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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:36 pm
by Soneji
[VOTE: ] aubergine

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:37 pm
by Dyslexicon
sprityo wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:^I vote Long Con. :p
Perhaps if you didnt enjoy switching votes so often i wouldnt have to edit my votals : ^)


:haha:
Vote Sprityo

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:39 pm
by speedchuck
Soneji wrote:
juliets wrote:
Quin wrote:
juliets wrote:Soneji, Quin, and Golden:

Do you think it's likely that there is redundancy in the doctor role in the civ alignment? [Soneji you may not have gotten to the point yet that you understand why I'm asking this]
What do you mean by redundancy?
Two doctor roles that operate on odd nights.
I come from a place where the even/odd night thing with power roles is pretty rare. If there were two doctors, one even night and one odd night, the balance/intrigue there would be that you have two chances to get someone good at picking doctor targets and the mafia hitting one of them doesn't take away your doctor protects entirely.

Can't say how likely it is given this game is in a weird place between The Syndicate and Narutoforums in terms of power.
Catching up bit by bit.

More likely to have odd night and then two shot, or something like that.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:39 pm
by Dyslexicon
@Soneji - Yeah, I use words subjectively to account for my subjective experience. Keeps me at a perfect distance of reality.
The whole thing is maybe that I don't think I've even interacted with you this game. So nonchelant it is, for me. :p

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:40 pm
by juliets
I'm going to

UNVOTE

VOTE Long Con

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:40 pm
by Dyslexicon
Vote Long Con

  • Sorry for being a trolly troll mcTrollson

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:41 pm
by Dyslexicon
I don't understand this voting, but it's interesting. :p

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:44 pm
by speedchuck
Golden wrote:@speed - what bothers you mechanically about my claim?
Watching every night.

Pretty much every other town role has been limited in some way. For you to claim just watcher (which came up before the trend of limited power was fully apparent) gives me balance issues that I discussed earlier with JJJ. I am sure that you are a watcher, but I'm worried that it might be a mafia watcher because of the power imbalance. Call it paranoia, as I'm still relying on my read over mech stuff.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:45 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sitting in my car pondering things made me want to kill Long Con. :ponder:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:45 pm
by Dyslexicon
speedchuck wrote:
Golden wrote:@speed - what bothers you mechanically about my claim?
Watching every night.

Pretty much every other town role has been limited in some way. For you to claim just watcher (which came up before the trend of limited power was fully apparent) gives me balance issues that I discussed earlier with JJJ. I am sure that you are a watcher, but I'm worried that it might be a mafia watcher because of the power imbalance. Call it paranoia, as I'm still relying on my read over mech stuff.
This is actually a good point. However, I don't know if Golden has claimed anything about how much/when being able to watch?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:46 pm
by Dyslexicon
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sitting in my car pondering things made me want to kill Long Con. :ponder:
Which on of Soneji or Long Con do you prefer?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:47 pm
by sprityo
Running out of things to type up here

VOTALS:

Soneji (3): speedchuck, Sloonei, Scotty,
Quin (2): Golden, Strawhenge,
Long Con (4): Quin, Soneji, juliets, Dyslexicon


With 13 Alive it takes 7 to Lynch, 3 to Soft Lynch

Day ends in 75 minutes

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:49 pm
by Dyslexicon
People on the Soneji wagon looks better to me. *unsure*

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:50 pm
by Dyslexicon
I thought day was ending in like 10 minutes, but it's more?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:50 pm
by Scotty
Dyslexicon wrote:People on the Soneji wagon looks better to me. *unsure*
Doesn't mean we know what the fuxk's going on.

I just ate an apple midshow and now I'm bloated.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:51 pm
by Soneji
speedchuck wrote:
Golden wrote:@speed - what bothers you mechanically about my claim?
Watching every night.

