The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:17 pm**

I'm not voting until everyone checks in, yeah.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:18 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:00 pm like from your perspective you should be wolf casing literally everyone, even the "soup clears" as hard as you possibly can to not only show that you're town but also to find the last wolf. But you're really not. You're focusing on me and Lime as the softest clears.

Surely you'd be trying to dig into Alison as she's the one the wolves would have gotten wrong based on what's been said in thread up to that point.
I just don't get it

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:54 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:52 pm why aren't you hammering that scotty?
Hammering what
That if we're wrong today and wolf has a soup available we just lose
I think I have mentioned the possibility that this could be MYLO. I don’t need to put it on a sign and glue it to my forehead.

No one is “cleared”, but a lot of the soup people have good
Town equity, and what I’m seeing and saying is that LC has the least town equity in the rest of the list. Would you disagree with that?

You mean do I think LC is the most likely wolf in the soup? no. I don't think there is a likely wolf in the soup.

You also were certain that TH was bad.

As were *most* of us.

I’m asking you to open your mind, Quaid

If there were someone bad in the soup, who would you think is bad?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:19 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:18 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:00 pm like from your perspective you should be wolf casing literally everyone, even the "soup clears" as hard as you possibly can to not only show that you're town but also to find the last wolf. But you're really not. You're focusing on me and Lime as the softest clears.

Surely you'd be trying to dig into Alison as she's the one the wolves would have gotten wrong based on what's been said in thread up to that point.
I just don't get it

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:54 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:52 pm why aren't you hammering that scotty?
Hammering what
That if we're wrong today and wolf has a soup available we just lose
I think I have mentioned the possibility that this could be MYLO. I don’t need to put it on a sign and glue it to my forehead.

No one is “cleared”, but a lot of the soup people have good
Town equity, and what I’m seeing and saying is that LC has the least town equity in the rest of the list. Would you disagree with that?

You mean do I think LC is the most likely wolf in the soup? no. I don't think there is a likely wolf in the soup.
You also were certain that TH was bad.

As were *most* of us.

I’m asking you to open your mind, Quaid

If there were someone bad in the soup, who would you think is bad?

I already said I'm victim blaming TH for this lol

If someone in the soup is bad it's.....

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:20 pm**

If someone is bad in the soup I would say it's LC.

I have seen no evidence that someone is bad in the soup though.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:42 pm**

Hello everyone, I finally got a moment to check in during work and I've looked through what's happened during the day.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:44 pm**

First thing that was getting me was the night results. I didn't understand, but seeing what Alison and HK were saying I'm getting what's going on.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:07 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:16 am
A Soup Kill Has Been Attempted!

The following soup kill has been submitted:

MacDougall - Ascetic
Dolby - Lie Detector
Lime Coke - Doctor
Alison - Bomb Giver

One or more of these players has been wrongly matched to their roles, as a result, the soup kill fails and the mafia team will lose their factional kill for tonight.

All the people in the soup kill look town to me honestly.

Mac got targeted by a few maf abilities and has been a strong presence throughout the game.

Dolby lie detected and killed a wolf.

Lime Coke is the best of the flavored Cokes.

Alison killed a wolf during night 1 and got kidnapped in the same night.

The only one NOT on this list was HollowKat who has already been dusted off, flip town, and resurrected.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:07 pm**

Do you have any night results to share?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:14 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:07 pm Do you have any night results to share?

No

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:37 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:07 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:16 am
A Soup Kill Has Been Attempted!

The following soup kill has been submitted:

MacDougall - Ascetic
Dolby - Lie Detector
Lime Coke - Doctor
Alison - Bomb Giver

One or more of these players has been wrongly matched to their roles, as a result, the soup kill fails and the mafia team will lose their factional kill for tonight.

All the people in the soup kill look town to me honestly.

Mac got targeted by a few maf abilities and has been a strong presence throughout the game.

Dolby lie detected and killed a wolf.

Lime Coke is the best of the flavored Cokes.

Alison killed a wolf during night 1 and got kidnapped in the same night.

The only one NOT on this list was HollowKat who has already been dusted off, flip town, and resurrected.

Wait, remind me when alison claimed she killed Michelle?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:49 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:19 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:18 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:00 pm like from your perspective you should be wolf casing literally everyone, even the "soup clears" as hard as you possibly can to not only show that you're town but also to find the last wolf. But you're really not. You're focusing on me and Lime as the softest clears.

