The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:19 pm Mystery solved.

I did that. I was under the impression there was a different instance today of a deleted post.

Oh good. I was sweating wondering if I accidentally tally deleted something without even knowing I’d done it.

I need to process these past six or seven pages and I’ll post some reads before the night is over.

My action failed last night. I’m unsure if it was part of how my role works or if I was somehow blocked... I don’t know why there would be another block in this game though.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:18 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 7:28 pm @Spacedaisy you voted DDL, can you explain why?

I was six pages behind and reading but suspected I couldn’t catch up fast enough as I was also distracted with other things while I tried to get through it. I voted DDL because he has been one that I felt off about for a while, without solid reasoning that I can point to. I didn’t feel good about lynching Luna but I hadn’t come to all this stuff about her role until now. And I didn’t have a bad feeling about Elo either. So I voted the person I actually suspected over the other two and went back to catching up so that I wouldn’t miss the vote.

Ok thanks.

Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?

No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.

Well dang.

Farewell Neverwhere, maybe you can join us for another game when things are less busy for you.

Dunya/Eloh

One of them needs to go tomorrow

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?

No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.

So actually I only have to predict the number of players who vote in the poll the next day. I guessed 9, and it looks like we got 9.

oh wait, looks like speed jumped to "non" which doesn't count. nvm.

so we had another crazy eod, should’ve stayed for it I guess but I was too tired. I was sure it’d be between eloh and luna, I would have accepted both

Still trying to wrap my head around this whole lie detector thingy and why the lynch was steered towards DDL

updated version

Day 1 votes starting to look interesting now

There might be someone fishing for civ points, by voting for Mac. Looking at luna, possibly spacedaisy. My late vote is just as suspicious but you be the judge, I know I’m good

I doubt Mac was the only mafia voting nutella, looking at Eloh. Worth noting JJJ also had vote on her

JJJ has been after lurkers since day 1, it’s funny how each and every one of them turned out to be civs

So basically DDL made the day 4 poll really easy for mafia, unfortunately. Bet JJJ loved that poll. The only person on the lurker poll who isn’t a confirmed civ by now was Luna. Might go back and check how everyone interacted with luna that day

funny how it’s always JJJ who notices the mistakes in host posts, and now this deleted post thingy

I’m tinfoiling JJJ so hard now

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:51 pm Dunya/Eloh

One of them needs to go tomorrow

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:52 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?

No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.

So actually I only have to predict the number of players who vote in the poll the next day. I guessed 9, and it looks like we got 9.

OHHHHH that's great. I thought speed said Long Con was one too many. I'm glad you can use your ability to help prove yourself.

I’m going to be gone all day. A family obligation caught me by surprise.

I think we’ve run out of universes where Elohcin is a civilian. Kill her. Then from there decide on any teammate. If the game started with 5 mafia (less likely than 4 I think, but possible) we may be headed to an elimination phase.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:52 pm oh wait, looks like speed jumped to "non" which doesn't count. nvm.

I guess I should have read one more post before I replied a moment ago.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 7:53 am I’m going to be gone all day. A family obligation caught me by surprise.

I think we’ve run out of universes where Elohcin is a civilian. Kill her. Then from there decide on any teammate. If the game started with 5 mafia (less likely than 4 I think, but possible) we may be headed to an elimination phase.

Hope everything is ok JJJ.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:26 pm I need to process these past six or seven pages and I’ll post some reads before the night is over.

Daisy, will you post some reads today?

I'm off to work, back this afternoon.

Guys, I'm so sorry about last night. My migraine is still here but is subdued with meds atm. I will catch up now.

Everything is good, thanks juliets.

Everyone should give a conclusive statement on their alignment for Luna to lie detect.

I am a member of the civilian faction.

I'm back, I have had coffee, and my meds are helping....

First of all, I just about forgot LC was even playing, haha.

