The Syndicate

Oh wait!!! I thought someone was tied to Spaghetti for this lynch, but it is BF and MP. So my theory about Spaghetti is out the window, and the same goes for Storm Crow.

If Storm Crow is Horde then it must be Snake Mountain that is able to tie people together in the poll. OR it is one of the Indies....

LittleTiger wrote:Oh wait!!! I thought someone was tied to Spaghetti for this lynch, but it is BF and MP. So my theory about Spaghetti is out the window, and the same goes for Storm Crow.

If Storm Crow is Horde then it must be Snake Mountain that is able to tie people together in the poll. OR it is one of the Indies....

I've got a feeling it is one of the indies.

I learned something interesting from voting the Lovers. And I maintain that we can for sure catch a member of the Horde if we lynch Stormcrow. Of that I feel pretty certain.

However, Epignosis' reveal that the kill will not pass to the other mafia team if we eliminate one does make me think finding the Snake Mountain today would be awesome.

Granted, I don't feel sunshine and daisies about spaghetti either for what it's worth.

Im in favor of voting spaghetti. Whether the votes shift or not se or sc will be lynched and thats a win win I think theyre both likely bad. If we want to lynch mp we have to vote aces or lt though.

LT, I'm confused about a few things. I kind of thought that you and I were on a certain page. And yet you listed me as a potential Horde member, which makes me think we aren't on the page i thought we were on.

Where are we, exactly?

LittleTiger wrote:Here is what I think:

MP, Ishar, Spaghetti = Horde. The 4th one is probably one of this group: BF, FH, reywaS, Kate, or Timmer.

DH was killed by Snake Mountain on N9 thus we can conclude that either juliets was Snake Mountain and so is Dom, or we are wrong about Dom.


Thoughts?

Of the underlined, I think you're wrong about everyone on your "probable Horde" list. I have roles in mind for all of those players and none of them are Horde roles.

At this moment, I think for Horde we've got MP, spaghetti, Stormcrow, and ???.

For Snake Mountain ??? (gotta be someone who has at least been online so can't be IMC or the_untamed).

There's rey, DP, Aces, IMC, and the_untamed on my completely clueless list. Some of them have got to be civvie, but I think at least one, maybe two of these have to be bad.

timmer wrote:LT, I'm confused about a few things. I kind of thought that you and I were on a certain page. And yet you listed me as a potential Horde member, which makes me think we aren't on the page i thought we were on.

Where are we, exactly?

Just thinking things through, Timmer.... I think we are on the same page, but the way this game has been working, I cannot be sure of anyone except a certain few. LOL!

Regardless, I think I have shown some trust in you, wouldn't you agree?

Stormcrow wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:

Stormcrow wrote:I'm voting for The Flower.

Any particular reason?

Well, it was between the Flower, the Shield and the Crown, but I picked the Flower because I like the sound and idea of it. Also, there is a tenuous association between that and my real star sign.

Storm Crow - can you let us know what you learned from your vote for the Flower?

LittleTiger wrote:
Just thinking things through, Timmer.... I think we are on the same page, but the way this game has been working, I cannot be sure of anyone except a certain few. LOL!

Regardless, I think I have shown some trust in you, wouldn't you agree?

Oh, for sure, that post jut surprised me is all.

What do you think of bf?

timmer wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:
Just thinking things through, Timmer.... I think we are on the same page, but the way this game has been working, I cannot be sure of anyone except a certain few. LOL!

Regardless, I think I have shown some trust in you, wouldn't you agree?

Oh, for sure, that post jut surprised me is all.

What do you think of bf?

Well, I have not forgotten the D1 Lynch and honestly, I find it incredibly strange that He-man would have voted boomslang instead of BF now that we know boomslang was a team mate. It does make one wonder...

Snake Mountain did some wacky stuff to each other this game, but I really think the best explanation for He-Man's voting his own teammate Day 1 is that Dex is always striving to be zany, not that he had two teammates tied for the lynch.

Flyin' High wrote:Snake Mountain did some wacky stuff to each other this game, but I really think the best explanation for He-Man's voting his own teammate Day 1 is that Dex is always striving to be zany, not that he had two teammates tied for the lynch.

I really don't think Dex is THAT zany that he would throw a team mate under the bus on D1.

LittleTiger wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:Snake Mountain did some wacky stuff to each other this game, but I really think the best explanation for He-Man's voting his own teammate Day 1 is that Dex is always striving to be zany, not that he had two teammates tied for the lynch.

