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Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:47 pm
by DrWilgy
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:40 pm
Dolby wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:33 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:32 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:28 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:26 pm
YOU are making narratives i didn't say. i'm saying there's not traction to a wilgy wagon sticking. WHY?

i'm saying wolves are comfortable on two easy wagons between me and LP because it's t/t and maybe some lone wolves voting randomly. maybe sig is a wolf and not voting at all.

no one is interested in making wilgy a wagon despite a pretty strong case against him tbh because wolves are pushing two town up for back to back misyeets.
Because I'm not scum. The people I find scummy are 100% more likely to be scum.

I am expert wolf hunter even when busy.

Come at me mom.
sorry, son, i gots to do what i gots to do.

your sparkle isn't there. your conviction im wolf is not even genuine to me.
Nor is it genuine to me.

I can't tell if I'm wrong about you.

My entire thinking is that it's between you and Urist (WHO I STILL THINK IS A GOOD OPTION WHERE WE AT FAM?) has not been abated or appeased yet though.

I will say, independently of you/Urist and a hankering I have towards wolfmot, LP is a pretty great option.
do you have any townreads?

any take on which of urist and dunya is wolf?
Rationally, I think it is Dunya. I like and from what I read at least, agree with Marmot's point. Plus Dunya continues to play in wolf range.

When I add emotion and gut to the read, I think it's Urist. There are patterns that I can't point out or describe that's giving me some real fear of this slot. Also if Dunya has teammates, I have no clue who they are. If Urist has teammates, I feel like I could figure them out (still leaning Marmot and LP if Urist is scum)

so 60/40 Dunya.

Town leads include
Chicken
Dolby (could say you, but listing this for convenience later)
Dya
HK
Joh
Syn

I think NAA, Scotty, Sig, TSP currently are PoE choices after I've figured out the Urist debacle.

I don't know how to feel about Marmot. I think I can often point out his town game, but something is weird. idk what it is.

Sig should be thousand cutted.

Can you at least tell us what is weird about my play in this game even if you can't describe why it's weird or how it's AI?
That's the thing. I can't really. It's entirely perception based and something about you is off currently. You feel like an imitation, but it's so good that I can't say if it's purposeful (which would indicate wolf) or not (a town where something is effecting play/style/tone.) That's the best I can describe it.

It's like uncanny valley but in mafia is the best way to describe it.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:47 pm
by Syn
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:46 pm is dolby in scum range @Syn
I don't know how to read this era of Dolby tbh. I really only played with him when he loved himself less and was hyper analytical in mafia.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:48 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:45 pm
dyachei wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:33 pm
dyachei wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:28 pm i mean i think your pre-flip world is wolfy. and i think it allows you to line up elims.
How? Because if Dunya is a townie, nothing I've "lined up" does anything at all, does it?
it all depends on how it changes your reads, if it does
Then how can you say it's wolfy? Why wouldn't my reads (made up or not) change if they're all based on something that is proven to be incorrect?
Like if I'm lining up Scotty and Urist and you @dyachei as misyeets under the idea that you're defending wolf Dunya, and then we yeet Dunya and she's town (because I'm not), then how the heck am I supposed to continue those lined up pushes that have been proven to be wrong? I don't get it. Help me understand your perspective.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:48 pm
by DrWilgy
Further, it may not even be you. It could be entirely me. Stress may just be effecting how I'm perceiving you and making it hard to find a conclusion.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:48 pm
by Syn
well well well

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:49 pm
by Dolby
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:47 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:46 pm is dolby in scum range @Syn
I don't know how to read this era of Dolby tbh. I really only played with him when he loved himself less and was hyper analytical in mafia.
am I coming off as egotistical rn lol

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:49 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:47 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:46 pm is dolby in scum range @Syn
I don't know how to read this era of Dolby tbh. I really only played with him when he loved himself less and was hyper analytical in mafia.
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Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:49 pm
by dunya
ugh this game is ruff on my senses

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:50 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
NAA wagon is crazy

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:50 pm
by dyachei
becuse people often find excuses to continue wolf reading the people they wolf read, jack

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:50 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:36 pm I think people still want to yeet LP tomorrow if Dunya flips town. I don't think I want to yeet Scotty if she does.
I'll want LP. I'll also want you.
I said I'd take responsibility, didn't I?