Second, Jules said I was here but had nothing to say. The past few days, I have had time to catch up mostly but not to post. The walls of text and the amount of posts makes everything feel like work and I already have a job and a family to tend to. Look at LC a moment. See how much he has posted? If he hadn't lucked out on his one awesome act which showed he was def civ, he would be in the POE for sure by now, probably even dead or mod killed. But....If I decide that this is too much work for me (now that I have already tried to get involved and participate), and if I drift away and stop participating, I am all of a sudden a huge suspect. Why? I am just acting like Rey, or LC, or neverwhere. But b/c I was once involved and am now over it, I get suspected. Stupid. So, number one reason I have been quiet is apathy, number two is RL, and number 3...I had been set on Luna as a great lynch candidate so I felt I didn't need to be so talkative. Remember back when votes were not changable. If you had your mind set and voted, you were not expected to keep yapping all day long. Why now? No thank you.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 7:07 pm @Elohcin if you come back on would you please tell us some civ things you have done this game?

Please, @Juliets, tell me. What IS civ behavior? How many times have I been lynched as a civilian. SO MANY TIMES! Do you think I really care what anyone thinks is civ or baddie behavior? Not really. Y'all are gonna do what y'all are gonna do no matter what I do.

posting now...I have an appointment...be back soon

Yesterday was pretty frustrating for me being cursed and all. [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] do you gain anything out of cursing a player? Because when I agreed to it I assumed you would get a role peek or something. I guess I should have asked before agreeing, and role claimed in my own words before being cursed.

Also I did tell speedchuck my accurate role, and I'm convinced he switched it around in his head and mis-remembered it.

If there were any other misunderstandings I wasn't able to communicate yesterday, please ask. I'll be around.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 9:13 am I'm back, I have had coffee, and my meds are helping....

First of all, I just about forgot LC was even playing, haha.

Second, Jules said I was here but had nothing to say. The past few days, I have had time to catch up mostly but not to post. The walls of text and the amount of posts makes everything feel like work and I already have a job and a family to tend to. Look at LC a moment. See how much he has posted? If he hadn't lucked out on his one awesome act which showed he was def civ, he would be in the POE for sure by now, probably even dead or mod killed. But....If I decide that this is too much work for me (now that I have already tried to get involved and participate), and if I drift away and stop participating, I am all of a sudden a huge suspect. Why? I am just acting like Rey, or LC, or neverwhere. But b/c I was once involved and am now over it, I get suspected. Stupid. So, number one reason I have been quiet is apathy, number two is RL, and number 3...I had been set on Luna as a great lynch candidate so I felt I didn't need to be so talkative. Remember back when votes were not changable. If you had your mind set and voted, you were not expected to keep yapping all day long. Why now? No thank you.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 7:07 pm @Elohcin if you come back on would you please tell us some civ things you have done this game?

Please, @Juliets, tell me. What IS civ behavior? How many times have I been lynched as a civilian. SO MANY TIMES! Do you think I really care what anyone thinks is civ or baddie behavior? Not really. Y'all are gonna do what y'all are gonna do no matter what I do.

posting now...I have an appointment...be back soon

Elohcin, I see you brought up Long Con. I had a thought last night. He could totally be scum and worked out a plan with his team to claim that Jack was scum, effectively buying civ credit so he could coast to the end of the game. I'm not saying it's likely, but it would be possible. Do you think he would do something like that?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 9:05 am Everything is good, thanks juliets.

Everyone should give a conclusive statement on their alignment for Luna to lie detect.

I am a member of the civilian faction.

I did not gain a lie-detect. I predicted 9 players would vote today, but 10 voted. Speed jumped to "non" which doesn't count.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 9:51 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 9:13 am I'm back, I have had coffee, and my meds are helping....

First of all, I just about forgot LC was even playing, haha.

Second, Jules said I was here but had nothing to say. The past few days, I have had time to catch up mostly but not to post. The walls of text and the amount of posts makes everything feel like work and I already have a job and a family to tend to. Look at LC a moment. See how much he has posted? If he hadn't lucked out on his one awesome act which showed he was def civ, he would be in the POE for sure by now, probably even dead or mod killed. But....If I decide that this is too much work for me (now that I have already tried to get involved and participate), and if I drift away and stop participating, I am all of a sudden a huge suspect. Why? I am just acting like Rey, or LC, or neverwhere. But b/c I was once involved and am now over it, I get suspected. Stupid. So, number one reason I have been quiet is apathy, number two is RL, and number 3...I had been set on Luna as a great lynch candidate so I felt I didn't need to be so talkative. Remember back when votes were not changable. If you had your mind set and voted, you were not expected to keep yapping all day long. Why now? No thank you.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 7:07 pm @Elohcin if you come back on would you please tell us some civ things you have done this game?

