Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D4)
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:14 pm
My character is the guy whose name looks like a typo, for what it’s worth.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
I do get a "nerfed version" so if his is limited to finding and killing me, then it's understandable.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:13 pmI should stop asking questions.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:12 pm Day 1 I forgot to use my ability because I'm used to using abilities at night. Day 2 I targeted ts account, and I was able to target a player at night, and be told if they’re an assassin character or not. Day 3 I targeted Tony to verify the truth of his claim, and I got nothing from it.
I struggle with the claim that you “got nothing” from Tony’s role. Surely you’d still get something, even if he was bad. “Getting nothing” implies he’s vanilla.
SHOULD HAVE TARGETED LCLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:06 pm Ok, well then my "spirit vote" is on Tony. His role claim is a lie. I'm Desmond, and I'm Civ, and there's no way in hell he wouldn't have tried to kill me last night if he had the chance. I assume he tried to target someone else with his power (likely to kill Desmond if you can find him). He was trying to draw me out so he'd know who to target.
Sloonei, I'm town, and voting Tony is the way for us to win the game.
yes my role works the way y’all thought it did I got a clarificatory PM I’m slightly ashamed that I took a stance on my own role and then was completely wrong so you can throw that into the untrustworthy things about me binTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:13 pmSHOULD HAVE TARGETED LCLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:06 pm Ok, well then my "spirit vote" is on Tony. His role claim is a lie. I'm Desmond, and I'm Civ, and there's no way in hell he wouldn't have tried to kill me last night if he had the chance. I assume he tried to target someone else with his power (likely to kill Desmond if you can find him). He was trying to draw me out so he'd know who to target.
Sloonei, I'm town, and voting Tony is the way for us to win the game.
Could you explain your role in as much details as possible?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:17 pmyes my role works the way y’all thought it did I got a clarificatory PM I’m slightly ashamed that I took a stance on my own role and then was completely wrong so you can throw that into the untrustworthy things about me binTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:13 pmSHOULD HAVE TARGETED LCLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:06 pm Ok, well then my "spirit vote" is on Tony. His role claim is a lie. I'm Desmond, and I'm Civ, and there's no way in hell he wouldn't have tried to kill me last night if he had the chance. I assume he tried to target someone else with his power (likely to kill Desmond if you can find him). He was trying to draw me out so he'd know who to target.
Sloonei, I'm town, and voting Tony is the way for us to win the game.
The way LC said: I target someone, and if they’re Desmond, I kill them. Last night I targeted Speed — I knew Desmond had to be on the scum team because of how Speed reacted to my power, and Speed was the safest guess for being for sure on the scum team. I didn’t target LC because even though he had the highest chance of being Desmond I also thought he might be town.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:18 pmCould you explain your role in as much details as possible?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:17 pmyes my role works the way y’all thought it did I got a clarificatory PM I’m slightly ashamed that I took a stance on my own role and then was completely wrong so you can throw that into the untrustworthy things about me binTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:13 pmSHOULD HAVE TARGETED LCLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:06 pm Ok, well then my "spirit vote" is on Tony. His role claim is a lie. I'm Desmond, and I'm Civ, and there's no way in hell he wouldn't have tried to kill me last night if he had the chance. I assume he tried to target someone else with his power (likely to kill Desmond if you can find him). He was trying to draw me out so he'd know who to target.
Sloonei, I'm town, and voting Tony is the way for us to win the game.
What happens to your target if they're not Desmond? Why did LC have a higher chance to be him?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:24 pmThe way LC said: I target someone, and if they’re Desmond, I kill them. Last night I targeted Speed — I knew Desmond had to be on the scum team because of how Speed reacted to my power, and Speed was the safest guess for being for sure on the scum team. I didn’t target LC because even though he had the highest chance of being Desmond I also thought he might be town.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:18 pmCould you explain your role in as much details as possible?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:17 pmyes my role works the way y’all thought it did I got a clarificatory PM I’m slightly ashamed that I took a stance on my own role and then was completely wrong so you can throw that into the untrustworthy things about me binTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:13 pmSHOULD HAVE TARGETED LCLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:06 pm Ok, well then my "spirit vote" is on Tony. His role claim is a lie. I'm Desmond, and I'm Civ, and there's no way in hell he wouldn't have tried to kill me last night if he had the chance. I assume he tried to target someone else with his power (likely to kill Desmond if you can find him). He was trying to draw me out so he'd know who to target.
Sloonei, I'm town, and voting Tony is the way for us to win the game.
Im also ascetic, which seems to be a common theme in this game. I said that yesterday. If LC targeted me, his action would have failed.
