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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:32 pm
by Epignosis
I think I am being clear in all respects. That's what.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:33 pm
by boo
Nope.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:34 pm
by Epignosis
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:41 pm
by Snowman
Epignosis wrote:thellama73 wrote:Snowman wrote:Epignosis wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:Epignosis wrote:I want to lay this out there too:
DH thinks I'm bad because I think most of the Yotsuba are independents.
If you are bad, what's a clever strategy when you don't have BTSC with more than one person? Widen the net of potential bad guys maybe?
I think you may be bad for several reasons. Being purposefully obtuse being one of them, for example. Add to that your recent framing of my posts in a clearly false and flawed light, and the semblance of a case is there.

Adverbs, dude.
And what posts are those?
hah, grammar burn

Epi has a theory that the Mafia use adverbs more than civvies do.
It's not a theory- it's true, and it's neat because Mafia usually misunderstand it. GUILTY people use unnecessary adverbs more than innocent people. So now watch for people trying NOT to use adverbs and still looking clumsy. It's funny as hell.
Does it still work if you're fake-guilty? I mean, isn't everyone lying, either fake-guilty or fake-innocent?
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:41 pm
by boo
Epignosis wrote:boo wrote:Nope.
Okay.
Know who you're voting for yet?
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:44 pm
by Marmot
thellama73 wrote:I know who I want to lynch already, and it's not Made.

I see what you did there. Well played.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:44 pm
by Epignosis
Elohcin wrote:Epignosis wrote:thellama73 wrote:Epignosis wrote:I made a list of four people that I would vote for on Day 1. Turnip Head is one of those, although not for the same reasoning you raised, llama.
Am I on your list?
No. I like you.
In fact, so that no one accuses me of being opportunistic or jumping onto other people's cases, I'll name the quartet now:
Ricochet, Turnip Head, spacedaisy, and FZ.
Why these four?
I believe Ricochet was being deceptive in his Day 0 questions. I think he was pretending to be clueless. He is not clueless. He is very smart. Even he knew that Simon Railton belong in the Eclectic category but sucked beyond belief! I think Ricochet is bad.
Turnip Head? TH has been boring beyond belief. Also I think he is tied to another player.
spacedaisy voted Day 0 and didn't say why. I think spacedaisy is bad with FZ. FZ. also has been absent. I think these two are unsure of what to say.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:48 pm
by Made
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Sockface snatched the Lynch Note from the player currently holding it.
SOCKFACE: Now get to finding Kira! Good luck.
It is now Day 1.
You have 48 hours to find and lynch Kira.
ok, at first I thought this said death note, not lynch note... not sure where that leaves the mobile death note theory, but what does everyone think this is?
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:48 pm
by boo
Does tied together mean BTSC?
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:51 pm
by Epignosis
I'm going to bed. Jesus.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:58 pm
by Marmot
boo, what's the deal? I saw that you've called my name out already, but what for?
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:00 am
by boo
Metalmarsh89 wrote:boo, what's the deal? I saw that you've called my name out already, but what for?
D0 vote. For how I think (he didn't really clear it up) Epi landed on which names to include in the 4, I believe the same logic should have expanded the list to include you and several others.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:11 am
by Marmot
boo wrote:Elohcin wrote:Epignosis wrote:thellama73 wrote:Epignosis wrote:I made a list of four people that I would vote for on Day 1. Turnip Head is one of those, although not for the same reasoning you raised, llama.
Am I on your list?
No. I like you.
In fact, so that no one accuses me of being opportunistic or jumping onto other people's cases, I'll name the quartet now:
Ricochet, Turnip Head, spacedaisy, and FZ.
Why these four?
Question seconded, but I want to expand.
I get Ricochet and agree. I get TH and haven't landed anywhere yet myself on it. I get SD and to a lesser extent FZ, but would have to question how those 2 make the list and MM, Snowman, DP, Ace, and Boomslang don't when SD (and sort of FZ) are probably being placed on the list for the same reasons.
So, that makes me think either MM, Snowman, DP, Ace, and Boomslang are being left off because Epi is bad (or I suppose could have civvie BTSC since in this game it looks like we're just starting with 2 baddies and 2 civvies having BTSC) and one of them is his BTSC teammate, Epi could be any alignment (I'd still be leaning bad) and wants to lynch Rico or TH but just threw SD and FZ onto his list to round it out, or Epi reached putting SD and FZ on his list in a different way than I did that didn't allow for the extra 4 I have to also be on his.
That stopped seeming like a question for Epi at some point... but anyways Epi, thoughts?
Are you just trying to justify his logic then?
Also, I notice your post above, how it started as a question to Epi, but stopped being a question. I also noticed this
other post from you directed at Epi. I see quite a resemblance.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:20 am
by boo
No, I was questioning it. Either he got 4 of the same people using the same reasons I did, but cut a bunch of other ones the reasons those 4 are worth mentioning for reasons I don't understand, or he reached 4 of the same people I did in a different way and I wanted to know why.
Nah, mine wasn't intentional. It was the paragraph of considering the possible alignments that threw me off having the question asked how I had initially wanted to, but that bit became more important than the actual question.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:47 am
by Turnip Head
Sorry that I am boring you, Epi! I'm not tied to anyone though.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:49 am
by Zombarella
@DH-Give me a break. I've barely been able to keep up with you let alone make meaningful and well crafted additions to the conversation. This is only my second game ever. I haven't had time to formulate any kind of strategy and trying to analyze me would be weird because I'm still trying to figure out how to play. I like to post and I agreed with Boo. That's it.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:51 am
by DharmaHelper
Zomberella12 wrote:@DH-Give me a break. I've barely been able to keep up with you let alone make meaningful and well crafted additions to the conversation. This is only my second game ever. I haven't had time to formulate any kind of strategy and trying to analyze me would be weird because I'm still trying to figure out how to play. I like to post and I agreed with Boo. That's it.
Welcome to the game, by the way.

Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:08 am
by Marmot
DharmaHelper wrote:Zomberella12 wrote:@DH-Give me a break. I've barely been able to keep up with you let alone make meaningful and well crafted additions to the conversation. This is only my second game ever. I haven't had time to formulate any kind of strategy and trying to analyze me would be weird because I'm still trying to figure out how to play. I like to post and I agreed with Boo. That's it.
Welcome to the game, by the way.

Welcome to the game DH. Don't want you to feel left out.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:11 am
by DharmaHelper
I meant the game of mafia, in the broader sense, since this is the first time I'm playing with Zomberella and apparently her second game overall.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:23 am
by Spacedaisy
boo wrote:Oh, a potential 3/9 actually, since spacedaisy voted without actually posting, but maybe her post got eaten or something.
No, I got bogged down dealing with some mod related stuff which tbh is more important to me anyway, and had to vote quickly before I left. I wasn't even caught up since the last time I posted actually, I had already expressed that I liked both normal and light/l and just decided to cast a vote for the second because I was ok with either and decided to even it up a little more. I'm catching up on the last seven pages right now...
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:34 am
by triceratopzeuhl
well I just got !votebanned for winning too bad at Team Fortress so I'm back here. How's going?
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:35 am
by triceratopzeuhl
DharmaHelper wrote:I meant the game of mafia, in the broader sense, since this is the first time I'm playing with Zomberella and apparently her second game overall.
oh I thought you meant the game of life
WELCOME TO ADULTHOOD I HOPE YOU BROUGHT PAINKILLERS
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:37 am
by triceratopzeuhl
I'm pleased to see no lynch votes yet, unlike last game I played
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:49 am
by Spacedaisy
Epignosis wrote:Elohcin wrote:Epignosis wrote:thellama73 wrote:Epignosis wrote:I made a list of four people that I would vote for on Day 1. Turnip Head is one of those, although not for the same reasoning you raised, llama.
Am I on your list?
No. I like you.
In fact, so that no one accuses me of being opportunistic or jumping onto other people's cases, I'll name the quartet now:
Ricochet, Turnip Head, spacedaisy, and FZ.
Why these four?
I believe Ricochet was being deceptive in his Day 0 questions. I think he was pretending to be clueless. He is not clueless. He is very smart. Even he knew that Simon Railton belong in the Eclectic category but sucked beyond belief! I think Ricochet is bad.
Turnip Head? TH has been boring beyond belief. Also I think he is tied to another player.
spacedaisy voted Day 0 and didn't say why. I think spacedaisy is bad with FZ. FZ. also has been absent. I think these two are unsure of what to say.
Epi this doesn't make sense to me. I said quite a bit in my analysis of the options earlier in the day and explained where I was leaning. I just didn't say it at the moment of my vote because I was in a rush at that time. Had I been caught up maybe my vote would have been different, I don't know. Probably not because I still liked the idea of trying out something new. I didn't say as much as you did, no. Because I was busy playing mod this morning/afternoon and I wasn't in a pissing contest with DH like you were. I can understand your suspicion, but your reasoning for including me on the short list seems hollow to me.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:00 am
by Zombarella
DharmaHelper wrote:I meant the game of mafia, in the broader sense, since this is the first time I'm playing with Zomberella and apparently her second game overall.
Thanks. Glad to be here.
@Tricer- There's Advil in my purse any time you need it.

Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:21 am
by Turnip Head
Made wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:
Sockface snatched the Lynch Note from the player currently holding it.
SOCKFACE: Now get to finding Kira! Good luck.
It is now Day 1.
You have 48 hours to find and lynch Kira.
ok, at first I thought this said death note, not lynch note... not sure where that leaves the mobile death note theory, but what does everyone think this is?
MP also referenced it as a "Lynch Note" in the Day0 opening post. I think that's what we're calling lynches, unrelated to the Death Notes.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:27 am
by Turnip Head
Epi, how do you know that the other, non-Kira members of the baddie teams cannot become new Kiras if they get their hands on a Death Note? To me, it seems safer to get rid of them all, but I agree that exterminating the Kiras first would be optimal.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:36 am
by triceratopzeuhl
We could sit here and speculate all day but either way we still need to kill the kiras. If we do that and don't win yet we can deal with it then
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:37 am
by Turnip Head
I mean I agree... Got any suspects?

Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:09 am
by FZ.
Epignosis wrote:Elohcin wrote:Epignosis wrote:thellama73 wrote:Epignosis wrote:I made a list of four people that I would vote for on Day 1. Turnip Head is one of those, although not for the same reasoning you raised, llama.
Am I on your list?
No. I like you.
In fact, so that no one accuses me of being opportunistic or jumping onto other people's cases, I'll name the quartet now:
Ricochet, Turnip Head, spacedaisy, and FZ.
Why these four?
I believe Ricochet was being deceptive in his Day 0 questions. I think he was pretending to be clueless. He is not clueless. He is very smart. Even he knew that Simon Railton belong in the Eclectic category but sucked beyond belief! I think Ricochet is bad.
Turnip Head? TH has been boring beyond belief. Also I think he is tied to another player.
spacedaisy voted Day 0 and didn't say why.
I think spacedaisy is bad with FZ. FZ. also has been absent. I think these two are unsure of what to say.
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Sorry, I'm just not in the mood to play, and at this point, the only reason I'm playing is not to disappoint MP. And this is a shitty reason for thinking I'm bad.
You are right about me not knowing what to say, though. With my lack of enthusiasm and the posting diarrhea that's been going on here, all I'm reading is DH blah Epi blah blah etc'. There is only one person making sense to me at this point.
I'm not familiar with the theme of this game, and did not thoroughly look at the list of roles, just saw a lot of secrets and figured not much point.
At this point, I think the discussion going on is hindering real baddie hunting because I can't keep up.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:12 am
by FZ.
EBPO...meant to say "is to not disappoint"
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:31 am
by Turnip Head
Yes, Epi and DH tend to be quite talkative and combative, and they will continue to be that way until one or both of them is hanged or maimed. It has always been this way, and it will forever be this way, going on and on and on. If you think of it purely as entertainment, it's not any more offensive than Jersey Shore.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:43 am
by bea
Playing catch up again. Will post thoughts on the whole Boo/DH/Llama/Epi when I get to the end of it (1 page to go) - but first
Made wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:
Sockface snatched the Lynch Note from the player currently holding it.
SOCKFACE: Now get to finding Kira! Good luck.
It is now Day 1.
You have 48 hours to find and lynch Kira.
ok, at first I thought this said death note, not lynch note... not sure where that leaves the mobile death note theory, but what does everyone think this is?
1) I call Tricey Tricey.
2) You know Made, I didn't really put a lot of stock in it when I first read that post. But now that you bring it up, it does kinda look like someone was perhaps given info ("snatched the lynch vote from the player currently holding it.") - It also looks like maybe the lynch note may come back at some point. Definitely something to keep an eye out for though! Good job!
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:06 am
by bea
Turnip Head wrote:Yes, Epi and DH tend to be quite talkative and combative, and they will continue to be that way until one or both of them is hanged or maimed. It has always been this way, and it will forever be this way, going on and on and on. If you think of it purely as entertainment, it's not any more offensive than Jersey Shore.
That said, yea. While the start of the day phase has been very talkative, it seems like DH is being DH, Llama is being Llama, Epi is being Epi. I am curious though Epi if beer was involved in your posting tonight. I this read felt like "drunk Epi that I would prolly get into another argument with if I were drinking too even if we actually agreed on things.