Please, @Juliets, tell me. What IS civ behavior? How many times have I been lynched as a civilian. SO MANY TIMES! Do you think I really care what anyone thinks is civ or baddie behavior? Not really. Y'all are gonna do what y'all are gonna do no matter what I do.

posting now...I have an appointment...be back soon

Elohcin, I see you brought up Long Con. I had a thought last night. He could totally be scum and worked out a plan with his team to claim that Jack was scum, effectively buying civ credit so he could coast to the end of the game. I'm not saying it's likely, but it would be possible. Do you think he would do something like that?

I do think he could do something like that. LC is a mastermind.

Also, I think it is worth noting that after my catch up, I am AGAIN undecided on you. I have two people that I have SO much trouble reading, you and nutella. Everything nutella says and does usually screams "baddie, baddie" in my head. And everything you say and do usually screams "civ, civ" in my head. The reasons I think you could be bad are all related to your timing of participation. If it is true that RL was the factor in all of it, then these last couple phases would point to you being civ. It makes me confused. Plus, you were cursed yesterday. I would think that would be a baddie role. I know the roles are messed up in this game, what seems civ could be bad and what seems bad could be civ. My role seems like a baddie role. I don't think it would help civs, so I have actually refrained from using it all game. If I had the insanifying role (as a civ), I think I would be more careful with it. So I am thinking that whoever has it could be bad.

Guys, if you have any other concerns I have yet to answer, please let me know. I appreciate your patience with me. Being a girl sucks when it comes to hormonal crap.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?

No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.

That's strange, I'm pretty sure I've voted in every lynch poll so far.

Kites wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 3:32 am Day 1 votes starting to look interesting now

There might be someone fishing for civ points, by voting for Mac. Looking at luna, possibly spacedaisy. My late vote is just as suspicious but you be the judge, I know I’m good

I doubt Mac was the only mafia voting nutella, looking at Eloh. Worth noting JJJ also had vote on her

JJJ has been after lurkers since day 1, it’s funny how each and every one of them turned out to be civs

Jay staying after the low-posters does look bad. I don't like it now that you've pointed it out.

Kites wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 3:32 am So basically DDL made the day 4 poll really easy for mafia, unfortunately. Bet JJJ loved that poll. The only person on the lurker poll who isn’t a confirmed civ by now was Luna. Might go back and check how everyone interacted with luna that day

Dang, DDL really did make a poll of all civs then. If he didn't get lynched yesterday I'd be suspecting him for that big-time

Kites wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 3:32 am funny how it’s always JJJ who notices the mistakes in host posts, and now this deleted post thingy

Granted, the post quoted of one of his posts. Not surprised at all if he saw it.

Kites wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 3:32 am I’m tinfoiling JJJ so hard now

Good thoughts, Kites. Thanks for you input.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:22 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?

No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.

That's strange, I'm pretty sure I've voted in every lynch poll so far.

LC I'm probably mistaken. I just repeated what I thought speed said.

Luna/speedchuck (one of)
JaggedJimmyJay
Eloh
Spacedaisy

Kites
Long Con
juliets

i'm not comfortable with luna/speed, mostly because of how much trust they have in each other despite a shit ton of whack regarding luna's claim so i feel like one is pocketing the other. i would have said luna yesterday, but now i'm not sure about speed. i kinda ruled him out after the jack whack, but if it was some kind of ploy to win an extra day of jack being alive and speed looking innocent because he can claim he actually did get the protection from the host... it's not that hard to imagine anymore. i'd lynch speed before luna. i don't like waiting for luna to prove her lie detect and i would have taken serious issues with her choice of 9 voters instead of 10, but she did say she guessed nine openly in the thread (i'm not sure why she chose 9 [mention]Lunalee[/mention] if you can answer) so i'm a little iffy about it.

i don't care if there really was a deleted post, that still doesn't town clear jay for me. it's like he's always one step ahead of us about roles, how he was trying to drive game mechanic talk (albeit at the request of someone else, DDL?) his votes have been questionable, his handling of me has been different. this isn't tinfoil. these are genuine gripes but i don't have time to make a case and i know i can see town jay in some posts too, but too many things bother me on the whole. i can also see speed and jay as teammates.

