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Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:24 pm
by Bullzeye
juliets wrote:RIP INH, the way i read an unrecruited police death by Mayhem is that one of the police has been recruited and knew who to target. Though why they didnt just recruit him instead I don't know.
Also welcome back Metalmarsh and good luck with the new baby Nevinera.
One thing I thought about that would support a theory that DH was recruited early is that early on he was not receiving heat from everyone regarding how much his plan resembled llamas early on in the game. If i were recruiting people I wouldn't want someone who is getting a lot of negative attention because as happened, the police are more likely to check that person out and find them to be bad. Again though, as unfurl says, this whole thing is just a theory.
Speaking of the police checking people receiving negative attention, I wonder if they checked llama and found him to be ok. When I put myself in their shoes he would have been one I wanted to check out. Just a thought though, I am not police just trying to think like them.
I think you could be right. The fact that they got a policeman with their very first kill (right?) seems too lucky to be chance to me. I'd suggest the police start targeting themselves at night just in case so they can flush out any potential recruit. If it's true though, I'm kinda jealous of whoever it is, being a double agent is a hell of a lot of fun. I also agree with your thought about recruitments. You wouldn't recruit someone about to be lynched.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:27 pm
by unfurl
So policemen can be recruited

oh I thought they were not able to be recruited, I need to re-read first page again
that sucks for those people with btsc, cause they can not trust eacheitheir
Something I find curious about reading DH is he sort of wanted INH to fight in Delaware city day 3, but then he did miss votting
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 028#p74028
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 028#p74034
I dont like we can not quote things from the places thread so putting the links
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:33 pm
by unfurl
Also something I also find curious about DH, is he was asking Ace (his brother) to go to Penss grove
DharmaHelper
Re: [NIGHT 3] Fight Club Mafia - Delaware City, DE
Aces come to Penns Grove with me ples
so ones wonder if in Day-Night 4 Tyler was at Penns Grove, going back to timmer theory, that tyler had to be in a club to be able to recruit
and DH wanted tyler to recruit his brother ???
But Ace did not vote that period, so he did not travel with DH, and as he was lynched day 5 we know he was a civvie
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:43 pm
by juliets
unfurl, I'm assuming they can be recruited because on the roles page there are two mentions of unrecruited police, and since it specified unrecruited that tells me that the police can be recruited.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:24 pm
by unfurl
Warning!
Im officially obsesed with trying to figure out timmer theory LOL, if DH and tyler moved together at some point
and I thought go back to the last place where DH was before being killed, and here below
first he wanted to go to wilmington, so maybe tyler was there, but when chicago was added during the night, he changed his mind
Re: [DAY 4] Fight Club Mafia - Penns Grove, NJ
Anyone wanna go to maybe, Wilmington with me after this?
Re: [NIGHT 4] Fight Club Mafia - Penns Grove, NJ
As much as I'd love to travel with you Canucklehead, Chicago is just too interesting of an opportunity to pass up.
so perhaps tyler was going to be in "Chicago" and it voted for that choice
so lets look who voted to visit Chicago during Night 4
NIGHT 4
Check out the fight club in Chicago, IL
[POLLS] Fight Club Mafia - Wilmington, DE
Keterman
DisgruntledPorcupine 2.0
Bullzeye
Kylemii
Dom
Fight Club Mafia - Delaware City, DE
No votes
Fight Club Mafia - New Castle, DE
Mongoose - Civilian -- Lynched - Day 5
Mister Rearranger
Fight Club Mafia - Penns Grove, NJ
DharmaHelper - Project Mayhem Member - Civilian
Sorsha
Russtifinko
johns2jj - Civilian -- Lynched - Day 5
---
Would it be so easy to figure out who is Tyler?
that leaves 8 possible people

Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:22 pm
by unfurl
Did everyone died or are silenced?
where is the paranoia people!!!

