The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:47 pm guys

omfg

doom used the strongman check

it cannot be messed with by any mechanics

i thought this was clear and should not still be a question

falcon obviously knows this as his only recourse is saying "she's lying" rather than saying it could be mechanically wrong

Now i get it, thanks for explaining it

Falcon has no other choice than saying she's lying tbh

and the VC

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:35 pm Oh BTW I'm not Spiderman Noir, nor do I have a red check

I've just had a good time seeing reactions

Probably going to vote Chardonnay today

Oh, I wasn't red checked.


I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

I am very sure Chardonnay has played the day like a mafia would when someone claims a redcheck

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:35 pm Oh BTW I'm not Spiderman Noir, nor do I have a red check

I've just had a good time seeing reactions

Geez

Also Falcon is most likely still mafia but who cares

Mac is the first person that comes to mind as someone who'd shoot Nanook Night 1.

meh if he's not red checked then I think he's town

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DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:40 pm Also Falcon is most likely still mafia but who cares

The post below tries to secure an anticlaim kill most probably

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:08 pm DoO, are you hard claiming Spiderman Noir?

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Ugh, now I need to actually try to figure out who scum is before EoD today? I was so happy when I came in late and saw a mech-lock, it would have given me time to develop reads without having to stress about time.

I guess I'll start isoing random people.

Daisy made a scummy post saying if falcon flips town we turbo lynch doom which if they are both town like I think then uh yeah

uhhh wtf ok

um

still think falc's reactions were largely bad?

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:39 pm I am very sure Chardonnay has played the day like a mafia would when someone claims a redcheck

i mean it still depends on if the redcheck was true right? like mafia would react resigned-ly if they assume one of them is caught

so are they teammates or is char suspect even if falc is town and they knew it was fake/wrong?

This game is too big for my very smooth brain

Someone smart just tell me what to do please

also marmot still scummy

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:45 pm Daisy made a scummy post saying if falcon flips town we turbo lynch doom which if they are both town like I think then uh yeah

mmmmmm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:56 am falcon
marmot
reywas

3 down

You wrong.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:56 am if not reywas then *maybe* made

It’s not Me. You’re stuck on a feeling. I have no
Info on 112. I feel like you are just stuck on this idea and are refusing to think it may have been any other sort of way.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:33 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:55 pm if falcon is scum what do you make of the early 112 wagon

especially if we think reywas is scum too

maybe there was 2 scum on 112 like predicted

So we day vig Falcon and lynch reywaS yaaah.

This idea is shite

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:36 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:28 am

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:27 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:24 am

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:23 am is the Esooa here the same Esooa I played a game with recently on MU?

yes

cool! hi! yay! let's hunt scum together again! I don't want to fight or anything, okay? ♡

This is the classic pocket post. "Let's not fight!"

Meaning you are treating them as town immediately even though you weren't around at day one at all. Have no reads.

Interesting

hmmm, not what I meant at all. that MU game i was extremely awkward and I felt like antagonized literally everyone. I felt (and I think I projected this too) that everyone was against me.

I simply don't want to do that in this game. I don't want anyone who is playing this game who played the last game with me to think that.

I can see though from an outside prospective that someone might think it is a pocket attempt.

I honestly don't know what Esooa's alignment is or isn't. I do plan on going through Esooa's iso and see what I find.

so far most of my reads is null. it is disconcerting but I tend to have more null reads then most think I should.

I have you as Town. and no it is not an attempt to sway you in anyway by saying that. just it's pretty much a given based on what you are claiming. I don't see a world where a wolf would attempt what you are doing this day phase.

I always have mostly null reads as I always do. It’s gotten me
In trouble in the last two games I’ve played on this site. I need tons of context before I’m confident about players. I’m sorry that I am not more naturally good at reading people’s early games. Anyone that would lynch me would be making a mighty error. My role is very cool and useful. An info role is always good, yeah?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:57 am What if falcon, reywaS and Macdougall are mafia?

That'd mean I called out all three in Day 1. No no no, I can't be that good.

Falcon and marmot both read scummy to me. Mac seems towny. DOO and Daisy have me nodding my head as I read them. Nutella is stuck on me and I don’t understand it. So are but you seem less original with your ideas.

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:45 am Mafia team from my pov is
Mac, reywas, falcon and then probably others. Gut read kyle as town, but i could just in his shirt pocket. I don't see how kyle falls into that group.

I also feel like we need to take a little step back and think of the optics of Guillotine's voters switching to 112 if 112 is LW. This would mean it was wolf wagon to a wolf wagon from mafia pov. I don't know what that does for us exactly, but it does make me town read him further.