i always feel bad when i reread and realize i've been defending someone more than they're willing to defend themselves. in this poe, eloh comes naturally as my next choice. her most recent posts make me question exactly what she's been reading, but okay, she's in my poe. and for the record: being a civ looks like someone genuinely trying to game solve and figure people out. and juliets is right, eloh, that is lacking from your iso. whether it's genuine apathy or not remains to be seen. i hope now that the game has become smaller, you'll try to offer more content and reads. i wouldn't be surprised if you're lynched tomorrow if your attitude towards the game doesn't change. hope your migraine goes away <3

spacedaisy is a town read for me, but i get bad feelings when someone drops off the radar and lets everyone else argue things out. she was very successfully blendy and quiet in gossip girl, and i can't carry a town read till end game based on actions several phases ago. i don't really believe she only posts when she has a suspect and she doesn't have a single suspect right now? how is that possible?

i should put kites ahead of spacedaisy in my list, but i just feel good about his recent contributions and the jjj tinfoil makes me appreciate him all that more. he could stay down low and lurky, but he's willing to go against the waves and voice suspicions on someone everyone else is townreading (except me, apparently). i think mafia kites would have picked a more consensual target, especially when he isn't under any lynch pressure. good look. disclaimer: i have no idea what mafia kites looks like. and i don't wanna know.

juliets and long con are town cleared in my eyes. i have explained long and hard why i don't believe long con is jack's teammate and won't come around to thinking that's possible (not an insult to your abilities as mafia, LC!)

those are my final words. i'm swamped with rl shit today.

juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:00 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:22 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?

No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.

That's strange, I'm pretty sure I've voted in every lynch poll so far.

LC I'm probably mistaken. I just repeated what I thought speed said.

I didn't think long con specifically wouldn't vote, I just picked the number.

linki, woah. Hi dunya.

if epi has made a mafia stump in this game, i will laugh until next month.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:15 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:00 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:22 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?

No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.

That's strange, I'm pretty sure I've voted in every lynch poll so far.

LC I'm probably mistaken. I just repeated what I thought speed said.

I didn't think long con specifically wouldn't vote, I just picked the number.

linki, woah. Hi dunya.

hi!

since you're here, and this is the same topic that has bothered me. why 9? when you knew we were 11 people, 1 inactive (neverwhere), why did you pick 9 and not 10?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:17 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:15 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:00 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:22 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?

No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.

That's strange, I'm pretty sure I've voted in every lynch poll so far.

LC I'm probably mistaken. I just repeated what I thought speed said.

I didn't think long con specifically wouldn't vote, I just picked the number.

linki, woah. Hi dunya.

hi!

since you're here, and this is the same topic that has bothered me. why 9? when you knew we were 11 people, 1 inactive (neverwhere), why did you pick 9 and not 10?

It was incase someone didn't vote. I probably should have been smart and held off voting until the end, but I didn't. Suggestions for tomorrow's number? 8?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 9:13 am I'm back, I have had coffee, and my meds are helping....

First of all, I just about forgot LC was even playing, haha.

Second, Jules said I was here but had nothing to say. The past few days, I have had time to catch up mostly but not to post. The walls of text and the amount of posts makes everything feel like work and I already have a job and a family to tend to. Look at LC a moment. See how much he has posted? If he hadn't lucked out on his one awesome act which showed he was def civ, he would be in the POE for sure by now, probably even dead or mod killed. But....If I decide that this is too much work for me (now that I have already tried to get involved and participate), and if I drift away and stop participating, I am all of a sudden a huge suspect. Why? I am just acting like Rey, or LC, or neverwhere. But b/c I was once involved and am now over it, I get suspected. Stupid. So, number one reason I have been quiet is apathy, number two is RL, and number 3...I had been set on Luna as a great lynch candidate so I felt I didn't need to be so talkative. Remember back when votes were not changable. If you had your mind set and voted, you were not expected to keep yapping all day long. Why now? No thank you.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 7:07 pm @Elohcin if you come back on would you please tell us some civ things you have done this game?

Please, @Juliets, tell me. What IS civ behavior? How many times have I been lynched as a civilian. SO MANY TIMES! Do you think I really care what anyone thinks is civ or baddie behavior? Not really. Y'all are gonna do what y'all are gonna do no matter what I do.

posting now...I have an appointment...be back soon

Elo, one of the reasons you're in my suspect pool is I don't see anything you have done that I can point to and say "this person is civ because of this". So since I can't find it I'm asking you to point out whatever you have done or said that in your eyes says "civvie" all over it. Don't worry about what I see as civ, tell me what you see.