Surely you'd be trying to dig into Alison as she's the one the wolves would have gotten wrong based on what's been said in thread up to that point.
I just don't get it

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:54 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:52 pm why aren't you hammering that scotty?
Hammering what
That if we're wrong today and wolf has a soup available we just lose
I think I have mentioned the possibility that this could be MYLO. I don’t need to put it on a sign and glue it to my forehead.

No one is “cleared”, but a lot of the soup people have good
Town equity, and what I’m seeing and saying is that LC has the least town equity in the rest of the list. Would you disagree with that?

You mean do I think LC is the most likely wolf in the soup? no. I don't think there is a likely wolf in the soup.
You also were certain that TH was bad.

As were *most* of us.

I’m asking you to open your mind, Quaid

If there were someone bad in the soup, who would you think is bad?
I already said I'm victim blaming TH for this lol

If someone in the soup is bad it's.....
Spoiler: show
dolby

Tell me about this angle

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:51 pm**

Has that shitty gun ability that backfires and depowerizes been revealed in a role yet? Dolby seemed to know a lot about it

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:52 pm**

Wait wait wait
If Dolby’s role literally confesses to lie detecting, he is the easiest soup target ever.

Like, he’s part of the soup regardless. Why hasn’t he claimed his full role?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:55 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:01 pm I am 80% sure I had something to do with Michelle's death. 20% chance there was other fuckery going on given this is a Guillo bastard game. Notes from yesterday:

1) Flea looks good for poring through my ISO to look for scum suspects on a day where the scum wanted to shut me up.

2) People who expressed paranoia about me arranging my own kidnap to make myself look good get town points. Most of the time when scum openly sabotages someone they're already internally accepting that player will get towncleared off it, and I doubt scum kidnaps me if they thought they could seriously raise suspicion on me.

3) Ender has to go. Three wagons at D1 were mansnicks/HK/Ender, and two of those have flipped town. The ferocity and volume of vote movement suggests that scum cared which of them died. Ender has done nothing really unfakeable as scum other than write a few walls and I suspect his D1 wagon may have been entirely clear.

This was the claim that Alison was responsible for Michelle's death.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:56 pm**

@Dolby if you still have that lie detector ability, it is in best interest to resolve me with that ability

Again, I am town.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:57 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:55 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:01 pm I am 80% sure I had something to do with Michelle's death. 20% chance there was other fuckery going on given this is a Guillo bastard game. Notes from yesterday:

1) Flea looks good for poring through my ISO to look for scum suspects on a day where the scum wanted to shut me up.

2) People who expressed paranoia about me arranging my own kidnap to make myself look good get town points. Most of the time when scum openly sabotages someone they're already internally accepting that player will get towncleared off it, and I doubt scum kidnaps me if they thought they could seriously raise suspicion on me.

3) Ender has to go. Three wagons at D1 were mansnicks/HK/Ender, and two of those have flipped town. The ferocity and volume of vote movement suggests that scum cared which of them died. Ender has done nothing really unfakeable as scum other than write a few walls and I suspect his D1 wagon may have been entirely clear.
This was the claim that Alison was responsible for Michelle's death.

Gotcha thank you

Gun to head: if you had to name one person mafia in the Soup Kill, who would it be?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:57 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:56 pm @Dolby if you still have that lie detector ability, it is in best interest to resolve me with that ability

Again, I am town.

if his judgement day is anything like mine when I randed it on MU it was a 1x ability.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:58 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:56 pm @Dolby if you still have that lie detector ability, it is in best interest to resolve me with that ability

Again, I am town.
if his judgement day is anything like mine when I randed it on MU it was a 1x ability.

Mm

So again, why is Dolby your mark if you had to choose in soup?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:59 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:19 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:18 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:00 pm like from your perspective you should be wolf casing literally everyone, even the "soup clears" as hard as you possibly can to not only show that you're town but also to find the last wolf. But you're really not. You're focusing on me and Lime as the softest clears.

Surely you'd be trying to dig into Alison as she's the one the wolves would have gotten wrong based on what's been said in thread up to that point.
I just don't get it

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:54 pm

Hammering what
That if we're wrong today and wolf has a soup available we just lose
I think I have mentioned the possibility that this could be MYLO. I don’t need to put it on a sign and glue it to my forehead.

No one is “cleared”, but a lot of the soup people have good
Town equity, and what I’m seeing and saying is that LC has the least town equity in the rest of the list. Would you disagree with that?