Lies

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:12 am I'm gonna keep talking to myself and make a little rainbow list because I can't sleep ever:

KZA
Omega
Radishes
Nutella
Daisy
Esooa
Guillotine
G-Man
McDonald
Grogu

BoKnows - He's just screaming TWTBW to me but I can't ignore the objectively scummy things he's said. This is a weird read since I'm heavily considering BK's inexperience.
Enrique - Simply has not posted enough
Seanzie - Simply has not posted enough
Epignosis - No clue what to expect from him tbh, I guess he's a coinflip for me

Chardonnay - I really have not noticed this player very much? Probably overdue for an ISO
Marmot - Hard to explain. I kind of agree with what Omega said earlier today about "this is a Mafia post". Also seems very different from Shadow Corridors where they were scum which is making me hesitant
Michelle - Fluffy iso
Kyle - Similar to Chardonnay, has existed in the thread but failed to ping me in either direction and I should try an ISO
reywaS - I was really concerned about the wagon on them since I'm opposed to chopping low posters and feel it's an easy way out for scum... but they haven't given much inspiration since dodging the chop

Made - I think there's precisely one wolf between him and Mac and I'm on the Made train
Falcon

112 - Honourary town, bless
Lordquas - Some sort of immortal demon, seems cool

So yeah that's my standing and PoE. Numbers suggest at least one of my town reads is dead wrong but I'll just work from here.

As I said above, I am not great with early game reads. It’s too much information for my ADD brain to take in. I’m always better when I have a lot of context. I’m just not there yet but I am keeping up and will supply what I can when I can. I promise you that.

I just started page 70 I think so I will respond to stuff I read as I can fit it in between chores.

doom what would you have done if the dayvig had hit falcon before you rescinded, in either flip case

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:48 pm This game is too big for my very smooth brain

Someone smart just tell me what to do please

Never vote me.

Don't trust redchecks from DoO.

Otherwise you're on your own.

Just finished 68 I should say

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:49 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:48 pm This game is too big for my very smooth brain

Someone smart just tell me what to do please

Never vote me.

Don't trust redchecks from DoO.

Otherwise you're on your own.

I see. Noted.

I don’t think if we’ve played together, so hi! Nice to meet you!

So like... just spitballing here, but is it possible DoO is actually scum and wanted to try to get PT reads? (being CC'd could give one, Falcon claiming could give one, plus other mech talk could give multiple) With the added benefit of possibly flipping Falcon (whom in this tinfoil universe I am spinning is town) via dayvig or just via sowing seeds of distrust in the thread?

I only briefly skimmed like 15 pages of D1 so don't trust me if there is good reason to townread DoO.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:49 pm doom what would you have done if the dayvig had hit falcon before you rescinded, in either flip case

it really depends on the what his alignment is

if mafia I stick to the hardclaim and force mafia to kill me

if he is town we have a long talk lol

Though this is why I told the dayvig not to shoot

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:49 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:48 pm This game is too big for my very smooth brain

Someone smart just tell me what to do please

Never vote me.

Don't trust redchecks from DoO.

Otherwise you're on your own.

I see. Noted.

I don’t think if we’ve played together, so hi! Nice to meet you!

Hi! We did play together (Bike Mafia), but you got yeeted D1 because you liked the cut of my jib.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:53 pm So like... just spitballing here, but is it possible DoO is actually scum and wanted to try to get PT reads? (being CC'd could give one, Falcon claiming could give one, plus other mech talk could give multiple) With the added benefit of possibly flipping Falcon (whom in this tinfoil universe I am spinning is town) via dayvig or just via sowing seeds of distrust in the thread?

I only briefly skimmed like 15 pages of D1 so don't trust me if there is good reason to townread DoO.

No, and this is a scummy take

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:54 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:53 pm So like... just spitballing here, but is it possible DoO is actually scum and wanted to try to get PT reads? (being CC'd could give one, Falcon claiming could give one, plus other mech talk could give multiple) With the added benefit of possibly flipping Falcon (whom in this tinfoil universe I am spinning is town) via dayvig or just via sowing seeds of distrust in the thread?

I only briefly skimmed like 15 pages of D1 so don't trust me if there is good reason to townread DoO.

No, and this is a scummy take

Why is that? Because it is about you? OMGUS isn't really a great way to build scumreads.

You lied to the thread. Minimally that is anti-town. Possibly scummy. I'm not sure how considering the possibility that you had non-noble intentions is scummy, rather than just doing my due diligence.

You also have shaded tons of people for extremely weak reasons today. Is this normal for you?

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:35 pm Oh BTW I'm not Spiderman Noir, nor do I have a red check

I've just had a good time seeing reactions

Rather long fishing trip you took. I’m not sure what to make of it, but...

1) I’m glad you came clean when you did rather than wasting the whole phase. Half (more like 40%) is still suboptimal, as it may have sapped momentum from the game on a day that already has plenty of distractions.

2) I’m glad I didn’t get caught up in your ruse. I knew I wasn’t going to be around much this phase, so I’m glad that I can still try to sort something out in the few hours I can devote to the game tomorrow.

3) I’m glad that I could take yet another screenshot to mull over! Which of KSA, nutella, Epi, Gil, Seanzie, Michelle, Grogu, and Quas are sleazy mafia opportunists?

So what have you learned about people from their posts that I haven’t read?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:54 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:49 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:48 pm This game is too big for my very smooth brain

Someone smart just tell me what to do please

Never vote me.

Don't trust redchecks from DoO.

Otherwise you're on your own.