"
I actually find myself agreeing with lots of what Boo has to say. His posts read like the sound voice of reason to me in lots of respects. Though his thought process is usually one I find agreeable so dunno that says much more than boo is being boo too.
Not sure what to make of Zomberella or Ricocheet yet. (I will find cutesy nicknames - give me time. We already have a zombies and a rico...) They are newish to the game and new to me. I don't want to pass judgment on them on D1 before I've had a chance to see them play. Welcome to the games and TS btw. I'm sorry I'm so late at getting the hello to you.
FZ - I know the back and forth was hard to push through for you, but you said the back and forth felt like it was distracting from baddie hunting. Do you think they are both civs or might one of them have a point? Who would you like to look at today? You've got a pretty sharp eye when you are in your civ game, I would love to hear your thoughts.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:35 am
by Ricochet
sorry, quick snip here
bea wrote:
Not sure what to make of Zomberella or Ricocheet yet. (I will find cutesy nicknames - give me time. We already have a zombies and a rico...)
I did notice in a non-game discussions thread that you use the nickname Rico for a different player (Enrique), but since he's not playing here and most players so far have used the nickname (well, except some I'm making first contact with in this game, like DH, boo, and others who prefer not to nick me, like Epignosis), my friendly advice would be to use it as well. Ricochet is fine, otherwise, too.

Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:14 am
by bea
Ricochet wrote:sorry, quick snip here
bea wrote:
Not sure what to make of Zomberella or Ricocheet yet. (I will find cutesy nicknames - give me time. We already have a zombies and a rico...)
I did notice in a non-game discussions thread that you use the nickname Rico for a different player (Enrique), but since he's not playing here and most players so far have used the nickname (well, except some I'm making first contact with in this game, like DH, boo, and others who prefer not to nick me, like Epignosis), my friendly advice would be to use it as well. Ricochet is fine, otherwise, too.