You mean do I think LC is the most likely wolf in the soup? no. I don't think there is a likely wolf in the soup.
You also were certain that TH was bad.

As were *most* of us.

I’m asking you to open your mind, Quaid

If there were someone bad in the soup, who would you think is bad?
I already said I'm victim blaming TH for this lol

If someone in the soup is bad it's.....
Spoiler: show
dolby

Tell me about this angle

his game has been perfectly cromulent, the shot on TSP is easy to pass off as "HK said he had a red" and Ender didn't have to die there.
on the other hand, those are exactly the reasons why he's town.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:02 pm**

Exactly my thinking. He’s either the towniest of towns or he’s a plant doing everything to look textbook town and I’m wavering because I know that I am town and I think you are so it simply has to be one of you towny people

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:02 pm**

anyways, I town read dolby, alison, mac, and lime.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:02 pm**

Why is Lime Coke town to you, HK?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:02 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:57 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:55 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:01 pm I am 80% sure I had something to do with Michelle's death. 20% chance there was other fuckery going on given this is a Guillo bastard game. Notes from yesterday:

1) Flea looks good for poring through my ISO to look for scum suspects on a day where the scum wanted to shut me up.

2) People who expressed paranoia about me arranging my own kidnap to make myself look good get town points. Most of the time when scum openly sabotages someone they're already internally accepting that player will get towncleared off it, and I doubt scum kidnaps me if they thought they could seriously raise suspicion on me.

3) Ender has to go. Three wagons at D1 were mansnicks/HK/Ender, and two of those have flipped town. The ferocity and volume of vote movement suggests that scum cared which of them died. Ender has done nothing really unfakeable as scum other than write a few walls and I suspect his D1 wagon may have been entirely clear.
This was the claim that Alison was responsible for Michelle's death.
Gotcha thank you

Gun to head: if you had to name one person mafia in the Soup Kill, who would it be?

The only other person is Dolby. But I don't see scum using their ability to take out their own teammate. Pretty much the same way I've felt about HK's cop claim.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:05 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:02 pm Why is Lime Coke town to you, HK?

ugh you're gonna make me think. I just want to chop you on auto-pilot lol

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:07 pm**

The way I see it is exactly how Alison has described- the souper only knows a portion of what I do, so I think I’m safe there. They don’t know Alison. So even if they soup the other 2 (and HK if a vanilla can be souped), that’ll leave us with 3 left: me, Alison and the souper.

Which is why they probably won’t soup today.

Is there a flaw in that logic?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:08 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:05 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:02 pm Why is Lime Coke town to you, HK?
ugh you're gonna make me think. I just want to chop you on auto-pilot lol

I can see that. And if what we’ve come to the conclusion on that this could be MYLO it’s a bad idea

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:09 pm**

Lime town reasons:
soup
acceptable votes
soup
pushes that made sense at the time even if they were wrong

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:09 pm**

There are two wolves left alive imo.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:10 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:09 pm Lime town reasons:
soup
acceptable votes
soup
pushes that made sense at the time even if they were wrong

Dead town godread.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:10 pm**

Is there ANY way Mac is bad? I can write off his insanification as a gambit he would do. The gun thing? Lying about being an ascetic with shitty powers? Yea, maybe.
But he’s a strong presence! Yea, I was just in a game with him as a strong presence and was all over the place- mafia.

I just don’t want to believe it. My gut says no

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:10 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:07 pm The way I see it is exactly how Alison has described- the souper only knows a portion of what I do, so I think I’m safe there. They don’t know Alison. So even if they soup the other 2 (and HK if a vanilla can be souped), that’ll leave us with 3 left: me, Alison and the souper.

Which is why they probably won’t soup today.

Is there a flaw in that logic?

ok, so if there's soup they only need to know one of your abilities, not all three.
They can soup mac via ascetic, me via vanilla, dolby via lie detector, and LC via doctor
That would leave you, alison, and lime coke. If soup is still an option I'd go for that today if I were a wolf that isn't named scotty

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:11 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:10 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:07 pm The way I see it is exactly how Alison has described- the souper only knows a portion of what I do, so I think I’m safe there. They don’t know Alison. So even if they soup the other 2 (and HK if a vanilla can be souped), that’ll leave us with 3 left: me, Alison and the souper.

Which is why they probably won’t soup today.

