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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:41 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Wilgy claiming like obviously wolf-sided actions in thread is interesting especially since a wolf probably doesn't /actually/ redirect a sniper who's targeted onto town but also gav was very clearly wolf siding and so i guess it's the worst possible kill for wolves anyways

arbitrarily we can rule out wilgy/marmot i suppose

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:59 am
by LinearPoint
Well I mean he was roleblocked and tried to redirect the sniper shot.
I will point out thought Mafia has no problems redirecting a Vig since Mafia Pyro cannot redirect the kill to Mafia.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:13 am
by Lime Coke
[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:13 am
by Lime Coke
Tonight, we dine in hell.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:14 am
by Lime Coke
And tomorrow....

I'm thinking Arby's.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:23 am
by TonyStarkPrime
LinearPoint wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:59 am Well I mean he was roleblocked and tried to redirect the sniper shot.
I will point out thought Mafia has no problems redirecting a Vig since Mafia Pyro cannot redirect the kill to Mafia.
missed this. i mean. yeah.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:08 am
by MacDougall
Dolby wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:42 pm Wilgy can I ask two questions

I'm assuming you think that TSP is deepwolf, that's fine

what's the realistic solve iye?
I don't consider tsp a deepwolf... I consider chopping the entire seanzie wagon to be optimal...

myself not included of course

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:16 am
by NotAnAxehole
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:08 am
Dolby wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:42 pm Wilgy can I ask two questions

I'm assuming you think that TSP is deepwolf, that's fine

what's the realistic solve iye?
I don't consider tsp a deepwolf... I consider chopping the entire seanzie wagon to be optimal...

myself not included of course
Myself not included of course.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:37 pm
by falcon45ca
OK, I'm back.



Miss me?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:40 pm
by Marmot
Lime Coke wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:14 am And tomorrow....

I'm thinking Arby's.

I prefer the former option tbh.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:43 pm
by Marmot
This day phase has kinda petered out, but that's probably related to auto-chopping DrWilgy, a rather null slot.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:44 pm
by Marmot
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:37 pm OK, I'm back.



Miss me?

You know it! :beer:

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:57 pm
by Lime Coke
Marmot wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:40 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:14 am And tomorrow....

I'm thinking Arby's.

I prefer the former option tbh.
It does have unanimous 5 star ratings on yelp so your take is valid.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:00 pm
by Marmot
Is this dadv? That's a term I've seen before, and I wonder if this is what it feels like.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:03 pm
by falcon45ca
Have we all mass claimed?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:55 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Yeah, here are the claims as far as I remember:

Flacon: red medic
Sig: Blue Medic

MacDougall: red heavy
Guillotine: Blue heavy

Marmot: red watcher

Lime Coke: red roleblocked
Dolby: blue roleblock

Martin: red engineer
LP: Blue Engineer

TSP: red sniper

Wigly: red Pyro

Are any of these wrong?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:55 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Naa: Blue Spy

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:01 pm
by Lime Coke
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:55 pm Yeah, here are the claims as far as I remember:

Flacon: red medic
Sig: Blue Medic

MacDougall: red heavy
Guillotine: Blue heavy

Marmot: red watcher

Lime Coke: red roleblocked
Dolby: blue roleblock

Martin: red engineer
LP: Blue Engineer

TSP: red sniper

Wigly: red Pyro

Are any of these wrong?
Sabie was blue engineer but I don't know what LP has claimed yet.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:03 pm
by Lime Coke
LP would have to be the other pyro I guess.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:09 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Oh yeah, that was the missing bit of info, yes LP is definitely blue Pyro then.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:31 pm
by falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:55 pm Yeah, here are the claims as far as I remember:

Flacon: red medic
Sig: Blue Medic

MacDougall: red heavy
Guillotine: Blue heavy

Marmot: red watcher

Lime Coke: red roleblocked
Dolby: blue roleblock

Martin: red engineer
LP: Blue Engineer

TSP: red sniper

Wigly: red Pyro

Are any of these wrong?
I don't recall saying what my color was. I'm assuming Sig claimed his color?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:33 pm
by falcon45ca
I just went thru sig's ISO, and he only says the color blue once.



Not in relation to his role either BTW

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:33 pm
by falcon45ca
[VOTE: NAA] aubergine

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:23 pm
by NotAnAxehole
@falcon45ca your vote makes no sense unless your goal is to spew yourself town.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:25 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Did Sig claim his saves?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:32 pm
by falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:23 pm @falcon45ca your vote makes no sense unless your goal is to spew yourself town.
I'm not seeing an answer here to how you're aware of my color.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:32 pm
by NotAnAxehole
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:32 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:23 pm @falcon45ca your vote makes no sense unless your goal is to spew yourself town.
I'm not seeing an answer here to how you're aware of my color.
Lucky guess. How do you think I know your color?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:35 pm
by NotAnAxehole
@falcon45ca if you said you were blue I would have believed you and updated my list 😉

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:41 pm
by falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:32 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:23 pm @falcon45ca your vote makes no sense unless your goal is to spew yourself town.
I'm not seeing an answer here to how you're aware of my color.
Lucky guess. How do you think I know your color?
I don't know, but you're being awful cagey right now

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:48 pm
by falcon45ca
Sig & NAA are Maf partners is one option. NAA is Maf, and my save on Marmot N1 gave him my role & color.



Or he guessed.