Yea - Enrique has been Rico Suave to me for like years. Even on other sites when his name is no where near Enrique (like it was Eko on one) he was Rico Suave. Hedville forever man!
I'm currently entertaining Chettey and 'Brella. Feel free to agree or disagree.
I didn't know till someone else mentioned it that you were married. Welcome to the married people who mafia club. My hubby is Big Damn Hero but he really doesn't mafia much. He prefers to shoot things on the x-box more these days.
When you are not trying to defend against people suspecting you, what do you think about what's been said today? Do you find anyone suspicious yet? Why or why not?
I can't believe someone is around when I am!
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:20 am
by zeek
bea wrote:I'm currently entertaining Chettey and 'Brella.
I like Chet and Ella
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:22 am
by S~V~S
I have been calling Zomberella Zomba. And yeah, Rico Suave! So I do like Chet.
And I totally agree with the Tarzan Theorem re DH & Epi. Alpha male chest pounding and circling and swaggering.
That said, mystery win conditions, potential future BTS based on the role descriptions, and a Kira with a possible death note don't sound like a civvie group, Epi.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:35 am
by Ricochet
Starting to wonder, personally, if this game is too much to cope with. I'm glad to see some interpret this as me actually being very smart, but nah. Slow reader, slow at processing, slow at replying - that's me atm. I slept through most of the D1 discussion, so far, and I barely managed to finish reading the three (3!) new stuffed pages before finishing my breakfast, let alone interpret them or have to reply. This is a whole different level than the Film game I'm playing and I may have picked the wrong game to try to do that - and I currently have to juggle both, too. Of course, I've been sucked in by the theme and its design, but since I'm currently (partially) being hunted for having done too much theme-based speculation, welp, there goes my mood, too.
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If I would have to make some ironic remarks to some of the charges, they would be thus:
The player who accuses me of pondering too much on my voting option and being tactical about it (even if I was consistent in deciding to reflect more on it, but he's not the kind of player to care for such details, anyway) is someone who started the game by saying he'll wait for more opinions, waited a whooping 13 minutes, then simply voted for what he wanted anyway (or went along with DH's explanations), only for the rest of D0 to have more and more doubts, especially after hearing reasonings from boo, SVS or Epignosis.
The player who accused me of extravagant speculation has just opened a new line of speculation about secret win conditions and alignments.
On a more serious note, here's pretty much everything* that I have to say on what people are bringing out about me (*everything as in, if you won't find anything reasonable in it or it won't change your mind, then consider my defence concluded as well, because I've wasted time, neurons and temper before trying to reason and defend, without leading anywhere):
I decided to vote for the Normal-type option as much as I decided not to stick with the L/Light-type option after all, because I did not manage to build a satisfying reasoning (especially in the context of the extensive reasonings done by many others) to support my belief that L/Light would work and also because much of the counter-reasoning (boo, Epi) made me reconsider. Voting for the L/Light-type would, thus, not have been too well-argumented from me, nor would I have been able to vouch that the downsides of that voting option would be minor.
The issues players are having with the theme speculations I've done lies, I believe, in a difference of attitude towards playing this game. This is quite the second game in which I am disheartened to see that as soon as game properly starts, the theme is ditched and the rabid pure mafia-gaming is all that matters, but maybe I still have to adapt to that. Picture Llama and me on the complete opposite sides of the spectrum: he wants only facts, evidence and strict gaming. I still truly believe that a key to understanding the plethora of secrets (especially along the way when actions might happen and we all might be left wondering what the hell happened) will be to relate to the theme/story/character traits; that made it easy for me to assume L/Watari BTSC is certain to happen, even though I did realize I made a logical leap and apologized for it. DH's arrived to the conclusion the better, non-speculative way, whilst my view, even if it doesn't differ much, is now being seen as dishonest.
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I don't believe that the Normal-type option is purely civilianesque and the L/Light-type purely anti-civilianesque. That makes me currently wary of everyone who is trying to antagonize the other side of voters. That leads me to Trice the most, because all he's done on D0 is show zero tolerance for the L/Light option, try to push the tactic on hunting down the L/Light voters once we start D1 business, ride on the coattails of Epignosis and boo all day long without saying much himself.
Aware of Turnip Head's on-off game and watching him closely myself.
I'd be inclined to add Epignosis on my list too for starting his own speculation game after shooting down the one played by others (and intending to lynch them for it, too), plus being (or pretending to be) oblivious to the fact that Spacedaisy was in fact among the people who made an analysis of all the vote types, so her vote is actually supported by her preferences, not at all unaccounted. But I'm not fully sure how serious these charges are to be regarded.
As for more suspicious D0 voters: Bass (simple hello, then simple vote for Normal, towards the end of the D0 show), Snowman (popcorn reactions to the D0 game, votes for an odd option, then has to be begged a bit to reason his option) and DisgruntledPorcupine (very late odd option, no reasoning). MM sort of saved himself along the way, because he started poorly by voting early and for a jokey reason, more jokey reactions to what happened along and only late in the day starting to question or reply to some discussion or theories.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:37 am
by Ricochet
I'd rather not be called Chet, because given the way the "ch" is actually pronounced in Ricochet, it's one letter away from Shit (even if that perfectly describes my level of gaming right now).
Also, bea, it's past noon here right now, so that's why.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:41 am
by bea
zeek wrote:bea wrote:I'm currently entertaining Chettey and 'Brella.
I like Chet and Ella
How are you not playing this game??? wtf zeeky????
S~V~S wrote:I have been calling Zomberella Zomba. And yeah, Rico Suave! So I do like Chet.
And I totally agree with the Tarzan Theorem re DH & Epi. Alpha male chest pounding and circling and swaggering.
That said, mystery win conditions, potential future BTS based on the role descriptions, and a Kira with a possible death note don't sound like a civvie group, Epi.
Zombra is good too! and Chet seems to be the winner then! ( I read Chet in my head as Shay btw)
And yes SVS - I agree with you and boo about all that. Not sure if you are on to something or if Epi is just being stubborn to be stubborn.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:19 am
by S~V~S
I don't necessarily think Epi is bad, quite the opposite at this point~ lots of what he says makes total civ sense to me, and it is too early to tell with all the chest beating going on. But I am somewhat wary of him not so much for drawing a conclusion re The Yotsuba, as for being so adamant that anyone drawing a different conclusion is so very obviously incorrect. I thought the status of that group was rather vague, and open to interpretation. They are led by a Kira, start with not-necessarily-BTS just like the clearly labeled baddies, and have those ??? win conditions. They COULD be a loosely connected Indy team, or they COULD be a ninja assassin squad or, knowing MP, almost anything.
Plus that whole discussion last night, what I saw was this:
I think I am going to reread a few people later, in isolation from the Testosterone bath.
@Ricochet
(won't call you Chet since you don't want to be called that), generally the theme is secondary to the Mafia. Otherwise people who were unfamiliar with the theme would not play, or would be unable to follow if they did. There is still lots of theme to go around, but you don't NEED to know it in order to effectively play. That can be a bummer if you are way into the theme, but sometimes it does transcend and you get the real feel of the theme. The Harry Potter game here was like that. Although that could be because HP is a theme with which most people are familiar. That said, lots of hosts work theme appropriate mechanics into their games, and MP is one of them. So your speculations could be spot on. I think it was a reasonable thought re BTS, and one I also considered and I don't know anything about the theme. L/Light seem to be point/counterpoint in the set up, so I could see them having parallels.
Also, I used to think Llama was bad ALL THE TIME for his ideas about how the game should be played. His tendency to wade in, see something that pings him, grab it and not let go EVER doesn't always help. Maybe it is seeing more of you, but so far, you are not on my reread list.
As for more suspicious D0 voters: Bass (simple hello, then simple vote for Normal, towards the end of the D0 show), Snowman (popcorn reactions to the D0 game, votes for an odd option, then has to be begged a bit to reason his option) and DisgruntledPorcupine (very late odd option, no reasoning). MM sort of saved himself along the way, because he started poorly by voting early and for a jokey reason, more jokey reactions to what happened along and only late in the day starting to question or reply to some discussion or theories.
Bass & DP ALWAYS play this way, no indication as to affiliation. Bass will open up with time, DP may or may not