I signed up for that

Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:32 pm
by thellama73
I don't think DP 2.0 is likely to be Tyler, since he replaced an inactive player. We know Tyler was active in the first half of the game, since he recruited.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:41 pm
by unfurl
Fair point about DP!
haha, i can not help to notice Bullz name is among the people wanted to go to chicago,
as I voted for the previous period
and then people say they dont see a connection bewteen him and DH

Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:45 pm
by unfurl
I hope to see more input, but I has to go now, and will not be online until tomorrow,
so hopefully there are things to read, instead of me breaking my head from thinking too hard
and maybe then I can complain there is too much too read! :P
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:40 pm
by birdwithteeth11
unfurl wrote:Warning!
Im officially obsesed with trying to figure out timmer theory LOL, if DH and tyler moved together at some point
and I thought go back to the last place where DH was before being killed, and here below
first he wanted to go to wilmington, so maybe tyler was there, but when chicago was added during the night, he changed his mind
Re: [DAY 4] Fight Club Mafia - Penns Grove, NJ
Anyone wanna go to maybe, Wilmington with me after this?
Re: [NIGHT 4] Fight Club Mafia - Penns Grove, NJ
As much as I'd love to travel with you Canucklehead, Chicago is just too interesting of an opportunity to pass up.
so perhaps tyler was going to be in "Chicago" and it voted for that choice
so lets look who voted to visit Chicago during Night 4
NIGHT 4
Check out the fight club in Chicago, IL
[POLLS] Fight Club Mafia - Wilmington, DE
Keterman
DisgruntledPorcupine 2.0
Bullzeye
Kylemii
Dom
Fight Club Mafia - Delaware City, DE
No votes
Fight Club Mafia - New Castle, DE
Mongoose - Civilian -- Lynched - Day 5
Mister Rearranger
Fight Club Mafia - Penns Grove, NJ
DharmaHelper - Project Mayhem Member - Civilian
Sorsha
Russtifinko
johns2jj - Civilian -- Lynched - Day 5
---
Would it be so easy to figure out who is Tyler?
that leaves 8 possible people

Definitely interesting. But how would we know that Tyler had voted to go to Chicago? Either I missed something in your theory, or that's a wild guess.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:41 pm
by birdwithteeth11
Also, with the unrecruited policeman thing with INH, I think it's referring to the fact that the police can be recruited to Project Mayhem.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:59 pm
by Sorsha
juliets wrote:RIP INH, the way i read an unrecruited police death by Mayhem is that one of the police has been recruited and knew who to target. Though why they didnt just recruit him instead I don't know.
I got the impression from MPs post at the start of the combined thread (day 5) that recruiting for project mayhem was over?
MovingPictures07 wrote:
It is now Day 5. The game has entered its true phase. All roles have been updated appropriately.
All unrecruited Civilians are no longer independent. They are aligned with "Narrator" and must need Tyler Durden dead to win.
That's how I interpreted this anyway.
MP-Can Tyler still recruit players to Project Mayhem?
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:04 pm
by Bullzeye
unfurl wrote:Fair point about DP!
haha, i can not help to notice Bullz name is among the people wanted to go to chicago,
as I voted for the previous period
and then people say they dont see a connection bewteen him and DH

Of course I voted to go to Chicago. It was an entirely new place and I assumed everyone would be drawn there. Go read my posts, I said on the last night in Wilmington I thought that since a lot of people would presumably vote for the new place that Chicago would be a good place for discussion and building theories. How was I to know where DH had voted? We were in separate threads. There's no connection between me and him just a few minor interactions given more importance than they deserve. I've already established that he didn't help me get my fight on day two in any way and nor have I defended him against any accusers while they were present in the same thread.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:51 pm
by a2thezebra
Bullzeye wrote:unfurl wrote:Fair point about DP!
haha, i can not help to notice Bullz name is among the people wanted to go to chicago,
as I voted for the previous period
and then people say they dont see a connection bewteen him and DH

