Fleabag Mafia mafia win

[NotAnAxehole]

Are you willing to bank the game on me and Johanna being partners?

I'm willing to play for a draw.

[ilario]

Are you willing to bank the game on me and Johanna being partners?

I'm willing to play for a draw.

Lmao u can’t even answer a simple question lol

You called me and Johanna mafia

And now you’re walking back on what you said

I don’t care if you pretend like you’re playing for a draw, we both know that’s a lie

Answer my question

Am I and Johanna the scum team you’re locking in? Yes or no?

[NotAnAxehole]

Are you willing to bank the game on me and Johanna being partners?

I'm willing to play for a draw.

Lmao u can’t even answer a simple question lol

You called me and Johanna mafia

And now you’re walking back on what you said

I don’t care if you pretend like you’re playing for a draw, we both know that’s a lie

Answer my question

Am I and Johanna the scum team you’re locking in? Yes or no?

If I answer this question, you'll move on to the next thing, and that would be no fun at all.

[NotAnAxehole]

I think Johanna is town though.

[ilario]

I think Johanna is town though.

Lol

[NotAnAxehole]

I think Johanna is town though.

Lol

Cross-vote me bb let's go

[ilario]

She’s been in ur poe for days straight

She’s present and not saying anything

And you were voting her a few hours ago

[NotAnAxehole]

She’s been in ur poe for days straight

She’s present and not saying anything

And you were voting her a few hours ago

I was also voting myself today

[ilario]

Well okay let’s say Johanna is town, then whose my partner?

You had falcon as town for unexplained reasons since d1, I assume that hasn’t changed. Are you saying dizzy is the second mafia now?

[ilario]

She’s been in ur poe for days straight

She’s present and not saying anything

And you were voting her a few hours ago

I was also voting myself today

Shoulda done that d1 lol

[NotAnAxehole]

Well okay let’s say Johanna is town, then whose my partner?

You had falcon as town for unexplained reasons since d1, I assume that hasn’t changed. Are you saying dizzy is the second mafia now?

We'll get to that after your flip

[ilario]

Well okay let’s say Johanna is town, then whose my partner?

You had falcon as town for unexplained reasons since d1, I assume that hasn’t changed. Are you saying dizzy is the second mafia now?

We'll get to that after your flip

Lmao

Nah, you and I both know the game ends once I die. That’s why you’re banking all your eggs in trying to get me out here. And that’s why you’re scared to name a second name to fos. You don’t want to name a town as my partner and lose a potential vote on me and you don’t want to name your own partner because you realize that I’ll just flip the narrative onto them and you’ll be exposed once you’re too afraid to vote them

[Johanna]

Actually, I don't mind sleeping to give more time, since I don't have a lot of time. But I think losing Marmot will give us even less of a chance to come together.

I'm with you I don't think sleep does anything for us, which makes me doubt whether it's not NAA and Falcon , both of whom are in fact advocating sleep. I'm wary of coincidences so late into the game.

My kills right now are ilario and Johanna

This PoE loses the game.

@Johanna

I see that you’re online

I want your thoughts on everything

Hi.

I think Johanna is town though.

raises eyebrow into the sky

Spoiler: show

see quote below

She’s been in ur poe for days straight

She’s present and not saying anything

And you were voting her a few hours ago

Catching up lah.

[ilario]

U from singapore?

[Johanna]

I'm very confused.

NAA what are you doing.

[Johanna]

I'm not from Singapore, but I like the sound of it, so I use it online sometimes.

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm very confused.

NAA what are you doing.

Yes.

[NotAnAxehole]

@Johanna I'm trying to get Ilario to use you as a crutch as a reason to justify my PoE being wrong.

[NotAnAxehole]

I think it worked.

[ilario]

I was starting to come to a realization yesterday that a significant portion of why I trd NAA came from his demeanor and the general notion that scum generally don’t approach the way he has. You rarely see scums just outright behave the way he did. But then when I think about it deeper, what town ever approaches the game the way he has either? He has started unprovoked attacks on most of the lobby, and I think what we initially considered something to be alignment indicate from him could simply just personality indicative. He said himself that he’s a di ck, and that’s probably the only thing he’s said all game that I believe. So if he’s a di ck in general, why would he not behave the way he has this game as mafia?

If you track NAAs progression in his iso, the most startling thing is, there is no progression. It’s full of contradictory statements. One moment he will have sloonei or jjj as a scumread, the next post he’s solving the game with them. One moment he’s saying voting someone who isn’t there makes him feel bad, the next he’s pushing for their death before they can even come back. He’s had a very confident tr on falcon that has been unexplained the entire game and looks very pockety and wreaks of TMI because nobody in the lobby had falcon as town d1. Naa even tried to claim credit for defending sig and LC, which he really didn’t even do, his only defense of LC was when He tried to Cw JJJ and get him voted off at one point near the end of d2. I challenge anyone this entire game to find me one single thing from his iso that shows a genuine game solving process that shows proper critical evaluation or a legitimate action that was done that was entirely townsided from him. If anyone can do that I will selfvote
And elim myself. But I am confident nobody can.