Pretty much every other town role has been limited in some way. For you to claim just watcher (which came up before the trend of limited power was fully apparent) gives me balance issues that I discussed earlier with JJJ. I am sure that you are a watcher, but I'm worried that it might be a mafia watcher because of the power imbalance. Call it paranoia, as I'm still relying on my read over mech stuff.
JJJ is a three-shot tracker. Golden being an unlimited town Watcher would be nearly impossible with that kind of balance, as Watchers>>>Trackers. A Watcher can catch multiple people targeting someone and only has to aim for suspected targets of the NK, while a tracker not only has to have a correct mafia read but also hope that that mafia is making the faction kill that night.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:51 pm
by juliets
Dyslexicon wrote:I thought day was ending in like 10 minutes, but it's more?
It goes another hour now. Until 11:00 eastern.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:51 pm
by speedchuck
Dyslexicon wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:MP is here! Kill him, kill him!

Lynch MP

:omg:
Good to see you too. :p
You should probably die though, in all earnesty.
Eloh is town.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:51 pm
by Scotty
juliets wrote:I'm going to

UNVOTE

VOTE Long Con
This is why I think we should stay on soneji.

I don't trust juliets right now

We're awfully close to someone trying a sneak hammer

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:52 pm
by sprityo
juliets wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:I thought day was ending in like 10 minutes, but it's more?
It goes another hour now. Until 11:00 eastern.
I apologize Dizzy, i needed the time for being able to provide votals so that the game isnt left hanging in a critical moment


Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:53 pm
by Dyslexicon
juliets wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:I thought day was ending in like 10 minutes, but it's more?
It goes another hour now. Until 11:00 eastern.
Alright, thanks. Although it's 4am here, and I have to be somewere at 8am, and omg what's life, what's sleep.

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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:53 pm
by Dyslexicon
sprityo wrote:
juliets wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:I thought day was ending in like 10 minutes, but it's more?
It goes another hour now. Until 11:00 eastern.
I apologize Dizzy, i needed the time for being able to provide votals so that the game isnt left hanging in a critical moment

That's fine^^

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:54 pm
by juliets
Scotty wrote:
juliets wrote:I'm going to

UNVOTE

VOTE Long Con
This is why I think we should stay on soneji.

I don't trust juliets right now

We're awfully close to someone trying a sneak hammer
Hammer is at 7. No "sneaking" going on.

Why don't you spill your case on me?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:54 pm
by Soneji
Scotty wrote:
juliets wrote:I'm going to

UNVOTE

VOTE Long Con
This is why I think we should stay on soneji.

I don't trust juliets right now

We're awfully close to someone trying a sneak hammer
If you think both Juliets and I are scum, whose exactly going to sneak a hammer that takes three more votes?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:55 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
I highly doubt this.
Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.
I've decided I hate this post's guts.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:56 pm
by Sloonei
These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:57 pm
by Fredwood
EoD's here are so much fun.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:57 pm
by Dyslexicon
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
I highly doubt this.
Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.
I've decided I hate this post's guts.
Good. Staying on Long Con then. He seems vaguely more smooth than last game. Yeah. I'm feeling good about this. I'm not just latching onto other people that I can trust at all.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:57 pm
by Dyslexicon
Fredwood wrote:EoD's here are so much fun.
>_>

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:58 pm
by Quin
Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:58 pm
by juliets
Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
You're the one who convinced me. I don't know how Long Con gives the gun to you if Jay saw nothing when he targeted him.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:58 pm
by Tangrowth
Okay, I'm here. Will be so off and on until the deadline.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
I highly doubt this.
Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.
I've decided I hate this post's guts.
What don't you like about it?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:59 pm
by speedchuck
Would prefer Soneji lynch to Long Con lynch. Happy where I am. You guys can get the three votes to lynch LC without me. :beer:

I don't like how quickly the LC lynch is building at all, but...
I have homework to do right this second. I'll keep up, if dire questions must be asked.

By all means, do join me on Soneji in the next hour and have a beer with me, though. It's a much more fun lynch than Long Con.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:59 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay, I'm here. Will be so off and on until the deadline.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
I highly doubt this.
Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.
I've decided I hate this post's guts.
What don't you like about it?
It looks more like a challenge than an earnest plea, and I don't think that's how LC intended it.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:02 pm
by juliets
JJJ are you saying you think he intended it as an earnest plea? Or a challenge?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:02 pm
by Sloonei
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?
A role discrepancy that has existed all day.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:03 pm
by Fredwood
speedchuck wrote:Would prefer Soneji lynch to Long Con lynch. Happy where I am. You guys can get the three votes to lynch LC without me. :beer:

I don't like how quickly the LC lynch is building at all, but...
I have homework to do right this second. I'll keep up, if dire questions must be asked.