Is there a flaw in that logic?
ok, so if there's soup they only need to know one of your abilities, not all three.
They can soup mac via ascetic, me via vanilla, dolby via lie detector, and LC via doctor
That would leave you, alison, and lime coke. If soup is still an option I'd go for that today if I were a wolf that isn't named scotty

I triple dog dare them.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:11 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:09 pm There are two wolves left alive imo.

if there's two one of the soup targets is a wolf

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:12 pm**

I was kinda hoping that would trigger an ability like TH’s LIAR but nah

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:13 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:09 pm There are two wolves left alive imo.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:09 pm There are two wolves left alive imo.
if there's two one of the soup targets is a wolf

Or 2…

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:14 pm**

So Alison got kidnapped n1. I got cursed n2. This peeked role apparently did nothing n3. So that clearly means that the tactician redistributed on n3. Martin originally had the curse power. Died d4 which released me from the curse.

Question is why the person with these roles has not made a single action since.

And where is the wolf who did the card swapping on n2 that was clearly originally Nanook?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:14 pm**

Man, waiting around for Dolby is gonna be a real drag. It’s like I’m missing 75 pieces from my 1000 piece puzzle

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:14 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:09 pm There are two wolves left alive imo.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:09 pm There are two wolves left alive imo.
if there's two one of the soup targets is a wolf
Or 2…

I hate end games. Mean wolves didn't kill me hard enough/mean host giving me resurrection ability

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:15 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:14 pm So Alison got kidnapped n1. I got cursed n2. This peeked role apparently did nothing n3. So that clearly means that the tactician redistributed on n3. Martin originally had the curse power. Died d4 which released me from the curse.

Question is why the person with these roles has not made a single action since.

And where is the wolf who did the card swapping on n2 that was clearly originally Nanook?

You started your insanification at exactly 7 hours after D3 started. I think it might have been the D3/N3 cycle

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:16 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:14 pm So Alison got kidnapped n1. I got cursed n2. This peeked role apparently did nothing n3. So that clearly means that the tactician redistributed on n3. Martin originally had the curse power. Died d4 which released me from the curse.

Question is why the person with these roles has not made a single action since.

And where is the wolf who did the card swapping on n2 that was clearly originally Nanook?
You started your insanification at exactly 7 hours after D3 started. I think it might have been the D3/N3 cycle

I am pretty sure it was a n2 action the host just forgot the process initially.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:16 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:14 pm So Alison got kidnapped n1. I got cursed n2. This peeked role apparently did nothing n3. So that clearly means that the tactician redistributed on n3. Martin originally had the curse power. Died d4 which released me from the curse.

Question is why the person with these roles has not made a single action since.

And where is the wolf who did the card swapping on n2 that was clearly originally Nanook?

Didn’t Dolby say they had honey’s flavor card? Looks like creature swapped with him, if my deduction is correct

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:17 pm**

I think it is exceedingly clear by the wording of the role and Martin flipping tactician that he held my curse. Otherwise I would still be cursed.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:18 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:16 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:14 pm So Alison got kidnapped n1. I got cursed n2. This peeked role apparently did nothing n3. So that clearly means that the tactician redistributed on n3. Martin originally had the curse power. Died d4 which released me from the curse.

Question is why the person with these roles has not made a single action since.

And where is the wolf who did the card swapping on n2 that was clearly originally Nanook?
Didn’t Dolby say they had honey’s flavor card? Looks like creature swapped with him, if my deduction is correct

Card swapping is an odd night function.

There were several swaps through Nanook on n2 that nobody claimed.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:19 pm**

@Lime Coke you sent me your card right?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:27 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:19 pm @Lime Coke you sent me your card right?

Yes I ended up with your card.

Tbh I wish I had it earlier.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:27 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:19 pm @Lime Coke you sent me your card right?

Yes I ended up with your card.

Tbh I wish I had it earlier.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:28 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:19 pm @Lime Coke you sent me your card right?

Yes I ended up with your card.

Tbh I wish I had it earlier.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:28 pm**

Aight so if there is just one wolf alive and it's the role peek then the soup is real because mafia have no function to make that fake post.

So in that world it's just Scotty.

In two maf worlds it's Scotty and probably LC. With one of them having a card swapping role as well as some sort of similar role to Seanzie's gambit role and probably also a role that insanifies flips.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:28 pm**

Why the fuck did that send 3 times?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:28 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:19 pm @Lime Coke you sent me your card right?
Yes I ended up with your card.

Tbh I wish I had it earlier.

why? your card is better.

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