I really don't think Dex is THAT zany that he would throw a team mate under the bus on D1.

Well, whatever his reasons were, I do not think they had anything to do with trying to save Blindfaeth.

Flyin' High wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:Snake Mountain did some wacky stuff to each other this game, but I really think the best explanation for He-Man's voting his own teammate Day 1 is that Dex is always striving to be zany, not that he had two teammates tied for the lynch.

I really don't think Dex is THAT zany that he would throw a team mate under the bus on D1.

Well, whatever his reasons were, I do not think they had anything to do with trying to save Blindfaeth.

So, I think we can assume that you are strongly vouching for BF?

LittleTiger wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:Snake Mountain did some wacky stuff to each other this game, but I really think the best explanation for He-Man's voting his own teammate Day 1 is that Dex is always striving to be zany, not that he had two teammates tied for the lynch.

I really don't think Dex is THAT zany that he would throw a team mate under the bus on D1.

Well, whatever his reasons were, I do not think they had anything to do with trying to save Blindfaeth.

So, I think we can assume that you are strongly vouching for BF?

I feel nothing but good things about BF.

Should I say what the flower revealed? I'm not sure I should.

Kate, its your call. Considering that stormcrow also voted the flower though, i think its very likely that the horde has the info. So if you're withholding it so baddies don't get the info, that might be a moot point. Of course its ultimately your decision to make. The info I gained I thought was best shared with the entire group.

LittleTiger wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:Snake Mountain did some wacky stuff to each other this game, but I really think the best explanation for He-Man's voting his own teammate Day 1 is that Dex is always striving to be zany, not that he had two teammates tied for the lynch.

I really don't think Dex is THAT zany that he would throw a team mate under the bus on D1.

Believe me, after this game I will never fully trust him again. He had so many good reasons to argue why he could not possibly be Snake Mountain, and tbh I'm still surprised we managed to get him lynched, maybe a lot of people thought he'd turn up Horde.

Flyin' High wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:Snake Mountain did some wacky stuff to each other this game, but I really think the best explanation for He-Man's voting his own teammate Day 1 is that Dex is always striving to be zany, not that he had two teammates tied for the lynch.

I really don't think Dex is THAT zany that he would throw a team mate under the bus on D1.

Well, whatever his reasons were, I do not think they had anything to do with trying to save Blindfaeth.

So, I think we can assume that you are strongly vouching for BF?

I feel nothing but good things about BF.

bf who do you think could be the last snake mountaineer?

now im not cross-checking things to take into account attempted kills on players etc but based on what I know and under the assumption the last snake mountaineer has to be at least active enough to log into the website, I think they have to be one of rey, Aces, DP, or Kate. And yes I know Kate is going to throw a fit at me saying I always think she's bad lol.

When I thought there were two SM left, I thought any of Dom, Ishar, the_untamed were also possibilities, but since they haven't logged in to send in PMs, I highly doubt this is the case now.

i think its very interesting that Aces hasn't shown up to discuss/verify the results of choosing the knife

I'm pretty sure Dom is bad. Like, I'd eat a hat if he wasn't.

Ok. The flower told me what items some players hold. I really don't want to say it out loud to make them targets on the off chance storm crow is not bad.

reywaS wrote:I'm pretty sure Dom is bad. Like, I'd eat a hat if he wasn't.

If he's bad then he has to be Horde because Snake Mountain has been sending in their PMs, of that I'm pretty sure, and Dom hasn't even logged into the Syndicate since March 8.

blindfaeth wrote:now im not cross-checking things to take into account attempted kills on players etc but based on what I know and under the assumption the last snake mountaineer has to be at least active enough to log into the website, I think they have to be one of rey, Aces, DP, or Kate. And yes I know Kate is going to throw a fit at me saying I always think she's bad lol.

When I thought there were two SM left, I thought any of Dom, Ishar, the_untamed were also possibilities, but since they haven't logged in to send in PMs, I highly doubt this is the case now.

*throws fit...and throws blindfaeth through a window*

I can't believe no ones looking at indiglo. Fh's case was so strong.

Kate wrote:Ok. The flower told me what items some players hold. I really don't want to say it out loud to make them targets on the off chance storm crow is not bad.

I agree that's probably a bad one to share if there were any doubt in your mind.

So who are we leaning towards? I like the idea of voting spaghetti best, so that SC gets lynched. And for everyone skeptical about the votes shifting the bonus is we're voting spaghetti, I just think its win/win.