By all means, do join me on Soneji in the next hour and have a beer with me, though. It's a much more fun lynch than Long Con.
Basically we're deciding between, how does LC's power work, is there redundant power roles, or who even likes Soneji anyway.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:03 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
juliets wrote:JJJ are you saying you think he intended it as an earnest plea? Or a challenge?
The latter, but it is a miserable effort at authenticity.

WELL GO AHEAD AND SHOOT ME HEH HEH but not really I'm your friend.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:03 pm
by Quin
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?
A role discrepancy that has existed all day.
Yes, maybe we'd have noticed it earlier and we weren't all busy talking about a certain other thing :noble:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:04 pm
by Dyslexicon
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
I highly doubt this.
Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.
I've decided I hate this post's guts.
I don't like this post, because "there's one easy way to find out" doesn't even make sense here. If he were to flip town we still wouldn't find out what happened with the targeting or if it's counted or not. But if he flips scum we would find out that he's lying. Not that town only says things that makes sense, but it's still a weird post.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:05 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Not a single player has opposed a Soneji lynch at any juncture of this day other than Soneji himself, while we're worrying about the development of wagons.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:05 pm
by Fredwood
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?
A role discrepancy that has existed all day.
Quin and Soenji's votes I get, they're likely axed if they don't team up to vote out the other guy. The other players willingness to follow is a bit huh?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:05 pm
by Scotty
speedchuck wrote:Would prefer Soneji lynch to Long Con lynch. Happy where I am. You guys can get the three votes to lynch LC without me. :beer:

I don't like how quickly the LC lynch is building at all, but...
I have homework to do right this second. I'll keep up, if dire questions must be asked.

By all means, do join me on Soneji in the next hour and have a beer with me, though. It's a much more fun lynch than Long Con.
So I'm not defending Long Con here but I want to point out that if LC is lynched and comes up bad, this is the same fucking post you made defending Mm when he got lynched.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:06 pm
by Sloonei
I am still in favor of lynching Long Con. I just wanted to note the swiftness of his bandwagon.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:06 pm
by Tangrowth
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay, I'm here. Will be so off and on until the deadline.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
I highly doubt this.
Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.
I've decided I hate this post's guts.
What don't you like about it?
It looks more like a challenge than an earnest plea, and I don't think that's how LC intended it.
Does your view of this influence your view of Sloonei?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:07 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MovingPictures07 wrote:Does your view of this influence your view of Sloonei?
No. Should it?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:07 pm
by Quin
Fredwood wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?
A role discrepancy that has existed all day.
Quin and Soenji's votes I get, they're likely axed if they don't team up to vote out the other guy. The other players willingness to follow is a bit huh?
Is the case against Long Con a bit huh?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:07 pm
by juliets
Fredwood wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?
A role discrepancy that has existed all day.
Quin and Soenji's votes I get, they're likely axed if they don't team up to vote out the other guy. The other players willingness to follow is a bit huh?
I'm just having a crisis of confidence on the Quin issue and the point about Jay targeting LC and seeing nothing was what compelled me to change my vote.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:08 pm
by Scotty
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Not a single player has opposed a Soneji lynch at any juncture of this day other than Soneji himself, while we're worrying about the development of wagons.
Soneji is the easiest target to bus because he's been so absent. I don't think that his wagon being easy is a bad sign.

LC being so thrown about by everyone at the end here reeks. The only real person I see opposing it is speed. I'm only partially opposing it, (calling kettle black) but ya know I don't know shit

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:08 pm
by Tangrowth
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Does your view of this influence your view of Sloonei?
No. Should it?
I don't think so. I just was curious because the post that you're focusing on is a direct response to Sloonei's inquiry.