I think, which does affect my opinion, and most of all I was so damn sure Roxy was a hit. Like, I told my wife about the reasons like I'm some Mafia pro detective. Like it was a done deal.
It can be argued that this is not the post of a Wolf that decides to kill Wilgy last night.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:39 am I actually think cannot avoided mentioning their teammate specifically and intentionally and I think my god cop bad cop theory is right
I think I'm secretly goated and it really was just cannot wilgy
I will follow consensus if it lands on another slot though
crazy that we're voting each other when we have the exact same townreads LOL
Okay, I see where this is going, and I want to say that this day ending with everyone voting falcon would be SUPER lame because it is. I don't need to elaborate. But if we don't, then he's in the final 3. I'd rather it just be you.
I have my reasons for how I got to them being town and you being wolf outlined pretty extensivelyLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:09 pm Except, you know, you were just *saying* it, and I was coming with a reason I just found in order to *back it up*. Like, I'm trying to clear the waters with facts, and your endorsement of Abbi was lacking that. Just wanted to point out the difference, and it's because I *am* Town and I am still interested in figuring this out.
I'm not voting Falcon and was not attempting to move thereLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:11 pmOkay, I see where this is going, and I want to say that this day ending with everyone voting falcon would be SUPER lame because it is. I don't need to elaborate. But if we don't, then he's in the final 3. I'd rather it just be you.
I mean, I think I just told why I went Roxy over Abbi as thoroughly as I could just a few posts ago. I didn't know at the time that Lemon, Abbi, and I would have such thread domination at that time, so "easier" is only hindsight in that Roxy didn't show up until much later. And yes, Roxy support didn't do anything to move off her, but my reasons for suspecting her are pretty well-documented, and peer pressure probably didn't play a huge part all in all.Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:12 pmI have my reasons for how I got to them being town and you being wolf outlined pretty extensivelyLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:09 pm Except, you know, you were just *saying* it, and I was coming with a reason I just found in order to *back it up*. Like, I'm trying to clear the waters with facts, and your endorsement of Abbi was lacking that. Just wanted to point out the difference, and it's because I *am* Town and I am still interested in figuring this out.
I think you got to Abi v on Day Two because it was easier for you to push Roxy and not go against Lemon, and Roxy was where more support was beginning to move towards anyawy
How did I "basically shade" everyone. I read my post again, and the conclusion clearly says "Not easy to track the last Wolf that way, I guess". As in, I didn't come up with any reason good enough to say "that's the Wolf", so I should try something else. Why would you say this about me when the post says the opposite?Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:53 pm Ok decided to take a look at the VC again
No one is going to tie or switch to the Wilgy wagon that's pretty much a wolf claim
I think vanities after Falcon's Wilgy vote would look not great admitidly... but no votes happened after that vote
imma be real this was 100% prompted by the below post from LC which basically shaded everyone who wasn't on the Cannot wagon
I will say that voting Cannot looks good for Lemon especially, but I don't like LC's vote since Abi and SVS had basically telegraphed future votes onto cannot anyway (even though abi didn't end up voting Cannot)Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:10 pm DarlingMonroe and falcon showed up and were cool, but their votes aren't that great-looking on the poll. falcon joined Wilgy on Wilgy, making the only path to saving Cannoticale possible. DM voted on a falcon vanity wagon maybe? Abigail, Roxy, Wilgy all off and frolicking unconsolidated. Not easy to track the last Wolf that way, I guess.
No way I will ever bus my teammate in this situation. Cannoticale would have been replaced and that replacement would have had some leeway to stretch their legs, and that would have been far superior. The idea that apologizing as something incriminating would not have entered the thread. I don't even believe that that kind of bussing is worthwhile, and frankly the situation I'm in now is evidence of it. It's just not me.Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:45 pmalso think that this vote might be TMI and bussing his teammate. The quote that he's posting is not AI imo and ideally Cannoticale would be expected to be replaced?Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:49 pmThat kind of thing engenders the most regret when a Wolf team is counting on you.Cannoticale wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:44 pm I made a big mistake and don't really have the time to be invested into this game.
[VOTE: Connaticale] aubergine
Le sighhhhDolby wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:27 pmAbi could I get a ranking ofthe players in this game towniest to wolfiest?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:20 pmNot till F3Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:17 pmyou really won't consider LC?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:52 pm Honestly game plan is simply kill the AFKs if game doesn't end solve between us in F3
no it isn't lol
LC it should be pretty obvious from my walls that i did not read a single post before i replaced in
