Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:36 pm
[VOTE:
] aubergine
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Vote Sprityosprityo wrote:Perhaps if you didnt enjoy switching votes so often i wouldnt have to edit my votals : ^)Dyslexicon wrote:^I vote Long Con.
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Catching up bit by bit.Soneji wrote:I come from a place where the even/odd night thing with power roles is pretty rare. If there were two doctors, one even night and one odd night, the balance/intrigue there would be that you have two chances to get someone good at picking doctor targets and the mafia hitting one of them doesn't take away your doctor protects entirely.juliets wrote:Two doctor roles that operate on odd nights.Quin wrote:What do you mean by redundancy?juliets wrote:Soneji, Quin, and Golden:
Do you think it's likely that there is redundancy in the doctor role in the civ alignment? [Soneji you may not have gotten to the point yet that you understand why I'm asking this]
Can't say how likely it is given this game is in a weird place between The Syndicate and Narutoforums in terms of power.
Watching every night.Golden wrote:@speed - what bothers you mechanically about my claim?
This is actually a good point. However, I don't know if Golden has claimed anything about how much/when being able to watch?speedchuck wrote:Watching every night.Golden wrote:@speed - what bothers you mechanically about my claim?
Pretty much every other town role has been limited in some way. For you to claim just watcher (which came up before the trend of limited power was fully apparent) gives me balance issues that I discussed earlier with JJJ. I am sure that you are a watcher, but I'm worried that it might be a mafia watcher because of the power imbalance. Call it paranoia, as I'm still relying on my read over mech stuff.
Which on of Soneji or Long Con do you prefer?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sitting in my car pondering things made me want to kill Long Con.
Doesn't mean we know what the fuxk's going on.Dyslexicon wrote:People on the Soneji wagon looks better to me. *unsure*
JJJ is a three-shot tracker. Golden being an unlimited town Watcher would be nearly impossible with that kind of balance, as Watchers>>>Trackers. A Watcher can catch multiple people targeting someone and only has to aim for suspected targets of the NK, while a tracker not only has to have a correct mafia read but also hope that that mafia is making the faction kill that night.speedchuck wrote:Watching every night.Golden wrote:@speed - what bothers you mechanically about my claim?
Pretty much every other town role has been limited in some way. For you to claim just watcher (which came up before the trend of limited power was fully apparent) gives me balance issues that I discussed earlier with JJJ. I am sure that you are a watcher, but I'm worried that it might be a mafia watcher because of the power imbalance. Call it paranoia, as I'm still relying on my read over mech stuff.
It goes another hour now. Until 11:00 eastern.Dyslexicon wrote:I thought day was ending in like 10 minutes, but it's more?
Eloh is town.Dyslexicon wrote:You should probably die though, in all earnesty.MovingPictures07 wrote:Good to see you too.Dyslexicon wrote:MP is here! Kill him, kill him!
Lynch MP
This is why I think we should stay on soneji.juliets wrote:I'm going to
UNVOTE
VOTE Long Con
I apologize Dizzy, i needed the time for being able to provide votals so that the game isnt left hanging in a critical momentjuliets wrote:It goes another hour now. Until 11:00 eastern.Dyslexicon wrote:I thought day was ending in like 10 minutes, but it's more?
Alright, thanks. Although it's 4am here, and I have to be somewere at 8am, and omg what's life, what's sleep.juliets wrote:It goes another hour now. Until 11:00 eastern.Dyslexicon wrote:I thought day was ending in like 10 minutes, but it's more?
That's fine^^sprityo wrote:I apologize Dizzy, i needed the time for being able to provide votals so that the game isnt left hanging in a critical momentjuliets wrote:It goes another hour now. Until 11:00 eastern.Dyslexicon wrote:I thought day was ending in like 10 minutes, but it's more?
Hammer is at 7. No "sneaking" going on.Scotty wrote:This is why I think we should stay on soneji.juliets wrote:I'm going to
UNVOTE
VOTE Long Con
I don't trust juliets right now
We're awfully close to someone trying a sneak hammer
If you think both Juliets and I are scum, whose exactly going to sneak a hammer that takes three more votes?Scotty wrote:This is why I think we should stay on soneji.juliets wrote:I'm going to
UNVOTE
VOTE Long Con
I don't trust juliets right now
We're awfully close to someone trying a sneak hammer
I've decided I hate this post's guts.Long Con wrote:Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.Sloonei wrote:I highly doubt this.Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
Good. Staying on Long Con then. He seems vaguely more smooth than last game. Yeah. I'm feeling good about this. I'm not just latching onto other people that I can trust at all.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've decided I hate this post's guts.Long Con wrote:Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.Sloonei wrote:I highly doubt this.Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
>_>Fredwood wrote:EoD's here are so much fun.