Of course I voted to go to Chicago. It was an entirely new place and I assumed everyone would be drawn there. Go read my posts, I said on the last night in Wilmington I thought that since a lot of people would presumably vote for the new place that Chicago would be a good place for discussion and building theories. How was I to know where DH had voted? We were in separate threads. There's no connection between me and him just a few minor interactions given more importance than they deserve. I've already established that he didn't help me get my fight on day two in any way and nor have I defended him against any accusers while they were present in the same thread.
Same here. And although it goes against the pet theory at the moment, I'm more weary of those who
didn't vote Chicago. A new city to check out and they didn't vote for it? Why the lack of curiosity? Do they already know what the rest of us were going to find out?
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:20 pm
by DharmaHelper
Can I get rezzed now?
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:31 pm
by S~V~S
Bullzeye wrote:unfurl wrote:Fair point about DP!
haha, i can not help to notice Bullz name is among the people wanted to go to chicago,
as I voted for the previous period
and then people say they dont see a connection bewteen him and DH

Of course I voted to go to Chicago. It was an entirely new place and I assumed everyone would be drawn there. Go read my posts, I said on the last night in Wilmington I thought that since a lot of people would presumably vote for the new place that Chicago would be a good place for discussion and building theories. How was I to know where DH had voted? We were in separate threads. There's no connection between me and him just a few minor interactions given more importance than they deserve. I've already established that he didn't help me get my fight on day two in any way and nor have I defended him against any accusers while they were present in the same thread.
I know I didn't vote for it since i was going back to touch base at DC every other day, and the day Chicago appeared was that day. Although i likely might not have voted it anyhow, it was new and the popular option, and i have always been a contrarian
Unfurls paranoia is full swing, and she comes up with some pretty wicked theories when she is in paranoia mode. Her analysis is interesting, although I still think you sound genuine, faux Bullz sounds more "Aw Gee" than real Bullz.
I will say though, that you did make one remark up there that got my attention~ if you had recruited DH to your team, or had both been recruited to the same team, you would know how he voted via BTS. I still find it highly unlikely that I will vote for you, though.
I liked Timmers list; I am going to comapre to Unfurls list.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:36 pm
by birdwithteeth11
Keterman wrote:Bullzeye wrote:unfurl wrote:Fair point about DP!
haha, i can not help to notice Bullz name is among the people wanted to go to chicago,
as I voted for the previous period
and then people say they dont see a connection bewteen him and DH

Of course I voted to go to Chicago. It was an entirely new place and I assumed everyone would be drawn there. Go read my posts, I said on the last night in Wilmington I thought that since a lot of people would presumably vote for the new place that Chicago would be a good place for discussion and building theories. How was I to know where DH had voted? We were in separate threads. There's no connection between me and him just a few minor interactions given more importance than they deserve. I've already established that he didn't help me get my fight on day two in any way and nor have I defended him against any accusers while they were present in the same thread.
Same here. And although it goes against the pet theory at the moment, I'm more weary of those who
didn't vote Chicago. A new city to check out and they didn't vote for it? Why the lack of curiosity? Do they already know what the rest of us were going to find out?
Personally, I voted for Penn's Grove that day, because it was the only city I hadn't been to yet. By the time I noticed Chicago was a new option, it was too late.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:02 pm
by a2thezebra
...I don't think I buy that.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:08 pm
by birdwithteeth11
Keterman wrote:...I don't think I buy that.
Uhhhh....really? Why not?
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:09 pm
by birdwithteeth11
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Keterman wrote:...I don't think I buy that.
Uhhhh....really? Why not?
Or you could just go look at the respective thread. That would give you your answer.

Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:09 pm
by juliets
Sorsha wrote:juliets wrote:RIP INH, the way i read an unrecruited police death by Mayhem is that one of the police has been recruited and knew who to target. Though why they didnt just recruit him instead I don't know.
I got the impression from MPs post at the start of the combined thread (day 5) that recruiting for project mayhem was over?
MovingPictures07 wrote:
It is now Day 5. The game has entered its true phase. All roles have been updated appropriately.
All unrecruited Civilians are no longer independent. They are aligned with "Narrator" and must need Tyler Durden dead to win.
That's how I interpreted this anyway.
MP-Can Tyler still recruit players to Project Mayhem?
Sorsha, I looked at that same thing and the first thought that occurred to me was that the recruiting was done. But then I thought about this: there were 38 players that began this game. With 38 players you would normally see two mafia teams of 3 with the ability to recruit 1 or 2 teams of 4 and/or a SK. Assuming Tyler started recruiting night 1, he would have had 4+1(Tyler)=5 recruits at the time MP posted that message. That would make 5 baddies. I just don't think 5 baddies are enough in a 38 player game which is what led me to believe he is still able to recruit. Maybe there is some other mechanic at work here and I just don't see the full picture but for now I can't understand how MP would leave the baddies with only 5 (assuming of course DH hadn't died).
I have no idea who I'm going to vote for tomorrow but looking at those lists seems like a good way to me to find a baddie.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:24 pm
by Leamiteo
Keterman wrote:Bullzeye wrote:unfurl wrote:Fair point about DP!
haha, i can not help to notice Bullz name is among the people wanted to go to chicago,
as I voted for the previous period
and then people say they dont see a connection bewteen him and DH

Of course I voted to go to Chicago. It was an entirely new place and I assumed everyone would be drawn there. Go read my posts, I said on the last night in Wilmington I thought that since a lot of people would presumably vote for the new place that Chicago would be a good place for discussion and building theories. How was I to know where DH had voted? We were in separate threads. There's no connection between me and him just a few minor interactions given more importance than they deserve. I've already established that he didn't help me get my fight on day two in any way and nor have I defended him against any accusers while they were present in the same thread.
Same here. And although it goes against the pet theory at the moment,
I'm more weary of those who didn't vote Chicago. A new city to check out and they didn't vote for it? Why the lack of curiosity? Do they already know what the rest of us were going to find out?
I think there are a lot of assumptions going on in this sentence and they aren't strong enough to make cases against non-Chicago voters. I didn't vote Chicago because DH was getting cranky at me and so I promised to give him space and head back to my city of origin, New Castle, though I really did want to see the new city.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:00 pm
by a2thezebra
birdwithteeth11 wrote:birdwithteeth11 wrote:Keterman wrote:...I don't think I buy that.
Uhhhh....really? Why not?
Or you could just go look at the respective thread. That would give you your answer.

As if you somehow couldn't have lied there as well? Give me a break.
Leamiteo wrote:Keterman wrote:Bullzeye wrote:unfurl wrote:Fair point about DP!
haha, i can not help to notice Bullz name is among the people wanted to go to chicago,
as I voted for the previous period
and then people say they dont see a connection bewteen him and DH

Of course I voted to go to Chicago. It was an entirely new place and I assumed everyone would be drawn there. Go read my posts, I said on the last night in Wilmington I thought that since a lot of people would presumably vote for the new place that Chicago would be a good place for discussion and building theories. How was I to know where DH had voted? We were in separate threads. There's no connection between me and him just a few minor interactions given more importance than they deserve. I've already established that he didn't help me get my fight on day two in any way and nor have I defended him against any accusers while they were present in the same thread.
Same here. And although it goes against the pet theory at the moment,
I'm more weary of those who didn't vote Chicago. A new city to check out and they didn't vote for it? Why the lack of curiosity? Do they already know what the rest of us were going to find out?
I think there are a lot of assumptions going on in this sentence and they aren't strong enough to make cases against non-Chicago voters. I didn't vote Chicago because DH was getting cranky at me and so I promised to give him space and head back to my city of origin, New Castle, though I really did want to see the new city.
Nearly everything we say at this point is an assumption, why are you trying to act like my theorizing stands out as unorthodox? And why are you trying to act like I was going to use those assumptions to make actual cases? Your reasoning sounds decent enough, but why so quick to be defensive because I used the w-word (weary)?
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:01 pm
by timmer
Wow unfutl, you really are running wild with that, lol. I'm not sure about the move as a group thing at this point. Wouldnt they want to spread out??
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:06 pm
by Tangrowth
Sorsha wrote:
MP-Can Tyler still recruit players to Project Mayhem?
Yes, he can.
The thing that changed was that Civilians were previously independent (could win with either side). Now they win with Narrator (must have Tyler dead), but they can still be recruited and have their win conditions change just like before.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:10 pm
by DharmaHelper
THRILLING
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:11 pm
by S~V~S
Silly Zombie
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:03 pm
by birdwithteeth11
Keterman wrote:birdwithteeth11 wrote:birdwithteeth11 wrote:Keterman wrote:...I don't think I buy that.
Uhhhh....really? Why not?
Or you could just go look at the respective thread. That would give you your answer.