i am not seeing the Snowman thing as you are. Sometimes when people are putting on a good show, you have to grab the popcorn & watch. Plus this was a VERY unusual Day 0; generally Day 0 is a full day of that sort of thing. That would apply to bass & DH as well. MM is a hard one for me, he always seems to misconstrue what people say to the point that it seems intentional. So not sure there.
I think if Daisy was bad, she would have said something when she voted. I can see brisk civ Daisy being busy and thinking, I laid out my reasoning earlier, gotta vote; then voting and running. Bad Daisy would have been more worried about appearances imo.
There is a lot of "too early to tell" going on here, with too big a helping of testosterone vapors.
But it is WAY
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:22 am
by S~V~S
EBWOP~ I am quoting the whole paragraph in whole for clarity:
Bass & DP ALWAYS play this way, no indication as to affiliation. Bass will open up with time, DP may or may not

i am not seeing the Snowman thing as you are. Sometimes when people are putting on a good show, you have to grab the popcorn & watch. Plus this was a VERY unusual Day 0; generally Day 0 is a full day of that sort of thing.
That would apply to bass & DH as well. MM is a hard one for me, he always seems to misconstrue what people say to the point that it seems intentional. So not sure there.
That highlighted section should read:
That would apply to bass &
DP as well.
that could have been VERY confusing lol

Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:41 am
by bea
How about Ricky? I like it and it's easy and not to closely associated with rico but still sounds like your name and isn't in any way associated with Shit.
Also - fwiw - the very reason I asked what your opnions were was because I felt that jumping on you for being "weird" when you are new is an easy out in the chest pumping and I like to hear what new people have to see. Sometimes they see things differently.
I'll echo SVS here -Bass is always pretty cold in the beginning of games and hopefully opens up.
DP's vote for low posters with only the