I'm not sold on Stormcrow, but I'm sold on Spaghetti, who outright lied about being insanified.

I'd like to see a rey vote, as if it shifts spaghetti dies, and if it doesn't rey dies and he is quiet rey in this game which is baddie rey.

I'm also for an Aces vote. I believe Aces is bad. If the vote doesn't shift down, Aces will die. if it does shift down, based on what bf said and a few other things I know about, I believe MP7 will die.

So either reywaS/Spaghetti

or

Aces/MP7.

It shifts doww?

What about Ishtar?

Kate wrote:It shifts doww?

Or up?

I could get behind an indiglo/ishar lynch as well, the only thing is, I can't see either of them being Snake Mountain, whereas there is at least a chance one of either Aces or rey or spaghetti being SM, imo.

timmer wrote:I could get behind an indiglo/ishar lynch as well, the only thing is, I can't see either of them being Snake Mountain, whereas there is at least a chance one of either Aces or rey or spaghetti being SM, imo.

I like your first two ideas a lot better, but I still feel most comfortable with spaghetti/stormcrow. I don't trust Rey, but I'm not sure about him. However since I know my information to be true I'd be fine voting this way as spaghetti would get the axe.

I'm guessing you can't disclose any additional info asto why I'd survive, because while I want to trust you, I just can't think of a way I'd be protected. The thought of it just makes me nervous.

Kate wrote:

Kate wrote:It shifts doww?

Or up?

Down

Kate wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:now im not cross-checking things to take into account attempted kills on players etc but based on what I know and under the assumption the last snake mountaineer has to be at least active enough to log into the website, I think they have to be one of rey, Aces, DP, or Kate. And yes I know Kate is going to throw a fit at me saying I always think she's bad lol.

When I thought there were two SM left, I thought any of Dom, Ishar, the_untamed were also possibilities, but since they haven't logged in to send in PMs, I highly doubt this is the case now.

*throws fit...and throws blindfaeth through a window*

you DID say next game did you not?

blindfaeth wrote:
I'm guessing you can't disclose any additional info asto why I'd survive, because while I want to trust you, I just can't think of a way I'd be protected. The thought of it just makes me nervous.

I can't, no, I can only ask for your trust, but I totally understand how that makes you nervous, lol. I just want MP gone (no offense, Sockman).

We could always put some votes on rey and some on Spaghetti to cover our bases. A lynch where one of rey, Spaghetti or Stormcrow was going to die would be fine by me. It's a solid list of suspect characters, especially Spaghetti since I know he (she?) outright lied.

In fact, I'm going to vote now. I'm taking the kids to The Croods and can't guarantee I'll be able to pop back in later on.

I'm voting rey. I know Spaghetti lied. I'm trusting bf that the votes will shift down. And if bf lied, rey is way too quiet to be civ.

If you guys go a different route, well we've got a few different options so I think it will all end up okay.

votes rey

Ok well I suppose I have more info I can disclose. Since no one is cooperating in being unified lol.

Frankly I'm surprised you haven't mentioned this timmer.

Anyone wonder why MP hasn't been talking? It's because he's stinkified. And those of you who have been stinkified, know how that affects your vote. My concern is that if we split our votes among a baddie and a non-baddie accidentally, we could easily have a mislynch from mp sneaking in at the very end with his vote.

Linki: sigh

timmer wrote:In fact, I'm going to vote now. I'm taking the kids to The Croods and can't guarantee I'll be able to pop back in later on.

I'm voting rey. I know Spaghetti lied. I'm trusting bf that the votes will shift down. And if bf lied, rey is way too quiet to be civ.

If you guys go a different route, well we've got a few different options so I think it will all end up okay.

votes rey

So, your case is that I'm more quiet than you normally associate my civvie game to be? Anything else? Solid case. I was more vocal in the beginning of the game, wouldn't you agree? Well, something went down about the middle of the game that took me away from the game. The fact is I've been quiet for the last few weeks because for a while I just didn't feel like playing mafia...at all. I got way behind as to what was going on. I've been quiet recently because I don't really have a firm grasp on what's going on. I do know, however, that Dom is definitely a baddie. Its about all that I'm sure of at the moment.

I agree that the Flower info shouldn't be revealed. If this info became public then the baddies would have an advantage. As I have already said, I am unsure of what to post/contribute a lot of the time other than with my vote, therefore I post little. For obvious reasons, I disagree with the idea of voting SE/Stormcrow.