As if you somehow couldn't have lied there as well? Give me a break.
Fair enough. But that's only an assumption on your part.
Leamiteo wrote:Keterman wrote:Bullzeye wrote:unfurl wrote:Fair point about DP!
haha, i can not help to notice Bullz name is among the people wanted to go to chicago,
as I voted for the previous period
and then people say they dont see a connection bewteen him and DH

Of course I voted to go to Chicago. It was an entirely new place and I assumed everyone would be drawn there. Go read my posts, I said on the last night in Wilmington I thought that since a lot of people would presumably vote for the new place that Chicago would be a good place for discussion and building theories. How was I to know where DH had voted? We were in separate threads. There's no connection between me and him just a few minor interactions given more importance than they deserve. I've already established that he didn't help me get my fight on day two in any way and nor have I defended him against any accusers while they were present in the same thread.
Same here. And although it goes against the pet theory at the moment,
I'm more weary of those who didn't vote Chicago. A new city to check out and they didn't vote for it? Why the lack of curiosity? Do they already know what the rest of us were going to find out?
I think there are a lot of assumptions going on in this sentence and they aren't strong enough to make cases against non-Chicago voters. I didn't vote Chicago because DH was getting cranky at me and so I promised to give him space and head back to my city of origin, New Castle, though I really did want to see the new city.
Nearly everything we say at this point is an assumption, why are you trying to act like my theorizing stands out as unorthodox? And why are you trying to act like I was going to use those assumptions to make actual cases? Your reasoning sounds decent enough, but why so quick to be defensive because I used the w-word (weary)?
Again, why are you assuming that the non-Chicago voters knew anything? According to your theory, that means over 2/3 of the people playing at the time knew that not going to Chicago would trigger some kind of event. That seems extremely far-fetched to me.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:16 pm
by a2thezebra
You say "the non-Chicago voters" as if I was referring to all of them. Obviously not voting to go to Chicago doesn't automatically make you scum. I'm saying that I'm generally more weary of the players who didn't want to go than those you did. I find it odd that no one accused unfurl of thinking that everyone in her theory's list was scum, but with me, you did, even though as you yourself pointed out that's about 2/3 of the players. Do you really think that I would be trying to push that as fact?
Like Leamiteo, you're taking my speculation, which was really more of a defense against being a potential suspect for being on the list of those who did vote to go to Chicago, as an actual theory that I'm trying to push. It's not, I'm just saying that in general I'm more weary of those players. With Leamiteo I can understand getting defensive for being in that pool of potential suspects, but you just seem like you're trying to pin me as reaching when I'm just throwing out possibilities. And why are you so passionate about assumptions? I already reminded Leamiteo that most of what we have to go on has to be reasoned with using assumptions.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:18 pm
by a2thezebra
I admit that in my post I might of made it seemed like I was putting everyone on the chopping block. But I thought that by default it was clear enough that I wasn't, just because of how insane that would be. Do you really think that I would try to propose that not one player voted to not go to Chicago for a harmless reason?
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:31 pm
by birdwithteeth11
I'll admit, I thought you were putting all of those voters together, which is why I found your idea a bit out there. But at the same time, I don't see how you could argue that going/not going to Chicago or any other location could be harmful or harmless.
I applaud you for trying to think outside the box, but in order for me to be willing to look at a new theory, there has to be at least some logic behind it. And I don't see the logic behind yours I'm afraid.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:33 pm
by birdwithteeth11
Also, I know we still have a bit over a day to vote, but with this many people still alive, it seems WAY too quiet still. I wouldn't mind hearing more from some people who have been quiet(er) since the merging.
Long Con, I see you lurking. Anything you have to add to the conversation?
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:49 pm
by Long Con
I didn't vote to go to Chicago. I had already decided to stay in Wilmington after missing the vote to leave... I found that staying in the same thread would minimize of back-reading I would have to do, which appealed to me in a time that it seemed everyone was just talking about fighting without understanding what fighting was or meant. So, that's just another reason why a person wouldn't vote for Chicago, it's not from some nefarious intention, I just wanted to stay where I knew the thread.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:49 pm
by Long Con
And I wasn't lurking, I was catching up after being gone all weekend.

Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:52 pm
by Mongoose
IRL I moved to a new city. no internet yet. am i dead?
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:55 pm
by Epignosis
Mongoose wrote:IRL I moved to a new city. no internet yet. am i dead?
You are.
You're also banned for violating a rule.
Nah just kidding.
Still dead a doornail though.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:04 pm
by a2thezebra
birdwithteeth11 wrote:I'll admit, I thought you were putting all of those voters together, which is why I found your idea a bit out there. But at the same time, I don't see how you could argue that going/not going to Chicago or any other location could be harmful or harmless.
I applaud you for trying to think outside the box, but in order for me to be willing to look at a new theory, there has to be at least some logic behind it. And I don't see the logic behind yours I'm afraid.
This was a sly response. As I said, it's hardly a new theory. It was shared with the main intention to emphasize how the logic behind
unfurl's theory was lacking as well, and I would say moreso.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:06 pm
by a2thezebra
I'm curious as to why no one's voted vompatti yet. Is it normal over here for a strong yet failed lynch to garner no votes for quite a while the following day?
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:06 pm
by timmer
timmer wrote:Wow unfutl, you really are running wild with that, lol. I'm not sure about the move as a group thing at this point. Wouldnt they want to spread out??
To expand on this, the idea of studying the group of voters who wanted to go to Chicago makes several assumptions. First, that Tyler needs to be in the fight club to recruit someone. Second, that once he had recruited someone that he would choose to stick with them. Third, that the arrival of Chicago would mean they went there. Only if all of that is TRUE, does looking at the list of Chicago voters make sense.
To the first part, I do think that's likely how Tyler recruits. It just makes too much sense.
To the second part, a lot of it is timing and the question of BTSC. When exactly does a Tyler recruitment happen? The end of the night period? The start of night? If the recruitment only goes through at the end of the night, Tyler would have to put his name next to his target's in the poll without knowing if the recruitment would work. And then, once someone joins Project Mayhem, is there BTSC? Does Tyler have a link to them? Because this brings me to part 3...
The idea that they all chose to go to Chicago. If Tyler and the Mayhemites have BTSC, would they need to stick together? I no longer think they do; fighting doesn't seem too bad, and there are enough volunteers etc that no one should get sucked into fighting if they don't want to. With BTSC, to me it would make sense to split up, to try to get an eye in each fight club.
If they don't have BTSC, then definitely sticking together seems a bit more likely.
I think trying to find a lynch target based on all of this likely would lead to about the same chance of finding Tyler as picking someone at random, sadly.
I WILL, however, at least not vote for the people who have never shared a fight club with DH. That's the one part of this I feel pretty good about. So people like Keterman, juliets and the others are off of my personal list. For the rest... shit, I don't know.
Is there anything in seeing that INH died and was a cop? Was there anyone who was chummy with INH early on? Do the police have btsc where one got recruited and now the police will be picked off one by one? Do the police know who each other are?
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:09 pm
by timmer
@Keterman, you bring up a decent point about Vompatti. MP said the lynch was indeed a tie, so he MAY have survived by random chance. But, certainly if Alex knew this phase of the game would happen, he could have built in a lynch dodge to Tyler's role. And I stand by the weirdness of some of Vompatti's actions in this game. And before anyone jumps on me for using Vompatti and weird in the same sentence, I mean that Vompatti has at times NOT been weird, which for him is... weird. He asked for a letter in the siggie contest. Normal Vompatti would request "K". That he requested anything, but more importantly a D and not his standard "k" comment is odd.
If I don't find a better target today, Vomps will be my fallback lynch target.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:12 pm
by timmer
However, let's be real, here. That's not exactly a stellar cut and dried case, right there. I'm roughly at "day 2" in my certainties in this game, which is to say not very certain of anything. Anyone jumping on my comments about Vomps as if he is a slam dunk case will earn as much of a