The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
You're the one who convinced me. I don't know how Long Con gives the gun to you if Jay saw nothing when he targeted him.Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
What don't you like about it?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've decided I hate this post's guts.Long Con wrote:Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.Sloonei wrote:I highly doubt this.Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
It looks more like a challenge than an earnest plea, and I don't think that's how LC intended it.MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay, I'm here. Will be so off and on until the deadline.
What don't you like about it?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've decided I hate this post's guts.Long Con wrote:Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.Sloonei wrote:I highly doubt this.Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
A role discrepancy that has existed all day.Quin wrote:The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
Basically we're deciding between, how does LC's power work, is there redundant power roles, or who even likes Soneji anyway.speedchuck wrote:Would prefer Soneji lynch to Long Con lynch. Happy where I am. You guys can get the three votes to lynch LC without me.![]()
I don't like how quickly the LC lynch is building at all, but...
I have homework to do right this second. I'll keep up, if dire questions must be asked.
By all means, do join me on Soneji in the next hour and have a beer with me, though. It's a much more fun lynch than Long Con.
The latter, but it is a miserable effort at authenticity.juliets wrote:JJJ are you saying you think he intended it as an earnest plea? Or a challenge?
Yes, maybe we'd have noticed it earlier and we weren't all busy talking about a certain other thingSloonei wrote:A role discrepancy that has existed all day.Quin wrote:The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
I don't like this post, because "there's one easy way to find out" doesn't even make sense here. If he were to flip town we still wouldn't find out what happened with the targeting or if it's counted or not. But if he flips scum we would find out that he's lying. Not that town only says things that makes sense, but it's still a weird post.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've decided I hate this post's guts.Long Con wrote:Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.Sloonei wrote:I highly doubt this.Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
Quin and Soenji's votes I get, they're likely axed if they don't team up to vote out the other guy. The other players willingness to follow is a bit huh?Sloonei wrote:A role discrepancy that has existed all day.Quin wrote:The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
So I'm not defending Long Con here but I want to point out that if LC is lynched and comes up bad, this is the same fucking post you made defending Mm when he got lynched.speedchuck wrote:Would prefer Soneji lynch to Long Con lynch. Happy where I am. You guys can get the three votes to lynch LC without me.![]()
I don't like how quickly the LC lynch is building at all, but...
I have homework to do right this second. I'll keep up, if dire questions must be asked.
By all means, do join me on Soneji in the next hour and have a beer with me, though. It's a much more fun lynch than Long Con.
Does your view of this influence your view of Sloonei?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:It looks more like a challenge than an earnest plea, and I don't think that's how LC intended it.MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay, I'm here. Will be so off and on until the deadline.
What don't you like about it?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've decided I hate this post's guts.Long Con wrote:Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.Sloonei wrote:I highly doubt this.Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
No. Should it?MovingPictures07 wrote:Does your view of this influence your view of Sloonei?
Is the case against Long Con a bit huh?Fredwood wrote:Quin and Soenji's votes I get, they're likely axed if they don't team up to vote out the other guy. The other players willingness to follow is a bit huh?Sloonei wrote:A role discrepancy that has existed all day.Quin wrote:The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
I'm just having a crisis of confidence on the Quin issue and the point about Jay targeting LC and seeing nothing was what compelled me to change my vote.Fredwood wrote:Quin and Soenji's votes I get, they're likely axed if they don't team up to vote out the other guy. The other players willingness to follow is a bit huh?Sloonei wrote:A role discrepancy that has existed all day.Quin wrote:The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
Soneji is the easiest target to bus because he's been so absent. I don't think that his wagon being easy is a bad sign.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Not a single player has opposed a Soneji lynch at any juncture of this day other than Soneji himself, while we're worrying about the development of wagons.
I don't think so. I just was curious because the post that you're focusing on is a direct response to Sloonei's inquiry.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:No. Should it?MovingPictures07 wrote:Does your view of this influence your view of Sloonei?