If I'm town making a list of claims, I wouldn't guess at the colors.



I'd like to hear what others think

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:49 pm
by NotAnAxehole
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:48 pm Sig & NAA are Maf partners is one option. NAA is Maf, and my save on Marmot N1 gave him my role & color.



Or he guessed.



If I'm town making a list of claims, I wouldn't guess at the colors.



I'd like to hear what others think
Does your role give up your color upon save?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:50 pm
by falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:48 pm Sig & NAA are Maf partners is one option. NAA is Maf, and my save on Marmot N1 gave him my role & color.



Or he guessed.



If I'm town making a list of claims, I wouldn't guess at the colors.



I'd like to hear what others think
Does your role give up your color upon save?
It's not specific if that happens

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:51 pm
by NotAnAxehole
If I'm town, is that a slip?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:53 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Idk, it seems like you're doing an awful lot of "what would I do if"

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:58 pm
by falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:53 pm Idk, it seems like you're doing an awful lot of "what would I do if"
If you're not able to see why I think you being aware of my color as being sus, then I find that extremely scummy as well

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:03 pm
by NotAnAxehole
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:58 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:53 pm Idk, it seems like you're doing an awful lot of "what would I do if"
If you're not able to see why I think you being aware of my color as being sus, then I find that extremely scummy as well
Lol

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:25 pm
by falcon45ca
I have been told that my color would have been revealed to the Maf if I prevented a kill.



I'd like other players to weigh in on this

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:12 pm
by NotAnAxehole
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:25 pm I have been told that my color would have been revealed to the Maf if I prevented a kill.



I'd like other players to weigh in on this
Damn, that's a cool story.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:12 pm
by NotAnAxehole
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:25 pm I have been told that my color would have been revealed to the Maf if I prevented a kill.



I'd like other players to weigh in on this
Damn, that's a cool story.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:14 pm
by falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:12 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:25 pm I have been told that my color would have been revealed to the Maf if I prevented a kill.



I'd like other players to weigh in on this
Damn, that's a cool story.
Thanks.



You can find it in the non-fiction section of your local library

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:43 pm
by Guillotine
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:34 am SETUP:

(Special thanks to Soneji for reviewing the setup and suggesting some improvements for roles)


There are 9 roles, based on the classes from the game. Each role has two copies, a Red and a Blue copy. The two copies are identical and have the same abilities.

4 of those copies are part of the mafia faction, the other 14 are town.

Town faction wins the game when they eliminate all 4 mafia.

Mafia has a team chat and can kill once per night. They win the game when they are at least 50% of the living players.

Each role has 3 abilities. They may use one of those abilities each day/night cycle. Some abilities are to be used at night, some in the day. The mafia night kill is not included in that one ability/cycle limit.

The 9 roles are as follows:

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Medic

While this doctor does not have a lot of adherence to medical ethics, he nonetheless serves as the healer of the team.

- Medi Gun: Once per night, the Medic may use this to keep another player healed, protecting them from one kill. However, the Medic is a key enemy target. Every time he prevents a kill, the attacker will learn he was the one who did it. The Medic may not protect another Medic.

Each time the Medi Gun is used, the Medic will fill 1/3 of his Übercharge meter. After the meter is filled, he may activate the Übercharge while healing someone, which will make both him and his patient immune to every kill (even criticals) for a night and will not give any information to attackers.

- Vaccinator: Same as the Medi Gun, but this weapon will charge 2/3 of the ÜberCharge meter. However, the healing done by it is weaker, so if the patient is also hit with a second negative ability that night, the protection will fail.

- Solemn Vow: Instead of healing, the Medic may choose to hit someone with a bust of Hypocrates, roleblocking them. The bust will then break and will reappear after a cooldown of one night.

“Zat was a doctor-assisted homicide!” – the Medic.
[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

The fish always dies by its mouth.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:46 pm
by Guillotine
If three scum were on Seanzie to save Sabie, approach me for wolfing coaching after game. My rates are flexible and I guarantee to make you a better wolf for next game lol.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:48 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Got booster can’t think kill wilgy

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:51 pm
by Guillotine
@falcon45ca have you used Medi Gun? if so, what night?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:04 pm
by LinearPoint
I dunno about Mafia!NAA honestly.
He wouldn't just forget that his partner was a Blue Engineer and think I'm the Blue Engi.
That also just seems way to obvious if it was forced fake slip.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:06 pm
by LinearPoint
Actually, Wiggly never said his color.
He would have no reason to assume Wiggly was Red Pyro if he legitimately thought I claimed Blue Engineer.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:10 pm
by LinearPoint
Well OK, I can see one reason if he's Town and it's actually quite likely, so I don't really think him knowing colors is all that sus.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:15 pm
by falcon45ca
Guillotine wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:51 pm @falcon45ca have you used Medi Gun? if so, what night?
I've used it, yes. N2

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:17 pm
by LinearPoint
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:15 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:51 pm @falcon45ca have you used Medi Gun? if so, what night?
I've used it, yes. N2
So you've roleblock N1 and N3?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:17 pm
by falcon45ca
LinearPoint wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:04 pm I dunno about Mafia!NAA honestly.
He wouldn't just forget that his partner was a Blue Engineer and think I'm the Blue Engi.
That also just seems way to obvious if it was forced fake slip.
Funny, you think it's way to obvious, but if it was a fake slip it's working, isn't it?