I see. Noted.

I don’t think if we’ve played together, so hi! Nice to meet you!

Hi! We did play together (Bike Mafia), but you got yeeted D1 because you liked the cut of my jib.

Yes. That does sound like a thing that would happen. Regardless good seeing you. Hopefully we both survive a few more days unless you’re bad.
If you are bad tho, I’d really appreciate if you could point us to your teammates! that’d be pretty dope cuz then we wouldn’t have to vote you super early!

Here's the thing, Falcon could have shutdown the redcheck at any moment by claiming his character. This is a completely open setup, you should ask yourself why he was so scared to do so under the threat of a redcheck.

If he is mafia he knows that if he claims a town role, there is a living player who has that role and will immediately CC him, so in essence it is impossible for Falcon to claim anything as mafia.

ROTFL- everytime someone writes ‘redcheck’ as one word like that, my brain interprets it as ‘redneck’ at first.

People who lack mechanical understanding of a completely open setup trying to tell me that I am either being scummy or have wasted the day.

All you are doing is either claiming mafia or showing your lack of understanding the game of mafia.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:35 pm Oh BTW I'm not Spiderman Noir, nor do I have a red check

I've just had a good time seeing reactions

What the actual fuck?!

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:59 pm Here's the thing, Falcon could have shutdown the redcheck at any moment by claiming his character. This is a completely open setup, you should ask yourself why he was so scared to do so under the threat of a redcheck.

If he is mafia he knows that if he claims a town role, there is a living player who has that role and will immediately CC him, so in essence it is impossible for Falcon to claim anything as mafia.

Why did you claim (or more accurately hint at) a town role that you are not?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:26 pm

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:36 pm

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:33 pm michelle might be a wolf tbh

expanding on this, her content to filler interaction ratio is very bad

also her joining the bandwagon on tsp eod without literally a single mention of him at ALL in her iso ever is nagl

You didn't really read my Iso isn't it?

i mean all of what i said was just factual

I'm going to filter out which of you shading me is the mafia, don't worry about it

pretty sure that the fps was anti town tbh

wasted a lot of SoD discussion and the dayvig could have blasted

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:03 pm pretty sure that the fps was anti town tbh

wasted a lot of SoD discussion and the dayvig could have blasted

Dayvig wasn't used, and there are a ton of useful things if you spend the brain power.

Stop this nonsense

As of this moment my 8 man poe is

Chardonnay
DaisyCloud
Epignosis
Falcon
Esooa
Marmot
Seanzie
Reywas

Morning. I am on the precipice of death. Someone give me the cliffs for the last 12 to 18 hours.

tbh as someone who has been on the receiving end of more red checks as town then probably anyone in existence

i think trying to decipher the reaction of someone who doesnt blatantly give up is very hard to impossible

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:59 pm Here's the thing, Falcon could have shutdown the redcheck at any moment by claiming his character. This is a completely open setup, you should ask yourself why he was so scared to do so under the threat of a redcheck.

If he is mafia he knows that if he claims a town role, there is a living player who has that role and will immediately CC him, so in essence it is impossible for Falcon to claim anything as mafia.

So, there is this thing called a soup kill, which makes claiming EXTREMELY disadvantageous.

I see what you're saying, but I don't think your logic checks out. There are four possibilities:

1. Falcon is town, Falcon doesn't claim: actually pretty reasonable since as I laid out, the only situation which this happens in is where you are either lying or Mafia. In both cases, it really doesn't benefit Falcon to claim.

2. Falcon is town, Falcon claims: Sure, he is "protected" from your lie, but then he gets soup killed the first time scum tries to soup kill. This gives scum an extra NK for free. Not good.

3. Falcon is scum, Falcon doesn't claim: If you wouldn't have admitted your lie, Falcon would have been lunched today, and scum would have nothing to show for it.

4. Falcon is scum, Falcon does claim: Maybe no one CC's, in which case you would probably back off, and Falcon would look very towny afterwards. Maybe someone does CC, Falcon goes down, but now scum has a soup kill target, giving them an extra NK as compensation for Falcon's death.

So... honestly, I think it is MORE likely that Falcon is town because he didn't claim. There is NO benefit to town!Falcon from claiming (he will just be soup killed eventually), but there IS benefit to wolf!Falcon for claiming (it gives scum a soup kill target).

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:04 pm

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:03 pm pretty sure that the fps was anti town tbh

wasted a lot of SoD discussion and the dayvig could have blasted

Dayvig wasn't used, and there are a ton of useful things if you spend the brain power.

Stop this nonsense

you got me culled d1 as a town with a red peek once i think im allowed to critique it a little :P

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:06 pm As of this moment my 8 man poe is

Chardonnay
DaisyCloud
Epignosis
Falcon
Esooa
Marmot
Seanzie
Reywas

largely agree with this poe regardless

and i dont think its end of the world or anything

just dont think it ended up being that useful, thats all

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:42 pm Mac is the first person that comes to mind as someone who'd shoot Nanook Night 1.

This is a bad take. Nanook is an easy pocket for me.

like i think falcons response could ez come from town