[ilario]

@Johanna I'm trying to get Ilario to use you as a crutch as a reason to justify my PoE being wrong.

No I think you included one mafia in your poe and that mafia is Johanna and that’s why ur afraid to admit it

[NotAnAxehole]

I was starting to come to a realization yesterday that a significant portion of why I trd NAA came from his demeanor and the general notion that scum generally don’t approach the way he has. You rarely see scums just outright behave the way he did. But then when I think about it deeper, what town ever approaches the game the way he has either? He has started unprovoked attacks on most of the lobby, and I think what we initially considered something to be alignment indicate from him could simply just personality indicative. He said himself that he’s a di ck, and that’s probably the only thing he’s said all game that I believe. So if he’s a di ck in general, why would he not behave the way he has this game as mafia?

If you track NAAs progression in his iso, the most startling thing is, there is no progression. It’s full of contradictory statements. One moment he will have sloonei or jjj as a scumread, the next post he’s solving the game with them. One moment he’s saying voting someone who isn’t there makes him feel bad, the next he’s pushing for their death before they can even come back. He’s had a very confident tr on falcon that has been unexplained the entire game and looks very pockety and wreaks of TMI because nobody in the lobby had falcon as town d1. Naa even tried to claim credit for defending sig and LC, which he really didn’t even do, his only defense of LC was when He tried to Cw JJJ and get him voted off at one point near the end of d2. I challenge anyone this entire game to find me one single thing from his iso that shows a genuine game solving process that shows proper critical evaluation or a legitimate action that was done that was entirely townsided from him. If anyone can do that I will selfvote
And elim myself. But I am confident nobody can.

I game solved by finding Dolby and SoA town...

Oh wait, that was you.

[NotAnAxehole]

I misread the player I'm most familiar with in the game...

Also you?

[NotAnAxehole]

Shucks

[ilario]

Also I remember dizzy said somewhere that he played a town game with NAA and NAA was completely wrong on everything lmao, so the fact that he’s had accurate reads at the start of the game is probably TMI because someone his caliber wouldn’t have those reads. And that’s why he’s struggled to each every read he’s given all game. He knows the reads are right, but he doesn’t know how to fake the reason as to why those reads are right

[ilario]

I never townread
Dolby

I had him as scum

I townrrad soa, but so did spf, lc, jjj, dizzy and many other townies

I did correctly tr marmot when sloonei was pushing for him and I correctly cased marmot with actual reasoning

[ilario]

I misread the player I'm most familiar with in the game...

Also you?

I’m not that familiar with lc, I’m familiar with spf and I correctly read her too

Even when dizzy was paranoid about her I told him she’s probably town

[NotAnAxehole]

Also I remember dizzy said somewhere that he played a town game with NAA and NAA was completely wrong on everything lmao, so the fact that he’s had accurate reads at the start of the game is probably TMI because someone his caliber wouldn’t have those reads. And that’s why he’s struggled to each every read he’s given all game. He knows the reads are right, but he doesn’t know how to fake the reason as to why those reads are right

JJJ also quoted a town game where I was completely right on everything.

[ilario]

Also I remember dizzy said somewhere that he played a town game with NAA and NAA was completely wrong on everything lmao, so the fact that he’s had accurate reads at the start of the game is probably TMI because someone his caliber wouldn’t have those reads. And that’s why he’s struggled to explain every read he’s given all game. He knows the reads are right, but he doesn’t know how to fake the reason as to why those reads are right

Ebwop

Fixed a typo

The sentence is supposed to say

And that’s why he’s struggled to explain every read he’s given all game. Unlike the original where it said “each” instead of “explain”

[ilario]

Also I remember dizzy said somewhere that he played a town game with NAA and NAA was completely wrong on everything lmao, so the fact that he’s had accurate reads at the start of the game is probably TMI because someone his caliber wouldn’t have those reads. And that’s why he’s struggled to each every read he’s given all game. He knows the reads are right, but he doesn’t know how to fake the reason as to why those reads are right

JJJ also quoted a town game where I was completely right on everything.

So then why are u struggling so much to name my partner?

U said falcon is town I agree with you

So whose the other, dizzy or Johanna? It’s 50/50 for you, where’s all your confidence gone?