LC hadn’t claimed yet, had the second highest chance of being scum, and was averse to the whole plan in a way generally not expressed by others. You can see a noticeable change in reaction after I revealed the character, though he only mentioned the power once before.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:25 pmWhat happens to your target if they're not Desmond? Why did LC have a higher chance to be him?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:24 pmThe way LC said: I target someone, and if they’re Desmond, I kill them. Last night I targeted Speed — I knew Desmond had to be on the scum team because of how Speed reacted to my power, and Speed was the safest guess for being for sure on the scum team. I didn’t target LC because even though he had the highest chance of being Desmond I also thought he might be town.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:18 pmCould you explain your role in as much details as possible?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:17 pmyes my role works the way y’all thought it did I got a clarificatory PM I’m slightly ashamed that I took a stance on my own role and then was completely wrong so you can throw that into the untrustworthy things about me binTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:13 pmSHOULD HAVE TARGETED LCLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:06 pm Ok, well then my "spirit vote" is on Tony. His role claim is a lie. I'm Desmond, and I'm Civ, and there's no way in hell he wouldn't have tried to kill me last night if he had the chance. I assume he tried to target someone else with his power (likely to kill Desmond if you can find him). He was trying to draw me out so he'd know who to target.
Sloonei, I'm town, and voting Tony is the way for us to win the game.
Im also ascetic, which seems to be a common theme in this game. I said that yesterday. If LC targeted me, his action would have failed.
Do you believe LC's role claim?
It was implied that the mafia team knew of the existence of the apple and would be searching for it, for what it's worth. I needed to pass it along to somebody else to keep it hidden. I picked funnygurl because she was a town read for me but not many others at the time. I started sweating when I thought I had caught her in a lie about her role yesterday.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:40 pm If the scum team knew the Gods were descending Sloonei would have been forced perhaps to snipe the obvious lynch target for the next day? But no one else would have known about the power and my general impression is that the descending Gods were not expected by scum.
Did the Gods know who you passed the Apple to?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:43 pmIt was implied that the mafia team knew of the existence of the apple and would be searching for it, for what it's worth. I needed to pass it along to somebody else to keep it hidden. I picked funnygurl because she was a town read for me but not many others at the time. I started sweating when I thought I had caught her in a lie about her role yesterday.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:40 pm If the scum team knew the Gods were descending Sloonei would have been forced perhaps to snipe the obvious lynch target for the next day? But no one else would have known about the power and my general impression is that the descending Gods were not expected by scum.
I have no idea. I'd assume they did not, but I have no way of knowing. Why?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:45 pmDid the Gods know who you passed the Apple to?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:43 pmIt was implied that the mafia team knew of the existence of the apple and would be searching for it, for what it's worth. I needed to pass it along to somebody else to keep it hidden. I picked funnygurl because she was a town read for me but not many others at the time. I started sweating when I thought I had caught her in a lie about her role yesterday.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:40 pm If the scum team knew the Gods were descending Sloonei would have been forced perhaps to snipe the obvious lynch target for the next day? But no one else would have known about the power and my general impression is that the descending Gods were not expected by scum.
LOL ok, so now it's revealed that you lied and were trying to get me to reveal my role so you could kill me. Figured as much.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:13 pmSHOULD HAVE TARGETED LCLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:06 pm Ok, well then my "spirit vote" is on Tony. His role claim is a lie. I'm Desmond, and I'm Civ, and there's no way in hell he wouldn't have tried to kill me last night if he had the chance. I assume he tried to target someone else with his power (likely to kill Desmond if you can find him). He was trying to draw me out so he'd know who to target.
Sloonei, I'm town, and voting Tony is the way for us to win the game.
What lie did he tell?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:48 pmLOL ok, so now it's revealed that you lied and were trying to get me to reveal my role so you could kill me. Figured as much.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:13 pmSHOULD HAVE TARGETED LCLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:06 pm Ok, well then my "spirit vote" is on Tony. His role claim is a lie. I'm Desmond, and I'm Civ, and there's no way in hell he wouldn't have tried to kill me last night if he had the chance. I assume he tried to target someone else with his power (likely to kill Desmond if you can find him). He was trying to draw me out so he'd know who to target.