One of the things that has been true time and time again in these games is that civs loose when they don't discuss possibilities, challenge each other on reads, look at the things people have said and done, and put thoughts out there for people to look at and judge right up to EOD. Think about GG when there was no one willing to discuss alternatives with you to your lynch. That's why it's important to be around - to participate in those things even if you've already voted. Many people when mafia don't want to stick around and discuss things because it's more difficult for them since they know who is good and bad. As for your reasons for not being around I understand being busy but look at what busy dunya does when she comes in - she usually can't stay long but her posts are full of meaningful reads/repsonses.

But, I don't think all the suspicion on you is because you're not around. It's probably a factor but trying to find solid civ behavior is I think something that is more important to people. Best you ask them though, I can't speak for others.

linki dunya will go back and read

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:20 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:17 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:15 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:00 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 10:22 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:15 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:06 pm Ok, but voting DDL means Luna gets a lie-detect. Right?

No. She evidently did not count on you voting at all.

That's strange, I'm pretty sure I've voted in every lynch poll so far.

LC I'm probably mistaken. I just repeated what I thought speed said.

I didn't think long con specifically wouldn't vote, I just picked the number.

linki, woah. Hi dunya.

hi!

since you're here, and this is the same topic that has bothered me. why 9? when you knew we were 11 people, 1 inactive (neverwhere), why did you pick 9 and not 10?

It was incase someone didn't vote. I probably should have been smart and held off voting until the end, but I didn't. Suggestions for tomorrow's number? 8?

do you have to submit the number before the end of night? we are down to 9. if a kill happens tonight, 8. i would go with 7 and maybe you can hold off voting until the end if you're willing to be around just before day ends. you know, in case someone misses a vote cos "it's the weekend" (hi speedchuck). or maybe 8 and we force everyone to cast an early vote to make sure you can prove your ability the next phase.

Wow, dunya. "eloh's civ! Wait, no. eloh's bad."

I will try to be a bit more active. I really am trying to care. I will be inactive most of tomorrow b/c family stuff. But I am going to take the afternoon to look into people and make a read of everyone. This will have to count for my Day 7 activity.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:16 pm if epi has made a mafia stump in this game, i will laugh until next month.

what is a mafia stump?

linki with jules. I feel like a child who is being forced to participate in a game that I don't like the rules of and really don't wanna play. And then you go comparing me to dunya like a mom would compare her child to another kid -a "why can't you be more like your sister" type thing. Sorry I am not dunya. I cannot come into the thread with short time, skim posts, and then comment meaningfully. My brain doesn't work that way. I will never play like dunya, or Jay, or kites, or rey for that matter. I will play like eloh. And y'all are just going to have to be okay with that in Epi games. I play for Epi. I am a warm body for epi (in more ways than one). I try to have fun, I do. CIV BEHAVIOR #1 - I try to be involved as much as possible. CIV BEHAVIOR #2 - I am HERE reading. CIV BEHAVIOR #3 - I comment and answer questions. CIV BEHAVIOR #4 - I have given reads even if not in depth like that of some others (again, I don't play like others, I play like me), but they ARE there. CIV BEHAVIOR #5 - I don't ignore ANYONE like GG so don't EVEN compare my behavior to that of how I was treated in GG. If you would like more evidence, you can reread me and see what you find.

yeah, let's not compare anyone to me. i don't wish myself upon my worst enemy.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:43 pm Wow, dunya. "eloh's civ! Wait, no. eloh's bad."

not exactly what i said, but okay. i've defended you more than you've defended yourself lol. i was pretty sure i was going to get hung for tmi if you flipped civ, but i didn't care. i just can't justify myself giving you carte blanche when the suspect pool has narrowed down to a few names. you're not mechanically cleared. you didn't seem to react in a bad way when hot potatoing ddl to save your cute little butt yesterday. these are things dunya's brain registered and continues to mull over for 24 hours.

i don't want you to give more effort than you can or are willing to. you do you, eloh, and i'll just made ado. at least you show up to the game so we appreciate you being here.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:43 pm Wow, dunya. "eloh's civ! Wait, no. eloh's bad."