The crown told me that "Skeletor has accepted an invitation from Hordak". It also said that "whatever magic that has been protecting Hordak during the Day have been exhausted.”

blindfaeth wrote:
Anyone wonder why MP hasn't been talking? It's because he's stinkified. And those of you who have been stinkified, know how that affects your vote. My concern is that if we split our votes among a baddie and a non-baddie accidentally, we could easily have a mislynch from mp sneaking in at the very end with his vote.

Linki: sigh

Luckily I'm still around to have seen this. I'm going out the door in a sec, but bf, how do you know MP7 is stinkified? He hasn't posted today, not a single stinkified post. So how do you know, unless you are his teammate?

I can't think that your choice in the night poll told you a) the lynch votes are sliding down b) your votes and MP7's are blended and also c) MP7 is stinkified.

Finding out night actions AND finding out lynch manipulation does NOT make sense the way the poll results have worked.

I think you are MP7's teammate and I strongly suggest people ignore my vote against rey and vote BF, since there is absolutely no way he can know MP is stinkified unless he is his teammate. Either he found out MP7 was stinkified but not about the lynch, or he found out about the lynch but not about the stinkification. The night poll wouldn't give him both, I'm sure of it.

BF is bad.

timmer wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:
Anyone wonder why MP hasn't been talking? It's because he's stinkified. And those of you who have been stinkified, know how that affects your vote. My concern is that if we split our votes among a baddie and a non-baddie accidentally, we could easily have a mislynch from mp sneaking in at the very end with his vote.

Linki: sigh

Luckily I'm still around to have seen this. I'm going out the door in a sec, but bf, how do you know MP7 is stinkified? He hasn't posted today, not a single stinkified post. So how do you know, unless you are his teammate?

I can't think that your choice in the night poll told you a) the lynch votes are sliding down b) your votes and MP7's are blended and also c) MP7 is stinkified.

Finding out night actions AND finding out lynch manipulation does NOT make sense the way the poll results have worked.

I think you are MP7's teammate and I strongly suggest people ignore my vote against rey and vote BF, since there is absolutely no way he can know MP is stinkified unless he is his teammate. Either he found out MP7 was stinkified but not about the lynch, or he found out about the lynch but not about the stinkification. The night poll wouldn't give him both, I'm sure of it.

BF is bad.

But... but.... why didn't YOU mention it? That is a hugely important piece of information and you didn't share - you could have said MP is stinkified! And what about FH vouching for BF?

Timmer I know because the knife told me how much everyones votes are worth and iused logic. I know that dom is also stinkified. All threeof you had the same vote worth. The fact mp hasnt bedn around but is posting elsewhere verifies its true

timmer wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:
Anyone wonder why MP hasn't been talking? It's because he's stinkified. And those of you who have been stinkified, know how that affects your vote. My concern is that if we split our votes among a baddie and a non-baddie accidentally, we could easily have a mislynch from mp sneaking in at the very end with his vote.

Linki: sigh

Luckily I'm still around to have seen this. I'm going out the door in a sec, but bf, how do you know MP7 is stinkified? He hasn't posted today, not a single stinkified post. So how do you know, unless you are his teammate?

I can't think that your choice in the night poll told you a) the lynch votes are sliding down b) your votes and MP7's are blended and also c) MP7 is stinkified.

Finding out night actions AND finding out lynch manipulation does NOT make sense the way the poll results have worked.

I think you are MP7's teammate and I strongly suggest people ignore my vote against rey and vote BF, since there is absolutely no way he can know MP is stinkified unless he is his teammate. Either he found out MP7 was stinkified but not about the lynch, or he found out about the lynch but not about the stinkification. The night poll wouldn't give him both, I'm sure of it.

BF is bad.

I've been saying that I think BF is bad ever since we lynched He-Man. And nobody would listen to me. Also about lying about being stinkor'd, I explained myself, didn't I? what part of it still makes you think I'm bad?

blindfaeth wrote:Timmer I know because the knife told me how much everyones votes are worth and iused logic. I know that dom is also stinkified. All threeof you had the same vote worth. The fact mp hasnt bedn around but is posting elsewhere verifies its true

And it also told you that votes move down?

Civvies lying about how much info they have is one thing. Lying about being stinkified is another. It reeks of a baddie wanting to fly under the radar bc no one can understand u.