Sloonei, I'm town, and voting Tony is the way for us to win the game.
trying to figure out if you could be lying. For what it’s worth, if you had answered the question straight either option was more suspicious.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:48 pmI have no idea. I'd assume they did not, but I have no way of knowing. Why?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:45 pmDid the Gods know who you passed the Apple to?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:43 pmIt was implied that the mafia team knew of the existence of the apple and would be searching for it, for what it's worth. I needed to pass it along to somebody else to keep it hidden. I picked funnygurl because she was a town read for me but not many others at the time. I started sweating when I thought I had caught her in a lie about her role yesterday.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:40 pm If the scum team knew the Gods were descending Sloonei would have been forced perhaps to snipe the obvious lynch target for the next day? But no one else would have known about the power and my general impression is that the descending Gods were not expected by scum.
Oh, of course, you expect scum to be honest about that kind of thing. It's a pretty big stretch to believe that you believe that. Here's a simpler explanation: you are scum.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:35 pmWell that gets to the honesty question — I hesitate about his claim because of that.
Nothing.
He lied about how his role worked to get me to reveal my character and give the scum a free kill.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:49 pmWhat lie did he tell?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:48 pmLOL ok, so now it's revealed that you lied and were trying to get me to reveal my role so you could kill me. Figured as much.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:13 pmSHOULD HAVE TARGETED LCLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:06 pm Ok, well then my "spirit vote" is on Tony. His role claim is a lie. I'm Desmond, and I'm Civ, and there's no way in hell he wouldn't have tried to kill me last night if he had the chance. I assume he tried to target someone else with his power (likely to kill Desmond if you can find him). He was trying to draw me out so he'd know who to target.
Sloonei, I'm town, and voting Tony is the way for us to win the game.
Clarificatory PMLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:52 pmHe lied about how his role worked to get me to reveal my character and give the scum a free kill.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:49 pmWhat lie did he tell?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:48 pmLOL ok, so now it's revealed that you lied and were trying to get me to reveal my role so you could kill me. Figured as much.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:13 pmSHOULD HAVE TARGETED LCLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:06 pm Ok, well then my "spirit vote" is on Tony. His role claim is a lie. I'm Desmond, and I'm Civ, and there's no way in hell he wouldn't have tried to kill me last night if he had the chance. I assume he tried to target someone else with his power (likely to kill Desmond if you can find him). He was trying to draw me out so he'd know who to target.
Sloonei, I'm town, and voting Tony is the way for us to win the game.
It's a clever plan whether you are town or scum. Disappointed you say that.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:55 pmClarificatory PMLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:52 pmHe lied about how his role worked to get me to reveal my character and give the scum a free kill.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:49 pmWhat lie did he tell?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:48 pmLOL ok, so now it's revealed that you lied and were trying to get me to reveal my role so you could kill me. Figured as much.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:13 pmSHOULD HAVE TARGETED LCLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:06 pm Ok, well then my "spirit vote" is on Tony. His role claim is a lie. I'm Desmond, and I'm Civ, and there's no way in hell he wouldn't have tried to kill me last night if he had the chance. I assume he tried to target someone else with his power (likely to kill Desmond if you can find him). He was trying to draw me out so he'd know who to target.
Sloonei, I'm town, and voting Tony is the way for us to win the game.
How so @sloonei
I’m saying that if you have the role that you claim to have but you are mafia then Long Con would have died in the night. Is that not the case?
No, he didn't target me. Are you still believing the lie?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:02 pmI’m saying that if you have the role that you claim to have but you are mafia then Long Con would have died in the night. Is that not the case?
Yup.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:08 pmNo, he didn't target me. Are you still believing the lie?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:02 pmI’m saying that if you have the role that you claim to have but you are mafia then Long Con would have died in the night. Is that not the case?
I think you are misunderstanding me.
If I’m scum then it’s maybe not the case that I think LC is the most likely Desmond since LC being likely Desmond is partially because he’s likely scum. I could have targeted you instead, failed, and then lied about my choices today.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:02 pmI’m saying that if you have the role that you claim to have but you are mafia then Long Con would have died in the night. Is that not the case?
ShhhTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:18 pmIf I’m scum then it’s maybe not the case that I think LC is the most likely Desmond since LC being likely Desmond is partially because he’s likely scum. I could have targeted you instead, failed, and then lied about my choices today.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:02 pmI’m saying that if you have the role that you claim to have but you are mafia then Long Con would have died in the night. Is that not the case?
There were a lot more people around to target last night than there are right now.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:18 pmI think you are misunderstanding me.
If Tony is bad and his role is that he can and must kill Desmond, then there’s a good chance he can figure out that it’s you by the time last night roles around. That being the case he would have shot you without hesitation. If that happens there are four deaths and I am the only civilian left alive, so the game is over.
So if you believe that Tony’s role is in fact designed specifically to kill you, and that he is mafia, then you should be dead. The game would be over.