I will try to be a bit more active. I really am trying to care. I will be inactive most of tomorrow b/c family stuff. But I am going to take the afternoon to look into people and make a read of everyone. This will have to count for my Day 7 activity.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:16 pm if epi has made a mafia stump in this game, i will laugh until next month.

what is a mafia stump?

linki with jules. I feel like a child who is being forced to participate in a game that I don't like the rules of and really don't wanna play. And then you go comparing me to dunya like a mom would compare her child to another kid -a "why can't you be more like your sister" type thing. Sorry I am not dunya. I cannot come into the thread with short time, skim posts, and then comment meaningfully. My brain doesn't work that way. I will never play like dunya, or Jay, or kites, or rey for that matter. I will play like eloh. And y'all are just going to have to be okay with that in Epi games. I play for Epi. I am a warm body for epi (in more ways than one). I try to have fun, I do. CIV BEHAVIOR #1 - I try to be involved as much as possible. CIV BEHAVIOR #2 - I am HERE reading. CIV BEHAVIOR #3 - I comment and answer questions. CIV BEHAVIOR #4 - I have given reads even if not in depth like that of some others (again, I don't play like others, I play like me), but they ARE there. CIV BEHAVIOR #5 - I don't ignore ANYONE like GG so don't EVEN compare my behavior to that of how I was treated in GG. If you would like more evidence, you can reread me and see what you find.

Ok Elo. I don't want you to be upset but I felt like I owed you an honest explanation. I apologize for offending you.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 2:43 pm what is a mafia stump?

a mafia stump is a baddie version of stump. a stump is someone if lynched is removed from the game entirely, but if nk'd becomes a stump so they are a permanent voice in the thread but cannot vote.

a baddie version of that i guess would be someone who is removed from the game if vigged and becomes a stump if lynched? idk.

This would be my POE and in specific order. Jay/Dunya are together only b/c I view them as the same baddiness. Please look, read, and refute so I can narrow it down if possible.

Daisy
Kites
LC
Jay/Dunya
Luna

dunya - this one is difficult for the same reasons as Jay (note I am starting from the bottom of my list and working my way up)

JaggedJimmyJay - I could go either way on him. He puts so much time and effort into those walls of texts. It really could be a big civ move or a great effort to look that way.

juliets - civ in my opinion. really helpful in trying to find the bad guys.

Kites - one of my top suspects. I have questioned him from almost the beginning. I remember reading on ONE post from him that had me thinking he MIGHT be civ.

Long Con - sittin' pretty over there on his civilian throne. I do wonder though, as luna brought up, if he could be tricking us all. It would be the ultimate mafia win for him to get away with playing so lazily. I am a bit suspicious on the fact that he is playing so lazily like he doesn't care, but he has voted every lynch (like he brought up). I am not sure that voting every lynch but being so distant in the thread is a good look.

Lunalee - still unsure of this chick. If she was is telling the truth about why she was not participating at one point and how she finally had time to get involved, then the rest of her behavior looks pretty civ.

Spacedaisy - worries me as being what you all call a "deep wolf". She is a pretty sneaky on, imo.

speedchuck - I am thinking civ. I feel like I don't know much more about him now than I did when he was hyped up on medication.

jules, I am not upset. I just game my honest opinion of your honest opinion and I answered your questions

dunya...all these new terms. Thank you for explaining the stump one. Now...what is hot potato mean?

...and you're damn stankin' right. I show up and I talk to people. I will never ignore someone. That felt like crap.

[mention]Elohcin[/mention] , here's what LC said earlier in the game about my tinfoil suspicion.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:34 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 3:37 pmThis is funny to me because in my tinfoiliest mind LC could be bad. LC is a gambit guy and what better, more brilliant gambit than to bus Jack with a made up role (I mean the role is really weird you have to admit) and ride the wave of being mechanically cleared until the end. Now, do I believe that happened? No, but it's still an idea that creeps up on me when I'm considering people.

One important factor is that no one else came forward with a reason for two nights in a row. Although I guess that it could have been a thing where my baddie teammate uses their ability to make two nights to give me some extra oomph... I would love to pull a gambit like that. Though that baddie teammate dying would reveal me. But the truth is, sadly, WYSIWYG.