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:50 pm
by Dolby
I see what I must do

[VOTE: Dunya] aubergine

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:50 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Actually I take that back NAA wagon is fine

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:51 pm
by Syn
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:49 pm
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:47 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:46 pm is dolby in scum range @Syn
I don't know how to read this era of Dolby tbh. I really only played with him when he loved himself less and was hyper analytical in mafia.
Image
que tu veux?

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm
by Dolby
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:49 pm
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:47 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:46 pm is dolby in scum range @Syn
I don't know how to read this era of Dolby tbh. I really only played with him when he loved himself less and was hyper analytical in mafia.
Image
bowl a strike smh

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm
by DrWilgy
NAA wagon is fine.

Question though, who's been consistently on the jump wagons? I think I've seen Scotty dancing about and that raises concern.

Scum trying really hard to save Dunya/LP if not both rn.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm
by Syn
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm NAA wagon is fine.

Question though, who's been consistently on the jump wagons? I think I've seen Scotty dancing about and that raises concern.

Scum trying really hard to save Dunya/LP if not both rn.
me

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
dyachei wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:50 pm becuse people often find excuses to continue wolf reading the people they wolf read, jack
You said I was lining up misyeets. How does that jive with the idea that I will find future excuses to push your townread? Are you accusing me of thought crime? :confused2:

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm
by Marmot
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:46 pm
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:44 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:42 pm I don't want to waste a chop on wigley

Why is a chop on Wilgy a waste?
I answer that in a few posts from then

Valid point.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm
by dunya
syn are you enjoying my presence in this game? @Syn

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:53 pm
by DrWilgy
Cactuarctually, I'll move back to [VOTE: Dunya] aubergine. She can't keep getting away with this.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:53 pm
by dunya
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm Scum trying really hard to save Dunya/LP if not both rn.
agreed.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:53 pm
by hollowkatt
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm NAA wagon is fine.

Question though, who's been consistently on the jump wagons? I think I've seen Scotty dancing about and that raises concern.

Scum trying really hard to save Dunya/LP if not both rn.
i've been consistently flipping between dunya and LP

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:54 pm
by Marmot
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm syn are you enjoying my presence in this game? @Syn
Never

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:54 pm
by DrWilgy
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm NAA wagon is fine.

Question though, who's been consistently on the jump wagons? I think I've seen Scotty dancing about and that raises concern.

Scum trying really hard to save Dunya/LP if not both rn.
me
Spoiler: show

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine
Spoiler: show
This isn't a real vote.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:54 pm
by Le petit poussin
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm syn are you enjoying my presence in this game? @Syn
we all do fam.

@Syn: keep posting in French pls, it makes reading easier for me.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:54 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:49 pm
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:47 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:46 pm is dolby in scum range @Syn
I don't know how to read this era of Dolby tbh. I really only played with him when he loved himself less and was hyper analytical in mafia.
Image
que tu veux?
Image


Remember that time we both saw how Dunya was a wolf and Scotty was their partner and Urist too? And then you insisted on voting for almost every player in the game besides Dunya, Scotty and Urist?

I have a great idea.

Let's yeet Dunya, Scotty and Urist.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:54 pm
by Syn
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm syn are you enjoying my presence in this game? @Syn
why

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:54 pm
by Dolby
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:54 pm
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 pm NAA wagon is fine.

Question though, who's been consistently on the jump wagons? I think I've seen Scotty dancing about and that raises concern.

Scum trying really hard to save Dunya/LP if not both rn.
me
Spoiler: show

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine
Spoiler: show
This isn't a real vote.
I can't believe Wilgy would real vote Syn, lock wolf

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:55 pm
by DrWilgy
Alright. I'm good where I'm at and gotta go now.

Gl.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:55 pm
by dunya
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:54 pm Remember that time we both saw how Dunya was a wolf and Scotty was their partner and Urist too? And then you insisted on voting for almost every player in the game besides Dunya, Scotty and Urist?
ive never been wolf with scotty and urist?