[ilario]

Seems like ur all talk and no bark

[NotAnAxehole]

[ilario]

And the more Johanna sits and watches without having any input the worse she looks fmpov

For anyone who reads this later, Johanna has been here since me and NAA started speaking

[NotAnAxehole]

And the more Johanna sits and watches without having any input the worse she looks fmpov

For anyone who reads this later, Johanna has been here since me and NAA started speaking

She's my partner, she doesn't know how to handle this situation because she's afraid I'm going to get myself killed ftl.

[NotAnAxehole]

And the more Johanna sits and watches without having any input the worse she looks fmpov

For anyone who reads this later, Johanna has been here since me and NAA started speaking

She's my partner, she doesn't know how to handle this situation because she's afraid I'm going to get myself killed ftl.

But I guess her understanding of this makes it unlikely for me to die to begin with.

[NotAnAxehole]

@ilario drop a vote

[ilario]

@ilario drop a vote

U seem eager for this dome, what happened to wanting to vote sleep so much ?

[NotAnAxehole]

@ilario drop a vote

U seem eager for this dome, what happened to wanting to vote sleep so much ?

We've regressed from baseless accusations to leading questions.

[NotAnAxehole]

Also, I'm bored, it's a Friday morning at work, and you're all too much fun.

[ilario]

Actually, I started off with the questioning which led to the accusations. Because that’s how people actually scumhunt.

[Johanna]

So I did an exercise that should be of very limited usefulness.

I pulled up JJJ's alignment chart, I highlighted the chopped wolves and removed the flipped/poisoned townies, and it's interesting!

Like at this point it yields no compatible teams, because SoA would be compatible to Dizzy and NAA, but NAA is also the only person that JJJ thought Dolby could not be partnered with.

I did that and it's useless, but it's kind of a summary of where we were and I'm trying to look at where we are compared to it.

[ilario]

@Johanna

What’s ur read on NAA

[Johanna]

But like I hate this exchange of yours. I started reading about 40 minutes ago indeed.

I think "she's here and not posting so she has to be a wolf" is called angleshooting and goes against the rules, so please don't.

[NotAnAxehole]

So I did an exercise that should be of very limited usefulness.

I pulled up JJJ's alignment chart, I highlighted the chopped wolves and removed the flipped/poisoned townies, and it's interesting!

Like at this point it yields no compatible teams, because SoA would be compatible to Dizzy and NAA, but NAA is also the only person that JJJ thought Dolby could not be partnered with.

I did that and it's useless, but it's kind of a summary of where we were and I'm trying to look at where we are compared to it.

That's where I'm at to. JJJ and I were probably looking at similar things to dissociate, but my dissociation reads don't fully work either.

[Johanna]

Mostly that I have to choose between you two and I have no idea who. NAA is all over the place.

[NotAnAxehole]

But like I hate this exchange of yours. I started reading about 40 minutes ago indeed.

I think "she's here and not posting so she has to be a wolf" is called angleshooting and goes against the rules, so please don't.

I'll angleshoot that the other way if you'd like.

[ilario]

So I did an exercise that should be of very limited usefulness.

I pulled up JJJ's alignment chart, I highlighted the chopped wolves and removed the flipped/poisoned townies, and it's interesting!

Like at this point it yields no compatible teams, because SoA would be compatible to Dizzy and NAA, but NAA is also the only person that JJJ thought Dolby could not be partnered with.

I did that and it's useless, but it's kind of a summary of where we were and I'm trying to look at where we are compared to it.

I appreciate jjjs work I really do, and it’s a great way to scumhunt. But the crux of using an interactions chart solely to solve the game is that all it requires is one wolf whose good at spew to throw off the accuracy of the entire data. What are your own individual thoughts? I don’t need to see people bring up dead townies reads again, I’m trying to read YOU not them.

[ilario]

Mostly that I have to choose between you two and I have no idea who. NAA is all over the place.

Why do you have to choose between us two? I’m much more likely to vote you than I am to vote NAA right now

[NotAnAxehole]

So I did an exercise that should be of very limited usefulness.

I pulled up JJJ's alignment chart, I highlighted the chopped wolves and removed the flipped/poisoned townies, and it's interesting!

Like at this point it yields no compatible teams, because SoA would be compatible to Dizzy and NAA, but NAA is also the only person that JJJ thought Dolby could not be partnered with.

I did that and it's useless, but it's kind of a summary of where we were and I'm trying to look at where we are compared to it.

I appreciate jjjs work I really do, and it’s a great way to scumhunt. But the crux of using an interactions chart solely to solve the game is that all it requires is one wolf whose good at spew to throw off the accuracy of the entire data. What are your own individual thoughts? I don’t need to see people bring up dead townies reads again, I’m trying to read YOU not them.

This is incorrect. But it does somewhat rely on the user being right.

[NotAnAxehole]

Mostly that I have to choose between you two and I have no idea who. NAA is all over the place.

Why do you have to choose between us two? I’m much more likely to vote you than I am to vote NAA right now