from me as Vomps has.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:16 pm
by a2thezebra
My eyes are primarily fixed towards vompatti, birdwithteeth11, and the llama73.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:17 pm
by timmer
So the roles say the cops have btsc... so if one gets recruited, the others are goners, I guess? Yikes...
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:19 pm
by Marmot
DharmaHelper wrote:Can I get rezzed now?
You're doing it wrong.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:21 pm
by Marmot
Nevinera wrote:Thanks, MM89! Still no baby, but it's got to happen soon.
No problem. I'm just taking responsibility...

Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:21 pm
by Marmot
It will take me a little time to catch up. Luckily, I have that.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:35 pm
by timmer
Hmm, Kterman, I think I may have talked myself out voting Vompatti again, actually.
I'm still clinging to the "tyler has to be in the room to recruit" theory, so by that rationale, if Vomps were Tyler his only chance to recruit DH was after Day 4 (I assume here that recruitments are night actions, thus Night 4) since Day 4 was their first time in the same fight club. Logically, that's too tight of a timeline.
In fact, let me expand this.
ANYONE who first encountered DH on Day 4 seems unlikely to be Tyler. The timeline would have to be: "Tyler" and DH both are in Peens Grove on Day 4, having never bumped each other before. "Tyler" sends in a recruitment night action to recruit DH. A policeman ALSO checks DH and... finds that he's a recruit and kills him the same night? It would depend a bit on how Alex does the whole Order of Events thing at night, but really, would a cop check DH at the exact same time Tyler tried to recruit him, and Alex would say a) you recruit him and then b) the cop checked him and then c) the cop killed him, all in one night? Seems a stretch.
Let me trim out the Day 4 people to see who are left with... and I won't be voting Vompatii.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:40 pm
by a2thezebra
Although it puts me in a nice practically-confirmed town position, I have to admit that I don't think the "Tyler has to be in the room to recruit" theory is good enough to base reads on. It is a very good theory, but it's no Theory of Relativity. It could be wrong, and if it is, that's a LOT of misguided reads that would come from it. I'm sticking to basing my reads entirely off of posts, which I admit might also be a bad idea.
Re: [NIGHT 5] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:42 pm
by timmer
Okay, so... alive people who had never shared a fight club with DH: Boomslang, Hedgeowl, juliets, Keterman, unfurl and Spacedaisy.
Alive people who only shared a fight club with DH day/night 4: Elohcin, FH/Canucklehead, Vompatti.
I personally won't vote for any of them today. Again, any of them could be RECRUITS. I just doubt any of them are TYLER.
@KEterman, absolutely, people need to follow their gut on these things.
Re: [DAY 6] Fight Club Mafia
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:25 am
by Long Con
timmer wrote:So the roles say the cops have btsc... so if one gets recruited, the others are goners, I guess? Yikes...
It definitely behooves the cops to check their own ranks as soon as possible. Perhaps the host has safeguards against a domino effect like that, but better safe than sorry.