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:56 pm
by dunya
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:54 pm Remember that time we both saw how Dunya was a wolf and Scotty was their partner and Urist too? And then you insisted on voting for almost every player in the game besides Dunya, Scotty and Urist?
ive never been wolf with scotty and urist?
before you roll your eyes at me, this was a joke. :biggrin:

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:56 pm
by Syn
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:54 pm
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:49 pm
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:47 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:46 pm is dolby in scum range @Syn
I don't know how to read this era of Dolby tbh. I really only played with him when he loved himself less and was hyper analytical in mafia.
Image
que tu veux?
Image


Remember that time we both saw how Dunya was a wolf and Scotty was their partner and Urist too? And then you insisted on voting for almost every player in the game besides Dunya, Scotty and Urist?

I have a great idea.

Let's yeet Dunya, Scotty and Urist.
i voted for dunia and scotty tho

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:57 pm
by dunya
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:56 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:54 pm Remember that time we both saw how Dunya was a wolf and Scotty was their partner and Urist too? And then you insisted on voting for almost every player in the game besides Dunya, Scotty and Urist?
ive never been wolf with scotty and urist?
before you roll your eyes at me, this was a joke. :biggrin:
before you call this a scumslip...

oh no, go right ahead.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:57 pm
by Syn
[VOTE: dunia] aubergine

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:58 pm
by dunya
@Marmot did you finish reading NAA's iso? what was your opinion in few words?

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:58 pm
by Le petit poussin
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:57 pm[VOTE: dunia] aubergine
AtE?

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:58 pm
by Syn
[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:58 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:57 pm[VOTE: dunia] aubergine
ghostcathug.jpg

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:58 pm
by dunya
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:55 pm Alright. I'm good where I'm at and gotta go now.

Gl.
good bye! nice playing with you if i go over. see you on the other side.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:59 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
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Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:59 pm
by Syn
nobody I like is on the dunia wagon

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:00 pm
by Syn
nobody I like is on the tsp wagon

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:00 pm
by Syn
maybe I don't like anyone

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:00 pm
by Marmot
From reading NAA's ISO

He spent a good portion of Day 1 pushing Scotty because Scotty "has a towntell and is scum until he does his towntell". He also pushed Mac for things like well no reason in particular

This push on Scotty has stretched into Day 2, and with the number of times I've seen him talk about Scotty, I do think this effort is played up a little too much. NAA has made 219 posts, and 72 of them contain mentions of Scotty, or responses to Scotty. Yes I counted, that's almost a third of them.

Anyway, most of that happened Day 1. NAA pulled back his scumread because Scotty towntold (I guess?). That said, he has looked elsewhere and considered other options.

Probably the main thing that worries me right now is that he had like 200 posts in the first 1.5 days of this game (36 hours), and only 12 in the last 12 hours, which also coincides with his decision that Scotty was town.


I dunno, I find his content very hard to glean alignment from. Thanks Syn.

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:00 pm
by Syn
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:00 pm From reading NAA's ISO

He spent a good portion of Day 1 pushing Scotty because Scotty "has a towntell and is scum until he does his towntell". He also pushed Mac for things like well no reason in particular

This push on Scotty has stretched into Day 2, and with the number of times I've seen him talk about Scotty, I do think this effort is played up a little too much. NAA has made 219 posts, and 72 of them contain mentions of Scotty, or responses to Scotty. Yes I counted, that's almost a third of them.

Anyway, most of that happened Day 1. NAA pulled back his scumread because Scotty towntold (I guess?). That said, he has looked elsewhere and considered other options.

Probably the main thing that worries me right now is that he had like 200 posts in the first 1.5 days of this game (36 hours), and only 12 in the last 12 hours, which also coincides with his decision that Scotty was town.


I dunno, I find his content very hard to glean alignment from. Thanks Syn.
pain

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:00 pm
by Dolby
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:00 pm nobody I like is on the tsp wagon
how about the naa wagon

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:00 pm
by Syn
[VOTE: naa] aubergine

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:00 pm
by dunya
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:59 pm nobody I like is on the dunia wagon
oh shit [VOTE: dunya] aubergine

how about now, in theory?

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:01 pm
by hollowkatt
Syn wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:00 pm nobody I like is on the tsp wagon
Sir, you wound me