smiley - was about PERFECT for a DP post. He is always one of the lowest posters. Like ever. OF course he voted that option. Of course he said it with as few words as possible. I actually really did LOL when I read his post and saw his vote.
Says nothing about DP's alignment like AT ALL. I have no idea at all what allignent he had, but flags would have been raised in my personal hed cannon if he voted any other way than the way he did.
linki -lol svs.
Also- past noon? it's lkke almost 5 am here. Where are you located? This helps me read you too.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:52 am
by zeek
bea wrote:zeek wrote:bea wrote:I'm currently entertaining Chettey and 'Brella.
I like Chet and Ella
How are you not playing this game??? wtf zeeky????
Having a break
I am regretting not signing up.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:01 am
by Ricochet
Thanks for your input, SVS and bea. I'll keep in mind what you are saying about DP, but Bass' behaviour on D0 just adds to the profile I already have on him from another game. Of course, I am far from wanting to push any lynch on them for this (I never really quite embraced voting odd and/or low D0 posters at any point, in any game so far), but just wanted to name all the voters that stood out in an odd way to me.
bea, I'm in East-Central Europe
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:18 am
by bea
zeek wrote:bea wrote:zeek wrote:bea wrote:I'm currently entertaining Chettey and 'Brella.
I like Chet and Ella
How are you not playing this game??? wtf zeeky????
Having a break
I am regretting not signing up.
since you are not playing and following along, I hope you are on the replacement list zeeky.
Ricochet wrote:Thanks for your input, SVS and bea. I'll keep in mind what you are saying about DP, but Bass' behaviour on D0 just adds to the profile I already have on him from another game. Of course, I am far from wanting to push any lynch on them for this (I never really quite embraced voting odd and/or low D0 posters at any point, in any game so far), but just wanted to name all the voters that stood out in an odd way to me.
bea, I'm in East-Central Europe
Fair enough Ricky - and I did ask for your opinion. So there's that.

So like Germany/Netherlandsish or somewhere just south? Cool.

When we get to exchange ideas like this at this time - please know - it's at the end of my night. More likely than not - I've had beers.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:23 am
by Ricochet
bea wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Thanks for your input, SVS and bea. I'll keep in mind what you are saying about DP, but Bass' behaviour on D0 just adds to the profile I already have on him from another game. Of course, I am far from wanting to push any lynch on them for this (I never really quite embraced voting odd and/or low D0 posters at any point, in any game so far), but just wanted to name all the voters that stood out in an odd way to me.
bea, I'm in East-Central Europe
Fair enough Ricky - and I did ask for your opinion. So there's that.

So like Germany/Netherlandsish or somewhere just south? Cool.

When we get to exchange ideas like this at this time - please know - it's at the end of my night. More likely than not - I've had beers.
A little more to East (and the same time more to the South) than that. Sorry for being mysterious about it. :P
I figured (the late night part, not the beers). So far you and SVS are the only players I notice staying up this late, in your case.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:26 am
by S~V~S
Ha ha I am just going to work, 7:30 am here. Standing in the snow at the bus stop.
Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:30 am
by bea
Ricochet wrote:bea wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Thanks for your input, SVS and bea. I'll keep in mind what you are saying about DP, but Bass' behaviour on D0 just adds to the profile I already have on him from another game. Of course, I am far from wanting to push any lynch on them for this (I never really quite embraced voting odd and/or low D0 posters at any point, in any game so far), but just wanted to name all the voters that stood out in an odd way to me.
bea, I'm in East-Central Europe
Fair enough Ricky - and I did ask for your opinion. So there's that.

So like Germany/Netherlandsish or somewhere just south? Cool.

When we get to exchange ideas like this at this time - please know - it's at the end of my night. More likely than not - I've had beers.
A little more to East (and the same time more to the South) than that. Sorry for being mysterious about it. :P
I figured (the late night part, not the beers). So far you and SVS are the only players I notice staying up this late, in your case.
It's all good Ricky - you are not the only player that keeps their location on the vauge. I respect that actually. I'm in Arizona which means twice a year I float time zones.
SVS is up because she is on the east coast and it's currently like 8:28 am there. So she's waking up for the day and getting her coffee and starting her work day.
I tend to work nights. Which means, I'm up late even for my time (I typically get done beween 1-3 am my time) - which means it's not unusually for me to be 6 beers in at 5:30 am my time, 8:30 am SVSs time - and noon:30 your time.
When I posted early during the Day 0 poll is when I tend to be "coffee bea" - just waking up - etc.